IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 21 December 2015   (all times are UTC)

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04:23
<xdrazen>
hi
04:24
well i am pretty "bored" now. Sometimes this LTSP seems a bit hopeless for me
04:26
i really do not care if if would be a traditional ltsp, or a pnp-ltsp or even remote desktop... but right now i am with no more clues
04:28
i have been making some trys, what happens with ipxe is that with 96mb of ram or more in those p pro pcs only gets freezed.
04:32
right now, i wonder if ubuntu 8.04 could make the work
04:33
i know that it is not more supported... but what more could i do?
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04:34
<xdrazen>
i will try to "install" the 8.04 alternate on those pcs and see what happens
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04:36
<alkisg>
!precise-i386
04:36
<ltsp`>
precise-i386: Ubuntu 12.04 compressed btrfs chroot to boot really old clients (non-pae, <80MB RAM): http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.img. Screenshot: http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.png
04:36
<alkisg>
xdrazen: see the screenshot above ^
04:36
Only 37MB RAM used at LDM, with epoptes open
04:37
Did you ask at #ipxe about if it supports pentium pro or not?
04:37
<xdrazen>
yes, it does, it is very very strange
04:38
i am seing the screenshot
04:38
it is 70mb ocupied right?
04:38
<alkisg>
No, 70 MB RAM on the client, 37156 used
04:38
<xdrazen>
**55 of 70
04:38
<alkisg>
55 is with the caching
04:39
That is not the correct line to see
04:39
It's the next one, 37
04:39
Boot with tinycorelinux and compare
04:39
<xdrazen>
yap, i see it now
04:39
<alkisg>
For me, tinycorelinux always uses more RAM than LTSP
04:40
And if one switches to xorg, it uses more than 128, way too much
04:40
(it uses xvesa by default, in which we can't even type greek)
04:40
<xdrazen>
xvesa has issue with some of my monitors
04:41
<alkisg>
That screenshot has xorg, not xvesa
04:41
Do you have a local linux on a pentium pro?
04:41
E.g. puppy?
04:41
<xdrazen>
then, that is a client with xorg
04:42
yes, right now i do
04:42
<alkisg>
You can avoid using ipxe then
04:42
<xdrazen>
i will turn it on and boot
04:42
<alkisg>
You can put the LTSP vmlinuz and initrd.img locally
04:42
And boot them with grub from the puppy menu
04:43
The command line to use is something like: kernel vmlinuz ro init=/sbin/init-ltsp root=/dev/nbd0 nbdroot=<server-ip>:/opt/ltsp/i386
04:44
initrd initrd.img
04:44
Then it loads the kernel from the local disk, and finally it connects to the LTSP server, without using iPXE
04:45
To avoid misunderstandings, the screenshot is plain 12.04.1, the one I was telling you to install since 2 weeks
04:45
<xdrazen>
i did it
04:45
as i told you, that is my last try
04:45
<alkisg>
But you never got to boot it, you always reformatted in the same day :)
04:45
<xdrazen>
**i mean, the last thing that i have done
04:46
<alkisg>
You have it installed now?
04:46
<xdrazen>
^^ really sorry it is kinda a bad thing of me
04:46
yes, i got it
04:46
as i said you
04:46
what happens is that when i try to use it
04:46
i have a kernel panic
04:47
<alkisg>
as I said, that was because you had the pae kernel
04:47
Your clients do not have pae
04:47
<xdrazen>
the same error that i got in the VM client when i asigned less than 70mb
04:47
yes i understand a bit about that
04:47
<alkisg>
Try to install the "linux-image-generic" package
04:47
This will give you vmlinuz without pae
04:48
Or, download the image that I said in the link ^, it's 640MB and it has the non-pae kernel
04:48
And it can boot with 70MB
04:48
<xdrazen>
what is this one?
04:48
http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.img
04:48
<alkisg>
Yes
04:48
<xdrazen>
then, i could download http://ts.sch.gr/repo/livecd/images/precise-i386.img
04:48
<alkisg>
You put that to /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img and then run sudo ltsp-update-kernels
04:48
Yes
04:48
<xdrazen>
burn it in a cd and try to boot those p pro right?
04:48
<alkisg>
No
04:48
It's an LTSP disk, not a CD
04:49
<xdrazen>
that is a "chroot" image right?
04:49
<alkisg>
You put it to your 12.04.1 server
04:49
Yes
04:50
<xdrazen>
i remember a bit. Well, then i should install a ltsp 12.04.1 pnp? or any other?
04:50
<alkisg>
You said you have 12.04.1 installed now
04:50
<xdrazen>
really thanks dude
04:50
<alkisg>
Just use it
04:51
<xdrazen>
i have the 12.04.1 server with pnp ltsp.
04:51
<alkisg>
Right, then do the 2 instructions I said
04:51
download precise-i386.img, put it to /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img, then run sudo ltsp-update-kernels
04:51
<xdrazen>
kk i will be back with results. Thanks a lot alkisg, Really thank a lot for all your cooperation patient and help
04:52
<alkisg>
Let's hope you can boot them this time ;0
04:52
<xdrazen>
^^ really i like the linux comunity :D!
04:52
cya will be back soon
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<alkisg>
!kvm
05:59
<ltsp`>
kvm: Virtual thin client: kvm -vga-vmware -ctrl-grab -no-shutdown -net nic,model=virtio -net user,tftp=/var/lib/tftpboot,bootfile=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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08:57
<alkisg>
!image
08:57
<ltsp`>
I do not know about 'image', but I do know about these similar topics: 'dailyimage', 'ltsp-update-image'
08:57
<alkisg>
!picture
08:57
<ltsp`>
Error: "picture" is not a valid command.
08:57
<alkisg>
!screenshot
08:57
<ltsp`>
Error: "screenshot" is not a valid command.
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08:58
<alkisg>
!learn screenshot as to show us a screenshot, upload it to e.g. http://postimg.org and then paste the link here, e.g. http://postimg.org/image/8usr22x29/
08:58
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
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09:31
<alkisg>
!noaccel
09:31
<ltsp`>
noaccel: Some graphics cards, e.g. SiS [1039:6325] on 14.04, require this setting in lts.conf: X_OPTION_01="\"NoAccel\""
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10:20
<vanitas>
alkisg: hi
10:20
<alkisg>
Hi vanitas, let's talk in the other channel
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