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Channel log from 7 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<kuto>
is there any asterisk + ltsp howto links?
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<solv>
I have a strange problem with gdm, where the face browser is no longer showing login pictures. It happened when I added a new user, but I can't figure out whether it might be an ltsp related thing or not....I have tried switching login themes, and to standard and back to graphical...still no luck...any ideas?
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<Jenna>
hi, anyone tried building/running ltsp on IBM 360/390 ?
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<cliebow>
Jenna:i bet jammcq has..
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Good grief!
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hi all
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<tiagovaz>
hi
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<jvin248>
Any suggestions on where to start troubleshooting why dhcp3-server doesn't start on its own after bootup? I can manually start with "sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart" where it reports stop [fail], start [ok] and works correctly. Using Kubuntu 6.10 and ltsp.
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<sep>
jvin248, check the symlinks in the /etc/rc[runlevel].d dirs
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<bronze>
cliebow: that actually makes sense. Imagine how many thin clients a 390 could handle. like the old IBM thin-net terminals, it could probably number in the thousands.
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<tiagovaz>
jvin248, take a look at the log files
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i installed ltsp-4.2 in a kernel 2.6.x at other p4 with ethernet e100 drivers and client continues said Error! dhcpcd failed! kernel panic - not syncng :/ what i do ?
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<empiric>
hi all
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i have ubuntu +ltsp4.2
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all good
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i have a usb scanner
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i need to configure it on thinclient
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is it possible how
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any idea
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<cliebow_>
empiric:can you determine what it needs for drivrers?
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<jvin248>
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh> I saw kernel panics using older P1's mostly, might check memory (bad memory stick) in the client, and changing how client is connected to the server (direct with no hub/switch) in case of a timing problem or cable issue.
09:31
<sep> which of the rcX.d directories is the one I want? and what should I look for in there? the dhcp3 file looks like paths are ok.
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<jvin248>
<tiagovaz> Error I see after the dhcp header notifiers is "dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!", this does not show up after I issued the restart command (just shows dhcp header when stoped and started) then client notes. I'm working on the client to send this.
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<kyron>
ahoy all! (long time no see).. I have a nice LTSP setup with dual Opteron serving ~24 KDE workstations to students learning BASH scripting... Problem is they sometimes make while : loops and, worst, those loops write to a file.
09:42
so it does happen that the system is sluggish since all the resources are assigned to that oddball user. I am attempting to figure out sane /etc/security/limits.conf in such an environment and was wondering what impact a "time" limit has on a user process (is it killed?)
09:42
if anyone can point me to a more thorough documentation than the manpage I would greatly appreciate it!
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<Barry[out]>
hi all... im reading some docs about ltsp with a failover server... ... i found a term, i dontk now what is... what would be an ltsp in "single nic mode" ?
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<cliebow_>
--- maybe they mean there is only one nic in the server..
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some people like a lab type environment where much traffic is confined to a lab..and the server has a secnd nic to pass traffic to the outside world
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<empiric>
cliebow
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sorry
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<cliebow_>
ho!!!
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<empiric>
no i have no idea
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but atleast how i do change in lts.conf so that thinclient is aware of usb scanner
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<cliebow_>
n
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<cliebow_>
oops
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<empiric>
helo cliebow
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u there
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can u guide mw
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me
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<cliebow_>
empiric: i dont think i can help..if it were me id ssh in and watch logs and stuff
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lemme try sometyhing
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<empiric>
but see when i have to install usb printer i add an entry in lts.conf
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i have done nothing
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i have no idea how i add things in lts.conf for scanner
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i just plug it with thin clientsa theres no logs
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<cliebow_>
im kinda poking around..maybe ubergeeks will chime in
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<cliebow_>
udev rules would control device detection..
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<empiric>
so what should i do
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<cliebow_>
here is what i see..in rhel4 client logs are posted to /var/log/messages..
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<empiric>
hai i have ho scanjet 3400c
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<cliebow_>
empiric:plug it into a working linux box..see what gets loaded for drivers
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hey! i re-installed ltsp-4.2 now from mirror.. not my 1st time by iso and the kernel downloaded now was 2.6.16.1-ltsp-2 and i continues getting the same error dhcpcd failed... i copy the dhcpd.conf at /etc/ltsp and /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp and nothing not works.. what more have to do!!?? or test!!!
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<cliebow_>
so your kernel loads..initramfs is in place but fails goin back for second dhccp to determine root-patrh?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yes
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i'm tired to check all :S
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i don't know what more i do :\
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<cliebow_>
what card is on the client/
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
r8169
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Realtek 8111b
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but it's simliar because before the error said
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modprobe r8169
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insmod /lib/modules/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko
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and catch cool
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i tri too thinkin if that will be the card of server and othing either
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<cliebow_>
i am not positive that driver is in the initramfs
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
because client catc ok the insmod to /bla/bla/bla/again/e1000.ko
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if i put NIC = e1000 client insmod ok and said more. Intel Network e1000 etc
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but continues out dhcpcd failed
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<cliebow_>
r8169 in the client?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
both
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i test both
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<cliebow_>
so two cards in the client..both gig cards? whopper of a thin-client?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
no no
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client have only 1
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i just test both
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<cliebow_>
that client card is what you must pass an option for in dhcpd.conf..
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok.. so have kernel panic
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<cliebow_>
so the client has what for a crd?8169?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
what? i dont understend .. my english is poor
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<cliebow_>
so the client has what card?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i search about Realteck 8111B and google tell same or compatibile for r8169.ko drivers for kernel
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<cliebow_>
we need jammcq to tell us whether that driver is in the iniramfs..i dont have one to work with
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<Alexandre>
Hello friends!! Someone use ltsp 5.0
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?!?!?!?
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<cliebow_>
I use it a little..
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<Alexandre>
cliebow_ they work well?!?!?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cliebow_: did you think if ltsp 5 have that drivers?
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i downloaded but not have reference to HOW INSTALL
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<cliebow_>
lemme look..i should have the initramfs for ppc here
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Alexandre: ive only tested macintosh and a diskless workstations machine..so far fine
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<Alexandre>
cliebow_ I use ubuntu , don't go to the new version, because, when i try configure, i can't configure the thin clients!!!! There isn't lts.conf!!!!
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<cliebow_>
you can make one..it should though "just work"
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<Alexandre>
cliebow_ i try but, where is the rigth place to this file?!?!?!
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is not in the same place, cliebow_
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<bricode_>
Put the lts.conf in /etc
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<cliebow_>
/opt/ltsp/i386/etc
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<bricode_>
cliebow: Absolute path is good. My bad.
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<cliebow_>
heh..for once i was clear
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<Alexandre>
i create this, but, no link!!!
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<cliebow_>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: isee that ltsp5 at least for ppc clearly Does have r8169.ko
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in its initrams
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in its initramfs
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cool
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dis you know if 8139 exist for 4.2?
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did*
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<cliebow_>
i use a lot of rtl8139 in 4.2..should be fine
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there is wide variation in quality of cards..
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that use rtl8139 chip though
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i test now with other pc with that card
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<cliebow_>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh:excellent
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
later i tell you
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<cliebow_>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh:appreciate that..
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<sailli>
hi everyone
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<sailli>
is any one using .ltsp with virtulaztion gest/windows clients boot
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cliebow_: the other pc with r8139 when start stay stand by and not start
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have to test with 5 then
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<cliebow_>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh:i dont understand..a realtek 8139 should just work...no nic= references in dhcpd.conf generally
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<str4nd>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: your nick... change it!
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<Barry[out]>
hi all... im in trouble with my dhcp....
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clients do the request... but server returns...
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DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0f:b0:8f:70:48 via eth1: not responding (recovering)
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anybody have some idea?
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hmmm when i declare a host {} with his mac, works
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
str4nd: why?
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cliebow_: yea i want to test but the pc just stay .......... blocked
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things of boot bios options
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:|
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any way boos said all clientes are similars to r8169 .. so have to change the ltsp version to 5
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<cliebow_>
are you in ubuntu?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
no
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debian etch
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i'm ready to install the 5 ver
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but i don't know where is the doc
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have something like step-by-step
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cliebow_: what doc you see to install your ltsp 5?
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<cliebow_>
are you in ubuntu?
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i see
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cliebow_: no.. debian etch
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cliebow_: what doc you see to install your ltsp 5?
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<cliebow_>
i dont see any debianistas handy..i never tried in debian
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i untar the ltsp-tarball-20060211.tgz and have other structud of normal isos or mirrors
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well. more or less. where i untar that ltsp-tarball-20060211.tgz? .. make /opt = ltsp-4.2?
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<cliebow_>
in /opt you can call it whatever you like as long as you poin to it in dhcpd.conf and it is shared out in /etc/exports
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
in ls /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/2.6.1[7|8]-ltsp-1/kernel/driver/net/r8169.ko exist the file to can up the eth ..
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
where is the niclist then to can load initramfs in the 5 version?
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<cliebow_>
i have an initramfs open..hang a sec
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<cliebow_>
http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4606
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thta is from ppc version..but must be close
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see r8169.ko?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yes cliebow_: if i open my initram and insert that driver you think to can up?
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<cliebow_>
gawd..i dont think so..compiled for one kernel and used in another..anyone else?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cliebow_: just test
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ok forgete
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just tell me
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if i make cpio -i < initramfs
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to extract how can i makge again to join all again
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<cliebow_>
i am not the one to ask this..cpio -o..BU DONT QUOTE ME
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in 4.2 the initraamfs in 4.2 is rolled into the kernel..
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i see the initramfs of 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 and inside exist the r8169 and exist too the 10ec:8169 r8169 into niclist .. i don't know why not works :S
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well .. i download and recompile at server the driver for r8111b
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is r1000_v1.05
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i got r1000.ko
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if i insert that into initramfs need know that numbers have to
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ah forgot it
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<monteslu>
anyone here using the devonit thin clients?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cliebow_: check this -> http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg29412.html and later -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=477107
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cliebow_: did you see both links?
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<cliebow_>
Scott's word is law..can you shut onboard card off temporarily and use an 8139?
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<pscheie>
monteslu: I just got a 6020P recently
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<monteslu>
pscheie, how is it? I just an email from them that their 6040A is only 139 bucks
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<jvin248>
.. trying to get local devices/sound working, one guide said my 'hostname ("K2d") should equal 'echo $DISPLAY ("localhost:10.0"), should they be the same and where do I fix?
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<pscheie>
works like a champ
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<monteslu>
pscheie, sound too ?
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<pscheie>
yes, although I haven't tested a ton of sites. Flash works anyway
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sound-wise
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<monteslu>
awesome. thanks for the info
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<pscheie>
hmm, $139 for the 6040A?
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<empiric>
hi all
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any one works on ltsp4.2 with scanner on thinclent
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<pscheie>
is that quantity 1? Does it PXE-boot?
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<monteslu>
pscheie, yeah. But I don't know if it will PXE boot
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<pscheie>
so, can you use it as an LTSP client then?
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<monteslu>
i sent them an email asking just that
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<pscheie>
their website says 'X clients' for its software; wonder what that means
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<monteslu>
you can use it as an x client apparently, but that wouldn't cover sound
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hehe jinx
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<pscheie>
ah
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<monteslu>
i think it loads its own(probably linux) os, and does an x query
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it would be cheaper if it didn't include the flash ram, but just did PXE ilke the 6020P
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but 139 is nuts
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<pscheie>
I paid $149 for the 6020P
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<monteslu>
not bad
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<pscheie>
so, $10 for sound I guess
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if quantity > 30, they'll drop the price to $130
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<monteslu>
the 6040A has a sound card, but slower cpu
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but the 400mhz chip is fanless
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<pscheie>
yes, the 6030P does make a bit of sound from the fan, but I don't think it's really noticeable
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the clicking from the keyboard is louder
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<monteslu>
I've already bought 30 of jammcq's thin clients, but I need another 30 or so
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@130 it would definetly be doable
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<empiric>
any one works on scanner
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<pscheie>
yeah, I'd rather support Jim's company, but the price difference is tough to bridge
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<monteslu>
he should resell for devonit :)
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<tech1>
join #xen
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hi again (i forgot n time) he.. have to recompile the kernel of ltsp because my card client not support for any ltsp version so.. have to make a new kernel with ltsp_kernel_kit.. have this problem now... what have to do then?
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Kernel source directory [/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-3-686]:
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Location of LTSP tree [/opt/ltsp-4.2]:
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Location of TFTP directory [/tftpboot/lts]:
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The module directory /lib/modules/2.6.18 is missing!
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Have you forgotten to do a 'make modules_install' ?
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Configuration failed.
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uname -a
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Linux ltsp-srv 2.6.18-3-686
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debian etch
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<dan__t>
Kernel panic - not syncing: kernel/timer.c:168: spin_lock(include/linux/timer.h:f7eaa150) already locked by kernel/timer.c/168
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:/
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<jvin248>
hey everyone, what's the best URL source for troubleshooting (K)ubuntu 6.10 LTSP sound and local devices?
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<cliebow>
jvin248:right here probably..but it has been pretty quiet of laye
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<agliodbs>
hey, who's going to SCALE?
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<jammcq>
hey kids
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<agliodbs>
jammcq: who's doing SCALE?
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<jammcq>
umm, dunno
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<jammcq>
are you down there?
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<agliodbs>
I'm going
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we'll have a booth
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<jammcq>
cool. Probably Tim Frichtel will be there
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<agliodbs>
yeah, I noticed you have a booth
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<jammcq>
he's done several of the past SCALE events, having a booth for LTSP
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<agliodbs>
anyone I owe dinner?
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<jammcq>
umm
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nobody from the core team will be there
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but Tim's a good guy
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<Solv>
my gdm login screens are only showing the default 'nobody.png' faces in the face browser, but up until now they have been working fine. I googled around and saw that the latest version of gdm (2.8) disables the face browser when mounted over nfs. I have gdm 2.6, but I'm guessing this is the problem...have you come across this problem before? Is there a workaround?
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<doc_>
hello
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<doc_>
hi
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i'm trying to get a diskless station working
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simply a diskless... reading nfs-remote-boot and so
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but don't get success when mount /proc :/
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i get this message:
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mount: permission denied
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any suggestion please ?
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<cliebow>
doc_:nothing comes to mind
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this is 4.2
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<doc_>
:)
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<cliebow>
?
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so the kernel loads ok
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doc_:this ubuntu ltsp5?
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<doc_>
nope
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i found the problem...
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thanks :)
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<cliebow>
no prob..ususally i say somethinf wring then the big guns jump in
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lord i sound like the idiot policeman in allo allo
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reggae night tonight!!
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<PMantis>
jammcq, Hey Jim
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...and while I'm here, Google isn't helping me. Anyone know how to start ssh at bootup for a port forward? Perhaps in init?
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Whe I use the -n switch, it doens't give a connection... but I don't need a shell either.
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<rjune>
you want to setup an ssh port forward?
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would stunnel work?
19:28* PMantis nods
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<PMantis>
Hmmmm
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<rjune>
You might try writing a script to do it, then put the script in /etc/inittab
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<PMantis>
I don't know much about stunnel... ipcop doesn't have stunnel on it, I don't think.
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<rjune>
oh, sorry
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<PMantis>
I could perhaps connect to another machine for stunnel, but should I should limit the open ports
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<rjune>
stunnel == ssl tunnel
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I don't know how to forward ports with ssh.
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I usually use openvpn
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<PMantis>
Yeah, I unsderstand stunnel in concept, but can it be considered as secure as ssh?
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Oh?
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Wow, I would've expected you to be an old pro with *all* of ssh. :)
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<PMantis>
But that's with *my* view, based on the order which *I* learned things.
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But anyways... with stunnel, can you limit the connection to only a specific "user"... perhaps only to the party with a key, like with ssh rsa keys?
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<PMantis>
rjune, Well, I'm just putting it into a screen session for now.
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<rjune>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4468884.stm
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<Solv>
my gdm login screens are only showing the default 'nobody.png' faces in the face browser, but up until now they have been working fine. I googled around and saw that the latest version of gdm (2.8) disables the face browser when mounted over nfs. I have gdm 2.6, but I'm guessing this is the problem...have you come across this problem before? Is there a workaround?
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<mathesis>
Unable to open /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386/etc/lts.conf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ltspcfg line 3377, <STDIN> line 33.
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i have erro
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Unable to open /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386/etc/lts.conf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ltspcfg line 3377, <STDIN> line 33.
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<mathesis>
se vagrantc
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: yo trabajo en otra proyectos ahora ...
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<mathesis>
ok
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tftpboot acces violation
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<mathesis>
i have TFTP error 2 (ACCCES violation)
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<rjune>
sounds like perms to me
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maybe selinux?
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<mathesis>
vagrantc: estas muy ocupado
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<BarryAllen>
somebody alive there?