IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 18 October 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<andygraybeals>
so you have two account db's? and consolidating them is out of the question?
00:00
<cliebow>
hehe..papercut would spesk to the exsting openldap..so i had to build new and import the old
00:00
would not
00:00
<andygraybeals>
aahh.. pos
00:01
<cliebow>
and ended up setting all pws to 1234..hows that for security
00:02
i suppose when people hget used to it..ill build a csv with name,pw and import that in to papercut ldap
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00:14
<cliebow>
heh
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00:26
<cliebow>
heh
00:30
<andygraybeals>
lost internet.. !!
00:30
back again ... hiopefully just an intermittent hiccup
00:30
<cliebow>
thought so..
00:31
8~)
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10:54
<xsl>
hello all, anyone here has skype as local-app ?
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<andygraybeal>
monrining
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12:55
<alkisg>
@#$(*&@#(& strikes that cancel flights for 2 days... :-/
12:55
<andygraybeal>
:(((
12:55
<muppis>
alkisg, are you pissed off from your goverment?
12:55
<andygraybeal>
are you trying to get to maine?
12:55* alkisg will come to NY 2 days later now, at Fri 21st
12:56
<alkisg>
muppis: I am, but now I'm more pissed about the strike :P
12:56
andygraybeal: yup, I'll (hopefully) be there at BTS this year
12:56
<muppis>
Sure thing. >) Hope you get there.
12:57
<andygraybeal>
canada's postal workers went on strike for about forever.. omg.. and i had two things coming from canada at that time!! i waited months.
12:57
i never order things from canada! my luck.
12:58
i know that story doesn't really help you :P
12:58
i just wanted to share, co-misery
12:59* alkisg eats all the greek baklavas that he would bring to BTS to soften his misery... :P :D
12:59
<andygraybeal>
:)
13:01
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, you can come to the Netherlands 3 days before the 21st, and then fly from here. ;-)
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13:01
<Hyperbyte>
Meanwhile you can fix aaaaaaaall my problems with LTSP. :P
13:01
<alkisg>
Hehe, I'd have to drive though, no flights there either :(
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13:08
<Hyperbyte>
I meant you can fly here a day before the strike in Greece, and then fly with proper Dutch airlines to BTS. :P
13:08
But I was joking anyways. :) Not that you're not welcome, but I doubt UDS would sponsor it.
13:08
*Canonical
13:09
<alkisg>
Yeah, and also it's impossible to fly today, the airports are too far (strike starts tomorrow)
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13:40
<Hyperbyte>
I don't think I could sit in an airplane for 8 hours.
13:41
Well I -could-, but I'd probably go a little crazy.
13:41
I almost nearly died of boredom on the 1.5 hour flight to Norway
13:42
I was actually hoping for some turbulence or engine failure or something, to spice things up.
13:43
<highvoltage>
Hyperbyte: wow :)
13:43
Hyperbyte: like in Fight Club!
13:49
<Hyperbyte>
Yeah!
13:49
<brunolambert>
the first rule about fight club is not to talk about it.
13:49
<Hyperbyte>
It was my first time flying, everyone said I would absolutely love it.
13:50
I thought it was the most boring thing ever. Never had any problems with sitting in a train for 4.5 hours going to Germany, always nice sights, people to sit opposite to and talk to...
13:50
But airplanes, maaaan... most boring way of transport EVER.
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14:00
<highvoltage>
Hyperbyte: yeah I don't know why some people like it. I don't see the attraction in being trapped in a big tin can full of people breathing in the same germs over and over
14:02
<andygraybeal>
i <3 recycled air :)
14:02
<alkisg>
Indeed, bangee jumping is much better, no germs there :D
14:02
<andygraybeal>
i can't imagine flying across seas.
14:04
across from the west coast ot the east coast of the US is bad enough
14:07
<highvoltage>
andygraybeal: over the atlantic isn't that bad, that's 6-7 hours. from europe to cape town is 10-11 hours :(
14:07
<andygraybeal>
omg, you do that?
14:07
<highvoltage>
yep
14:07
<andygraybeal>
from north to south earth? wow.
14:07
<highvoltage>
and sometimes I do them both, like next month I'm crossing the atlantic and then down all the way south (total travel time is around 22 hours)
14:08
<andygraybeal>
why do you do this?
14:08* alkisg has 26 on friday :)
14:09
<highvoltage>
andygraybeal: because I'm scared of teleportation. I realise that what makes you is technically your thoughts and the way your brain is bound, but I had that the old me is effectively destroyed when the new me is recreated somewhere. call me old fashioned.
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14:09
<highvoltage>
s/had/hate/
14:09
<andygraybeal>
haha, awesome.
14:09
maybe it would work better in teleconference?
14:10
<highvoltage>
andygraybeal: attending weddings / having a 30th birthday party / etc kind of sucks via teleconference :)
14:10
<andygraybeal>
omg, your crazy. and jetset :)
14:11
<highvoltage>
I know people who are way worse, like stgraber and ogra_ :)
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14:12
<highvoltage>
(but it's part of their job)
14:12
<alkisg>
Having a 30th birthday never sucks if there are people around you that have their 40th :P
14:13
<highvoltage>
alkisg: my father told me that he doesn't feel old turning 60 next year, he said that he feels as good as he did when he was 20. Then I told him "yeah! and when you're turning 60 I'm turning 30 so we'll have lots of parties next year!" then he said "what!? you're turning 30!? *now* I feel old!"
14:14
<alkisg>
Hehe, true, I felt old when I realized my older daughter is just 4 kg less than my wife, and she's about to wear bigger shoes etc
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14:16
<andygraybeal>
congrats on kids man, i keep trying
14:17
maybe i don't got it in me
14:17
<alkisg>
andygraybeal: how old are you?
14:17
<andygraybeal>
33
14:17
34? i dunno
14:17
<alkisg>
And your wife?
14:17
<andygraybeal>
32
14:17
<alkisg>
Yeah it's about time - not so much for you but for her
14:17
<andygraybeal>
yea :)
14:17
she doesn't have many more days.
14:18
<alkisg>
Don't be too anxious about it though, I've heard of couples trying for years, then giving up, and then they got 2 kids :D
14:18
<ogra_>
andygraybeal, we're all just economy class jet-set ... dont get hyped by the jet-set term ... its no fun without legroom ;)
14:18
<alkisg>
Relaxing helps...
14:18
<andygraybeal>
nice
14:18
to both :)
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<highvoltage>
alkisg: yeah, our admin person here and her husband tried for a long time and nothing. when they gave up and the pressure was off she got pregnant just a few months later
14:29
<andygraybeal>
she is trying to not get pregnant.. i'm not letting her know i'm trying :)
14:29
she's not using anything though.. she just won't let me have any after she's ovulated.
14:30
<Hyperbyte>
andygraybeal, wait, you're trying to impregnate your wife without her approval?
14:31
This sounds like risky business.
14:31
<andygraybeal>
yes, risky.
14:31
i have gifted her a knife and soon a gun.. very risky.
14:31
<Hyperbyte>
Have you considered talking to her about it? Tell her you love her, that she's got beautiful eyes, and you'd like another pair of those in your family? Or something....
14:32
<andygraybeal>
nice :)
14:32
<highvoltage>
rodl
14:33
*rofl
14:33
<Hyperbyte>
Hehehe
14:34
I would seriously consider talking to her man. :P That, or benzodiazepines.
14:34
<andygraybeal>
what is that?
14:34
<Hyperbyte>
That is a bad joke.
14:34
<andygraybeal>
oh, yea, i don't know my drug nbames
14:34
:)
14:35
roofies?
14:35
<Hyperbyte>
Yeah, like I said - bad joke. :P
14:35
<andygraybeal>
hehehe
14:35
<Hyperbyte>
Try the talking route first.
14:35
<andygraybeal>
ah whatevs :)
14:35
i have.. she says no
14:36
she says she's got to lose weight first
14:36
we'll see
14:36
<alkisg>
Haha
14:36
Usually it's the opposite
14:36
<veloutin>
andygraybeal: sex is great weight lost exercice
14:36
loss*
14:36
<andygraybeal>
veloutin, nice, i will remind her of that.
14:36
<alkisg>
They like to gain weight when they're pregnant
14:36
<Hyperbyte>
veloutin, *exercise
14:36
;-)
14:36
<alkisg>
Oooh the room has a spell checking bot...
14:37
<Hyperbyte>
Hahaha
14:37
<alkisg>
...let me see if I can make it spell-check my website... :P
14:37
!spellcheck http://www.epoptes.org
14:37
<ltsp>
alkisg: Error: "spellcheck" is not a valid command.
14:37
<veloutin>
Hyperbyte: I typed it in le French :P
14:37
<alkisg>
Bah
14:37
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, too bad.
14:37
veloutin, ah, mais oui!
14:38
<alkisg>
!learn spellcheck as If you want to spell check your sentences, type "sentense | echo Hyperbyte" :P
14:38
<ltsp>
Hyperbyte" :P The operation succeeded.
14:38
<alkisg>
!forget spellcheck
14:38
<ltsp>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
14:38
<alkisg>
:P
14:38
<highvoltage>
ooh, I haven't seen the epoptes website yet, very nice
14:38
<veloutin>
s/sentense/sentence
14:38
:P
14:39
oh wait. I just trolled myself :(
14:39
<Hyperbyte>
veloutin++
14:39
<alkisg>
highvoltage: that's what I want to propose for ltsp.org too, I can do it in an afternoon at BTS
14:39
Google sites are just fine for developers sites (knowing that developers rarely care about sites :P)
14:39
<Hyperbyte>
Yeah, and knowing that developers generally create crappy websites.
14:39* Hyperbyte coughs
14:39
<highvoltage>
heh
14:40
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: hey, wanna talk about it?
14:42
<Hyperbyte>
Yes, sure.
14:42* Hyperbyte discusses andygraybeal's attempts at pregnation with alkisg in private
14:42
<alkisg>
Hehe
14:42
<andygraybeal>
hah
14:47* Gadi wonders why andygraybeal is attempting to impregnate alkisg in private ....
14:47
<andygraybeal>
hush!
14:48
he'll be here on friday!
14:48
<Gadi>
\o/
14:49* alkisg doesn't want to look like schwarzenegger pregnant (at the movie), so he'll also say "no" like andygraybeal's wife :D
14:51
<andygraybeal>
:)
14:52
<alkisg>
Gadi: no baklavas for you, I just ate it. :P
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<andygraybeal>
:)
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<Gadi>
hehe
15:00
no shortage of baklava in NY
15:04
<Hyperbyte>
I was gonna say, I didn't even know baklava was Greek
15:04
It's sold on every corner here in Rotterdam, so to speak.
15:05
<andygraybeal>
gifts are always tastier :)
15:06
<Hyperbyte>
Well that's true.
15:06
But he could just buy you fresh baklava in New York. :P
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<alkisg>
It wouldn't taste the same :)
15:11
<andygraybeal>
yea, everything in NY tastes like statton island.
15:11
:P
15:11
<Gadi>
ouch
15:11
<andygraybeal>
i'm all like.. yup.. there's a garbage dump across the way.
15:12
i slept outside while i lived there.. i felt like the slime from the dump just caked my pours in the morning dew.
15:12
it was great.
15:12
i'm just kidding aobut the taste of everything :)
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<alkisg>
andygraybeal, Gadi, so if you want, arrange some coffee break between friday and the bts...
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<Gadi>
andygraybeal: are you in NY?
15:14
<andygraybeal>
speaking of LTSP, where does the lease file live for dhcpd3? i know the config file lives in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd3.conf.
15:14
Gadi, naw bro.. i'm over in southeastern ohio, i lived out of my car for 3 months in statton island, mowing what lawns people had and running cat5 in skyscrapers in the late 90's.
15:14
anything to make a buck.
15:14
<Gadi>
sounds like fun
15:15
:)
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<andygraybeal>
it was tremendous fun, as long as my coworkers didn't mind that i never showerd.
15:15
<Gadi>
in Staten Island, who'd know? ;)
15:15
<andygraybeal>
every gas station has a deli.. :) unbelievable.
15:15
Gadi, tu true.
15:15
*Staten, sorry i been spelling it wrong
15:16
<Gadi>
its ok - blame the Germans
15:16
:)
15:16
or the Dutch
15:16
<andygraybeal>
hah
15:16
<Gadi>
prolly the Dutch
15:16
<andygraybeal>
does it go back that far?
15:16
<Gadi>
sure
15:16
<andygraybeal>
man, the dutch brought us lots of good things.
15:16
<Gadi>
yeah. nice of them to build New Amsterdam here
15:17
<khildin>
thnx for noticing... :P
15:17
<andygraybeal>
so where is this dhcpd leases file?
15:17
i'm looining in /var
15:17
<alkisg>
/var/run/dhcp something?
15:17
/var/run/dhcp something?
15:18
<andygraybeal>
i see the pid file in dhcp3-server ... not a .leases
15:18
<Gadi>
/var/lib/shcpd.leases
15:18
*dhcpd.leases
15:19
<andygraybeal>
nice thanks gadi
15:19
<Gadi>
erc. /var/lib/dhcp3/dhcpd.leases
15:19
whew
15:19
<fellowEnt>
speaking of dhcp, I'm trying to use an existing windows dhcp server but I'm not having much luck :(
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15:20
<fellowEnt>
I've configured options: 17, 66 and 67
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<alkisg>
!gpxe
15:20
<ltsp>
alkisg: gpxe: the successor to etherboot (http://etherboot.org). To download bootable floppy, cd, usb, kernel etc images, visit http://rom-o-matic.net/
15:20
<alkisg>
gpxe has a "config" menu which lists what the client actually gets from dhcp
15:21
It's very nice for troubleshooting dhcp problems
15:21
So, boot a client with gpxe (e.g. usb stick or cd), press ctrl+b to get to a command line, and type:
15:21
<fellowEnt>
ty sir
15:21
<alkisg>
dhcp net0
15:21
config
15:21
There you'll see what the client gets
15:22
It needs the boot filename, root path and next-server as a minimum
15:22
<fellowEnt>
I removed isc-dhcp-server package all together, mistake?
15:23
<alkisg>
No
15:23
It's ok
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<fellowEnt>
I'm sorry, what's the equivalent of "next-server" on windows?
16:04
<alkisg>
tftp server? no idea
16:04
There's a windowsdhcpsetup page
16:04
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP
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<fellowEnt>
this is what I used initially, it doesn't mention next-server
16:05
<alkisg>
066 Boot Server Host Name: <ip address>
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<jammcq>
alkisg: hey
17:59
<alkisg>
Hi jammcq!
17:59* alkisg was supposed to by flying to NY right now, but the flight has been postponed for 2 days due to strikes :(
18:00
<jammcq>
when are you flying?
18:00
whoa
18:00
strikes in greece?
18:00
<alkisg>
Yes... I was flying at 04:00, the strike will start at 0:00 :(
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<alkisg>
jammcq: when was that restaurant dinner again?
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18:09* alkisg hopes he won't arrive too late for it
18:09
<jammcq>
wednesday
18:10
<alkisg>
Cool
18:10
<jammcq>
how are you hooking up with Gadi?
18:10
<alkisg>
I'll give him a call when I arrive, we'll probably go for a coffee from Monday on
18:11
<pscheie>
jammcq, have you booked the hotel yet?
18:11
<jammcq>
pscheie: not yet. i'll call soon, maybe today
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<pscheie>
jammcq, can I get a single?
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<jammcq>
i can check
18:12
<pscheie>
if possible; no biggie if not.
18:15
<alkisg>
vagrantc: Hi benevolent possibly-future-sponsor! :) A quick question, if you have time for it?
18:15
The epoptes UI controls the clients via a unix socket, which on Ubuntu is owned by root:admin, so anyone in the admin group can use the GUI without sudo.
18:15
In Debian there's no admin group by default, and I don't think it's a good idea to add it at postinst...
18:15
I'm thinking of creating an "epoptes" system group instead, and have the unix socket owned by that group, so the sysadmin will then have to add the "teachers" in that group... does that sound sane?
18:16
(other than that, and 2 missing icons, I just tried epoptes on wheezy and it worked fine :))
18:16
(directly from our oneiric -proposed ppa :))
18:17
<vagrantc>
alkisg: sounds sane to me
18:17
<alkisg>
ty!
18:18
<vagrantc>
the BTS is mostly arriving thursday, but there's a dinner wednesday?
18:18
<alkisg>
Can you come to NY a couple of days sooner?
18:19
<jammcq>
vagrantc: a couple of us passing through NYC next week
18:19
enroute to maine
18:19
also, it's at a steakhouse, not sure it's something you'd want to partake in. although, if you are in the area...
18:20
<vagrantc>
jammcq: ahh
18:20* vagrantc is cruising in through boston
18:21
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i'd have to take off more days of work and rearrange non-refundable plane tickets...
18:21
<alkisg>
Ouch /me just had to rearrange tickets + hotels and didn't like it at all
18:22
The lady at the NY hotel reception had a very hard time understanding me over the phone :)
18:22
(strikes at greece delayed my flight for 2 days)
18:27
<vagrantc>
ouch
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<DawnLight|>
Hello
22:48
Anyone here?
22:59
I'm interested in over the internet desktop sessions and have been wondering how well can ltsp perform over internet given modern requirements like youtube or other streaming or local video playback
23:04
<abeehc>
i think that's not really within the scope of ltsp, you might be looking for this http://code.google.com/p/neatx/
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<DawnLight|>
abeehc what do you think is outside there scope of ltsp?
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<DawnLight>
connection trouble. Did you answer?
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