IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 14 December 2013   (all times are UTC)

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17:42
<feltham1983>
hey
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23:05* alkisg waves
23:07
<alkisg>
vagrantc: so, if ldm (not the greeter) was reimplemented in e.g. 100 lines of shell code, along with the ssh, rdesktop and pam plugins... would you feel uncomfortable because of the `run greeter | read ldm_password` line?
23:07
:)
23:10* vagrantc struggles
23:12
<alkisg>
It would be very easy then to do the user-owned ssh socket, the /etc/shadow md5sum password hash etc... :)
23:12* alkisg doesn't think that it's the language that provides security, but the carefully written code
23:14
<alkisg>
I think we could even handle password expiry then
23:22
<vagrantc>
while the code is more important in the language... shell is not much of a programming language
23:23
so this sounds like ldm3...
23:24
<alkisg>
The greeter is designed to communicate with stdio, how hard can it be?
23:25
It's not like we're currently zeroing the RAM where the .c variables that hold the password are, after they're used...
23:25
It's the same as `unset ldm_password` before continuing with sourcing the rc.d scripts etc
23:26
If we weren't using shell inside ldm, I wouldn't even propose it... but it doesn't sound right to me to have a .c wrapper to invoke shell scripts, when the wrapper itself can be in shell..
23:27
We're just making our lives more difficult by mixing .c and shell in the same code flow...
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