IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 30 October 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<Guaraldo>
!jammcq
07:52
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: Error: "jammcq" is not a valid command.
07:52
<Guaraldo>
!last jammcq
07:52
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message)
07:52
<Guaraldo>
!who jammcq
07:52
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: Error: "who" is not a valid command.
07:53
<Guaraldo>
!whereis jammcw
07:53
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: Error: "whereis" is not a valid command.
07:53
<Guaraldo>
!see jammcq
07:53
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: Error: "see" is not a valid command.
07:53
<Guaraldo>
!seen jammcq
07:53
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 13 hours, 19 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <jammcq> hey chuckie
07:54
<Guaraldo>
Oh!... He must be arriveing
07:59
!ltsp5
07:59
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: "ltsp5" is ltsp5 is The next version of LTSP, and the future of Thin Client computing on GNU/Linux. http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5
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<Guaraldo>
/can hear the flyes flying...
08:15
ops...
08:15* Guaraldo can hear the flyes flying...
08:15
<Guaraldo>
So silent...
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<sbalneav>
Boo
08:45
<Gadi>
!s
08:45
<ltspbot`>
Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:45
<ogra>
Gadi, !
08:45
<Gadi>
ogra!
08:45
!o
08:45
<sbalneav>
Morning Gadi!
08:45
<ltspbot`>
Gadi: Error: "o" is not a valid command.
08:45
<ogra>
when do you come over ?
08:45
<Gadi>
heh
08:45
Thursday, God willing
08:45
<Guaraldo>
!s
08:45
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:45
<Gadi>
save me a seat
08:46
oh, and a bed
08:46
:)
08:46
<sbalneav>
Morning Guaraldo
08:46
<ogra>
we'll share our beds with you :)
08:46
<Guaraldo>
It was so silent here before you arrive, sbalneav!!!
08:46
<Gadi>
whoa
08:46
<Guaraldo>
Good to have you here!
08:46
<sbalneav>
Likewise
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
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<Stephen>
hi
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09:16
<nabbschool>
hi
09:17
motd
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<nabbschool>
I'm having problems with ltsp and getting flash to play sound, can anybody point me to the right information to solve my issue? thanks
09:19
<sbalneav>
Which version of LTSP?
09:19
<nabbschool>
5.0
09:19
i'm using edubuntu 7.10 and still no sound, its very annoying
09:25
thanks anyway
09:28
<Gadi>
nabbschool: you need to install libflashsupport
09:29
<sutula>
Gadi: Server or in the client chroot?
09:29
<Gadi>
server
09:29
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuFAQ
09:29* sutula is interested in the answer also
09:30* Gadi is unsure if it is in the ubuntu repo
09:30
<Gadi>
but that link has a place to grab it
09:30
<nabbschool>
excuse my primitivity but how do I do this using edubuntu? can i use the gui or do i need to use the command line?
09:31
<Gadi>
nabbschool: if it is apackage in the ubuntu repository, you can do it through the GUI (Synaptic package manager)
09:31
look for libflashsupport
09:31
<nabbschool>
thankyou. is this all i need then?
09:31
<Gadi>
if not, you can do it by grabbing the software package (deb) itself
09:31
by opening a terminal (as per the link I posted) and type:
09:32
wget http://pulseaudio.vdbonline.net/libflashsupport/libflashsupport_1.0~2219-1_i386.deb ; sudo dpkg -i libflashsupport_1.0~2219-1_i386.deb
09:32
(those are two commands separated by the semicolon)
09:32
you can type each one on its own line
09:32
<nabbschool>
so all this does is installs the libflashsupport, right? then it just works?
09:33
<Gadi>
nabbschool: yup
09:33
you may need to login/logout
09:33
or reboot the thin client
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<nabbschool>
well that sounds to easy to be true! ha
09:33
<Gadi>
or maybe just restart firefox
09:33
I dont remember :)
09:33
<nabbschool>
thanks for your help Gadi!
09:33
<Gadi>
np
09:33
enjoy
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10:13* joebaker laments "I can't upgrade to Gutsy because freenx is broke and unsupported."
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<Gadi>
joebaker: if you only use it for admin, grab the commercial one
10:16
<joebaker>
That's a thought for our company server.
10:17
But our LUG gives out freenx desktop sessions of Ubuntu. Freenx broke last night when I upgraded to Gutsy.
10:17
<Gadi>
hey - is there a limit to the number of characters in the password field on the new ldm?
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<rjune_>
Gadi!
10:18
<Gadi>
juney!
10:18
<rjune_>
how are ya mate?
10:18
<Gadi>
baruch hashem ;)
10:19
how are you?
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<cliebow_>
joebaker: cant u use nomachines?
10:21
i have it running on edgy and feisty..and apparently will go on gutsy
10:24
i hate gnome..
10:25
<rjune_>
what is baruch hashem?
10:25
cliebow_: use KDE
10:25
ubuntu even has a nifty gui for working with users and supposedly kiosktool, but I've not used that
10:25
<cliebow_>
or xfce is nice these days
10:26
<joebaker>
cliebow_: We want the same sort of central management and resource access as LTSP provides only from remote locations. I don't see how virtualized systems would do that.
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<cliebow_>
so you are saying fundamemtal differences in architecture freenx vs nimachine
10:28
?
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<cliebow_>
in gutsy anything take the place of Xaccess and #* #any clienbt can get login
10:45
<sbalneav>
No, that's all the same.
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<MasterOne>
Hi
10:47
Is there any more info about configuring LDM available online?
10:47
<cliebow_>
netstat -anp|grep ":177" shows gdm is listening...and it eorked last time i used the little bastud
10:48
Gawd it takes twenty minutes for the server laptop to come up in gnome...
10:49
<MasterOne>
I was wondering, if it is possible to install and start LDM on a normal workstation (so not a thin client) to log into the LTSP server
10:49
<rjune_>
probably
10:49
cliebow_: is DNS b0rked
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<cliebow_>
ahh good point...
10:50
<rjune_>
Gadi: what is baruch hashem?
10:53
<sbalneav>
MasterOne: There's complete documentation in the edubuntu-handbook
10:53
<MasterOne>
Let's say you have a laptop with latest ubuntu installed, and you want to use that machine to log into your LTSP server, how would you do that? As you already have GDM installed your access to your local environment, can you additionally install LDM to access your LTSP server, and if yes, how would you start LDM?
10:54
<jammcq>
just use SSH
10:54
<sbalneav>
Yes
10:54
<MasterOne>
sbalneav: there is nothing specific to LDM in the edubuntu-handbook, I already checked
10:54
ah, i c
10:55
<sbalneav>
MasterOne: There most certainly is, as I wrote it :)
10:57
I haven't done anything opposite testing ldm in a full desktop, so your mileage may vary.
10:57
<MasterOne>
sbalneav: I must be blind, can you provide a link to that specific page in the handbook about LDM?
10:57
<sbalneav>
it's in the edubuntu-docs package. Are you running edubuntu?
10:58
<MasterOne>
ah, you mean the docs in edubuntu, I was only searching online
10:58
how would I exactly establish a nested X session from my LTSP server using ssh on my ubuntu desktop?
10:59
<sbalneav>
Using xnest
10:59
<jammcq>
Xnest
10:59
<sbalneav>
I don't have a command line off the top of my head.
11:01
<cliebow_>
Scottie:where would Xaccess be??find doesnt show it..
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<sbalneav>
cliebow_: I have no idea what your problem is. What EXACTLY are you trying to solve?
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<cliebow_>
oh i have gray x using xsmcp..
11:08
netstat says udp6 31280 0 :::177 :::* 879/gdm
11:08
so it seems running..
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wireshark shows an xdmcp request followed by xdmcp willing packet
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<cyberorg>
on suse it's /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
11:15
<cliebow_>
yeah used to be on redhat as well...find shows nothing
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<jammcq>
cliebow_: gdm doesn't use Xaccess
11:15
that's an XDM thing
11:15
and sometimes kdm thing
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<cliebow_>
i never has so much trouble with something that worked fine three days ago...8~(
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<cliebow_>
in gdm.conf i just uncommented Enable-true and port = 177
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<ogra1>
cliebow_, whats wrong ?
11:38
<sbalneav>
udp6?
11:38
<ogra1>
sbalneav, where are you guys ?
11:38
<sbalneav>
In the big room
11:38
<ogra1>
ah
11:38
<sbalneav>
Where we started this morning
11:38* ogra1 heads over
11:39
<rjune_>
?
11:39
<sbalneav>
cliebow_: Don't edit gdm.conf, edit the gdm-custom.conf
11:39
<rjune_>
ubuntu dev?
11:39
<sbalneav>
Yeah, we're at the conf
11:41
<ogra1>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/137276 ?
11:41
<sbalneav>
cliebow_: Well, ogra just informed me, apparently xdmcp is broken currently in gutsy
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<ogra1>
well its broken upstream in gdm 2.20.0 ... fixed in 2.20.1 though, which is still waiting for enough testing in the gutsy-proposed archive
11:48
<cliebow_>
ogra1: i had it sort of working with the debianish gdm
11:48
<ogra1>
you installed gdm from debian ??
11:48
<cliebow_>
but the laptop server is so cusse dslow i cant get anything done
11:49
no i did not..but after googling i picked plain with face browser and got a login screen
11:49
<ogra1>
sounds like the same bug
11:50
<cliebow_>
yes..
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<ogra1>
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gdm/gdm_2.20.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
11:52
try that one
11:56
<cliebow_>
ok cool
12:01
heh dependencies..
12:01
<ogra1>
bah
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<ogra1>
then you need to enable gutsy-proposed (disable it immediately after installing gdm, its a test archive where broken stuff might exist)
12:02
<cliebow_>
ok..will do
12:03
multiverse?
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<ogra1>
gutsy-proposed
12:06* vagrantc chuckles seeing the hurd-i386 upload of ltsp
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<vagrantc>
should probably disable the buildd's for non-linux arches
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<scrapbunny>
I have set up an edubuntu 7.10 server with ltsp 5. the server is working fine but when I try to log in on the thin client I get "This workstation isn't authorized to connect to server." Can anyone help me?
12:16
<cliebow_>
sc
12:16
scrapbunny, can you run ltsp-update sshkeys then ltsp-update-image?
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<scrapbunny>
cliebow- sorry i'm new to all this :) can you tell me what to try in terminal to run those?
12:20
<sbalneav>
sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
12:21
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: how goes the shindig?
12:21
<sbalneav>
Not bad, we've done some good speccing so far.
12:22
Looks like we're going to start contributing bigtime to Sabayon/Pessulus upstream.
12:22
I've already got the localapps spec in, did you see the mail?
12:22
<vagrantc>
no
12:22
<scrapbunny>
thanks i will try that and check back. Just want to say how awesome linux people are. I am an elementary computer teacher and everyone on irc and forums are so helpful
12:22
<vagrantc>
or did i
12:23
sbalneav: no, didn't see the spec
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<sbalneav>
vagrantc: I posted to ltsp-discuss
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<sbalneav>
Have a looksee in there.
12:24
scrapbunny: We try :)
12:24* vagrantc has managed to not subscribe to ltsp-discuss ...
12:24* vagrantc looks for archives
12:25
<sbalneav>
oh, hold on
12:25
I'll paste the link
12:25
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ltsp/+spec/ltsp-localapps
12:25
<vagrantc>
what's edge ?
12:25
<sbalneav>
I've already got xrexecd roughly implemented.
12:26
Oh, um, dunno. I'm a launchpad tester, so maybe it's the testy stuff
12:26
remove it if necessary
12:26
bzr get http://swan.he.net/~sbalneav/bzr/xrexecd
12:27
<vagrantc>
protein folding, eh?
12:35
sbalneav: sounds pretty slick.
12:36
sbalneav: xrexecd is the launcher thingy?
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<scrapbunny>
ok i can log in :) but now i have no internet:-(
12:56
<cliebow_>
2 nics? see what route -n gives you..
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<sbalneav>
vagrantc: Yeppers
13:00
<slidesinger>
hu sbalneav
13:00
hullo sbalneav
13:01
<sbalneav>
Hello slidesinger
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<slidesinger>
Been a long time. How are things?
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<scrapbunny>
my dns settings for eth1 were replaced with the dns settings for eth0. when i try to add a dns server in won't save
13:06
nevermind, i'm a dork and didn't hit the enter key after typing the address. got my internet again
13:07
<cliebow_>
heh..join the club...
13:10
<scrapbunny>
now to get my ltsp.conf file set up so my gx110 will work
13:10
<cliebow_>
lts.conf
13:13
<dtrask_>
scrapbunny: Hah! Speaking of hitting the wrong keys....meet cliebow ;-)
13:13
scrapbunny: we threatened to buy him a new keyboard once ;-)
13:14
<scrapbunny>
hey feel free to buy me 32 keyboards and mice, the ones in my lab are 7 years old
13:15
<dtrask_>
cliebow_: do you have a monitor and keyboard/mouse? I have a few extra machines...might be able to bring one to you at BTS....for your own use...not school
13:15
full machine...not thin-client
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<cliebow_>
i have piles of crappola here...i dont think i have any place to use em personlaly
13:18
my house is bursting with stuff..but thanks for the offer..
13:20
<vagrantc>
scrapbunny: where are you located?
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<scrapbunny>
i'm in pittsburg, ca. the east bay area
13:40
<vagrantc>
scrapbunny: ah, i work with a non-profit in portland, oregon that grants out hardware as one of it's projects, if you need a few boxes of mice or keyboards: http://freegeek.org/grants.php
13:40
<scrapbunny>
our school has no money so I am going to use gx110 with a donated dell server for an edubuntu lab
13:40
<cliebow_>
good!!
13:40
<vagrantc>
scrapbunny: though there's probably other more local organizations, like ACCRC that might make more sense
13:40
er ... http://freegeek.org/grants
13:41
<scrapbunny>
very cool thanks! there are local places but they get hit up often.
13:41
<vagrantc>
scrapbunny: we're actually using gx-somethings
13:42
scrapbunny: main part would be shipping ... freegeek doesn't deal with shipping
13:42
strangely, i had to downgrade the bios on some of the gx's in order to get them to PXE boot ...
13:43
<scrapbunny>
i will check it out and see what we can swing. I spent our "huge" budget of $4000 on a network reading program teachers wanted and 512 memory sticks for our gx150 and gx240 machines
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<scrapbunny>
vagrant- i got the 110 to boot and i get the edubuntu boot screen but then the screen goes blank. i am messing with the lstp.conf file now, setting the color to 16 bit, trying the find the right xserver setting
13:50
<sbalneav>
scrapbunny: Sorry, what did you call the file?
13:52
<cliebow_>
sbalneav:kdm works just fine...
13:55
<scrapbunny>
the file is ltsp.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i36
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<ogra1>
scrapbunny, it needs to be lts.conf
13:56
not ltsp.conf
13:56* vagrantc sighs
13:56
<ogra1>
vagrantc, patches accepted ;)
13:56
<vagrantc>
ogra1: well, the patch is simple- it's the breaking historical namespace that's the problem.
13:56
i brought that up years ago ...
13:57
i guess we could implement patches that check for the older version if the newer version isn't found ...
13:58
<cliebow_>
and trask made funny of my typing when I corrected lts.conf 8~)
13:58
<ogra1>
vagrantc, what breaks historical namespace ?
13:58* ogra1 doesnt understand
13:58
<ogra1>
i thought you where sighing because its lts.conf
13:58
<scrapbunny>
ogra-for ltsp 5 I thought it has to be ltsp.conf?
13:58
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: You can take that one up with jammcq :)
13:59
<ogra1>
i dot think it takes more than 5 lines to make it accept ltsp.conf :)
13:59
scrapbunny, it was never ltsp.conf
13:59
<vagrantc>
yeah, but supporting two configuration files is kind of ugly ...
13:59
sbalneav: it's just one of those things i think i'll live with.
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<ogra1>
right, but makes the transition easier
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<ogra1>
would be nice if the old path could go away at some point
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<vagrantc>
i suppose we could consider a transition period where both are supported, and eventually drop the old one ...
14:00
<ogra1>
snap :)
14:01
<vagrantc>
issueing ugly warning messages when the old location is used
14:01
<ogra1>
well, have you seen what we ship in gutsy ?
14:01
<vagrantc>
ogra1: not really, no
14:01
<scrapbunny>
no wonder I was having problems, i have been googling fixes based on a typo
14:01
<ogra1>
!pastebot
14:01
<ltspbot`>
ogra1: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
14:02
<scrapbunny>
do i have the location right?
14:02
<ltsppbot>
"ogra" pasted "gutsy's /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf" (20 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/335
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<vagrantc>
gutsy's all weird.
14:02
<ogra1>
:P
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<vagrantc>
ogra1: 5.0.36 ?
14:03
<ogra1>
heh
14:03
well
14:03
<vagrantc>
that's when it was introduced, i'm guessing
14:03* cliebow_ cliebow kicks jammcq for omitting a p
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<ogra1>
getltscfg explodes if it finds a totally empty file
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<vagrantc>
yes
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<ogra1>
it could also just say LTSP_IS_COOL=True
14:04
<vagrantc>
heh
14:04
<ogra1>
or BLAH=boing :)
14:04* vagrantc imagines the bug report
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<vagrantc>
"i commented out LTSP_IS_COOL and it broke!"
14:05
<ogra1>
its just a placeholder
14:05
heh
14:05
we'll need to fix getltscfg ... it was just to late in the cycle to do that
14:05
<vagrantc>
"my opinions of the software should not affect the software's functionality"
14:06
<sbalneav>
Next release we'll fix getltsconf so it doesn't fail on an empty file.
14:06
It's a bug
14:06
<vagrantc>
sure
14:06
well, off to freegeek
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<scrapbunny>
ok, fixed the name, do i need to restart the server before i try to boot the 110?
14:09
<ogra1>
nope
14:09
110 ?
14:11
<cliebow_>
ogra: any way to update ssh-keys on the powerpc side without disturbing the i386 side?
14:11
all on same server of course
14:12
<scrapbunny>
sorry pxe boot the gx110 i am using as a client
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<ogra1>
cliebow_, sorry, the keys get copied to all chroots that are found in $basedir (/opt/ltsp/)
14:16
that could probabl need a switch
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<cliebow_>
that would be ok wouldnt it if i did update image afterwards..
14:17
?
14:18
<ogra1>
right
14:18
<scrapbunny>
ok think i still have something wrong. where should my lts.conf file be?
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<ogra1>
/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
14:20* ogra1 goes for a smoke ...
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<cliebow_>
ogra1:that fixed er..
14:28* jammcq notes that getltscfg is one of the (if not the only) remaining pieces of the original LTSP
14:29
<cliebow_>
sbalneav:ldm greeter is Awesome looking
14:30
never realized til i put it side by side with the original in /opt/ltsp/powerpc
14:30
which was pretty cool then 8~)
14:32
<scrapbunny>
ok question, if all my thin clients are gx110 can i set the default settings to the gx110 settings without effecting the server?
14:33
<cliebow_>
sure
14:34
<scrapbunny>
and i shouldn't have to restart the server after changing the lts.conf right?
14:35
i ask because none of the changes I have tried seem to make i difference on the 110 machine
14:35
<cliebow_>
no ..lts.conf is loaded fresh to the client
14:35
evry boot..you hould watch the p[ackets wityh wwireshark..it is awesome
14:35
<scrapbunny>
guess my xserver setting is still wrong then
14:36
<cliebow_>
what are ywe using?
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<scrapbunny>
i810 and i tried 3 X-VIDEORAM=, 8192 4096 and 2048
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<cliebow_>
vesa?
14:39
<ogra1>
scrapbunny, X_COLOR_DEPTH=24
14:39
<scrapbunny>
i know i have the file in the right place and name because the dell gx240 i played with won't boot now
14:39
<cliebow_>
ahh hahh\
14:40
<ogra1>
thats bug 149006
14:40* ogra1 pokes ltspbot`
14:40
<cliebow_>
ogra update keys fixed the powerpc side as well as i386 8~)
14:41
<ogra1>
yay
14:41
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/149006
14:41
<cliebow_>
so next is an intel mac..
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<warren>
ogra1, any LTSP-like sessions scheduled for the week?
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<sbalneav>
There should be some tomorrow, hopefully
16:22
<ogra1>
warren, we did a lot on the last weekend during fosscamp
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<sbalneav>
See:
16:22
<ogra1>
but there are stil some, yes
16:22
<warren>
hmm
16:22
we're *real* close to finalizing Fedora 8 right now
16:23
it depends on when we finish I'll be able to join you
16:23
<sbalneav>
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ltsp/+spec/ltsp-localapps
16:23
<warren>
definitely this weekend in Maine
16:23
<sbalneav>
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ltsp/+spec/ltsp-improvedcdsprinting
16:23
<K_O-Gnom>
ive got a funny video look (its in english http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0 )
16:24
<scrapbunny>
hello again anyone know the xserver settings for nvidia video cards on gx 110?
16:27
<sbalneav>
XSERVER=nv
16:28
in your lts.conf file
16:29
<scrapbunny>
do i need a X_VIDEORAM setting?
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<sbalneav>
Don't know. I'm not familiar with nVidia cards
16:32
<scrapbunny>
i have tried all the settings thinking I am dealing with the integrated intel i810 so I thought i would try the nvidia settings since entering the service tag on dell.com gives that as a video option
16:33
sbalneav- know any other possiblities for settings for the intel 810?
16:33
<Guaraldo>
!ltsp-rdp
16:33
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: Error: "ltsp-rdp" is not a valid command.
16:33
<Guaraldo>
!ltsp
16:33
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: "ltsp" is LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
16:34
<Guaraldo>
!ltspfs
16:34
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: Error: "ltspfs" is not a valid command.
16:34
<Guaraldo>
!localdev
16:34
<ltspbot`>
Guaraldo: "localdev" is (#1) Information regarding using pluggable devices and cdroms with LTSP can be found at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev, or (#2) for ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices, or (#3) for debian-edu: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/LocalDeviceLtspfs, or (#4) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev
16:34
<sbalneav>
scrapbunny: You're running gutsy?
16:35
<scrapbunny>
edubuntu 7.10
16:35
<sbalneav>
Might want to try X_COLOR_DEPTH=24 or X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
16:36
<scrapbunny>
i picked edubuntu because i thought it would be easier to set up the thin clients, guess i was wrong :(
16:36
tried both color depths
16:36
<sbalneav>
It generally is
16:36
But if you've got odd clients, then there's always some fooling around required.
16:37
So what, exactly, is the problem. I've yet to hear exactly what the symptom is?
16:37
Are they booting? Do you see the splash screen?
16:37
<Guaraldo>
Gadi...
16:37
<sbalneav>
Have you tried XSERVER=vesa?
16:38
<Guaraldo>
Where is that page you send me with the text of LocalDev-RDP setup???
16:38
<scrapbunny>
they pxe boot and i get the edubuntu screen but then instead of a log in screen i get a black screen with blinking curser line
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<sbalneav>
ok, have you tried vesa?
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<scrapbunny>
no, do i need to try X_VIDEORAM=?
16:41
<sbalneav>
No, not with vesa
16:48
<scrapbunny>
vesa with color at 16 and color at 24 didn't work either
16:49
<Guaraldo>
See you tomorow...
16:49* Guaraldo will sleep for a while...
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<scrapbunny>
maybe the other stuff i have for screens and local devices is interfering
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<scrapbunny>
WOOOHOOO I took out the screen options and I have a log in screen!!!
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<mhterres>
hello guys
17:14
I'm trying to use SCREEN_02 in lts.conf - LTSP5 from Ubuntu 7.10
17:14
but when I put this line in the conf, the X server does not work
17:14
any ideas ?
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<vagrantc>
mhterres: yes, you have to then define SCREEN_07=ldm
17:17
<mhterres>
hmm
17:17
I'll try
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<vagrantc>
i.e. both SCREEN_02 and SCREEN-07
17:18
er, SCREEN_07
17:18
<mhterres>
so I could put SCREEN_01 = shell
17:18
and SCREEN_07 = ldm
17:18
<vagrantc>
SCREEN_01 is usually taken by a getty
17:18
i would avoid 01
17:18
<mhterres>
hmm, o
17:18
k
17:20
<vagrantc>
the default, if NO SCREEN_NN is defined, is SCREEN_07=ldm
17:20
<mhterres>
ok, but if I define one screen, I must define SCREEN_07
17:20
is that correct ?
17:20
<vagrantc>
well, you could put it on whatever
17:21
but to be consistant, probably stick with 07
17:21
<mhterres>
ok, the thin client is booting
17:21
let me see
17:21* vagrantc wonders if we should reconsider the rationale of that logic
17:22
<vagrantc>
i.e. maybe only check if SCREEN_07 is defined ...
17:22
<mhterres>
great
17:22
I think it is working
17:22
let me test
17:23
no
17:23
let me try again
17:27
no way
17:27
the other SCREENs is not working
17:27
and that is my lts.conf
17:27
<vagrantc>
?
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<mhterres>
Anybody can indicate a paste URL to post my lts.conf ?
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<vagrantc>
!pastebot
17:29
<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
17:29
<mhterres>
thkans
17:29
I did't remember
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<ltsppbot>
"mhterres" pasted "My /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf" (28 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/336
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<mhterres>
http://pastebot.ltsp.org/336
17:30
yes
17:30
nice
17:30
<vagrantc>
you don't have to tell use the URL :)
17:31
<mhterres>
great
17:31
with this config SCREEN02, 03 and 04 does not work
17:32
<vagrantc>
mhterres: try 08 - 12
17:32
<mhterres>
ok
17:32
one moment
17:33
<vagrantc>
i thought ubuntu freed up 02-06 ... there might be something on those higher numbers that's already taken
17:33
<mhterres>
the client is rebooting
17:33
let's see the results
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<mhterres>
same problem :-(
17:37
strange
17:37
we don't have this problems in 4.2
17:37
but I know that it is very different now
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<jamiej>
Any on help. I have installed ltsp on gutsy. When I try and login using ldm the screen just goes black and ldm just restarts. I have tried ltsp-update-sshkeys.
17:41
<vagrantc>
mhterres: hmmm... works for me on debian ...
17:41
mhterres: which is very similar ...
17:41
<mhterres>
yes, I know
17:41
<jamiej>
Also can anyone help with how to make my clients auto login please. Thanks your help would be appreciated.
17:43
<vagrantc>
jamiej: are you able to ssh to the server ?
17:44
<jamiej>
I am running a internet cafe and have updated to gutsy and now have this problem. When I updated at home it works a ok. and at the shop but then it just messed up.
17:44
<vagrantc>
mhterres: one major difference is that the initramfs downloads the lts.conf using tftp ... maybe that's failing somehow?
17:44
<jamiej>
I Will try?
17:48
<mhterres>
If I remove lts.conf CTRL+ALT+F1 works fine
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<mhterres>
:-)
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<vagrantc>
mhterres: well, that's certainly a bug :)
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<mhterres>
maybe
18:08
thanks
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<jamiej>
I was on earlier my problem was ldm just went to a blank screen and restarted. I have now checked ldms log on the client and it reports that no xauth data anyone help please.
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<jamiej>
Please does any one know is it possible to make ldm auto login now?
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22:40
<joebaker>
Ron Paul is on Jay Leno this hour in US Central Time.
22:40
<mistik1>
and?
22:40
<joebaker>
He's a presidential candidate here in the US - voted against the Patriot act.
22:40* jammcq is waiting to see who's on letterman
22:41
<joebaker>
He's the Republican Candidate with the most contributions from Google employees.
22:41
He's the IT guy's candidate.
22:41
<mistik1>
hehe
22:42
certainly not mine
22:42
<joebaker>
The Other IT Guy's candidate :)
22:44
The only candidate who has not taken the oath of the Council of Foreign Relations.
22:48
I was on the cover of the Boston Globe news paper cheering and holding my laser printed Ron Paul poster. http://dcresearch.com/ronpaul
23:32
<rjune_>
joebaker: so ron paul is one of what, two congresscritters that voted against the patriot act?
23:46
<joebaker>
He did vote against the patriot act rjune_
23:46
I don't like wiretapping.
23:46
without judicial review.
23:47
They could build an automated web application for acquiring fisa approval to fast track approval.
23:49
infowars.com has a movie that explains the "New World Order" / Council on Foreign Relations / Rockefeller connections. The movie is called Endgame.
23:50
<rjune_>
stick with the patriot act, it's more convincing
23:50
<joebaker>
The author, Alex Jones said he wants people to copy the movie and distribute it far and wide. So if you can get it via bittorrent you can.
23:50
rjune_ agreed.