IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 8 September 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<alkisg>
Good morning
01:23
<elias_a>
Good morning!
01:24
Or should I say Καλημέρα!
01:24
UTF8 <3
01:29
<alkisg>
Hyvää huomenta :)
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<muppis>
:D
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: someone we donate computers to mentioned your at freegeek today :)
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<muppis>
01:30
<alkisg>
vagrantc: urm, in a good or in a bad way? :D
01:31
<vagrantc>
alkisg: good... your ppa got LTSP working again
01:31
<alkisg>
Ah, nice
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<vagrantc>
s,your,you,
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<elias_a>
muppis: Sitä samaa!
01:45
alkis: Sitä samaa!
01:46
(Thanks - the same for you)
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<ltsp>
Hello. A have a question: does ltsp technology mean diskless boot via the network, or is it possible to start some ltsp client on the full-weight system?
03:18
<johnny>
the first
03:18
the 2nd is usually done with the same kind of programs ltsp uses tho
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<biomorph_>
ltsp: Interesting question. What are you trying to achieve?
03:29* vagrantc would recommend ltsp to not run irc as root :P
03:31
<ltsp>
well, i'm sorry, i have confused nickname and channel name :)
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<vagrantc>
heh
03:31
and other name...
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<pianolender>
i am trying to understand, how does ltsp technology work
03:41
is network boot _only_ way to login to ltsp server?
03:48
<alkisg>
With LTSP, yes, but of course you can also install vnc, rdp, nx etc
03:50
<pianolender>
OK. So the most important question is the ability of my nettop to boot over network.
03:51
<johnny>
no.. that isn't true
03:52
ah sorry alkisg says it right
03:52
pianolender, ltsp is just glue around standard unix tools that are used in many other contexts
03:53
not much is specific about ltsp other than the custom chroot
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<pianolender>
my goal is to use heavy graphical apps like browsers and maybe media players without expiriencing slowness of intel ato processor
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<alkisg>
pianolender: so, you want those apps to run on the server? then you're describing a thin client.
05:25
<pianolender>
yes, definitely
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<johnny>
pianolender, really tho.. the worst speed .. is the network
05:26
atoms are faster.. especially newer ones
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than the network can be
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altho.. i still haven't tweaked my flow control yet
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<MrMarkie>
Is there somewhere in the ltsp-cluster web-interface i should be seeing my appservers?
07:29
I'm guessing that would be no.... right?
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<anivair>
okay, so I believe that I now have a usb flash drive with gPXE on it. Anyone know what I do with it? Do I just plug it in and let it take care of itself, or will I have to make modifications to the thin client?
08:24
<alkisg>
Just plug it
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<anivair>
thanks
08:24
I'll give it a shot
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<litercola>
exit
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<MrMarkie>
Is there no packages for ubuntu 10.04 in the ltsp-cluster-team ppa?
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<RicardoPerez>
Hi! On question: which port number should I have in /etc/inetd.conf for nbdrootd: 2000 or 2001?
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<alkisg>
RicardoPerez: the default is 2000, but if you have 2 chroots, the second one is 2001, and if you then remove the first chroot, 2001 is left behind
09:09
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: thanks, it's a little strange. i only have one chroot and my ltsp installation on lucid puts me 2001 instead of 2000...
09:10
so i need to have "nbdport=2000" in .../pxelinux.cfg/default, right?
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<alkisg>
They just need to be the same ports, it doesn't really matter if they're 2000 or 2001.
09:11
Is that Lucid?
09:11
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: yes it is
09:11
alkisg: in fact, i'm trying to solve a more general problem
09:12
alkisg: can I explain you?
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<alkisg>
Sure, either me or to the channel, probably someone will be able to help you
09:12
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: Thanks! I have an LTSP server installed over Lucid for FAT clients
09:13
alkisg: the problem is: sometimes the clients doesn't boot correctly
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alkisg: i.e.: the boot process gets into the plymouth logo, and the red & white dots still displayed, but nothing more happens
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alkisg: however, if I reboot the client, then *almost always* the client boots correctly
09:14
<alkisg>
Remove "quiet splash" from pxelinux.cfg/default so that you see an error message instead of flashing dots
09:14
It's possible that you have a rogue dhcp server on your network
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<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: mmmm... that's impossible, because it's a lan with only the server and the client...
09:15
<alkisg>
And no router with embedded dhcp server?
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<RicardoPerez>
however, the "quiet splash" sounds good, i'll try it tomorrow
09:15
alkisg: there's a router attached to the other ethernet card of the server
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(the server has 2 nics)
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<alkisg>
And there's a separate ISOLATED switch that connects the server to the client?
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<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: right
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<alkisg>
(not a crossover cable?)
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<RicardoPerez>
mmmmmm....
09:16
a crossover cable could let me to boot sometimes yes and sometimes no?
09:16
<alkisg>
I mean, you're using a switch, not just a direct connected cable, right/
09:17
<RicardoPerez>
that's right: i'm using a switch to connect the server and the client
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<alkisg>
OK, then yeah, it's not a dhcp problem
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<RicardoPerez>
there's no direct cable from the server and the client
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<alkisg>
It could be a problem with nbdproxy, or a race condition in some upstart script etc
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<RicardoPerez>
it's very strange: sometimes the client refueses to load
09:18
yes, i suspect to nbd or something similar
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<alkisg>
Remove quiet splash, see the error message and we'll see later how that goes
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<RicardoPerez>
because looking at the logs on the server i see the client don't connect to the nbd server when its booting hangs)
09:19
maybe i need to use "break=mount" to see if nbdproxy is running fine?
09:21
BTW, which port should nbd-proxy use: 2000 (the same as nbdrootd) or 2001?
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<alkisg>
The same
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<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: great, thanks
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<alkisg>
IRC support is much simpler when you're on-site, so try again tomorrow when you're there... :)
09:25
<RicardoPerez>
alkisg: yes, i think so too :)
09:25
alkisg: thank you very much, we'll see tomorrow :)
09:26
<alkisg>
Good luck :)
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<MrMarkie>
I'm having troubles with ltsp-cluster on 10.04. When I boot the clients instead of getting the appserver as appserver they get the the rootserver as appserver
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<MrMarkie>
Could this be because I run the loadbalancing-server on the rootserver?
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<MrMarkie>
Is my question unclear, should I elaborate?
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<rmainard>
hello everyone, I am trying to setup ubntu 10.04 64 bit ltsp cluster. When I boot a thin client the hardware info screen show the root server as the app server and then when I log in it opens a terminal rather than loading the desktop. When I force it to reboot I get a message saying error followed by this output: /usr/bin/getltscfg-cluster [OPTION] which is follow by a list of options. Does anyone have any ideas?
09:38
<MrMarkie>
I got the same issue, but sadly am all out of solutions at the moment
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<rmainard>
bummer
09:41
<MrMarkie>
I'm on 10.04 32-bit so it's not a 64-bit issue
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<rmainard>
I am running it on a KVM virtual server are you running on bare metal or as a VM?
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<MrMarkie>
Baremetal
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<rmainard>
At least it's not that.
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<MrMarkie>
I'm thinking this is related to the loadbalancer. Perhaps it doesn't identify appservers or perhaps the client on the TC-side doesn't ask the lb for an appserver
09:49
Are you running the loadbalancer on the same machine as the rootserver?
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<rmainard>
no, I am running the control server, root server, and load balancer on separate virtual machines.
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<Ghidorah>
Hello, has anyone else had an issue with the new Firefox and Flash Plugin crashing when running as a localapp?
09:52
<MrMarkie>
rmainard: So that isn't it either then
09:53
rmainard: I run control, root and lb on one machine and appserv on another
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<rmainard>
when you got to the cluster control center web page does it show boot up attempts in the log file?
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<rmainard>
where can I download the latest non distribution specific ltsp-server package?
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<anivair>
clearly, I loaded my pen drive wrong.
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the site how to suggests that I run "make" on the .usb file. That did nothing
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so I figured maybe it was already prebuilt and just ran the dd and that had no effect that I can tell
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and the thin client cpaims that it's blank
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(and I type like a blind man who just got is first Dvorak keyboard)
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<anivair>
(also just double checked the network connection. it's good. For whatever reason my DHCP service is not handing off on the first pass. If a machine tries a second time, it grabs it.
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(ie: a second time for the initial dhcp grab which is just about the first thing that happens on boot. before the kernel is loaded)
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<rmainard>
I am trying to setup ubntu 10.04 64 bit ltsp cluster. When I boot a thin client the hardware info screen show the root server as the app server and then when I log in it opens a terminal rather than loading the desktop. When I force it to reboot I get a message saying error followed by this output: /usr/bin/getltscfg-cluster [OPTION] which is follow by a list of options. Does anyone have any ideas?
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<Ghidorah>
Has anyone else had an issue with the new Firefox and Flash Plugin crashing when running as a localapp?
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<highvoltage>
111111/win 20
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<alkisg>
//j #ubuntu
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<rmainard>
I am trying to setup ubntu 10.04 64 bit ltsp cluster. When I boot a thin client the hardware info screen show the root server as the app server and then when I log in it opens a terminal rather than loading the desktop. When I force it to reboot I get a message saying error followed by this output: /usr/bin/getltscfg-cluster [OPTION] which is follow by a list of options. Does anyone have any ideas?
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<johnny>
looks like somebody forgot to pass an option to getltscfg-cluster
12:44
i don't know much about cluster otherwise
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<anivair>
well, I'll be damned. the thing just started working. is one of you doing LTSP voodoo over there?
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<alkisg>
kill -9 ltsp-voodoo
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That should fix it :)
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<anivair>
hehe
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good thing, since I think I still messed up the flash drive. the make command is doing nothing. So either the how-to is wrong, or I'm wrong. I know me is more likely in this scenario, but you never know.
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<alkisg>
Make command? For gpxe?
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<anivair>
yeah. here: http://etherboot.org/wiki/removable
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see "creating a bootable USB key"
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<alkisg>
anivair: well, there are two ways there, the easy one and the hard one
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<anivair>
heh
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<alkisg>
You were supposed to use the easy one, i.e. just write the downloaded image
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<anivair>
should I have skipped the make and just dropped the file onto the drive? Or is the dd command still required?
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<alkisg>
No need to download source, make etc
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*ONLY* a dd command is required
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<anivair>
that's what I would up doing
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course, now the thing's working suddenly ... though that makes me nervous. problems I don't solve can unsolve themselves
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<anivair>
for now, though, the new thin client seems to run well
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<alkisg>
Well, having a gpxe usb stick around is always handy...
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<anivair>
true enough
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<alkisg>
(or a live cd with gpxe added on it)
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*live usb
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<anivair>
I'll try it on a few of the other modles just to play with uit
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<Ghidorah>
alkisg: Are you aware of an issue with localapp firefox and newest flash crashing?
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<alkisg>
Nope, never heard of it
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<Ghidorah>
:-/
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<johnny>
still waiting for that app
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one that manages multiple distros on one key
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i have a 4gb key that's not useful for much else
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<sid>
are ther any changes I should be aware of installing local apps on 10.4? I am refering to this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPLocalAppSetup
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<alkisg>
sid: that's a very old page, it doesn't apply to 10.04
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<sid>
is there new info for local apps using 10.4?
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<alkisg>
No, but here's a page for running firefox on karmic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSPKarmicLocalAppsFirefox
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<alkisg>
It's still old, but at least it's a little better
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<sid>
ill check it out thanks.
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<Vonor>
hi
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<Vonor>
I've set up an ltsp on an ubuntu 10.10 beta. clients boot just fine bute if i try to log in the client gets message "no response from server, restarting" and no message in syslog on the server, other than from nbd_server "Desconnect request recieved" just right after startup
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<alkisg>
Try ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image
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<Vonor>
ahh, thanks
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<Vonor>
yay, that did the trick
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one thing, though, on the client i cannot unmount the local cdrom drive.
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<weightgain4000>
sup ppl
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<dvasile1>
Hi, I'm trying to set up ubuntu 10.04 as a pxe server. got tftp working, but dhcp3-server fails to work, pretty sure it's because of my conf file. i need help
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<moquist>
hey!
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