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Channel log from 7 May 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<Katrinka>
Hello!
01:44
Is there anyone&
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?
01:44
nobody..... :,(
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<bao>
can someone help me?
02:57
I have an problem in xdmcp in my system
02:59
my linux is opensuse 10.2, using only xdm, but no gdm (gnome) or kdm (kde)
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<bao>
can someone help me?
03:01
I have an problem in xdmcp in my system
03:01
my linux is opensuse 10.2, using only xdm, but no gdm (gnome) or kdm (kde)
03:02
when I run command ltspcfg, it tells me :Checking xdmcp...........Found: none!
03:02
what shoud I do?
03:02
hello jam
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<bao>
hello
03:05
can someone help me in ltsp?
03:09
time
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<vagrantc>
ogra: you around?
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<bao>
hello
03:14
is someone here?
03:14
<ogra>
vagrantc, yep
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<cyberorg>
bao: yast2 -> /etc/sysconfig editor -> Desktop -> displaymanager -> displaymanager_remote_access -> yes
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<bao>
I think I have done it, let me check it again
03:15
<vagrantc>
ogra: jammcq was wondering if we might grab you for a bit ... we've got some of the kernel folks here with us
03:15
<ogra>
is that the bootspeed thing now ?
03:15
<RichEd>
vagrantc: he's in edubuntu add-ons with me
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<bao>
thanks cyberorg
03:16
<ogra>
RichEd, we need to schedule a second session with mvo anyway for that
03:16
<vagrantc>
ogra: yeah, boot speed
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<cyberorg>
hi ogra vagrantc
03:16
<ogra>
so working out the basics is enough for now
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<RichEd>
vagrantc: ask jammcq if he can get into IRC please ... nicely
03:16
<vagrantc>
cyberorg: howedy
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<cyberorg>
cool, all of you guys at UDS?
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<vagrantc>
jammcq is fighting with network manager
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<RichEd>
cyberorg: the core LTSP guys are all here in 2 rooms ... not including me as a core guy, but I'm here as well
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<bao>
my xdmcp problem is still there
03:26
can someone help
03:27
hi guys
03:27
#help
03:28
<cyberorg>
bao: try to connect over xdmcp from the client
03:28
you can do that by running X -query serverip at runlevel 3 after logging in
03:29
<bao>
do you mean I needn't care setup ltspcfg now?
03:29
<cyberorg>
if you have finished setup except of that error, try booting client
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<bao>
ok, I will try it, thanks
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<cyberorg>
bao: if you are interested in testing ltsp5 on suse visit en.opensuse.org/LTSP for more info
03:31
<bao>
oh, I will try it
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<cyberorg>
it doesnt require xdmcp :)
03:31
<bao>
really?
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<cyberorg>
sound and local printer still needs some work before they will work, local disks access sort of works
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<bao>
I don't care sound and printer so far
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<cyberorg>
cool, but it is far far away from production readiness
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<bao>
nice
03:35
where can I download ltsp 5?
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<cyberorg>
here is the status page http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/LTSP_Meeting_2007-04-24
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<RichEd>
bao ... ltsp 5 is nicely packaged and integrated for ubuntu ;)
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<Bhaskar1>
where can i find good documentation about LTSP 5
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<vagrantc>
!ltsp5
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<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "ltsp5" is ltsp5 is The next version of LTSP, and the future of Thin Client computing on GNU/Linux. http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5
03:39
<bao>
does ltsp 5 work with opensuse 10.2 (x86_64)?
03:39
<vagrantc>
bao: sounds like they're just getting started with ltsp5
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<RichEd>
Bhaskar1: sbalneav does most of the documentation ... he's around here with me for a bit ... but not online now ... vagrantc ask scotty for a pointer please
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<vagrantc>
bao: but as long as oponsuse supports x86_64, then the opensuse ltsp5 implementation should work fine when it's finished.
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<bao>
oh, I wish it is even easy to setup
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<ogra>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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thats ow the suse variant should work as well
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(if its done :) )
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<cyberorg>
ogra log way from done :)
03:41
*long
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<ogra-classmate>
we'll get you there :-)
03:42
<cyberorg>
ogra yeah i'll eat you guy's brains out till you do
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<bao>
I can download ltsp 4.2 iso file and burn to a cd for setup, is there iso file for ltsp5 now?
03:43
<ogra>
there are tarballs
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<cyberorg>
bao: iso files are history with ltsp5
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<bao>
?
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<cyberorg>
http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/LTSP_Meeting_2007-04-24 has a link to download
03:44
here is a howto http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-04/msg00390.html
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except the dest path is changed to suse default for all servers /srv/
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<bao>
ok
03:46
it seems not very easy for me to get through ltsp5
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<vagrantc>
it's very easy on ubuntu and debian :)
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<ogra>
sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server
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sudo ltsp-build-client
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...
03:48
whats hard about that ?
03:48
:)
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<nf1>
ogra, :)
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<cyberorg>
ogra: on suse it is just Run as root "sh /usr/share/kiwi/image/kwltsp-suse-10.2/setup-ltsp.sh"
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<ogra>
right
03:49
thats how it should be :)
03:49
<bao>
oh
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<cyberorg>
sets up /srv/kiwi-ltsp chroot image, sets up nfs export, sets up initrd and kernel images in tftpboot
03:50
only thing that needs to be done manually is set up dhcp to pxeboot
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<bao>
oh, i would very like to try it, thanks cyberorg
03:52
BTW, what's reason of my problem in ltsp4.2, your guess?
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<Bhaskar1>
ogra, offline method to integrate LTSP 5 in debian
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<cyberorg>
bao: if you test xdmcp we would know if there actually is any problem :)
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<vagrantc>
Bhaskar1: grab the tarball
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!tarball
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<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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<bao>
but ltspcfg tell me : Checking xdmcp...........Found: none!
03:55
<ogra>
Bhaskar1, in ubuntu we have it on the installer CD, you just pick it in an expert install ... or you take edubuntu which defaults to instal it
03:56
<Bhaskar1>
ogra, i have now install edubuntu 7.04
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<ogra>
i assume debian has taken that but i never tested any debian CDs so i cant promis its ther :)
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<Bhaskar1>
i have debian based distro, i want to integrate LTSP 5 on that
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<cyberorg>
bao: boot up any machine on the network, run X -query serveripaddress
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<vagrantc>
Bhaskar1: apt-get install ltsp-server (or ltsp-server-standalone) and then run ltsp-build-client
03:58
Bhaskar1: on debian etch
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<Bhaskar1>
ya, but offline, i have try but my system is crashed
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<vagrantc>
Bhaskar1: debian is the 2nd distro to implement ltsp5
03:59
<Bhaskar1>
ya, but i have Nepalinux based on debian, i want to integrate
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<vagrantc>
Bhaskar1: does nepalinux include the ltsp-server package and ltsp-client packages ?
04:00
<Bhaskar1>
no
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<vagrantc>
well, you'll need those ...
04:01
Bhaskar1: nepalinux is based on debian?
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<Bhaskar1>
i have download 150 MB, package and run apt-get install ltsp-server (or ltsp-server-standalone) and then run ltsp-build-client
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<vagrantc>
no need to download the 150MB tarball if you install ltsp-server
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<Bhaskar1>
vagrantc, ya, Nepalinux is based on debian
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<vagrantc>
follow the instructions on !tarball
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!tarball
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<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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<Bhaskar1>
ok
04:03
vagrantc, i want to packaging this into Live CD also not in single pc
04:04
vagrantc, !tarball , can be used after installing syatem, ya
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vagrantc, http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-5.0/ltsp_debian_etch_i386-1.tar.bz2 i used this one and crashed my system
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<Nikopoika>
i'm having problems booting ltsp-client using floppy
04:11
i used rom-o-matic to create a floppy rom image for my nic, it works fine until trying to load kernel to client
04:13
"loading 192.168.11.1:/tftpboot/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 .."
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<Nikopoika>
also, if i check what bzImage... file contains, in the first row, it says "Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported"
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<Nikopoika>
might this be the answer to my problem? it just won't work with floppies?
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<jammcq>
Nikopoika: etherboot floppy booting should work just fine
04:49
that message just means you can't write the kernel to a floppy and expect it to boot
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<Nikopoika>
ok
04:50
what i've heard, booting should work fine, but mine just freezes to that "loading
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192.168.11.1:/tftpboot/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 .."
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<jammcq>
Nikopoika: do this: grep filename /etc/dhcpd.conf
04:50
yeah, you should NOT have the ip address in front of that
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<Nikopoika>
ok
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<cyberorg>
heh, i ran into that ip address thing too, added a line about it on ltsp.org wiki
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<vagrantc>
ogra_: how about some ldm improvements? :)
05:05
ogra_: we're doing that now, in F
05:05
<jammcq>
oh?
05:06
I thought we were doing gphoto-ltspfs
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: you haven't been reading the schedule again, have you? :P
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<jammcq>
well, I read the sign on the door
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<vagrantc>
ogra_: and sign yourself up for ltsp virtual hal devices ... you seem to keep getting scheduled for other things at the same time
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<Nikopoika>
cyberorg: u know what's wrong with this? can u help me please?
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<cyberorg>
Nikopoika: with what?
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<Nikopoika>
filename "/tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0"
05:23
filename "/tftpboot/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1"
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"< cyberorg> heh, i ran into that ip address thing too"
05:24
is there something wrong in my dhcpd.conf?
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<cyberorg>
Nikopoika: pastebin your dhcpd.conf
05:25
<Nikopoika>
ok, just a sec
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<cyberorg>
what is your tftpboot full path?
05:26
if it is /tftpboot then all you need there is "lts/2.xxxx/pxelinux.0"
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<ltsppbot>
"Nikopoika" pasted "configuration file" (27 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/121
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<cyberorg>
remove /tftpboot/ from the filename
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<Nikopoika>
ok
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<jammcq>
!s
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<ltspbot`>
jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
Hey jammcq
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<jkommeri>
why is it that when I set SCREEN_01=shell and SCREEN_01=startx (in lts.conf) my keyboard works but not the otherway around? Should it matter in what order I set the screens?
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<jammcq>
you are setting both ?
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<jkommeri>
/s/SCREEN_01=startx/SCREEN_02=startx
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<jammcq>
oh
07:46
what version of ltsp ?
07:46
<jkommeri>
5
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<cliebow_>
jammcq!!!! how's it going?
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<jammcq>
ok, you should be setting SCREEN_07 instead of SCREEN_01
07:46
cliebow_: going great
07:46
how you doin?
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<jkommeri>
jammcq: SCREEN_07=shell? or startx?
07:47
<cliebow_>
oh..ups and downs..still havfing fun !
07:49jammcq changes topic to "LTSP-5.0 is the current version that you should be using. Especially if you are a new to LTSP. Check out Ubuntu and Debian for awesome integration. Or, go to the LTSP Download page at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Downloads"
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<jammcq>
jkommeri: either one. My point is that LDM is already running on Screen 7, so you need to replace that.
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<jkommeri>
jammcq: ok
07:53
jammcq: thanks, that worked
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<highvoltage>
jammcq: http://photos.jonathancarter.co.za/ubuntu-guadalinex-2007
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<cliebow_>
highvoltage, thanks!
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<jsgotangco>
highvoltage: the call center is running on linux?
08:14
doh yes
08:14
"guadalinex call center"
08:14
:D
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<highvoltage>
jsgotangco: yes, although their main display is running some form of windows software
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<Burgundavia>
notice the windows app
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<jsgotangco>
ah shucks i sure did miss one big field trip
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<jsgotangco>
"that guy looks like that guy from the red hot chili peppers"
08:18
isn't that kiko?
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<Guaraldo>
Buenos dias, señores!
08:32
jammcq: Good morning... How are you doing?
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<jammcq>
Guaraldo: bom dia
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<danrez>
bom dia =)
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<mhterres>
morning
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<cliebow_>
mhterres:morning
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<anrke>
hello
09:54
Hello, I am a French user of ltsp. I bought two LTSP Term 1220 PXE thin client who do not function. "trying to load : pxelinux.cfg/01-0013-90-01-65-00" and that is all. I use ltsp5 on debian etch
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<Q-FUNK>
anrke: interesting model.
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<vagrantc>
anrke: it never gets to pxelinux.cfg/default ?
10:00
<anrke>
yes but I am not able to make it walk
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<anrke>
vagrantc : yes at the end. then it asks me to start again
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<vagrantc>
anrke: could you post the message ?
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<Guaraldo>
sbalneav: Good morning, Scotty!
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<anrke>
" pxelinux.cfg/01-0013-90-01-65-00" and c07800fs an "c0800f" and "coa800" and so on"
10:02
<vagrantc>
anrke: what is the very last line it says?
10:03
<anrke>
trying to load : pxelinux.cfg/default
10:03
and reboot
10:03
<vagrantc>
it just immediately reboots?
10:03
nothing else displayed on the screen ?
10:04
<anrke>
at the end of a few seconds
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10:04
it asks me to start again
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<vagrantc>
anrke: you told me the very last line is "trying to load : pxelinux.cfg/default"
10:05
<anrke>
yes
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<vagrantc>
anrke: but then you tell me "it asks me to start again"
10:06
what is the very last line on the screen before it reboots?
10:06
<anrke>
it asks me to start again
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<vagrantc>
well, i've never seen the error message "it asks me to start again".
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<anrke>
it is necessary that I start again the customer to read the messages again
10:09
sorry the thin client not the customer
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<vagrantc>
anrke: dpkg -l *tftpd*
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
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<highvoltage>
hey uncle jammcq.gz
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<jammcq>
highvoltage: howdie
10:33
<irule>
hiya
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<ogra_>
jammcq, where do you hide ?
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<jammcq>
ogra_: i'm up in the room
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<ogra>
napping ?
10:36
<jammcq>
umm, yeah
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<ogra>
:)
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<jammcq>
i'm sleeping right now, can't you tell ?
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<ogra>
heh
10:38
you are tlaking in your sleep ...
10:39
*talking as well
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<jammcq>
maybe I should snore
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<ogra>
dont hold back :)
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<jammcq>
hola
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<mhterres>
hola
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<Q-FUNK>
la-haut
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<cliebow_>
T33gan03
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T33gan03
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<fxrsliberty>
Hello all, anyone got s sec?
12:05
jammcq: how are you
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<cliebow_>
fxrsliberty, how are you doing?
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<fxrsliberty>
hey cliebow
12:08
do you know the lts.conf for ltsp5 that bypasses ldm
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<vagrantc>
SCREEN_07=startx
12:09
then you'll need to configure XDMCP on your server.
12:09
<fxrsliberty>
thanks
12:10
<cliebow_>
i was just gonna say that 8~)
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<vagrantc>
cliebow_: you can walk fxrsliberty through XDMCP configuration if they need it then :)
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<cliebow_>
finally one i can answer 8~)
12:12
<fxrsliberty>
is the word default in lts.conf "Default "?
12:12
<vagrantc>
[Default]
12:12
<fxrsliberty>
ty
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<fxrsliberty>
ok what steps to config xdmcp
12:17
<cliebow_>
fxrsliberty, ubuntu?
12:17
of course..
12:17
use gdmconfig from a commandline
12:17
<fxrsliberty>
nope
12:17
<Guaraldo>
fxrsliberty: gdm or kdm?
12:18
<fxrsliberty>
opensuse
12:18
<cliebow_>
and gdm?
12:18
<fxrsliberty>
yup
12:18
<Guaraldo>
cliebow_: maybe kdm... opensuse uses kde
12:19
fxrsliberty: doesn't?
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<fxrsliberty>
:)
12:19
<cliebow_>
fxrs: you have an /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess/
12:20
must have an Xaccess file somewhere
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<Guaraldo>
fxrsliberty: On gdm you must have a file named /etc/gdm/gdm.conf... on kdm you must have /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
12:20
<cliebow_>
!grayscreen
12:20
<ltspbot`>
cliebow_: "grayscreen" is No login, and only a grey screen? See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen#GDM
12:20
<cliebow_>
fxrsliberty, try this url
12:21
<fxrsliberty>
TY
12:22
<Guaraldo>
YW, fxrsliberty!
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<fxrsliberty>
ttyl?
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<jammcq_>
dobwan: ping
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<Katrinka>
hello!!!
13:11
somebody!
13:11
help me with installing g++ on ltsp-4.2!!!
13:12
i don't see sources at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17723
13:12
what version do i need?
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
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<cliebow_>
zup?
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<jammcq>
not much
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<cliebow_>
good food?
13:19
<jammcq>
yeah, we've found some great places
13:20
poor scotty has picked up a cold
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he's upstairs sleeping right now
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<cliebow_>
tjhat happens quite a lot to him,poorbaby *~
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<jammcq>
hmm, usually it's me getting the cold
13:21
I had a terrible cold last year in Paris
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<bawetic>
I have a Edubuntu server with thin client running. How is it possible to get gdm on the client in french ? Hanx
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<danrez>
i have some wireless clients running Slax and connecting win2003 terminal server but now i would like to conect these thinclients to LTSP... slax got ip from DHCPD.. setting filename parameter on dhcpd.conf will Slax gets ltsp-kernel and connect to ltsp X server ?
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<Guaraldo>
danrez: Booting from dhcp???
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<danrez>
booting from slax CD
15:13
these thinclients are wireless
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<Guaraldo>
danrez: I mean... It will not take the kernel, but you can use LTSP server changing X configuration (startx script)
15:14
danrez: How it is a cd... I dont know how you can do that...
15:14
<danrez>
configuring xdmcp
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<Guaraldo>
danrez: Does this clients are able to boot for wireless network (Is that possible?)?
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<danrez>
do u slax ?
15:15
its a livecd slackware based...
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<Guaraldo>
danrez: On server you must configure XDMCP
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<danrez>
it confiogures wireless cards and get ip from dhcp
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<Guaraldo>
danrez: Yep... I know Slax
15:16
<danrez>
will try to explain my problem...
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<Guaraldo>
but what i meant was if is that possible to boot from wireless network (without cd or hd)
15:17
<danrez>
no no no...
15:17
unfortunately.. this not possible..
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hmmm
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<sepski>
Guaraldo, only with a extrenal wifi2ethernet bridge.
15:17
<danrez>
i think its possible but not with not-very-expensive-pci-cards
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<lindi->
debugged xvnc4viewer and xrealvncviewer a lot today. it turns out that when the background color of the desktop changes the protocol sends hundreds of 16x16 tiles. this is not a problem as such as it is transferred almost instantly over ethernet. the problem is that xvnc4viewer does XShmPutImage for _every_ such 16x16 tile which takes 20-80 ms on a 200MHz
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<lindi->
not sure how relevant this is to ltsp though since i don't know if ltsp tries to only use X or if VNC is also an option ;)
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<kuzew0>
Hey all
19:38
Could anyone point me to a good howto on local devices and sound setup that they would recommend/have used, that would be great. I'm having a hard time on this one.
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<petre>
evening all
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<leandro>
Hi I am using Ubuntu edgy and I am unable to boot my client because he can't mount my nfs. But I am sure my nfs kernel server is running. Any ideas?
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<tomcats>
How come think client terminals are so expensive? You can get standard mobo, cpu and ram for less than $100 us yet thin client terminals are in the $250 pricerange...
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<gaga>
hello everyone
23:58
anyone here I can ask, am new to ltsp