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Channel log from 13 January 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<Appiah>
ogra hey you there?
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<Appiah>
ogra: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp-manager/+bug/191280 <-- Nevermind I found it's a already known bug
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<sbalneav>
A very c-c-c-c-cold morning to you all
08:58
<Gadi>
!s
08:58
<ltspbot`>
Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:58
<sbalneav>
Appiah: Don't use ltsp-manager, as it's essentially dead. Use something like iTalc
08:58
Morning Gadi
08:58
<Gadi>
morning
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<Appiah>
sbalneav: sorry didn't know iTalc could do the things ltsp-manager did
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<Gadi>
oops
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<ogra>
it cant
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<Appiah>
?
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<ogra>
Appiah, ltsp-manager is nonfunctional
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<Gadi>
gotta be careful what window you type pkill in...
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:)
09:00
<ogra>
and italc doesnt provide a gui way to edit lts.conf
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<Appiah>
ogra oh oki, is it going to be updated?
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<ogra>
not if nobody adopts it
09:01
ltsp-manager wasnt developed since two years ... if nobody steps up it wont be
09:01
<Appiah>
you dont feel like maintaining it?
09:01
you made it right?
09:02
<ogra>
i would love to maintin it, but i dont even have time for ltsp anymore
09:02
<Appiah>
oh =(
09:02
<ogra>
working on a different team in ubuntu now and stgraber largely took over ltsp in ubuntu
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<sbalneav>
ltsp-manager you say?
09:05
ogra: Do you have a bzr branch for it somewhere?
09:05
Or should I just start from the latest source?
09:06
<ogra>
bzr get http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/bzr/
09:06
but thats a very old tree
09:06
not sure it doesnt break with a recent bzr
09:06
<sbalneav>
ok, I'll have a look over the next few days.
09:06
<ogra>
wow, thanks a lot :)
09:06
feel free to redo it completely as it fits ... i wont cry a taer for the old code
09:06
*tear
09:07
<sbalneav>
heh
09:07* sbalneav sings softly
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<ogra>
:)
09:07
<sbalneav>
"Don't shed a tear... no regrets....""
09:07
<Appiah>
cool!
09:07
<sbalneav>
Appiah: Don't hold your breath
09:07* Appiah starts breathing again
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<Appiah>
thanks
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<ogra>
or take a pic if you turn blue :)
09:08
at east
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*least
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<Appiah>
I can't really turn blue =/
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<ogra>
if you dont breathe ?
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<Appiah>
yupp
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<sbalneav>
Everyone turns blue
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then black
09:11
theb begins to smell
09:11
eventually you just get very thin and white :)
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<ogra>
heh
09:12* ogra remembers this friend he had who always said "smoking makes a slim foot" :)
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<mistik1>
sbalneav: I think I would have a very hard time turning blue :)
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<ogra>
stgraber, around for the TB meeting ?
09:24
you are on the agenda it seems
09:27
<sbalneav>
People of ANY skinn colour turn blue.
09:27
trust me
09:28
I work with lawyers
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criminal lawyers
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<sbalneav>
with crime scene photos.
09:28
Don't make me show you. Just take it on faith :)
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<Appiah>
Then I just have not been holding my breath long enough
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and that should be a good thing
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<mistik1>
sbalneav: ok ok, :)
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<Appiah>
I'm a bit confused , I find some text about ltsp-cluster being in main, but it's not ?
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
warren, ping
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10:25* tobor wonders what the natural crossover point is between LTSP and criminal lawyers... (My God What are we doing?!! ) :-)
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<tobor>
( is joke! )
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<stgraber>
ogra: yeah, I actually added that item to the agenda but the TB wasn't scheduled at this point and I didn't see it got scheduled for today
10:31
ogra: anyway, that's good news
10:31
ogra: thanks for attending
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<ogra>
yeah, you made it, congrats :)
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<stgraber>
thanks :) Now I can upload that ltsp I have somewhere on my disk
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<Gadi>
stgraber: have they given you more power?
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just remember what spidey says...
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<krish>
CAN-o-SPAM: there?
11:55
<CAN-o-SPAM>
hi krish
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<krish>
i kinda did some artwork for the ltsp contest, based on the lobster talk we had that day
11:56
<CAN-o-SPAM>
ok?
11:56
<krish>
i cant figure out (for now) where to put the LTSP name :P
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
haha
11:57
well if you want to e-mail me i'd be glad to take a look
11:57* krish waits for imageshack to open
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
alexc@disklessworkstations.com
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<krish>
okay
12:00
CAN-o-SPAM: sent. :)
12:01* krish waits eagerly and nervously for some response.
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<_UsUrPeR_>
krish: did you draw that yourself?
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<krish>
!
12:03
now whatever did that mean!
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<_UsUrPeR_>
I like the eyes on the lobster
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all googly and whatnot
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<krish>
but but how? I sent the email to CAN-o-SPAM
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_UsUrPeR_: == CAN-o-SPAM?
12:04
_UsUrPeR_: so you liked it :*)
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<_UsUrPeR_>
yeah :D
12:04
I work with can-o-spam
12:04
same office
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<krish>
oh heh
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<_UsUrPeR_>
I like it :)
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<krish>
you see there are 2 think clients there, one wired and another wireless
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_UsUrPeR_: I am glad you did :)
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
krish you are quite the artist
12:06
<krish>
nah, i am just learning
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
well the artwork is good
12:06
can i make some suggestion so it fits more of a "logo" format
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<krish>
:)
12:07
CAN-o-SPAM: sure
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<alkisg>
I'd like to see the little penguins / big penguin idea with 4 little penguins wearing shirts with the LTSP letters on them... :)
12:07
<CAN-o-SPAM>
ok so logos sometimes are best with a transparent background (so the logo can be put on any other color)
12:08
ltsp + wireless = not a good combo, so i'd do an "ethernet connection" like you did with the left terminal
12:08
for using letters LTSP ... not sure where, maybe lobster holds up a sign that says LTSP?
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<krish>
CAN-o-SPAM: I can remove the water layer so that leaves the lobster, server and clients on transparent background
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
krish: also try and make it much smaller (like 500%) and see how it looks too, that will be important
12:09
krish: ok that is good
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<krish>
I can also do away with the wireless client. do you want that place empty or another wired client there?
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
another wired
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<krish>
ok
12:10
I'll think of someway to put the LTSP nicely.
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alkisg: you dont like lobster :)
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<alkisg>
I didn't see the lobster! :) I just saw the penguins and thought it would be nice if they were wearing the letters!
12:12
Lobster is only for the rich ltsp developers... :P :D We teachers can't afford it! :D
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<krish>
CAN-o-SPAM: with very smaller image, the thin clients are almost disappearing. I guess I will make the sizes bigger (also addresses big penguins for alkisg)
12:14
thanks for the suggestions. I'll ciao all tomorrow bye
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
great
12:15
thanks for your great work krish!
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<krish>
my pleasure
12:16
ciao
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<Lns>
I sure wish everyone used GNUCash instead of QB :( Intuit is shooting themselves in the foot with these new versions and how it deals with client/server communications\
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<dberkholz>
gnucash doesn't do tax forms or accountant exports to quickbooks format. =P
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<Lns>
dberkholz: It could if the right people were behind it (maybe the people who made =< QB 2005) =)
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<MaTrixKx>
buenas a todos
13:00
espero que alguien entienda espanol
13:01
tengo la siguiente duda, estoy implementando LTSP en un powerpc, la duda es los clientes tienen que ser de la misma arquitectura o puedo conectar terminales i386
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si alguien me pudiese contestar lo agradeceria bastante
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<johnny>
ltsp server == powerpc ?
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<MaTrixKx>
johnny, yes it is
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my clients i386
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its posible?
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<johnny>
yes
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si
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ltsp-build-client on any other i386 machine
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<MaTrixKx>
excelent
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<johnny>
and then copy /opt/ltsp/i386 to the server
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<MaTrixKx>
i use ubuntu in server side
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in my powerbook G4
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<johnny>
install ubuntu on any i386, run ltsp-build-client , copy that entire folder to the server /opt/ltsp/i386
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<MaTrixKx>
W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/powerpc mount -t proc proc /proc
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error: la instalación del cliente LTSP finalizó de forma anormal
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diablito@DiaBlito-PowerBook:~$
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<johnny>
hmm?
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<sbalneav>
MaTrixKx: You'll have to create the /opt/ltsp/i386 folder on an i386 machine to gave it work.
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<MaTrixKx>
sbalneav, entiendes espanol??
13:21
<sbalneav>
Nope, sorry.
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<MaTrixKx>
ok then this error that I get
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
warren, ping
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<warren>
pong
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<MaTrixKx>
sbalneav, since I can make to generate the directory i386 within the /opt/LTSP directory
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friend thanks I have already it with the parameter --arch i386 encontre in man
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mmmm not works
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since I can make to generate the LTSP installation in powerpc for clients i386
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<johnny>
you have to use another computer!
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an i386 computer
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it is not possible without that
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<MaTrixKx>
that was my question for already some time
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johnny, tanks
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see you soon
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<Gadi>
stgraber: ping
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<stgraber>
Gadi: pong
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<Gadi>
hey, there - I have a few things on my LTSP hit list that I want to go over with you
15:00
lemme know when you have some time
15:01
basically, they include:
15:01
1. Merging by ltspfs-trunk-local into ltspfs-trunk
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(seems to test well)
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2. updating ltsp-genmenu code (could use some testing by you with ltsp-cluster)
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hmm...
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I know Im forgetting something
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anyway, lemme know when you have free cycles
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<johnny>
Gadi, when do you plan on working on dbus stuff with ltsp?
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<Gadi>
johnny: as soon as I learn to spell it
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:)
15:10* Gadi never learned to spell, having missed d-bus
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<Gadi>
lol
15:11* Gadi seems to crack up only himself
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<laga>
rotfl
15:11
we got a worse one the other day in #mythtv-users
15:12* CAN-o-SPAM croaks over dead from laughing too hard
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<_UsUrPeR_>
what's the nomenclature in Fedora 10 to use an xorg.conf file? I'm trying to set a virtual display of 3360x1050
15:12
even better: is there an X_ option I can use in the lts.conf?
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<Gadi>
X_VIRTUAL = "3360 1050" , I believe
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<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi: that will work in lts.conf? Sweet
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<Gadi>
it should, if warren's got new upstream stuff in there
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which I know he likes to do
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:)
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<warren>
although we have ltsp-5.1.44 currently
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: so close, and so far away
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<warren>
and you need to verify the version of ltsp-client in your chroot
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<Gadi>
look to see if there is a: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen-script.d/*virtual*
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or some such
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actually, screen-session.d
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<johnny>
kc8pxy, huh?
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<bill_c>
hey all!
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<warren>
Ryan52: how is the state of latest upstream? did anyone complain about anything breaking?
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<bill_c>
after 25 or 30 clients are booted, we start getting: Failed to setup /dev/nbd0 device
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any ideas?
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<Lns>
bill_c: are you using nbdswap?
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<bill_c>
Lns, yes
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<Lns>
bill_c: could you be running out of room on your server hdd?
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in /tmp specifically
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(network swapfiles are kept there)
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<bill_c>
I don't see anything in /tmp that looks like swapfiles, how do I check
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<johnny>
bill_c, how about just df -h
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<bill_c>
just sda1 and udev, 196g free
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<Lns>
bill_c: do the booted TCs otherwise work as expected?
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Do the affected TCs hang, or give console errors?
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What distro?
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<bill_c>
only the first 25-30, the others hang at the Failed to setup /dev/nbd0 device, RebootException: error consoles at Alt-F3/F4
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can't alt f3/4 looks like panic
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sles10
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<johnny>
kiwi then?
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<Lns>
kiwi-ltsp?
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<bill_c>
yes
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<johnny>
perhaps try #kiwi-ltsp ...
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if nobody can answer here
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<Lns>
damn it johnny, you're beating me to the punch here
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lol
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<johnny>
that's cuz i am awesome..DUH
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hehe
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<bill_c>
hopefully someone can :) only 1 in #kiwi-ltsp
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<Lns>
bill_c: try #kiwi
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<johnny>
hmm.. unlikely Lns
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kiwi exists outside of ltsp.. it is probably something specific about kiwi-ltsp ..
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<Lns>
johnny: it diverts to #opensuse-kiwi
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ah..well i dunno then =p
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<johnny>
kiwi is a build system
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it can even be used to build ubuntu
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or whatever
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<Lns>
oh
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<johnny>
or any other distro
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<Lns>
well thats redundant =p
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<johnny>
it's not just a nice name for their version of ltsp
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<alkisg>
Well, in http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP it says to go to #kiwi...
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<Lns>
ha!
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<johnny>
i guess they all hang out there
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<Gadi_eeepc>
bill_c: nbd0 should be the rootfs
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not swap
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sounds like the nbd server may be having issues
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grpe your syslog for nbd errors
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*grep
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also check your switch
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<Lns>
bill_c: also see https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/kiwi-users/2008-June/000712.html
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<bill_c>
Gadi_eeepc, checking now
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Lns, started their
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<Lns>
Gadi_eeepc: what eee do you have?
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<Gadi_eeepc>
901
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<Lns>
oh yeah
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my 701's S key just started acting up (2 S's for every press)
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<bill_c>
thx *guys* for help
16:29* bill_c slaps head
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<Gadi_eeepc>
fix it?
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<bill_c>
was xinetd restrictions
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<Gadi_eeepc>
ah - cap on the number of instances?
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<Lns>
oh wow thats a weird issue
16:31* Lns has always liked inetd better
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<bill_c>
yup and bw, 30 connections, and 50cps
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<Gadi_eeepc>
sometimes the extensions arent as helpful
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:)
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<Gadi_eeepc>
just remember, even in this day and age where many distros have their own ltsp, we are still just a collection of basic protocols and services
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:)
16:34* Lns remembers the "fun" HOWTOs before distro integration.. install this, put this in conf file..install this, put this in conf file... etc etc
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<Lns>
Took me like a week to get a TC to boot hehe
16:35* bill_c hasn't done ltsp since 4 :(
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: i get as far as the tftp part of pxe, and it fails, saying file not found.
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I've obviously goofed the config, but i don't know how
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: you free?
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<kc8pxy>
hello?
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<Guest14151>
soon
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<bpun>
hi
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anyone has a recommends for thinclient station hardware? looking for low cost <=150 usd?
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<Lns>
hmm... not a new tc, maybe older/recycled h/w...what are you trying to do on the thinclients?
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<johnny>
kc8pxy, back
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<Ryan52>
13:51 < warren> Ryan52: how is the state of latest upstream? did anyone complain about anything breaking?
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uhhh...what? :)
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<warren>
there seemed to be some doubt about the group changes
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<Ryan52>
oh, right, he fixed both of the syntax errors.
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: cool :)
20:43
seems my dhcp config goofed.. vbox does pxe to the dhcp, and reaches the tftp, and fumbles a file.
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<johnny>
ok?
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of course.. you're here
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and i'm about to leave for an hour
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<rixter>
hello all
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<kc8pxy>
ugh
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<Ryan52>
kc8pxy, what?
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<kc8pxy>
Ryan52: johnny stepped out again just as i got back to teh keys
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<Ryan52>
o
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<kc8pxy>
AFAIK johnny and dberkholz are the most knowledgable in this room about gentoo and ltsp
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<johnny>
hi
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<kc8pxy>
heya
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<johnny>
atm.. your issue isn't even related to gentoo as far as i can tell
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and is just a generic problem with any ltsp setup :)
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: very possibly.. but i don't see any debug on this, so i'm not sure where to start tinkering
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i wish it would tell me what tftp path it was failing on
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which file it's not finding
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<johnny>
you still haven't showed me what your dhcp config looks like
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wireshark is useful for this btw
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<kc8pxy>
http://pastebot.ltsp.org/172
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<johnny>
so.. try tftp manually based on what is in your config file
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tftp <server>
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get /ltsp/x86/pxelinux.0
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i assume this one
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192.168.2.89
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<kc8pxy>
Error code 1: File not found
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<johnny>
well, there ya go :)
22:22
and ls /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/x86 says ?
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<kc8pxy>
where is that absolute path rooted?
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<johnny>
that's what the config in /etc/conf.d/in.tftpd is for
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<kc8pxy>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Jan 9 18:29 pxelinux.0 -> /usr/share/syslinux/pxelinux.0
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<johnny>
hmm.. maybe in.tftpd doesn't like symbolic links..
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try copying the file there
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<dgroos>
Hi!
22:27
I've got what is probably a very easy question...
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I'm trying to set up an Edubuntu Hardy LTSP network in my room.
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my challenge has been trying to set up a network printer, hooked up to the switch that the thin clients are on, not a printer hooked up to a client. Is this possible?
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<kc8pxy>
FIANLLY
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<johnny>
dgroos, sure
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<johnny>
that's not really ltsp related .. it should work if it is set up on the server itself
22:35
since all users are logged into the server already.. they should just see it, as long as your server knows about it
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<dgroos>
Hmmmm... I can only seem to set up 'local' printers--can seem to even ping the printer from one of the ltsp clients
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maybe I've got something messed up on the server set up...
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Any suggestions where I look, if you don't mind?
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<johnny>
log in as the initial user
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the user youcreated when you installed ubuntu
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right on the console
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err at the machine itself
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<dgroos>
sorry, 'the initial user'?
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<johnny>
the one you you created when you installed ubuntu
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<dgroos>
Oh-- :-)
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<johnny>
does it have a monitor?
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: my production install of the ltsp is on a place where i can't yet expect the connection to be up after a little while once i issue the ltsp-build-client command. what file do i edit to put an emerge -f on the front end?
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<dgroos>
Yes
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<johnny>
kc8pxy, the install happens in many steps
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dgroos, set up the printer there
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make sure you can print on that
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err as that user
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<dgroos>
I'll try again tomorrow!
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<johnny>
kc8pxy, it is unlikely that you will be able to do that
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: :-(
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<johnny>
dgroos, once it works for that user, it should be easy to make it work for all
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<dgroos>
Thanks!
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<johnny>
ubuntu has a printer wizard thing
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<dgroos>
Thanks--and the proper irc might be standard Ubuntu?
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<johnny>
set it to be the default printer
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proper ric?
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err
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proper irc*? do you mean for help with that?
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<dgroos>
lets try that again,
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irc :-)
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<johnny>
it's unlikely you will need help
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hopefully it'll just work for that admin user.. and then just work for everybody else
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so.. try following the wizard, tell it to use a network printer
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and once it is added, right click on the printer and choose "set default" or whatever
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or set default printer.. etc..
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<dgroos>
Right.
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<johnny>
then when you try to print from applications on the clients, it'll be in the list
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<dgroos>
Cool, I'll give it a try and try to let you know tomorrow eve if you are around!
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<johnny>
i just don't know if they need to be in some "lp" group on ubuntu
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your thin client users that is
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<dgroos>
Maybe if it doesn't work again tomorrow I will get back to you :-)
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<johnny>
kc8pxy, why do you need to get it all when you're at the place?
22:44
you already have all the packages downloaded already right?
22:44
why not just copy that
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and why would you run it again?
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<dgroos>
Johnny: Thanks
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<johnny>
just copy the entire /opt/ltsp.. no sense in regenerating it again
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: this is my dev install.. can i simply tarbal this client in /opt/ltsp/x86/ and put it in the productions place?
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<johnny>
sure
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<yappingboy>
I'm trying to use the opensuse 11.1 mosix kernel on my ltsp server and the client is giving me a invalid kernel image anyone have any ideas?
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<johnny>
probably not
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i've never heard anybody who has had that problem
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or was trying to do that even
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altho it is neat
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perhaps the kernel package is broken and didn't install correctly
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it is probably a suse problem?
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: not that i have a booting LTSP client, (well, the nfs just failed, probably forgot to start it) it should be simple to add a pretty bootsplash to this?
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<johnny>
uhmm..
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i guess genkernel can do it
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i don't know how.. but there are instructions
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i don't know what is a good option these days
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<yappingboy>
does ltsp need/use a gzipped kernel image?
22:55
<johnny>
ltsp just uses standard tools.. so the question would be whether teh standard tools require it
22:55
i don't think so
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zipped kernels are just faster to download
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depends on where you get the error..
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<yappingboy>
i get the error when the client try's to load the image
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<johnny>
is this after linux starts?
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or more like.. is this when linux is trying to start
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or before that
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: this is where modules help, right?
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<johnny>
kc8pxy, hmm ?
22:59* johnny bets some people are very happy about this whole gem thing..
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: nfs failed because udhcpc said : no such device.
22:59
<johnny>
except nvidia users..
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<yappingboy>
yeah when it try's to start the bootload try's to load the image then errors and goes back to the loader
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<johnny>
kc8pxy, yeah.. you need modules for your cad
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card*
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yappingboy, you probably need to look at wherever your pxelinux.cfg/default is
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and make sure it matches the same name as the kernel you're trying to load
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i don't know where that stuff is stored on suse ltsp
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: i saw something that should make that nice and easy. i see the pxe hunting for the config by mac.. i could create a config and a initrd for each nic(i'm planning on having pxe roms on floating pci nics.) with the modules for just that nic in the initrd?
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<johnny>
uhmm.. why?
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sounds complicated?
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just put a list of all nics you need in one initrd
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: customized config with fast boot.
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<johnny>
it's not that fast..
23:04* johnny doesn't understand exactly why it can't detect the network card and just load the damn driver
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<kc8pxy>
fater than loading a bunch of nic modules i don't need(or want?)
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johnny: agreed.
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<johnny>
well.. if you must.. i just don't think the speed gain is negligable
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err i just think*
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<kc8pxy>
kk
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<johnny>
there are many other areas of that could be improved
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like nbd .. similiar to ubuntu
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but our initramfs doesn't handle it
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i'm thinking about trying to work with that fedora guy on their new system
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see how it compares to initramfs-tools
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if ubuntu and fedora cooperate and both use it.. i'll definitely switch ltsp initramfs building over to that
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and drop genkernel for initrd altogether
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i'll probably even switch ltsp on gentoo to upstart
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at that point
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to take advantage of kms and all the goodies
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<yappingboy>
well johnny thanks for the help but the thing still wont boot... looks like i'm gunna have to give up on the termserv setup for now bye for now
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<johnny>
uggh..
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: what genkernel module do i need so it works with the the basic vbox nic?
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<johnny>
pcnet32
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<kc8pxy>
bind -o proc sys and dev for a nice genkernel build?
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DOH
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i forgot to linux32 my chroot :-(
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<johnny>
you should use that script
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that i pasted for ya
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that way you'll get the layman stuff so make.conf won't freak out
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<kc8pxy>
kk
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brb
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<kc8pxy>
i get bunches of errors about mount not liking me, but it's working, (i think). where does genkernel drop it's files?
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in /boot/??
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johnny: perms denied on the nfs mount?
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it pointed at opt/ltsp/x86, but came back with perms denied.
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<johnny>
mount not liking you?
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yes.. in /boot
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what's your /etc/exports look like?
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<kc8pxy>
# /etc/exports: NFS file systems being exported. See exports(5).
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# Automatically added by ltsp-server
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/opt/ltsp *(ro,no_root_squash,async)