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Channel log from 16 August 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<wfamy>
hello
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<wfamy>
I install LTSP5 under a debian etch install. X work , i canot login under ldm , i install icewm and kdm kde , i can connect kdm under icewm but i canot white anything on my /home. I tell readonly but my /export say rw. any idea?
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<Jenna>
hey all ! just needed to know if s/w patch support for K12ltsp has been dropped or what ?
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<ogra>
Jenna, if you mean ltsp5 support, nobody stepped up the last two years to port it to redhat yet ...
05:28
i cant say anything about k12 itself, but i know eric harrison is extremly busy with his job
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<Jenna>
hmm
05:40
no the thing is for couple of months now all of my k12ltsp servers stopped yum updating anything
05:40
so I guess it related to k12ltsp and not ltsp
05:40
but since k12ltsp is packages with ltsp , I thought I might ask this in here
05:53
anyone who can speak on behalf of k12ltsp ?
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<cliebow>
Jenna:i guess not...
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<Jenna>
hey cliebow
06:17
btw I have noticed the patch that k12ltsp5 search for yum are also screwy
06:18
and the FC5 has been removed from most of the repos
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<jammcq>
\names
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<ogra>
and dates
06:37
<jammcq>
g'morning
06:37
<ogra>
hey hey
06:37
<jammcq>
ogra: scotty get you all squared away with the build problems of yesterday?
06:37* ogra finally got scotts stuff building
06:38
<ogra>
not all of them, but fixing the remaining things was trivial enough
06:38
<jammcq>
great
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<ogra>
we have session and lang selection back :)
06:38
and we have a hardcoded failsafe xterm session now :)
06:39
so if nothing works, this will ...
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<jammcq>
where does that give you an xterm, into the server?
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<ogra>
yep
06:44
as long as xterm is in PATH
06:44
<jammcq>
cool
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<ByPasS>
gmorning every1
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<Guaraldo>
Morning
07:35
<ByPasS>
Guaraldo : you have an idea who could give me hint about using the XF86CONFIG_FILE directive in lts.conf ?
07:36
the edubuntu states to put the custom file in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc , did that but when the client boots it gives me an error
07:36
tried to put in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11 same result
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<Guaraldo>
ByPasS: Why do you need this option?
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<ogra>
ByPasS, which release ?
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<ByPasS>
im using ltsp5 with debian etch
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<ogra>
whats the line for XF86CONFIG_FILE in your lts.conf looking like ?
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<ByPasS>
XF86CONFIG_FILE = XF86Config.lt01
07:50
XF86Config.lt01 is in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc
07:51
Gua : Im testing a new thinclient (bosanova rbt-366) and it uses an AMD vid cardf
07:51
I had to install xserver-xorg-video-amd
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now i get a display but it fails to auto prob my monitor using that xserver (odd)
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<ogra>
your line should be: XF86CONFIG_FILE = /etc/XF86Config.lt01
07:53
the path for the file needs to be relative to the chroot
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<ByPasS>
oh
07:54
Ill try that, the edubuntu doc misleaded me
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<ogra>
which doc was that
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<ByPasS>
mind if i paste the url ?
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<ogra>
the shipped doc in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz says "relative to /opt/ltsp/$ARCH" in the comments to the var
07:57
please paste it
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<ByPasS>
http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ltsp-client.html
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<ogra>
right, thats wrong
07:58
i'll take care it gets fixed, thanks for the pointer
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<ByPasS>
well thanks to you :)
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<billguedes>
hi all
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<junix-br>
hello bill
08:35
billguedes, :)
08:39
billguedes, are you there?
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<billguedes>
i cannot access the local devices on ltsp 4.2
08:41
cdrom for example
08:42
i flow the document in http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalMedia, but not sucess :-(
08:43
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: http://www.golem.de/0708/54153.html <-- think thats what for you :-)
08:46
<ogra>
K_O-Gnom, yeah, the open community servers :)
08:46
thats what you get if everyone has access
08:46
<K_O-Gnom>
every one has access to that servers? so everybody can do everything?
08:47
<ogra>
these are the servers where community devs can do testbuilds etc
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<K_O-Gnom>
billguedes: i want to visit your link and the wiki told me that there iss no wiki entry ..
08:48
ogra: ok ...
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<ogra>
not *everybody* but its easy to get into the ubuntu-members team which is the base for access here
08:48
!troubleshooting
08:48
<ltspbot>
ogra: "troubleshooting" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/TroubleShooting
08:48
<ogra>
billguedes, ^^^^ try that one
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<K_O-Gnom>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting
08:49
thats what i found
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<ogra>
right
08:50
K_O-Gnom, all these servers are not even accessible by canonical people btw, the community maintains them, canonical sponsors one or the other though
08:51
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: thats what i tought ... the power and hardware is payed by canonical and others use them :-)
08:51
<ogra>
right
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<K_O-Gnom>
crab the gentoo-wiki dont work ..
08:52* ogra jus uploaded the latest ldm code to gutsy ...
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<ogra>
time for a break
08:53
<billguedes>
ok
08:54
i didn't read all document
08:54
sorry
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<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: did you know wich websites and so is running at that servers?
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<billguedes>
and about ltsp 5, there can i find document?
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<EXP2>
I have ltsp5 running and after logout mouse cursor disappear. Any suggestions?
09:08
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: i figured out how i can set $ESPEAKER on gentoo for every user :-)
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<Blinny>
Wow. So I think bonobo has created 18000+ /tmp/orbit-{USERNAME}-{HEXCODE} socket handling files when FreeNX didn't play right.
09:19
<K_O-Gnom>
is there a way to get the hostname of the client into a variable on the server?
09:20
<ByPasS>
K_O : U can make your dhcpd to assign a static ip to a client (based on its mac address)
09:20
K_O : then u can add that ip in /etc/hosts with a name of your choice
09:21
<billguedes>
EXP2, which document do you used?
09:21
<K_O-Gnom>
ByPasS: thats what im doin at the moment but i want to create a login script on the server wich automaticaly exports $ESPEAKER with the right ip/hosname ..
09:21
+t
09:25
so is there a way to do that?
09:25
<ByPasS>
K_O : I beleive you can use the LDM_REMOTECMD directive in lts.conf for that
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<K_O-Gnom>
ByPasS: is that available on 4.1 ltsp??
09:28
<ByPasS>
K_O : good question I'm fairly new to ltsp and only used v5 so far
09:28
K_O : but id guess so since lts.conf is no longer required (dunno if it was before) in version 5
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<K_O-Gnom>
ByPasS: on gentoo there is atm only 4.2 available so i use that ..
09:29
<ByPasS>
K_O : if the LDM_REMOTECMD doesnt work you can also try RCFILE_01 directive as well
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<K_O-Gnom>
and i think there MUST be a way to get the ip/hostname into an variable .. but atm i not figured out which name it have ..
09:31
ByPasS: the script must run on the server not on the WS .. because the $ESPEAKER must be set on the server (with the .bashrc i can set it staticaly but i want it dynamicaly that more than one user can use one or more WSs ..
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<billguedes>
is good the ltsp 5?
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<Blinny>
ByPasS: $LTSP_CLIENT is the hostname of the client on the server side.
09:50
er
09:50
K_O-Gnom: $LTSP_CLIENT is the hostname of the client on the server side.
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<exodos>
K_O-Gnom: $ESPEAKER should be exported by default in ltsp5 if you use esd or pulseaudio as sound daemon
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<K_O-Gnom>
exodos: i dont have 5.0 ltsp i have 4.2 ltsp
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Blinny: $LTSP_CLIENT is only set ones or is it set for the X session?
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<exodos>
I want to overwrite one common ltsp5 build plugin with my custom one. Will it be enough to just copy this file to /etc/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client and change what i want? Can i change the name of this file?
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<Gadi>
exodus, ogra: I found reference to that bug Im seeing with the processes not dying: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/90258
10:38
for what its worth
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<Blinny>
K_O-Gnom: I don't understand your question.
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<K_O-Gnom>
Blinny: you said that the var $LTSP_CLIENT containes the ip adress from the client. i that var globaly set once or is it set for every X-Session that connects to the X Server
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http://dubyasong.ytmnd.com/ <--funny
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<Blinny>
K_O-Gnom: $LTSP_CLIENT contains the hostname
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K_O-Gnom: I believe it is set once.
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K_O-Gnom: (though others in this room would know for certain)
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<ByPasS_>
I'm trying to get this geode (amd) based thinclient with my ltsp5 installation. I could'nt get a display to work properly with the autodetection (had to restart xserver multiple times to get a display) once in X I had more glitches. I did some datamining on the thinclient and figured it was using xserver-xorg-video-amd. chroot then apt-get installed it and did set XSERVER = amd in my lts.conf file. With those operation, my display problems were fixed. But
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<K_O-Gnom>
Blinny: but if it set once how dos X server know when more than one client logs in where it has to send the output?
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<Gadi>
ByPasS_: I dont know what the but is, but if the but is that you dont get a high resolution, try adding: XORG_SYNC_RANGES=Y
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to lts.conf
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<ByPasS_>
Gadi : well if i remove the XSERVER = amd I see it tries to launch LDM then the screen blanks. by restarting xserver multiples times sometimes it doesnt blackout (odd) and Im in 1024x768
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<ByPasS_>
Gadi : but as I said, removing xserver = amd makes the background inexistant and leaves a trail if i move windows around once logged in
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Gadi : let me try the XORG_SYNC sec
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<Gadi>
ByPasS_: the amd driver is a bit slow to initialize
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but, it gets there, usually
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<ByPasS_>
on debian in was in unstable i did chroot then apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-amd
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<Gadi>
the main geode issue that I have yet to resolve on the gx's is usplash (boot splash)
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i have to turn it off for it to boot all the way through
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<ByPasS_>
gadi : I got a rbt-366 here
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gadi : i think its gx2 based ?
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<Gadi>
then, it could be the same chipset
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did you have to turn off bootsplash?
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<ByPasS_>
gadi : i didnt, all i did is set to net boot in its bios
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<Gadi>
(ie does it sometimes get stuck at the end of the bootsplash and not continue)
13:28
ah
13:28
try disabling the bootsplash, as well, then. You may get more consistent results
13:29
Ubuntu, for some reason, also does not blacklist the gxfb
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(like it does for almost all other framebuffers)
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including gx1fb
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lol
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<ByPasS_>
what is odd is if i remove the xserver = amd, it is in 1024x768 (default)
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<Gadi>
But, even with the gxfb disabled, usplash is not happy
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why is that odd?
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<ByPasS_>
well why setting xserver = amd would make ltsp to auto detect a 15inch monitor and set 800x600
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<Gadi>
its not ltsp its the amd driver
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1 sec
13:30
ph call
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<ByPasS_>
oh kk ill try the sync thing
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<Gadi>
back - so...
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the amd driver sucks at detecting the horizontal/vertical sync frequencies
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and the default mode that it usually can fall back on is 800x600
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by adding XORG_SYNC_RANGES=Y
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to lts.conf
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you tell it to print the frequencies in the xorg.conf file that gets generated
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with them explicitly declared, the amd driver is better
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and now can access higher res modes
13:35
sorry, to be clear, XORG_SYNC_RANGES tells dpkg to print the frequencies in the xorg.conf that it generates explicitly
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as dpkg is the method used (at least in Ubuntu's LTSP in Feisty) to generate the xorg.conf
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<ByPasS_>
debian too ?
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<Gadi>
im not sure
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if vagrantc is around, he would know better
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<vagrantc>
debian uses xdebconfigurator + dexconf
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<Gadi>
ah
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<vagrantc>
by default
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<ByPasS_>
I added the xorg_sync_ranges and still 800x600 umm
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<Gadi>
do you know any hacks to get them to print the frequencies in the xorg.conf file?
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<vagrantc>
the new x configuration stuff didn't work for debian at all :(
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Gadi: what do you mean by frequencies ?
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<Gadi>
horizontal/vertical
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<vagrantc>
like 800x600, 1024x768, etc ?
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<Gadi>
the amd driver likes them explicitly declared in xorg.conf
13:38
no
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HorizSync
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<vagrantc>
ah
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<Gadi>
VertRefresh
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<vagrantc>
set HORZSYNC and VERTREFRESH
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<Gadi>
right. that will work for one monitor ;)
13:39* vagrantc looks at the init scripts
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<Gadi>
Blinny: try: X_HORZSYNC=30-80
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<vagrantc>
in my experience, xdebconfigurator always sets the values so that those get set
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<Gadi>
and: X_VERTREFRESH=60-80
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and see if the resolution's better
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sorry, ByPasS_
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<vagrantc>
gah. X configuration needs a total overhaul.
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<Gadi>
vagrantc: why didnt configure-x.sh work on debian?
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: no idea.
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<Gadi>
does: X -configure?
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: it seemed to hang the machine, though.
13:43
only tried it on one machine
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<Blinny>
Gadi: Try it yourself! ;)
13:43
<Gadi>
heh
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<vagrantc>
at any rate, i think we should have an X_CONFIG_SCRIPT or some such to more easily define that stuff.
13:44
that way we can hook whatever we want in.
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<Gadi>
vagrantc: does debian run anything on display :1 by default?
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: define "by default" ?
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<ByPasS_>
gadi : i checked in the bios and setting the net boot seems to auto disable the splash it was set to disabled
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<Gadi>
vagrantc: on a thin client
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: i think LDM is configured to run on tty7 with :6 by default.
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<Gadi>
ByPasS_: I meant remove the bootsplash
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in pxelinux.cfg/default
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take out "splash"
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vagrantc: ok. that script (configure-x.sh) does X -configure :1
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so, I thought that might cause your sys to hang
13:46
actually, it does Xorg -configure :1
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<ByPasS_>
gadi : so basicly at this point my prob is linked with debian in a way right ?
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<Gadi>
not really
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i dont think
13:48
the problem is just not getting a higher resolution, right?
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<vagrantc>
next time i try configure-x.sh i'm going to comment out that "clear" line.
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<ByPasS_>
Gadi : yup
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Gadi : well yes, using xserver = amd
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<Gadi>
set the horizontal/vertical syncs
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<ByPasS_>
did no go
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<Gadi>
did you try that?
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X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH
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<ByPasS_>
yes both
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<Gadi>
ah
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<ByPasS_>
i did grab the XF86Config from the thinclient itself
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to figure out it was using xserver amd
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<Gadi>
you may need the actual numbers from your monitor
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<ByPasS_>
gadi : if i boot the unit normally (no pxe) it gets in X in 1280 res fine
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(the rbt-366 is a linux thin)
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<Gadi>
ByPasS_: you can always copy that XF86Config file
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to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc
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say, /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/xorg.geode.conf
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and then put: XF86CONFIG_FILE=/etc/xorg.geode.conf
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in lts.conf
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<ByPasS_>
it wont even get to LDM (i tried)
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let me retry tho
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<Gadi>
LDM will take about a minute or so to come up on that thin client I bet
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you should wait ;)
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<ByPasS_>
ok im retrying then
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<Gadi>
part of the latest dev work was redoing LDM in C
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to make it much faster
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<ByPasS_>
gadi : so i only leave the XF86_CONFIG directive in lts.conf ?
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<vagrantc>
what did i miss ?
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<ByPasS_>
vagrant : i was able to grab the XF86 conf from the thinclient itself
13:56
trying to set it with XF86CONFIG directive atm
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<vagrantc>
be sure to spell it right
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XF86CONFIG_FILE
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<ByPasS_>
yup rebooting client
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<Gadi>
right
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<ByPasS_>
got to text login prompt cursor blinking
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<vagrantc>
ogra: how does gutsy's LTSP handle XF86CONFIG_FILE ?
14:32
as far as i can tell, it's not used anywhere.
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<ogra>
vagrantc, sbalneav changed the name to XORG_CONF
15:03
i'll fix that
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<ogra>
wasnt in my focus to get in before feature freeze
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<JDGoddard>
Hi all
15:08
Could use a little help if possible
15:09
I'm a new admin at a school with an already mlamentedLTSP
15:09
We put in a new set of switches to give the terminals Gb peeds back to the server
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Something broke and now my clients cannot connect to the tftp server
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<ByPasS_>
is the server running ?
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<JDGoddard>
This is likely NOT due to the hardwareeehang but with my mucking around in the configs
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It's the smae as the dhcp so yes
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<ByPasS_>
JDGoddard : netstat -lnp | grep ":69"
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<JDGoddard>
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:* 1890/xinetd
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[root@hslnxts01 JDGoddard]# cat /etc/services |grep tftp
15:13
tftp 69/tcp
15:13
tftp 69/udp
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tftp-mcast 1758/tcp
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tftp-mcast 1758/udp
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mtftp 1759/udp
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subntbcst_tftp 247/tcp # SUBNTBCST_TFTP
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subntbcst_tftp 247/udp # SUBNTBCST_TFTP
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etftp 1818/tcp # Enhanced Trivial File Transfer Protocol
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etftp 1818/udp # Enhanced Trivial File Transfer Protocol
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tftps 3713/tcp # TFTP over TLS
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tftps
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Looks ok right?
15:14
<ogra>
!pastebot
15:14
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15:14
<JDGoddard>
Sorry
15:15
<ByPasS_>
whats the error msg ?
15:16
as it seems to be running accordning to netstat
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<ltsppbot>
Someone pasted "Output of /var/log/messages" (6 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/276
15:21
<JDGoddard>
That's me
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<K_O-Gnom>
hmm did anybody know where on the server i can find the hostname/ip-adress of the client? (in a var)
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15:48
<ogra>
ogra@laptop:~/devel/gutsy-ltsp$ IP=$(ip -o -f inet addr show | sed -e 's,.* \(.*\)/.*,\1,' | grep -v '^127')
15:48
ogra@laptop:~/devel/gutsy-ltsp$ echo $IP
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192.168.0.254 192.168.2.35
15:48
K_O-Gnom, ^^^
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<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: what?
15:50
<ogra>
that line gets you the IPs
15:51
there is no variable
15:51
<K_O-Gnom>
hmm whats with $DISPLAY ?
15:51
ther iss the host name but wit :0.0
15:51
<ogra>
for 4.2 that might work
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15:51
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: im on 4.2 ...
15:52
and i need the ip from the client where i actual loged in not all ..
15:52
<ogra>
so use it
15:52
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: ok ähm ho can i spit it that i only have the hostname without :0.0 ?
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<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: ok ähm ho can i spit it that i only have the hostname without :0.0 ?
15:54
s/ho/how
15:54
<ogra_>
echo $DISPLAY|cut -d':' -f1
15:55
<K_O-Gnom>
so $HOSTNAME_CLIENT=$DISPLAY|cut -d':' -f1 is that what i need?
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<K_O-Gnom>
? sound
15:57
<ogra_>
no
15:57
$HOSTNAME_CLIENT=$(echo $DISPLAY|cut -d':' -f1)
15:57
err
15:57
HOSTNAME_CLIENT=$(echo $DISPLAY|cut -d':' -f1)
15:57
now it works
15:57
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra_: great THANKS to you
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<K_O-Gnom>
how can i test that esd sound daemon is running?
16:03
<ogra_>
ps ax|grep esd :)
16:05
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra_: ther is only grep --colour=auto esd as output so i think its not running ..
16:06
<ogra_>
ps ax|grep esd |grep -v grep
16:06
that will suppress al grep's in the processlist
16:07
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra_: so nothing comes out ..
16:08* ogra_ has no clue how sound handling was implemented in the old days beyond knowing it used esd on the client
16:09
<K_O-Gnom>
the bootup dialog tells me unknown value for SOUND_DAEMON [ESD] some idea?
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<ogra_>
nope
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16:15
<ogra>
erm, do you really use ESD for the value ? that shouldnt be capitalized
16:21
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: yes i realized that ..
16:21
ogra: how i have to change that? $ESPEAKER="${SOUNDSERVER_HOST}:16001" that it workes?
16:22
<ogra>
no idea, really
16:22
<K_O-Gnom>
atm i only get :16001 in the $ESPEAKER var ..
16:22
<ogra>
ltsp5 uses alsa emulation on top of a pulseaudio stream ... ask me something about that :P
16:24
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: i only wanna know how i can fill the var $ESPEAKER with the content of $SOUNDSERVER_HOST ..
16:24
<ogra>
well SOUNDSERVER_HOST should be the clients IP i guess
16:25
<K_O-Gnom>
yes filled with your little script sniplet .
16:26
<ogra>
and indeed esd must run on the client and listen to tcp connections ...
16:27
<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: its all ok with esd i only whant to fix my script wich sets $ESPEAKER that dont work
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<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: k now works ther was an error while i set the host var ..
16:33
<vagrantc>
ogra: i think we should just call it X_CONF
16:33
ogra: but he didn't really change it, from what i could read
16:33
<ogra>
vagrantc, well, i think we should stop confusing people by changing var names :)
16:34
no, he implemented it in the new infrastructure with this name
16:34
but the old var should still work, i cant remember removing its code
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<ogra>
oh, crap
16:35
<vagrantc>
ogra: yes, and if you change it to XORG_CONF then it won't make sense if we switch away from X.org
16:35
<ogra>
indeed, its only a subfunction of configure_x
16:35
<vagrantc>
right.
16:36
<ogra>
i need to put that on my TODO ...
16:36
thanks for pointing
16:36
inputattach is also out of the loop there ...
16:36
<vagrantc>
but i think we should call it X_CONFIG_FILE or X_CONF or something like that ... and add the backwards compatibility in ltsp_config
16:36
<ogra>
well
16:37
<vagrantc>
seems like configure_x is no longer used at all, and all of the functionality was not moved into the other init script
16:37
<ogra>
the config script we use now can do all the old stuff did, apart from the override file and inputattach
16:38
plus serial touchpads (got that from Gadi yesterday)
16:38
whoever needs that ...
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<ogra>
btw, ldm2 should be pretty final now in gutsy ... feature freeze is in effect
16:39
i still havent played with the host selector yet ...
16:39
<vagrantc>
got it working with debian ... will try an experimental version sometime soon
16:40
upload to experimental, anyways
16:40
<ogra>
but all features we had in old ldm are there now and we finally have a failsafe xterm session hardcoded
16:40
so as long as xterm is in PATH users can get in ...
16:40
even without proper Xsession scripts
16:41* ogra also did the german translation for ldm2 today :)
16:41
<ogra>
sadly there are still some bugs in the gettext building stuff scott added
16:41
so translations arent used by the binary :(
16:42
but we'll sort that if scott is back from holiday
16:43
fgiraldeau is really hot on the loadbalancing topic ... we had to stop him from adding stuff we cant test yet :)
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<ogra>
gutsy+1 ldm should rock wrt loadbalancing
16:46* vagrantc continues to grumble about sabayon
16:46
<ogra>
ah, come on
16:46
lets ask scott first
16:46
he might have had his reasons
16:47
<vagrantc>
it's just spam thus far
16:47* ogra doesnt like to just remove without asking
16:47
<ogra>
well, its how many mails ? three ?
16:47
<vagrantc>
only about 20 in the past two days
16:47
<ogra>
20 ?
16:48
oh, i should look mor often in my bug folder :)
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<vagrantc>
where on earth is it defined that ltsp-drivers gets spam from sabayon?
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<ogra>
one member of ltsp-drivers subscribed ltsp-drivers as main bug contact for sabayon
16:49
you can set hat on the sabayon page in lp
16:49
"bugmail settings"
16:49
<vagrantc>
the ltsp-drivers pages doesn't have any references to sabayon
16:50
<ogra>
no
16:50
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sabayon/+subscribe
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<ogra>
vagrantc, feel free to unsub ... but tell sbalneav
16:52* vagrantc wonders what the "LTSPUbuntu" contact is
16:52
<ogra>
predates my time in ltsp
16:53
someone has set that u once
16:53
*up
16:54
https://launchpad.net/~ltspubuntu
16:54
heh, intresting
16:54
oh, and worst ... its an open team ...
16:54
anyone can join any time
16:55
scottie is in there
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<ogra>
oh, and me too ...
16:55* ogra is surprised
16:55* ogra wonders in which other clubs he is without knowing ...
16:56
<vagrantc>
those are always fun
16:56
<whiprush_>
I had a surprise visit from our local friends at Sun today ... wondering how our sunray labs were going.
16:56
They were dismayed to find LTSP labs in their place
16:56
<ogra>
LOL
16:56
<vagrantc>
who was it more surprising for ?
16:57
<whiprush_>
they didn't even know what ltsp was
16:57
I had to explain it to them
16:57
<ogra>
:(
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<ogra>
we need more agressive advertising ...
16:57
<whiprush_>
believe me, they're aware of what LTSP is now.
16:57
<ogra>
heh
16:59
<whiprush_>
It was great, they were like "So this comes built into the OS? And you have full vendor support?"
16:59
and I was like "Yep, it's awesome"
16:59
<ogra>
you have full vendor support on suns even ;)
16:59
<whiprush_>
yeah, but not on ubuntu
16:59
<ogra>
canonical offers support for niagara ;)
16:59
<whiprush_>
is ltsp on niagra supported? I didn't know
17:00
<ogra>
and i seeno reason why i386 clients shouldnt run on a niagara :)
17:00
ah, well, i think its only the server
17:00
so desktop packages get no official support ...
17:01
<whiprush_>
yeah I had to explain to them how huge LTSP is
17:01
they were quite surprised
17:01
<ogra>
well, that shows that we urgently need more publicity ....
17:02
<whiprush_>
indeed.
17:02
<ogra>
but i count on ubuntu marketing here :)
17:02
we'll make them aware
17:03
<whiprush_>
they took good notes
17:03
I told them they should just get rid of the proprietary server piece and make normal clients like everyone else
17:03
there's probably no reason opensolaris couldn't do ltsp5
17:03
<ogra>
great, if they have any free code to offer to get the rays running, send it to me :)
17:04
<whiprush_>
yeah, I have like a storage room full of the things
17:04
<ogra>
right
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17:04
<ogra>
and there might be many people like you
17:04
<whiprush_>
yep.
17:04
<ogra>
even these thingies are beautiful, they are to big for a paperweight
17:05
<whiprush_>
yeah, the new ones even come with dual-DVI and stuff
17:06
I rebooted a windows lab and then netbooted it into ltsp via our pxe menu
17:06
the ones with intel video
17:06
<ogra>
getting ltsp5 on nexenta should be trivial btw
17:06
<whiprush_>
and showed off the CAD working on the intel video
17:06
<ogra>
woah
17:07
<whiprush_>
that's when they were like ... "whoa"
17:07
<ogra>
i can imagine :)
17:07
<whiprush_>
they didn't know much about linux either.
17:08
Showed them all the java/eclipse/netbeans stuff
17:08
<ogra>
are they locked in a cellar at sun or something ?
17:08
<whiprush_>
apparently
17:08
<ogra>
weird
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<lns>
ogra, I'm not able to get a ss of the edubuntu user mgr...it's on their old server install. But if you're confident that it was a UI only change between dapper / feisty, should i file a bug to get some things added to it?
19:42
i can see that there's already an LDAP user management in progress
19:42
but as it is, the users and groups gnome management tool is badly broken as far as my teachers are concerned, since there's no search/sort ability
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