hm, i think i'm going to monopolize somebody's time trying to figure out what in the world these random debian commands do
really wish i could've made it to the meetup
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Hey, everyone! I've another newbie question...
I use ltsp 4.2 and 2.6.16 kernel(2.6.17 doesnot work with my NIC). rc. usb has "for module in usb-uhci usb-ohci ehci-hcd uhci-hcd ohci-hcd...." strings but anyway no usb keyboard or mouse available after terminal startup.
I tried to use MODULE_01 option for loadin modules usb-uhci or uhci-hcd etc. but got an error "Failed to load uhci-hcd module"
Did I forget smth. to make usb work on ltsp terminal?
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hey, is my question so stupid? :(
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hello, any idea why LTSP includes XFS but not XFSTT support?
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I need help! I checked BIOS, USB controller and keyboard/mouse support are enabled. Modules are not loading, USB doesnot work, exact kernel version is 22.214.171.124, I downloaded it from http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.2/
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before i buy some ...does any body have any experince with the HP T5700 thin clients? how well do they work with LTSP..
the specs say they are PXE boot which is a start....
how do i do to star knopix in 800x600?
i found it :)
i have seen that the knopix have memtest
how do i run it
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need heelp please
i tipe the commands in the console(knoppix) and it do nothing
grip -i net
even ifconfig dont work
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pani_alex: make sure you are root
enter "whoami" to find out if you are
what is whoami and how do i enter it?
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must i get start the operate sistem? or in the boot?
how do i creatge the boot disk
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i'am trying to create the flppy disk to boot the client and
it apears to stay before finish
i maked, cat /path/to/eb-5.2.6-eepro100.zdsk /dev/fd0
is thise ok?
you need to type: cat /path/to/eb-5.2.6-eepro100.zdsk > /dev/fd0
you forgot the >
ok, i'll try, but this is from the web page
pani_alex: enter it in the running knoppix system in a shell
pani_alex: from which webpage ?
sorry, i have saved the page and dont remember where is the link
if muy keyboard don't have >, how do i type it?
now i get it
i have writed /media/fd0 instead of /dev/fd0
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it don't work
say invalid system disk
how can i write the > if my keyboard dont have that key
to try making the boot disk again
cat /media/..... /dev/fd0
and it stard writing on the floppy but stay again before finishing
pani_alex: use ALT+062 (means hold ALT key and type 062) this should give you a >
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presing alt an putting a numbre it puts (arg: 62) and if i pres a key next it insert 62 times that key
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still having prolems
can't create thise boot disk
please help me
pani_alex: That sounds like you are using vi to edit files.
i whant to creathe the flppy disk to start the client
I only see your last 5 lines.
I was disconnected earlier.
Are you using etherboot?
i'll tell you
i'm confused, etherboot is via the network card or diskete
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Etherboot is a program you get from rom-o-matic.net which is specific to the model of Network Card you have.
i don't have a network card that suports pxe so i will do it by floppy
OK, that sounds good. That's what I usually do.
i wrote in a linux knoppix
Have you found the PCI data for the Network card? lspci -v
cat /path/bootImage... /dev/fd0
i have downloaded a image for my onboard lan sis900
what is lspci -v?
List pci information
It tells you the vendor ID and some other id information which can further identify the chipset used on your card.
So did you make the floppy?
the list is to long and i can't see all
i try but it stops until finish
and get a error
Pipe the output through less like this lspci -v | less
I'm not really sure if "the list" is the output of an lspci command
Or if "the list" referrs to the output of booting off the floppy.
i have search again and my onboard net card supose to suport boot
i put it to boot by nerwork, is thise ok?
Yes, if your bios has a setting to boot from the network...
you can do that.
Expecially if the NIC is integrated onto the motherboard. This is called PXE booting.
It simplifies allot.
Although the DHCP configurations are somewhat different than I am accustomed to supporting.
i try but i apears to not foud the server and continue booting other devices
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what should i do now
I think alot of the folks who normally participate in this chat channel are off at a conference in California at an Ubuntu Developers Conference.
What's next in the documentation?
Have you setup NFS, DHCP, TFTP, ....
dont know, i have installed the k12ltsp, it supose to have all enable and runing
the only think can be breating the file for the client conf
I usually install ltsp onto another distribution like Mandriva or Ubuntu.
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No, you should just be able to boot the client now and it should work.
You'd create the entry in the file if you wanted some special configurations.
how do i see if the dhcp is runnig
Which k12ltsp version are you using.
ps ax | grep dhcpd
i shoult write that?
sure, paste it into a terminal window as root
to start dhcp you could run.....
note the space before restart
restart or start or stop or maybe even "status" are valid commands
WARNING... if your network has a DHCP server, you should not run DHCPd on your linux box. The services interfere with each other.
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i have writed that ps ax | grep....
and get thise
1860 ? Ss 0:00
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joebaker: are you still there?
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my ltsp server is all runing
i stard my client and i dont find the server
Are you the network administrator where you are?
i get RPL-ROM-FFC:1..2..3..4..5 and not found
Are you authorized to start DHCP. Good did you execute.... /etc/init.d/dhcpd start
it is still runing
i cheked by ltspadmin in the terminal window
all is running ok
Have you run ... ltspadmin then "Configure LTSP" then "S Show Configured Services".
Do you have a hub or network switch that both machines (server and client are plugged into)
i have a swich and yes all
the server and the client are conectet to it
the server have the firewall enabled to
Perhaps the cabling isn't good enough? I've seen clients that could slowly pass traffic over bad cables yet, dhcp is UDP traffic so retransmissions are not as common.
The server's firewall software... Have you opened ports for DHCP, NFS, TFTP, portmap, etc... Maybe try running the server with the firewall off.
Is K12LTSP5 based on Fedora Core 6?
i think is fedora5
selinux enabled?that def causes probs
i dont know if this can be a isue but i'm running the ltsp server in a virtual machine
I don't think the Virtual machine would be that much of an issue.
But you might have to turn off the firewall on the host machine.
The host machine running VMWARE.
i have disabled my windows pc firewall and the server and still not detecting the server
You see what exactly on the client machine as it boots...
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Do you have another DHCP server running on your netwok pani_alex? Maybe the client is receiving the DHCP response from another machine first before yours.
nop as i know
sorry i was out
if i have a dhcp cerver istaled my pc should get ip automaticali and i don't happen
i mean in windows
Hi! Can anyone tell me how to get access to the Clients IDE harddrive? I have Ltsp 4.2 up and running on a Mandriva 2005LE server, and SCREEN_02 = shell but I can't see hdc1 on the client
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can be that my onboard net card is dead?
How's it going?
goodest...any goddies to report from mtv?
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someone did an awesome job packaging nx for dapper!!!!
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cliebow: Check out planet.ubuntu.com. I've got a blog now! :)
I'm, like, somebody!
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some one to help me
i have trouble creating a etherboot floppy
before finish i gives me an error
i have been all the day trying thise
there is another way to copy a image to the floppy
i mean not with cat
finaly, i created sucesfully the floppy disk, but the client says no sistem disk or disk error
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i am trying to boot a PC using PXE , this PC is only connected to a linux router which is connected to a server running DHCP and TFTP, do i need a DHCP relay on the linux router to boot the PXE box ?
GooE: No. Isn't dhcp relay some mechanism, where you handle dhcp calls between different networks?
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Could a similar method to this http://www.geocities.com/cucnews/localhdswap.html be used to mount a local HD on the client?
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cuestion, if i download a image of room o matic and meke a disk from it
it is the boot disk?
becouse my client says: no sistem disk, and dont boot frlom floppy
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Can anyone tell me how to get access to the Clients IDE harddrive? I have Ltsp 4.2 up and running on a Mandriva 2005LE server, and SCREEN_02 = shell but I can't see or mount hdc1 on the client
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Sephyr: I don't think we have any of the udev magic in place to auto-start ide harddrives
In the next version which we're finalizing now (ltsp5), you should be able to see a hard drive, however, I, for one, never understand why people want to see hard drives on diskless thin clients :)
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sbalneav: Thanks for reply. The purpose of LTSP at all is because I need access to a CF-card mounted as a IDE-harddrive in a diskless pc I am not allowed to open :(
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I might give http://drbl.sourceforge.net/ a try instead :)
if i make i etherboot floppy, it is a booteable disk'
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pani_alex: Yes, it should be.
Sephyr: Good luck with it.
but i put the disk in the client and it saly no sistem disk
What etherboot image did you use, and how did you write it to the floppy?
thanks, just have to reinstall Mandriva now, seems like i f***ed something on the install :p
pani_alex: Which etherboot image did you use, and how did you write it to the floppy?
and how did you write it to the floppy
what was the command line?
cat /source.. /dev/fd0
probably not the best.
can you tell me other way=
Try dd if=eb-5.4.2-sis900.zdsk of=/dev/fd0 bs=8192
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jaja, it works
now will probe booting
problem, the resolution seens to be to heigth
and the monitor dont support it
how do i do to put this client in 800x600
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What version of ltsp are you using?
If so, X_MODE_0 = 800x600 should work for that workstation's entry.
where i put it
i know nothing of this
is my first time booting one
The wiki has information on this, as well as the documentation on the home page.
Time to start reading! :)
ill probe it tomorow
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I have an "K12ltsp" server installed
I know that is not extrictly an ltsp... but share basis with
my problem is that when I try to boot from a client using an vt-6105 card
from a diskette, It remains saying 0200 AX:0212 BX:2400 CX:0001 DX:0100
one an another time... and no booting
knitoperu: what is a vt-6105? What brand?
does anyone knows what's happening???
knitoperu: Are you using the Universal Boot Floppy image?
is a network card enl832-TX-VA ( I'm almost sure that is an Encore)
and it use tu be running
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I make an image in "etherboot" 2 or 3 years ago
I will try with that Universal Boot Floppy
I supose taht I can download it from ltsp page?
no it's in K12LTSP....just outside the bootrom images directory
I will find it, thankyou
do this: cat Universal_Boot_Floppy.dsk > /dev/fd0 to get it onto the floppy disk
hope that helps :-)
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new question: How can I be sure that my server etherboot boot system is working?
maybe, only pxe is working
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How can I run Skype on a ltsp thin client? The server is running edubuntu. The clients play normal mp3's just fine, but I can't find a way to get skype audio workin...
ctkroeker: you cannot at this time - LTSP currently does not support bidirectional audio by default
this will hopefully change in the next release
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Not even in the 5.0 beta version?
now, that doesnt mean you cant hack it up
Just to make sure, do any other VoIP apps work?
but, atm, LTSP uses "esd" as its sound transport mechanism, and it only supports audio playback
in the next release, we will move to pulseaudio, which will add bidirectional supportt
how would you propose "I hack it up" on the current version?
there is a wiki on the web somewhere for getting it to use pulseaudio
or, as an alternative, you can look into running Skype as a local app on the client
which would actually be the best way of doing it, if you plan on having lots of clients using VOIP at the same time
you got a manual somewhere?
I looked into the pulseaudio and it doesn't look so promissing
heh - if I had a manual, we wouldn't need a manual, because it would be in there :)
are you using LTSP 4.2 or edubuntu's ltsp-server?
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just found http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Edgy/HOWTO:_PulseAudio
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and what is not promising about it?
Well, I just found it now
give it a whirl and if not look into installing skype as a local app
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u think it''l work ok? I have a GB LAN connection and 4-6 clients
k, thanks for the help
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vagrantc: vagrantc was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 2 days, 4 hours, 36 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <vagrantc> Arsenick-tc2l: and which version of ltsp?
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how can I change the Refresh rate in the thin clients?
Psycho: you ca specify an entire modeline..with x_MODE_0 i believe
cliebow: i have some old monitors here.. they are getting only 640x480... even if i configure X_MODE_0=800x600
ok.. i got 800x600.. but only if i use X_COLOR_DEPTH = 8
how can i do that!?! no one deserves 256 colors!!
Psycho: can you get a modeline for those monitors by using them with knoppix and loking at successful xorg.conf?
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cliebow: i'm donwloading kurimin.. it is based on knoppix.. does it create the modline or just shows the horizontal and vertical refresh rate?
cliebow, whats the meaning of the "EL" in the name of K12LTSP.EL ?
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Psych0: ought to be a full modeline there somewhere
cliebow, what about my doubt?
g333k_work: use the source, you will find faith to conquer your doubt...
|16:58||* bronze notes that "E:" stands for "Enterprise Level" in RedHat products|
cliebow: i already have slackware installed on this TC.. they are working with 800x600 but with 57Hz
g33k: must be enterprise linux...egomaniacal lumbago..sing like thatometh
something like that
cliebow, but are the differences between the EL and not EL versions?
are there any*
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g33k: i am not sure..i went ubuntu a year ago for that resaon
Psych0: you sure you have enough video memory for 800x600@16bpp ? i think about 1-2MB i needed.
the difference is mostly you get older versions with enterprise
vagrantc: the clients have 16mb onboard video cards...
i'm just burning knoppix...
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sbalneav: did y'all talk about how to handle "upstream" for ltsp 5 this past week?
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Hello, I have installed K12LTSP 4.2.3EL, I have configured all the files and get the PXE booting, but after the booting I receive this message: "Failed to mount the root directory via NFS!" how can I solve it?
how does /etc/ecportds look?
cliebow, nevermind, solved!
cliebow, I have running ltspadmin... because the xdmcp service appears to be disabled, I piuck the 7th option but it tells me that xdmcp is already configured, how can I do to make it ask me the questions again?
so you get hray screen and x?
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cliebow, yes I got it
cliebow, I got gdm
lemme get a url
oh all set then..
cliebow, Now I have created users, but I cant log in with any of my users
look at your logs
cliebow, So what's new in K12LTSP?
i dont know..eric fifnt say much when i saw him last week
rjune:holding your own i hope
sound with alsa is a big subjecy lately
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jammcq spoke of phone apps as the wave of the future for ltsp...amd muskow of course
cliebow: working on ity
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youtlittUbuntu le one thriving..of course
your little one thriving of course//
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Hi to all
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