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Channel log from 25 April 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<dberkholz>
johnny: around?
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<generic>
hi how i add usb printer on thin client in ltsp5 in kubuntu
02:35
[ws224]
02:35
PRINTER_0_TYPE =U
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PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usb/lp0
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PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
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PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY= Y
02:35
or some thing else
02:38
do i need to add entry in /etc/hosts
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<generic>
helo
02:53
any idea how i add usb printer for thinclient
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<zeltron>
hi. Is there anybody in there ?
03:05
trying to install ltsp5 on debian etch and I got some problems
03:06
<generic>
ya what prb zeltron
03:07
<zeltron>
Ok. When the client tries to boot, I receive a message : error: not a valid image
03:08
I already installed ltsp4 and it works fine. I used the backports (alioth) to get ltsp5 in debian etch
03:09
and i used the ltsp-build-client command with option --extra-mirrors
03:09
<generic>
why use backport
03:09
<zeltron>
because ltsp5 is not included into debian etch
03:09
(only ltsp 4.2)
03:11
<generic>
hm
03:12
<zeltron>
When I try to get vmlinuz, the client responds : not a valid image
03:13
When I try to get nbi.img, it seems to work fine (lots of dots), but the client reboots
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<daduke>
zeltron: here are my install notes for LTSP5 on etch: https://nic.phys.ethz.ch/readme/233
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<zeltron>
Ogra : I take a look. Thanks
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<johnny>
dberkholz, sup?
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06:49
<daya>
is there is any way to change the position of login banner , in client
06:55
<Q-FUNK>
ogra: did you mean something like this? http://incoming.debian.org/xserver-xorg-video-geode_2.8.0+git20080424-1_i386.changes
06:56* johnny thinks Q-FUNK broke it
06:56
<Q-FUNK>
hm?
06:57* johnny is just glad he doesn't have to worry about weird drivers
06:57
<ogra>
Q-FUNK, no, dont do a debdiff, just attach the patch to the bug and note that i will need an autogen run to get applied
06:57
<johnny>
ogra, hey :)
06:57
<ogra>
so bryce gets a clean readable patch with your changes
06:57
<johnny>
g'mornin
06:57
<ogra>
hey
06:57
<Q-FUNK>
ogra: the patch is already there
06:58* johnny seeded torrents all day yesterday
06:58
<Q-FUNK>
ogra: the end result of running autotools on the patched tarball is the above URL
06:59* johnny lets all the junkies get hardy first
06:59
<johnny>
i'm saving my hardy upgrades for saturday
07:01
<ogra>
Q-FUNK, i'm not intrested in reading tons of autotools crap in a patch and i doubt bryce is, talk to him, he's the one to approve, i'm just telling how i would perfer a patch to easily review and judge it
07:02
(i personally perfer if users attach plain patches to bugs and not debdiffs though, i might be different to others)
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<jammcq>
g'morning folks
07:08
<ogra>
hey jammcq
07:09
<Q-FUNK>
ogra: the - patch -is - already - there.
07:09
<ogra>
Q-FUNK, well, i cant say much more
07:09
<Q-FUNK>
it's been attached to the bug for ages.
07:09
<ogra>
i dont have anything to decide about X SRUs
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<daya>
ogra, any idea to change login prompt's position in ltsp client,
07:22
ogra, is it /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/ltsp/greeter-gtkrc
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<ogra>
daya, no thats GTK stuff, you would need to patch the greeter code
07:24
all positions are computed on the fly relative to screensize
07:24
<daya>
ogra, which , could you please tell me the location
07:24
<ogra>
various
07:24
<daya>
ogra, isn't it fixed as gdm themes
07:24
<ogra>
no
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<ogra>
spheight = (height / 4) - (lh / 2); for example computes the height of the logo relative to the height of the screen
07:25
and adds an empty spacer above
07:26
for the X axist thats a lot trickier since you would have to change all vboxes in the code to match
07:26
*axis
07:27
<tarzeau>
can i have ldm load balancing ?
07:27
<ogra>
tarzeau, you can have a server list to select from
07:27
<tarzeau>
ogra: really? how?
07:27
<ogra>
and i think fgiraldeau has a patched ldm/ldminfod version that also show the load of the servers in that list
07:28
<tarzeau>
do you know rwho/ruptime ?
07:28
how does fgiraldeau do that?
07:28
<ogra>
sounds scary with the r in front
07:28
:)
07:28
like rtime
07:28* daduke agrees
07:28
<tarzeau>
you mean rdate?
07:28
i know rtype but rtime?
07:28
<ogra>
or rsh
07:28
<daya>
ogra, I am in confused , which file r u referring to patch , :D
07:28
<ogra>
tarzeau, i made that up ?
07:29
<tarzeau>
is the patch of fgiraldeau fast or slow?
07:29
<ogra>
daya, gtkgreet/greeter.c in the ldm source
07:29
<tarzeau>
at run-time
07:29
<ogra>
tarzeau, it collects additional info from the server if ldminfod is queried
07:29
it requires to have ldminfod runnng on every machine you want to offer
07:30
<tarzeau>
cool, and our ldm has that all?
07:30
<ogra>
tarzeau, for the server list, have a look at the screen.d script of ldm (i never used that feature myself)
07:31
<daduke>
ogra: we have reason to ask since our LTSP server turned itself off tonight 0:40
07:31
<ogra>
tarzeau, look for a comment with "Server scalability"
07:31
daduke, any trace in the logs ? are all fans running etc ?
07:32
there is a nice failover setup many edubuntu users use
07:32
https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDHCPload-balancingFailover
07:32
<daduke>
ogra: it's back online, but was completely dead. We started exchanging PSUs and HDs and stuff, in the end it just came back to live.. hm.
07:32
<ogra>
but indeed that requires a spare fallback machine
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<ogra>
did you run memtest on it ?
07:33
<daduke>
ogra: the HW itself is fine, it must've been power related. Just turned off, no trace in the logs
07:35
<tarzeau>
http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ldminfod&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any
07:36
ldminfod comes with ldsp-server
07:36
<ogra>
right
07:36
<tarzeau>
# grep ldminfo /etc/inetd.conf
07:36
9571 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/ldminfod
07:36
<ogra>
telnet localhost 9571
07:36
:)
07:36
<tarzeau>
telnet plimpy 9571
07:37
how is rating calculated?
07:37
i think it's retarded because it doesn't check how much cpus there are...
07:37
<ogra>
look at ldminfod, its a py script
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<ogra>
tarzeau, http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/multiple-server-setup.html
07:43
<daduke>
ogra: thanks, that sounds wonderful.
07:44
<ogra>
i never tried that myself ... no guarantee it works
07:45
<daduke>
ogra: we'll make it work.
07:45
<ogra>
:)
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<tarzeau>
daduke: http://sid.ethz.ch/visquare@mac.com.txt
07:46
<ogra>
i know sbalneav tested it back in gutsy beginnings when he wrote that page
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but i dont know if anyone every tested it later on
07:46
<tarzeau>
http://www.gisdevelopment.net/application/environment/overview/envo0003a.htm
07:47
<daduke>
ogra: this also answers yesterday's question from empiric, he wanted to do HA, but this setup does both, HA and no idle HW
07:47
<ogra>
not really
07:47
the user still has to select from the server list
07:47
HA is automatic
07:47
<tarzeau>
i can make the user has to select from list, in russia the user is selected by the server
07:48
<daduke>
ogra: if I read this ubuntu doc correctly, /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/get_hosts should enable us to do it automatically, doesn't it?
07:48
<ogra>
well, it randomizes
07:49
someone has to come up with a real god get_hosts for full load balancing with HA
07:49
<daduke>
ogra: fine too. if we put the 'are you alive' detection into get_hosts, we're all set
07:50
ogra: I'm not talking about process takeover here, just 100% availability of at least one LTSP server
07:50
<ogra>
ah, well, for that it will suffice
07:50
get_hosts can just be a pinger for that
07:51
<daduke>
ogra: exactly.
07:51
<daya>
ogra, can't we still localise ldm, or there is some option,
07:52
<ogra>
daya, its just in the process of being localized
07:52
debian sid already has it ...
07:52
<daya>
ogra, ye ok fine, can I use only ldm from sid in lenny
07:52
<ogra>
it saldy was to late for ubuntu hardy, but ldm is in a separate source package now, so i hope i can provide a backport
07:52
<daduke>
ogra: localized ldm? didn't even notice... lemme check
07:52
<ogra>
daya, nope
07:53
daya, the dependencies are different
07:53
and the versions
07:53
daduke, i'm not sure vagrant hast pushed it to experimental first though, to wait for more translations
07:53
*hasnt
07:54
<daduke>
ogra: I see. how would I see? how does it determine the locale?
07:54
<ogra>
from the system
07:54
the locale of the chroot is set during ltsp-build-client
07:54
<daduke>
ogra: great! it's been en before, it's en now ;)
07:54
<ogra>
defaulting to the server locale
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<ogra>
no idea where you set it in debian nowadays
07:55
in ubuntu it just moved from /etc/environment to /etc/default/locale
07:56
<daduke>
ogra: back to HA: how could one possibly achieve process takeover? would require a mirror system...
07:57
<daya>
ogra, do I have to twist spheight = (height / 4) - (lh / 2);
07:57
only, these value or some ,
07:57
<ogra>
daya, changing that will move everything up or down
07:58
depending on the change
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<ogra>
for left/right movement you need to rewrite the vbox/hbox model i fear
07:59
<daya>
ogra, oh, then there is no any alternative to change t
07:59
<ogra>
no, not yet at least
07:59
<daya>
the login prompt position
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<ogra>
that would require massive redesign of the greeter
07:59
<daya>
ogra, ok fine hope to be in future
08:00
<ogra>
not easy
08:00
<daya>
:)
08:00
<ogra>
the vbox/hbox model was chosen because it doesnt take extra ressources
08:01
all implementations that would offer floating positioning would raise the requirements of ldm massively (gnomecanvas, cairo etc)
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<ogra>
i'm not sure that something to desire
08:02
<johnny>
really?
08:02
<ogra>
the pythin greeter had two probs that caused slowness and huge ram usage ... one was python, the other was gnomecanvas
08:03
i'm not sure how much a cairo port would eat, but surely more than the plain gtk we have now
08:03
<johnny>
oh.. it's not cairo at all
08:03
that's why i was confused
08:03
<ogra>
well, as much cairo as gtk uses in the backend
08:03
(for standard render functions)
08:04
but no cairo canvas
08:07
all graphics handling in ldm is plain gdk ... layout and UI elements are plain gtk
08:08
<johnny>
let's go back to gtk1
08:08
lol
08:08
jk
08:09
<ogra>
nah, lets see that gtk2 doesnt suck the ram out of your system with a loud slurping sound
08:09
<johnny>
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm
08:10
<ogra>
gtk and gnome development has become way to bling oriented imho ... low end systems need more attention
08:11
<johnny>
hmm.. i haven't had access to such machines in awhile
08:12
<Q-FUNK>
ssssssssssssssssllllllllllllllllllllllllrp
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<generic>
guys i want to set a usb deskjet printer on my thin clint from ltsp5 any idea
08:37
?
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<generic>
i did [00:0F:1F:A2:32:D5]
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PRINTER_0_TYPE =U
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PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usblp0
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PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
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PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY= Y
08:38
<jamiej__>
I am trying to install ltsp-server-standalone on hardy and get this Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
08:38
Using '/usr/share/ldm/themes/edubuntu' to provide 'ldm-theme'.
08:38
Reading package lists... Done
08:38
Building dependency tree
08:38
Reading state information... Done
08:38
E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-artwork-usplash
08:38
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally. I even tryed --exclude xubuntu-artwork-usplash and this did not work. Does anyone know what is going on or fixed this please.
08:53
<generic>
guys
08:53
how i attached printer on thin client
08:54
<johnny>
i've never done it before personally
08:54
so i can't answer
08:54
i just have mine on the server
08:54
and clients can print fine from that
08:54
when i let em
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<jamiej__>
I am trying to install ltsp-server-standalone on hardy and get this Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
09:23
Using '/usr/share/ldm/themes/edubuntu' to provide 'ldm-theme'.
09:23
Reading package lists... Done
09:23
Building dependency tree
09:23
Reading state information... Done
09:23
E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-artwork-usplash
09:23
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally. I even tryed --exclude xubuntu-artwork-usplash and this did not work. Does anyone know what is going on or fixed this please.
09:24
<johnny>
haven't updated to hardy yet
09:24
so.. no idea
09:24
very few have
09:24
<Nubae>
do you have a custom ldm theme ?
09:25
<laga>
jamiej__: i suspect you need to add universe to the list of repos
09:25
<jamiej__>
Ok i Think it already their.
09:25
<vagrantc>
jamiej__: this happened when you installed ltsp-server-standalone, or when you ran ltsp-build-client ??
09:27
<ogra>
vagrantc, xubuntu moved completely to universe
09:27
jamiej__, you need the option: --components main,restricted,universe
09:27
for ltsp-build-client
09:27
<vagrantc>
ogra: oh, wow.
09:28* ogra just invalidated a bug for that a minute ago
09:28
<johnny>
xubuntu moved to unierse?
09:28
why?
09:28
<ogra>
because they can get more contributions that way and are more free in their app choice
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09:30* vagrantc feels so wishy-washy with architectures
09:30
<ogra>
did you get it sorted ?
09:30
<vagrantc>
otavio: i'm contemplating turning all the other architectures back on, because i can't figure out what i need to do to clean up all this mess.
09:31
<ogra>
probably get it removed completely oce and upload a fixed sourcepackage that only tries to build on arches you want ?
09:31
<vagrantc>
ogra: i still don't even know what all i have to do to get it sorted, no.
09:32
<ogra>
make ltsp-client and -core Architecture: i386 amd64 powerpc
09:32
that should really be all you need to do
09:32
<vagrantc>
ogra: i think i have to: contact each buildd team and get them to add their package to the list of packages to not build, contact ftpmasters to get it removed from unstable and testing, and debian-release maybe to get it removed from testing
09:33
<ogra>
seems really like the debian build system is lacking there
09:33
<vagrantc>
but it isn't documented anywhere.
09:34
<ogra>
and is a horrible process
09:34
<vagrantc>
indeed.
09:35
the easy thing for me is to re-enable all the architectures, and get my hands on all the architectures that tend to be hold-ups. right now, that's powerpc and alpha ...
09:35
which is annoying and ridiculous.
09:35
<ogra>
doest debian have an irc channel for buildd people like #soyuz for ubuntu ?
09:35
<vagrantc>
nobody in debian-devel mentioned it when i asked.
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<ogra>
you could ctch it trough debian/rules nad make the build no-op ... but thats very hackish
09:37
*catch
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<generic>
ogra
09:38
i want to run usb printer on thin client
09:38
what i do
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<vagrantc>
ogra: well, the build already fails. it's treated as an RC bug.
09:39
<generic>
even printer is attached to my thin client i can send print from ltsp server but from thinclient i can not
09:39
<ogra>
whatever RC might mean at this state of your release :P
09:39
<vagrantc>
ogra: i'll reply to the submitters of the two bugs and mark them help, and see what comes of that.
09:40
ogra: tagging the ldm i18n bug help got us a translateable ldm within days :)
09:41
<ogra>
yeah, saw that
09:41
i would love to get it into 8.04.1
09:41
but not sure thats possible
09:43
generic, set PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usblp0 in lts.conf ... then set up the printer in your pinter dialog in the desktop to point to jectdirect printer on port 9100 on the client IP address
09:43
<rjune_>
mornig
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<generic>
ogra
09:44
[00:0F:1F:A2:32:D5]
09:44
PRINTER_0_TYPE =U
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PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usblp0
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PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
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PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY= Y
09:44
i did this
09:44
<ogra>
to much stuff
09:44
(and please dont paste for more than three lines here)
09:44
<generic>
ok sorry
09:44
is that ok
09:44
<ogra>
PRINTER_0_DEVICE =/dev/usblp0 is enough
09:44
drop the rest
09:44
<generic>
ok
09:45
<ogra>
it sets up a jetdircet forwarder on port 9100
09:45
so just point your printer setup to the client's IP at 9100 and select the printer driver
09:46
<generic>
a network printer right
09:46
<ogra>
right
09:46
it should offer you jetdirect somewhere
09:47
<generic>
ya i did the same process before
09:47
let me do it again
09:48
<ogra>
i think its called "Appsocket/JetDirect" in the ui
09:48
at least in hardy
09:50
<rjune_>
ogra: do you have a synopsis of how the latest ltsp works/
09:50
?
09:50
<ogra>
it didnt change the last 6 months
09:51
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWithoutNFS was the last thing i have written about the architecture
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<rjune_>
that'll do me, I've not been involved for a while
10:12
I'm presenting next week.
10:12
s/week/month/
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10:29
<ogra>
vagrantc, 471793 is surely rather about the session not returning prpoerly
10:29
*properly
10:29
i dont think pam specialists will help ther
10:29
e
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<Blinny>
us.archive.ubuntu.com is just getting hammered
10:36
<ogra>
heh, yeah
10:37
i just had to verify a md5sum for an iso ... took me ages to get through to releases.ubuntu.com
10:38
around relases canonical is sucking up a majority of the complete UK bandwith :)
10:39
<laga>
really?
10:39
<ogra>
yes
10:39
<laga>
nice :)
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10:40
<laga>
we've already had 1500 downloads for mythbuntu, the release happened some time during the night
10:40
<ogra>
i'm sadly not allowed to tell numbers but they are really impressive
10:41
<laga>
that's nothing compared to ubuntu, of course, but still quite impressive ;)
10:41
<ogra>
(and i have seen big numbers in my life)
10:42
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/221918
10:43
everyone hug ace suares from me if he drops in here again :)
10:43
(my favorite hardy bug)
10:43
<vagrantc>
ogra: well, i figured i'd at least put out a call for help and maybe someone will answer :)
10:43
<Blinny>
What a cool name. Ace Suares
10:44
Is mythbuntu connected with LinuxMCE? I believe MCE uses mythtv as a package..
10:44
<laga>
Blinny: no
10:44
they use the same software and ubuntu as their base system, but they're different projects
10:44
<Blinny>
Dig.
10:45
I'm really excited about the MCE project. I'd love to go into business providing those setups.
10:46
Couldn't they mirror out the archive.ubuntu.com packages?
10:46
<laga>
they have a different goal
10:47
ah, they're still on 7.10
10:47
mythbuntu doesn't have the smart home stuff.
10:47
<Blinny>
Right right.
10:48
<laga>
and the additional 3d UI.
10:48
<Blinny>
MCE was ported from a huge proprietary codebase (from plutohome.com) - but they include diskless booting from the core server for the media directors.
10:49
I wonder how much local device support they have - and how much they relied on the LTSP in Gutsy for doing this.
10:50
Anyway. Gotta fly. Later!
10:50
<laga>
Blinny: i hear mythbuntu has support for diskless clients which is based on LTSP ;)
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<ogra>
laga, no, really ?!?
10:52* ogra grins
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<laga>
that's the word on the streets
10:52
<ogra>
hehe :)
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<vagrantc>
ogra: were security updates for "-ac" in ldm in gutsy, feisty, edgy or dapper made?
11:10
<ogra>
not yet, on my list
11:10
edgy is EOL
11:11
<vagrantc>
ah, sure.
11:11
<ogra>
and feisty had no directx
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<laga>
ogra: does canonical sell support for EOLd distros?
11:11
<vagrantc>
ogra: that wasn't a directx only bug.
11:11
<ogra>
so actually i only have to fix gutsy it seems
11:11
<vagrantc>
ogra: it applies to all versions of ldm ever released.
11:12
minus the ones where it was fixed
11:12
<ogra>
vagrantc, well, in all non directx releases its a one line change
11:12
just dropping the -ac
11:12
<vagrantc>
right.
11:12
still need to get etch fixed ...
11:13
<ogra>
laga, nope
11:13
laga, we only sell support for supported stuff indeed :)
11:13
<laga>
sad
11:13
upgrading = bad ;)
11:13
<ogra>
did you want to buy a contract for egy ?
11:13
<laga>
well, i've got another 6 months
11:13
<ogra>
*edgy
11:13
<laga>
ogra: no, feisty
11:14
i just want security updates
11:14
<ogra>
well, go to hardy and you dont have to care for 3 years
11:14
thats why we do LTS :)
11:14
<laga>
heh
11:14
good point. maybe i'll try in 6 months ;)
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<otavio>
vagrantc: i said, request the removal
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<vagrantc>
otavio: i just don't understand what i even need to say...
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<vagrantc>
ogra, warren, johnny, dberkholz, cyberorg: hopeing to tag a new version for ltsp-trunk in the next few hours... let me know if you've got anything you'd like to get in.
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<johnny>
vagrantc, i'd like to get my stuff in, but there is no rush, since it relies on a beta version of upcoming release
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<vagrantc>
johnny: yeah, this is more of a "have anything ready to commit now or very soon" kind of thing :)
12:24
<johnny>
dberkholz pinged me last night
12:24
but i wasn't here
12:24
guess it'll have to be for next time
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<vagrantc>
in the realm of 1-3 hours or so :)
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<dberkholz>
johnny: yeah, basically wondering whether your tree + ltsp overlay is sufficient for testing, and what's left to do
12:37
<johnny>
well.. nbd isn't supported at all
12:38
and it will fail when emerging the packages we need due to mkstemp and coreutils blockers
12:38
hopefully will be fixed in beta2
12:39
<dberkholz>
johnny: do you have any code for upgrading yet, or just the initial install so far?
12:39
<johnny>
for upgrading? like after install? no
12:41
<vagrantc>
that's an area i'd like to work on for debian as well
12:41
<johnny>
i'm going to rename the quickstart file
12:41
before i recommend using it
12:45
doing that right now
12:47
ok. pushed
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<vagrantc>
ltsp-trunk 5.1.5 tested, tagged, pushed and uploaded to debian.
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<Blinny>
WooO!
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<lnkemp>
Is anyone on experianced with getting sound working in ltsp 4 on fedora 6? I know 5 works better, but I cannot change distro's till the end of May
13:49
<Blinny>
1% [Waiting for headers] 501B/s 3hr43min13s
13:50
lnkemp: Yeah, I have that going now. What's up?
13:50
lnkemp: (though I'm using 4.2)
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<lnkemp>
ok lets start with that
13:51
how do I check which version of ltsp I'm running
13:51
it's k12ltsp v6
13:51
<Blinny>
Dig. Then you're 4.2
13:51
<lnkemp>
right on
13:51
<Blinny>
That's exactly what I'm running now.
13:51
First - You've got SOUND = Y in lts.conf ?
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<lnkemp>
ok well the clients are ipaqs, with i810 integrated audio
13:51
right
13:52
sound = y is in lts.conf
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sound_daemon = "esd"
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<Blinny>
OK
13:52
<lnkemp>
and smodule_01 = "i810_sound"
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<Blinny>
VOLUME != 0 ?
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<lnkemp>
volume = 75
13:53
<Blinny>
You shouldn't have to load the sound module unless it's an ISA
13:53
<lnkemp>
well I just now tried that and reset a terminal
13:53
didn't help though
13:53
<Blinny>
Ok - Leave that smodule line out
13:53
<lnkemp>
done
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<Blinny>
What are you trying to play sound with?
13:55
<lnkemp>
flash 9 ;-)
13:55
<Blinny>
Oh.
13:56
Do other things work?
13:56
<lnkemp>
no
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<Blinny>
Well let's start small. Do you have xmms or totem?
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<pscheie>
lnkemp, start with esdplay before tackling flash sound
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<lnkemp>
right
13:57
<pscheie>
esdplay <soundfile.wav>
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<lnkemp>
sorry had to download a wav file
14:00
esdplay hello.wav reported nothing
14:00
played nothing
14:03
any thoughts? what log could I check to see what is or isn't being loaded?
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<Blinny>
Have you been through http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound ?
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<lnkemp>
I have that open right now
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<Blinny>
And Gadi's page here: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WorkInProgress#esd_ALSA_sound_on_LTSP_4_2
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<lnkemp>
do I still need to download the ltsp-sound rpm?
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<Blinny>
I don't know what that is.
14:14
<lnkemp>
it's about the third step listed
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<Blinny>
Not sure. Try it and see from here: http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.1-extras/
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<lnkemp>
that didn't seem to help
14:18
there is another install onthe esd_alsa page
14:18
but I'll have to check that later, got a meeting in 10 minutes....
14:19
well thanks for the help
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<Pascal_eee>
hello
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<Navegator>
Hello, I'm trying to make my clients to access its hard drive but I do not know what to add in the udev rules to be able to construct the ltspfs_fstab correctly, can anyone help me?
18:01
I can acces the USB's and CDROM's fine, the problem comes when I try to access the hard drives
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<Dewmon689>
hi all
18:03
anyone around?
18:05
<Navegator>
Yes
18:05
hello
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<Dewmon689>
have you delt with the ad share?
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<c1b0rg>
I am having trouble seeing local hard disks on thin clients, usb and cdroms works fine, I need help.
18:07
<Navegator>
Hello, I'm trying to make my clients to access the hard drives, but I do not know what to add in the udev rules to be able to construct the ltspfs_fstab correctly, can you help me?
18:08
<Dewmon689>
haha we all have problems, where's the help?
18:08
<c1b0rg>
do not know, maybe the other 72 are bots?
18:09
what is "ad share"
18:09
<Navegator>
I'm begining to believe so
18:09
<c1b0rg>
Dewmon689, do you have hard drives in your thin clients? can you see them?
18:10
<Navegator>
No automatically
18:13
AAARRRRGGGGGHHHH, we have 72 virtual people here
18:13
<Dewmon689>
no I do not
18:14
but it sounds like they're not being mounted because the lts.conf isn't set up to mount hard drives
18:14
when the kernal is booting though, it will see it
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<c1b0rg>
well in ltps4.* you can configure lts.conf with LOCAL_DEVICE_01 = /dev/hda1:cdrom, but with ltsp5 i do not know what to do
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<Dewmon689>
hmm... have you searched on ltsp.org at all?
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<c1b0rg>
yes, i have tracked the problem down to the udev rules, where i think the problem is in adding the entries to ltsp_fstab
18:21
if in the thin client in the root console I do : mkdir /var/run/drives/hda2 and the add these line to /var/run/ltspfs_fstab: /dev/hda2 /var/run/drives/hda2
18:22
I am able to see the hard disk, but these configuration get lost when i reboot the machine.
18:23
so I add these line ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="hd[a-z]", NAME="%k", RUN+="add_fstab_entry %k auto" to /etc/udev/rules.d/z60_ltspfsd.rules
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<c1b0rg>
and I was able to see an atadisk, however it was not mountable.
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<Dewmon689>
hmmm... not sure then
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<c1b0rg>
well, thanks, and what is "ad share"
18:33
<Dewmon689>
active directory shares
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<c1b0rg>
hi, i have problems mounting hard disks on thin clients, anyone want to help me?
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<c1b0rg>
hi, i have problems mounting hard disks on thin clients, anyone want to help me?
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<johnny>
c1b0rg, stop doing that
19:55
it's annoying
19:55
this is not a good time for #ltsp
19:55
usually it's like weekdayish times
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when all the peoples are about
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<lns>
johnny, i'm always happily idling =p
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