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Good morning #ltsp
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is it possible to have one computer providing the files with tftp/dhcp and another for the ltsp server?
easy to setup?
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easy depends on the distro and how much you know about simple sysadmin tasks on linux ;) look up LDM_SERVER variable in ltsp docs
hmm where in the docs?
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you'll also have to get ssh keys of LDM_SERVER to client image, all distro has different way of doing that
where are the keys usually stored?
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i want dhcp/tftp running on a small router. nfs/ltsp on the big server
on the server in nfsroot image
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sorry that would be /path/to/nfsimage/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
yeah i got it but when nfs and ltsp are on the same host i woulnd need to move the ssh keys, would i?
or are they included in the initrd?
why? just append to that file with ssh keys of other LDM_SERVERS
yeah but only one host should be ldm server.
you can get the keys in correct format ssh-keyscan -t $encryption $anotherserverip >> /path/to/nfsimage/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
that is specified in lts.conf, clients will use the one specified there, having additional ssh keys shouldn't matter
when the router provides the kerne/initrd and a big server the nfs files... how does the client know that it has to talk to the big server (lts.conf is located on the big server...) am i missing something?
hmm, that wont work, in that case just router just to provide dhcp and point next-server to your ltsp server for tftp and ltsp image, or set up proxy dhcp using dnsmasq and alkisg1's script
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hmmm ok i think i will do it with only dhcp and the remaining on the big server ^^
thnx for your time :)
good luck :)
i have to order the router first :D
then why do you need a router? ltsp server can work as a router too
yeah but having the internetconnection independet of a bigger server is something i want ^^
i have trouble upgrading the ltsp client image distupgrade and xorg hangsinvoke-rc.d: initscript hal, action "restart" failed
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muh2000: I also needed to have a router as a dhcp server, and I came up with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
Should work on pretty much any distro...
alkisg: except i want the router also have tftp'ing for other stuff and it should be the dhcp because sometimes i want to shut the big server off.
You can keep the tftp there, and point the ltsp clients to the ltsp tftp server
=2 tftp servers
I think that's the easiest path to go by
Otherwise every time you updated the kernels, you'd have to upload them to the router...
yep that was my plan :)
(pointing the other next server..)
Why bother? What's the problem with having a second tftp server?
You may specify a different tftp server for ltsp clients, and a different one for other clients
that is what i am going to do.
Ah, ok. Well it's really easy, 1 = install dnsmasq, 2 = put an appropriate .conf file
just wanted to make sure whether other options were possible...
wouldnt it be easier to just edit the next-server option in the dhcp configß
Does it support different tftp servers based on the vendor identifier the clients send?
ldap conencted dhcpd ^^
Sure then that would be easier. Which router is that?!!!
i even dont need to restart the dhcp :D
well it isnt bought yet. but i will just move my server routing setup on the little box.
Ah ok it's pc based... :)
Just wondering, where would ldap be useful in a dhcp server?
ogra: there was a guy in here yesterday wanting to know about LTSP on a beagleboard
i saw the ping ... not much i can say ...
wedont have kernel packages for beagle
so he would have to roll kernel and initramfs himself
alkisg: easy and fast editing of settings for dhcp. that is why ldap
muh2000: ? how is it easier or faster than editing a file?
Anyway, I'll google that :)
you can use a browser like luma or myldapadmin to edit the values. click, click, click... instead of vi /etc/ladia/bla.conf /etc/init.d/bla restart
and when there is a config error you have to check etc to bring the dhcp back up.
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i am also thinking about moving all ldap stuff on the router... ~15mbytes... and doing a sync with the big server ^^
muh2000: there are also clickety click ways to edit dhcpd.conf...
There are GUIs for this task
alkisg: yeah but would require me to logon and xforward.....
Or use a web browser
matttttt, new updated image now has qtnx client, see changlog for more info. it will take some time before the package is built and show up on mirrors
and one gui would be luma and one browser would by myldapadmin ^^ dont know about others
or webmin... (I think)...
but the gui has to run on the same host?
It's web based, you can connect to it by any browser / os etc
webmin? webmin blows.
move over webmin, yast web is coming :) http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Web
hmmmm determining whether that is better... rofl.. :D
ogra, about the Intel GMA 500 that you told me that I would need to compile a kernel yesterday: thousands of greek students will be given a netbook in september, and it will probably be an atom-z based netbook with this card... Yeah, I know it sucks :( but do you think I could help them install ubuntu by compiling a custom kernel with dri2 and uploading it to a ppa? Does this sound feasible?
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i didnt say you need to compile a kernel :)
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i said you need to compile dri2
I _might_ have misunderstood :)
Ah, that sounds easier (I hope:))
check the packages, i dont know them but would expect they use dkms and compile everything at install time
Nice, I'll tell the person testing the netbook to try that
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ogra: ok, If he comes back, I know now
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k, i'm ready to work on sound problems again :)
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trying to find a job ?
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CaScAdE^Wacken, chatting from the festival ? :)
habe to go back...
just had to upload that vid :D
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habe = have
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bieb: Gadi was last seen in #ltsp 18 hours, 4 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Gadi> good luck!
?.. Do I need to run 32 bit linux on my server for x86 clients to work?
no but you need 32bit/x86 client builds
ltsp-build-client --arch i386
question about nbd. how does it work, from what i'm reading, it's uber dangerous
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? How do I install another Image for clients that are not 64 bit on a LTSP Server that is 64 bit?
Gadi: you about?
dark4og: (09:03:22 μμ) Appiah: ltsp-build-client --arch=i386
rjune_: kinda sorta
Gadi: do you remember who was asking about beagle board yesterday?
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his nick began with a "p"
peleus, I believe
yeah, that sounds right
(10:33:19 μμ) peleus: hello, have anybody tried ltsp on Beagleboards ? I would like to check if the chance is possible before I buy ;)
Logs, people :)
I don't have logs
thanks though alkisg
OK I was just joking
But there are logs in nubae's site
Gadi, alkisg oh thanks, that's good
is it quite straight forward ?
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how does ltsp use nbd?
Ahmuck: NBD provides the client image
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(in Ubuntu and several others, ltsp5+)
not like nfs?
No, it's RO
nbd is read only?
or ltsp image is read only?
After the image is compressed (squashfs) and sent to the client, it is effectively readonly. If you, as a sysadmin need to augment the image that is sent to booting clients, you can do so at any time. This is how localapps works.
Ahmuck: You can do so by editing the image directly, or chroot'ing to the image tree and then apt-get or yum'ing.
er, editing the image tree directly
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Blinny: actually i was looking at nbd for another project, to see if i could replace nfs
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LTSP Client, when logged in, I have only terminal after GDM installed in chroot
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yes, thats not supposed to work
Ahmuck, nbd exports a block device to the network thats a layer below the filesystem
Ahmuck, you can use nbd in readwrite mode indeed, the thing is that you export an image
Ahmuck, while nfs exports directories
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any gentoo users of ltsp around?
coldfusion: ssshhhhhhh...it's nap time here
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the ltsp-client init scripts wont run you see, and i'm wondering if they actually do anything useful
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sure they do (do something useful) - they set everything up for the client
why won't they run?
complaining about not being able to write to files in /etc because of the unionfs
the thing is - i can log in and run X manually, because the root is already on the server... but i'm thinking properly setup it might run faster?
not sure...unfortunately i don't have much experience w/unionfs
yeah. i might reconfigure from scratch and ditch the unionfs
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