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Channel log from 5 January 2018   (all times are UTC)

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12:45
<Martin__>
hi
12:45
is there anybody who speak spanish?
12:47
I installed Kiwi-ltsp and boot fine but i cant configure printers for different users
12:48
all of the thin client appear with the name "ws" and i couldnt find where to change it
13:12
???
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20:54
<dgroos>
Howdy again! I’ve got 5 of 6 classroom setups working—I messed up on the last server setup when getting to initial setup of ltsp-manager—clients can’t get past just looking for dhcp……
20:56
So I want to uninstall/reinstall ltsp-manager (tried re-running initial setup). I see: /usr/share/ltsp-manager/before-uninstall.sh and wonder if this is the uninstall script?
20:58
<alkisg>
dgroos: this mostly un-does what initial-setup does
20:58
As debian packages are not allowed to do such things automatically
20:59
<dgroos>
alkisg: OK
21:00
I’m thinking about trying the before-uninstall and then re-running initial setup?
21:00
<vagrantc>
i think you do that from the ltsp-manager interface
21:00
<alkisg>
dgroos: initial-setup is idemponent or however that is spelled
21:00
<vagrantc>
i wouldn't recommend running it manually
21:00
<alkisg>
So you can run it multiple times, either from the menu or the console, and it does the same thing each time
21:00
<vagrantc>
idempotent
21:01
<alkisg>
ty :D
21:01
<dgroos>
hi vagrantc I didn’t see anything from the ltsp-manager interface, also online wiki
21:01
<alkisg>
That also means that it doesn't matter if you uninstall/reinstall or just run it again, it's the same
21:01
initial setup is in the menu...
21:02
<dgroos>
that really is a word!
21:02
:-:
21:02* vagrantc wields the power of the "dict" command.
21:02
<dgroos>
oops!
21:02
<alkisg>
Hehe
21:02
<dgroos>
:-)
21:03
If I understand… I don’t need to uninstall/reinstall… reinstalling completely overwrites anything from previous?
21:03
<alkisg>
Reinstalling does nothing realy
21:03
*really
21:04
Running initial-setup again is the key
21:04
<dgroos>
ah… OK
21:04
<alkisg>
If that doesn't do it, then it's not an ltsp-manager issue, it's something else
21:05
http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager/Initial_setup
21:05
<dgroos>
OK. BTW, when I re-run initial-setup, it takes not time, returns nothing. For an experiment I deleted the dnsmasq file, then re-ran initial-setup and that time it said it was re-creating that file.
21:05
<alkisg>
"If for some reason you decline, you can find it again in the Server → Initial setup menu. "
21:05
<dgroos>
I’ll try now!
21:06
<alkisg>
It just makes sure that everything is there. It doesn't delete/recreate things, but it does create them if they're missing.
21:07
<dgroos>
How about if I delete the 4 conf files mentioned in the Server/Configuration Info/ menu, then re-run initial setup? Problematic?
21:08
<alkisg>
It will recreate 2 of them
21:09
The others are created when e.g. you run ltsp-update-kernels/image
21:09
What is the exact issue? Error messages etc?
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21:10
<dgroos>
No error messages. When I try and boot a client, it doesn’t get past the DHCP…. stage.
21:10
When looking at the dnsmasq file I see these lines:
21:10
dhcp-range=10.17.0.0,proxy
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dhcp-range=192.168.1.0,proxy
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The first I expect, the second I’ve never seen before.
21:11
I was inspecting the Network-Manager panels during running the initial-setup.
21:16
<alkisg>
dgroos: that means that you had IPs in those ranges while running initial-setup
21:16
Anyway, wanna vnc to fix it quickly?
21:16
!vnc-edide
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<ltsp>
vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
21:16
<dgroos>
I just compared the dnsmasq conf files from a successful install and this one, and the only difference betweent the two was that one line.
21:16
Thanks!
21:17
<alkisg>
In your setups I think you're using 192.168.67.1, aren't you?
21:17
Internal subnet etc...
21:17
Maybe you configured that IP wrong this time?
21:17
<dgroos>
yes
21:17
let me check…
21:17
<alkisg>
And you put it to 192.168.1.1 instead?
21:18
<dgroos>
arg… 192.168.1.67!
21:18
<alkisg>
:)
21:18
<dgroos>
let me adjust that a bit…
21:18
<alkisg>
And then re-run initial-setup again, so that it removes the invalid proxy range
21:18
It's not necessary, but there's no need to keep that additional line
21:20
<dgroos>
Re-ran initial setup, it completed without any comment other than “…successfully completed. Press enter…”
21:20
And I still see the line in the dnsmasq file
21:20
I will just comment it out…
21:21
and re-trying boot…
21:22
Still not picking up a DHCP address. I’ll reboot the server, it’s quick :-)
21:24
AND it’s working!
21:24
Thanks again Alkis!
21:24
And that makes all servers set up for the year. Been working on them all since Oct… :-(
21:26
<alkisg>
Ouch
21:26
That's a long time for something that's supposed to be ...pnp, we should make it better :D
21:26
<dgroos>
Glad to leave them behind. I’ve got a recipe for a server with pbis and ltsp-manager that works. I wonder if that would be a useful thing to share somewhere? Maybe the ltsp-discuss.
21:26
what does pnp stand for, I’ve wondered?
21:27
<alkisg>
plug and play, it was used a lot in the past for some cards that didn't have jumpers on them
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<dgroos>
Ah, I’ve been doing a lot of plugging and playing!
21:28
and a lot of jumping, too!
21:30
But yeah, it really was the Active Directory integration with LTSP-pnp that was the show stopper. Your fix with setting the pbis-open directive (or whatever it’s called) from “” to “Password: “ made things possible.
21:31
pbis seems to have it’s own strange issues. For example it works on my 16.04 if I first install a legacy version 8.0.x, join, then unjoin, then uninstall and reinstall 8.5.x and then re-join.
21:32
<vagrantc>
plug and play isa cards required a notorious amount of configuration
21:32
<jeremies>
How to enable autologin when a user has no password (i.e. passwd -d user )
21:32
'
21:32
?
21:32
<vagrantc>
jeremies: you need to set up an ssh key
21:32
<jeremies>
but what I need to write in lts.conf?
21:33
<dgroos>
going straight to version 8.5.x gives a very annoying: "LW_ERROR_LDAP_CONSTRAINT_VIOLATION" but I’m leaving that behind me!
21:33
Now I’ve got to clean up my classroom — 2 weeks of ‘break’ come to a close today! Again, thanks everyone for your help.
21:34
goodbye!
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