IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 13 September 2016   (all times are UTC)

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23:23
<DRoberts>
Hello everyone:)
23:24
<razielle_tzu>
hi
23:25
<DRoberts>
For a small business, which distro would be the best for a ltsp headless rollout?
23:26
a community partnership is looking at ltsp, but it needs to be easy to update/run google chrome and handle youtube etc with donated computers for the thin clients.
23:30
<razielle_tzu>
i use ubuntu as the base for a charity run computer club that is now using thin clients for terminals, although most people bring in their own computers
23:32
<DRoberts>
I have always used ubuntu but since around 8ish when they changed from gnome 2 to unity everything seems to break during upgrades
23:32
have you had that issue?
23:33
<razielle_tzu>
i haven't had anything break yet, i'll find out on friday if anything has broken
23:33
<DRoberts>
the other issue i have had is the documentation seems all over the place
23:33
and i have had a hard time finding documentation about how to set up a ltsp server that is headless with 2 nics
23:34
<razielle_tzu>
my server has 2, possibly 3 NICs but i'm only able to make use of one due to where it is
23:34
<DRoberts>
and allowing normal pcs to connect to 2nd nic switch and have the server run as a filter for nsfw stuff for the network.
23:35
what i wanted to help them set up was isp > router > server nic 1 > server nic 2 filter/dhcp > switch > clients/allnetwork stuff
23:35
<razielle_tzu>
i wish i knew which set up/bot commands would help you but i'm pretty new to the channel and ltsp in general
23:36
!ltsp-pnp
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<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
23:36
<razielle_tzu>
this might be of use though
23:36
<DRoberts>
I am just glad to get a nice conversation for a change:) i always tend to seem to get peeps in irc that just complain at me for some noobie mistake instead of trying to help. i just guess i am unlucky.
23:37
<razielle_tzu>
:)
23:37
we all get unlucky sometimes
23:37
<DRoberts>
I saw the pnp stuff, but i read as far as "uses one nic"
23:37
and basically looks like router acts as the dhcp server etc
23:38
which means issues setting up some kind of filter.
23:38
<razielle_tzu>
yeah, for most users that is what is most beneficial it would seem
23:38
<DRoberts>
other thing is, does it work headless?
23:38
<razielle_tzu>
i ssh into my server rather than logging in with a monitor and keyboard directly so i would assume so
23:38
<DRoberts>
the one other thing i found a issue with ubuntu was, they keep changing things and don't stick to the "if its not broken don't fix it" thing.
23:39
<razielle_tzu>
i didn't use the guides from ubuntultsp though
23:39
<DRoberts>
have you heard of webmin?
23:39
its rather handy, check it out if u have not:)
23:39
<razielle_tzu>
sure, i used that during my last installation of ubuntu server
23:39
i prefer the command line though :)
23:39
<DRoberts>
yea, i just find handy
23:40
easier sometimes to copy/paste
23:40
<razielle_tzu>
it is for a variety of things
23:40
<DRoberts>
and having a visual file manager is helpful
23:40
<razielle_tzu>
you can attach an ssh session to most file managers on linx now
23:40
<DRoberts>
this might be helpful to you also sometime: https://vestacp.com/
23:40
saved me a lot of time
23:40
<razielle_tzu>
cool
23:41
<DRoberts>
:p just trying to repay the helpfulness with something that may be of use:p
23:42
<razielle_tzu>
thanks, i'll take a proper look at it in the morning :)
23:42
<DRoberts>
oooh
23:42
they added something to that page since i last looked at it
23:43
"It's recommended that you setup your network first. A static IP is suggested but not required for single NIC setups. If you're using a dual NIC setup, configure the internal NIC to 192.168.67.1."
23:43
the dual nic bit was not there when i looked last time. (was a while ago)
23:43
<razielle_tzu>
it's been updated in the last few weeks
23:43
<DRoberts>
what would the internal nic be, the one going to the clients?
23:43
<razielle_tzu>
possibly
23:45
<DRoberts>
o btw i suggest when u install webmin u change the default port
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and u go to securty and set the max login attempt stuff to stricter
23:45
few months ago someone released a scriptkiddy friendly script to attack webmin sites
23:46
even better, block all ports externally aside from the web and ssh
23:46
and use the -D flag on ssh to connect in as if your on the network
23:46
fire the browser to connect via localhost proxy
23:46
<razielle_tzu>
the internet connection at the computer club will only just allow remote webmin connections, anything else and it just times out
23:47
<DRoberts>
accepts ssh right?
23:47
or only webmin?
23:47
<razielle_tzu>
only webmin
23:47
<DRoberts>
why no ssh?
23:48
<razielle_tzu>
so i could use it as a webserver from outside the network but no ssh or vnc
23:48
i never got to the bottom of why
23:48
<DRoberts>
ssh with security cert auth would be more secure than webmin open to the wild
23:48
<razielle_tzu>
i know
23:48
there's neither webmin or ssh open to the wild atm though
23:49
<DRoberts>
do you use port knocking at all?
23:49
<razielle_tzu>
i've pentested the network from outside a couple of times
23:49
<DRoberts>
i have my own server running ssh behind a port knock, and a honeypot ssh running on default ssh port
23:49
<razielle_tzu>
cool
23:50
<DRoberts>
my brain unfortunately got a bit damaged, so its weird i can do some interesting things but can derp over some simple ones.
23:50
<razielle_tzu>
i keep debating setting a honeypot up somewhere but there's no data stored anywhere that puts people at risk on the network i manage so i haven't done so
23:51
<DRoberts>
it can lead to some funny things:)
23:51
by chance i was signed into my honeypot doing a test
23:51
when a script kiddie fell into it
23:51
<razielle_tzu>
i'm bipolar, that leads to some fun things too
23:51
<DRoberts>
i kinda trolled him a bit into thinking he hacked into a agi test system
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<razielle_tzu>
lol
23:52
<DRoberts>
had him thinking he was talking to a agi computer.
23:53
some peeps are just to gullable.
23:53
<razielle_tzu>
yeah
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<DRoberts>
when i got bored of him i said something along the lines of
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"if you wish to access the control options, remember the command to exit my auto reply is /exit"
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so the idiot closed his own ssh connection.
23:54
<razielle_tzu>
lol
23:54
<DRoberts>
then he came back and said
23:54
"that did not work over ssh it shut my connection off"
23:54
there was much facedesk.
23:55
<razielle_tzu>
heh
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<DRoberts>
have you installed sl ?
23:55
turns any ls typos into a ascii art train animation
23:56
cmatrix -s is kinda intresting also
23:56
<razielle_tzu>
i haven't installed sl but i do use the fortune program quite a bit
23:56
<DRoberts>
do u pipe the fortune into cowsay
23:56
and put it in the ssh login header?
23:56
random quotes each time you ssh in:)
23:57
just remember to use the censor flag if its in a work/classroom environment
23:57
unlike my buddy who tried to copy me and ended up having a cow swearing at his boss:p
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<razielle_tzu>
i do