IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 28 October 2011   (all times are UTC)

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01:16
<mistik1>
cliebow: Hey man.
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02:01
<h2o>
hello all. i recently configured an ltsp system on ubuntu 10.4 lts amd64. however, my i386 images do not detect the ps2 mouse. i tried it in intel and intel atom motherboards. i would appreciate pointers as googling does not help
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03:08
<cliebow>
mistik1:just came home from the Seawall Motel..better part of the group was there..jammcq scottie ragnar wisloff gideon romm...and a bunch of new faces..just thinking hadnt heard from you in a long while...
03:25
<mistik1>
cliebow: Sorry about not being around but it seems my workload these days is about all I can handle
03:26
cliebow: Lots of new projects on the go and all that, not to mention that none of it includes sysadmin type work anymore
03:27
<cliebow>
i understand..i am completely ignorant of ltsp5..waiting for a reason to implement
03:27
<mistik1>
:)
03:27
<cliebow>
that is great youre bbusy anyway
03:27
i was sent to be apple certified..to fix thhe 1600 macbooks we have in the district..
03:28
<mistik1>
yea, they turned me into a fulltime programmer :)
03:28
<cliebow>
so that keeps me busy..
03:28
right up yourf aalley then..
03:28
<mistik1>
You guys always said so but I never thought so until recently years
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03:29
<mistik1>
recent years even
03:29
<cliebow>
just good common sense for starters..that is what impressed my boss so much then
03:30
guess i am hitting the rack..stay warm and well!
03:30
<mistik1>
thanks :)
03:30
<cliebow>
8~)
03:31
<mistik1>
cliebow: btw, have you seen my latest work?
03:31
mybe I should say heard :)
03:32
www.openoctave.org
03:32
That's what I've been up to for most of the last year
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10:53
<cliebow>
mistik1, cool! i ll havw a look from school and spread the word!
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13:39
<matrix3000>
dun dun dun and he returns the Almighty Alkisg!
13:40
<alkisg>
Greetings from the LTSP BTS :)
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13:42
<Hyperbyte>
Greetings to the LTSP BTS, from the cold and rainy lowlands of the Netherlands. ;-)
13:43
<matrix3000>
BTS?
13:43
<alkisg>
!bts
13:43
<ltsp>
alkisg: bts: LTSP By The Sea 2011: Oct 27 - 30, 2011 - Southwest Harbor, Maine http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_ByTheSea2011
13:44
<alkisg>
Hey Hyperbyte, it was raining here yesterday but it's sunny today (now that we're here... :D)
13:45
<Hyperbyte>
Can't wait 'till you bring the sun back to .eu
13:45
I have a horrible cold actually. :\
13:45
Which is nice, because while I'm so busy with the office move, I can't really be sick.
13:45
Had two days this week during which I just couldn't make it... fever, cold, flu, everything
13:46
Now I'm working, although I really shouldn't be.
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14:00
<cliebow_>
BTS: you guys have a plan of some sort for the day?
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14:24
<cliebow_>
ogra_:you been to breakfast? whats going on?
14:27
<mistik1>
good morning BTS crew
14:29
<cliebow_>
mistik1, www.openoctave.org looks like a really cool project
14:29
<mistik1>
are you guys going to get a webcam going up there sometime?
14:29
or was that my job :)
14:30
cliebow_: thanks, we have a very simple mission, we want to become the best DAW on the planet!!
14:35
cliebow_: just so all you guys know we are very interested in the prospect of openoctave in schools
14:35
music education is part of what we want to do moving forward
14:42
<cliebow_>
ohh..let me forward this to our music guys..
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14:43
<cliebow_>
done!
14:45
mistik1:i am going down after lunch..Sewe wht they are all up to
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14:49* mistik1 wonders how well oomidi would work in an ltsp setting
14:50
<mistik1>
maybe as a localapp
14:50
or with netjack
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15:40
<pr0d>
Hi all can anyone help me fix my issue with ltsp, I can boot the thin client and a gui login appears but i cannot login. ctrl+alt+f1 can login into root and the user i have created
15:40
Not sure what to do from here
15:41
cant seem to find any help on google, im using ubuntu 11.10 64bit and a i386 thin client
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<alkisg>
pr0d: use a user account that you have on the server, not in the chroot
15:43
The LTSP login screen, called, LDM, is using ssh to connect to the server, so you need a server user
15:43
<pr0d>
shall i delete the user i have created in chroot?
15:44
<alkisg>
Yes
15:44
<pr0d>
Worked a charm, ty so much
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<pr0d>
I wasnt using ssh, silly default..
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15:46
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: ping?
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<cliebow_>
vagrantc: what are you guys up to?
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<vagrantc>
cliebow_: i'm still waking up ... but jim gave a little starter welcome introduction sort of thing, thanking all our fine sponsors, and i get the impression others have been hacking all morning
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16:13
<cliebow_>
righto..i m leaving school here shortly..Know if anyone needs anything??
16:13
<pr0d>
Hi all again, I am constantly getting errors about locales, cannot change local (en_GB)
16:13
any ideas?
16:13
<laprag>
cliebow_: I think we are good. How many lobsters do you wnat for tomorrow?
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<cliebow_>
not.. i had a bad reaction last month..so taking it real easy
16:17
none.
16:18
got all prickly..lips got wierd..
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<cliebow_>
laprag: none Ragnar.. i had a bad reaction last month..so taking it real easy
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<kusznir>
mistik1, does openoctave do "live sound capture" (eg, is it appropriate for recording / live sound apps? Kinda like ardour?)
16:39
<mistik1>
kusznir: sure
16:40
<kusznir>
LTSP question: on ltsp5/ubuntu 11.04, should dual-monitors "just work"? I've got a Detoss TC5 with dual-dvi, the second monitor always stays blank. (Wasn't able to do it with 9.10 either).
16:41
mistik1: does it work with firewire audio devices (or does it just depend on Jack to get audio)? Any ideas on how close it comes to real-time? I've been trying to build a "live sound" system using some Presonus Firepods and linux for some time now. At my peak, I managed to get to about 7ms delay, but the band complained about their monitors being too delayed.
16:42
LTSP question continued: I also have what's supposed to be the new revision of the tC5 (which is a fair bit different and only supports 1DVI, 1VGA), and on that system, the two monitors are always mirrored.
16:42
<mistik1>
kusznir: please join us in #openoctave for that discussion, I dont want to flood this channel with that
16:43
<kusznir>
Err..sorry, the maker isn't Detoss, its DevonIT, their linux OS is called DeToss, and it does support dual-head. Hardware is atom N270 w/ Intel 945 graphics.
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<laprag>
clie
16:49
cliebow_: OK
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18:03
<sbalneav>
Boo
18:03
vagrantc: If you could paste that compile log report...
18:04
<vagrantc>
https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=ltspfs&arch=amd64&ver=0.9-1&stamp=1313195394
18:04
sbalneav: ^^
18:04
<sbalneav>
kk, thx
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<stgraber>
ogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/ltspfs/ltspfs-packaging
18:18
<ogra_>
thx
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18:54
<Hyperbyte>
kusznir, still need screen help?
18:54
<kusznir>
Yep.
18:55
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, hi! You pinged me in the middle of the Radio 1 show. :)
18:55
<alkisg>
Whooops sorry :)
18:55
<Hyperbyte>
kusznir, run 'xrandr' on the clients and read the manpage for xrandr.
18:55
<kusznir>
Hyperbyte, cool, will-try.
18:55
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, haha, no, you didn't disturb me. I'm just saying: that's why I didn't respond, I'm here now.
18:56
kusznir, once you figure out the correct changes for each machine (I assume on one you have to disable LVDS1 and on the other enable VGA1 or something), you can set the options per-client on startup, with the XRANDR_* configuration options in lts.conf
18:56
!lts.conf
18:56
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
18:57
<vagrantc>
Hyperbyte: we were working on volunteering you for some things!
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18:57
<jammcq>
hey all
18:58* vagrantc waves to jammcq
18:58
<jammcq>
vagrantc: how's it going?
18:58
Hyperbyte: hello
18:58
<cliebow>
bac_:yougotmy phone #?
19:00
<Hyperbyte>
Hey jammcq :)
19:01
vagrantc, that would sound very scary, if I didn't have an idea of what you're talking about.
19:02
:)
19:03
Can you say hi to everyone from me? :-)
19:04
<jammcq>
so... should we talk about LTSP website stuff?
19:04
<Hyperbyte>
We can. Where and how?
19:04
<jammcq>
well... since it would be difficult for you to be physically here, we'll have to do it in IRC
19:04
<cliebow>
sounds good to me
19:04
<jammcq>
should we open a separate channel?
19:04
<Hyperbyte>
Sure.
19:05
<jammcq>
it's pretty quiet here right n ow
19:05
<Hyperbyte>
PM me details? :)
19:05
<kusznir>
Hyperbyte, I've read the man page and played with xrandr some, but I haven't figured out how to get a listing of the displays (Eg, LVDS1, VGA1, etc)
19:05
<jammcq>
we wouldn't be interfering with anyone
19:05
<kusznir>
How do I find what's attached?
19:05
<Hyperbyte>
kusznir, just typing 'xrandr' does that I think.
19:05
<alkisg>
http://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Issue_.232:_Warning:_.22.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-mtab_is_not_a_symlink_or_not_pointing_to_.2BAC8-proc.2BAC8-self.2BAC8-mounts.22
19:05
<jammcq>
let's do this in #ltsp_website
19:05
<kusznir>
Hyperbyte, it only shows the one screen, and there's no label.
19:06
<jammcq>
sbalneav: ping
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<jammcq>
alkisg: need some of your input on #ltsp_website
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<Hyperbyte>
kusznir, I think (not sure) you need to run xrandr in a local xterm
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!localxterm
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<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: localxterm: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
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<Hyperbyte>
I'm not at work, so don't have LTSP client to check, sorry.
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<mnevans>
Hello LTSP world. I am having trouble setting the correct display resolution for a new ltsp client with 1920x1080 display. I have the following in lts.conf:
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/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf:
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[default]
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CONFIGURE_X=True
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X_MODE_0=1920x1080
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X_CONF=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
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LOCALDEV=True
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SOUND=True
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CONFIGURE_FSTAB=False
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XRANDR_MODE_0 = 1920x1080
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in /opt/ltsp/amd64/etc/X11/xorg.conf I have:
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Section "Screen"
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Identifier "Default Screen"
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Device "Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200eW WPCM450 (rev 0a)"
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Monitor "m1"
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DefaultDepth 24
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SubSection "Display"
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Depth 24
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Modes "1920x1080"
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EndSubSection
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EndSection
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I've restarted the Xsession, but all I get are a set of resolutions that are 4:3, 5:4 and 9:5, but none that reflect these settings. What am I doing wrong? Server is ubuntu 10.10.
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Thanks in advance.
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<Hyperbyte>
Holy crap. :)
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!pastebin
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<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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<Hyperbyte>
:)
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<Hyperbyte>
As for a solution, you need Gadi. He's the expert in this matter. :)
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<mnevans>
I apologize - this is probably my 2nd chat ever. I pasted the relevant snippets to: http://pastebin.com/sjzfMC54
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I think!
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<Hyperbyte>
Paste the output of 'xrandr'
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(and when I say 'paste' I really mean 'pastebin')
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<mnevans>
Got it... http://pastebin.com/GJs6LGVD
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<Hyperbyte>
It seems to think 1280x960 is the optimal resolution
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What's the output of 'xrandr' when you run it in a local xterm?
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!localxterm
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<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: localxterm: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
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<mnevans>
Yes. I think I added the last resolution listed when I ran cvt and then used the output to add the display settings using xandr.
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I have the local xterm window...
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<Hyperbyte>
What's the output of 'xrandr'?
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<mnevans>
http://pastebin.com/1vfBa3R2
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In the local terminal I don't see /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
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But I thought I told ltsp in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf X_CONF=/etc/X11/xorg.conf. Shouldn't it have loaded that?
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<Hyperbyte>
Meh
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You need Gadi. :)
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Stick around for a bit.
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<mnevans>
Hope is the thing with feathers... thanks for your help. I have to go home but can check in later. Is there any other information that would help?
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Have to go now... back in about 3-4 hours. Thanks again!
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