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Channel log from 23 July 2013   (all times are UTC)

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08:49
<Wiryono>
Hi guys, why do everytime I change a bit of lts.conf, I got TFTP open timeout ?
08:50
I use windows dhcp server, does this the cause ?
08:51
I do tftp thinserver.myhost.com it works from ubuntu, but when boot my client with pxe it get TFTP open timeout i _ i
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08:59
<Wiryono>
forget to mention i have two static ip address on the server, does this cause this problem ?
09:05
Ah I think I found the culprit
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09:21
<Wiryono>
hmm still get a timeout
09:22
how do I make sure it connect to the correct nic ?
09:23
I add the listentointerface in the sshd_config
09:23
still not enough
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10:42
<Eldaria>
Hi everyone, i'm trying to setup an ltsp server on an existing Ubuntu Server, but i'm having trouble with the nbd-server, would this be the correct place to ask for help?
10:43
Been trying to track down the reason for two days now, and I think i'm on track, but can't find anything when I search for the error.
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10:45
<workingcats>
Eldaria, yep you're probably correct here
10:49
<Eldaria>
Great. It was after I monitored the syslog, that I came across that the nbd-server starts, and then stop immediately. and in syslog it shows "nbd_server[721]: bind: Address already in use" I tried to change the(or actually add a) port in the configuration file, but same error.
10:52
<workingcats>
what does "netstat -anp | grep 10809" say?
10:53
<Eldaria>
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:10809 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 21884/nbd-server
10:53
hmm
10:53
<workingcats>
then nbd-server is already listening correctly
10:53
i have the same output
10:54
(well, plus an extra line for the established connection from the machine i'm sitting at)
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10:55
<Eldaria>
hmm, ok so I'm on the wrong track, I thought it was not able to start, and this is why I could not connect.
10:57
<Gremble>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients - hey all, is this a very up-to-date document? Is there something similar but focused on Debian?
10:57
"This page is specific to Ubuntu versions 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10" - RTFM Gremble :)
10:58
okay, so anything more recent available?
10:59
I'm on Debian Wheezy
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10:59
<Fenuks>
Gremble: It has not changed since 11.10, as far as I can tell
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<Eldaria>
is there a way to trace connection attempts to the nbd-server, to see if the client even tries to connect, and possibly why it fails?
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11:11
<Eldaria>
i'm quite sure it is the nbd part that is not working as it should, I disable the splash and see the boot sequence, I aslo see in the syslog, the pxe dhcp, and when the client request an IP. but see no indication in any logs that it tries to connect to the nbd-server. On the client it fails with "setting up nbd-client ... Error: socket failed: connection refused
11:15
<Fenuks>
Eldaria: What system?
11:15
<Eldaria>
Ubuntu 12.04
11:16
I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
11:18
I changed to amd64 for 64bit for the config feil and set the corrct ip range
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11:28
<wiryono>
How do I check tftp server log file
11:28
I keep getting tftp time out
11:28
<workingcats>
Eldaria, can you try booting one of the clients using e.g. a live cd, let it grab network config via DHCP as normal, then try to ping the server?
11:29
<wiryono>
the dhcp server can ping my ltsp server ...
11:31
<Eldaria>
@workingcats booting livecd
11:31
<wiryono>
let me try
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11:38
<wiryono>
I can ping normally
11:39
@workingcats > I can ping normally from live cd to tftp server
11:40
problem with the image
11:40
?
11:40
It works then I add some script that will be called by the user when they login manually using preferences > startup application
11:41
then it got tftp timeout ...
11:44
<workingcats>
Eldaria, check the logs on the server
11:44
wiryono, you mean you do this on the server or on the logged in client?
11:47
<wiryono>
on a new client machine I go to live cd and can ping ltsp server normally
11:48
1. I can boot ltsp from the client normally
11:48
2. then I tweak the ltsp server a bit to add some feature
11:48
3. client can no longer boot get TFTP open timeout
11:49
4. client boot to ubuntu live cd and can ping ltsp server
11:50
<Gremble>
Fenuks, thanks
11:51
<workingcats>
wiryono, so how exactly did you tweak it?
11:53
<wiryono>
I add a bash script to chroot /opt/ltsp/i365/usr/local/bin, then I set in the client ( after login to ltsp ) preferences > startup application to call that script
11:53
then I do ltsp-update-image, then restart the client and get the TFTP open timeout
11:53
so I remove the script from above folder rebuild the image and still has problem
11:54
<workingcats>
probably unrelated
11:54
<wiryono>
oh forget to mention I got two nic, I set the dhcp to go to the correct one but maybe I need to specify in the tftp configuration ?
11:54
<workingcats>
can you telnet to the tftp port from the ltsp client side?
11:54
<wiryono>
because there is a case like this before I just delete the script and it works :D, but not this time
11:54
from live cd ?
11:55
ltsp client now cannot boot .... so from live cd ?
11:55
<workingcats>
well anything that got its config via dhcp should be ok
11:56
<wiryono>
btw what is the log file for ltsp or tftp
11:57
ouch the port is 69 ?
11:57
can't telnet
11:57
iptables problem ...
12:02
<Eldaria>
workingcats: so I got it booted to a live cd, sorry for the delay, it could not boot from usb so had to make a cd. I can ping the server, as well as telnet to the nbd port 10809, server responded with "NBDMAGICIHAVEOPT"
12:03
tried to install ndb-client package, but it does not seem to want to load the module from a live cd.
12:05
<workingcats>
Eldaria, yeah just wanted to confirm that the server is reachable
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<Eldaria>
interesting, changing the "ndbroot=" in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.cfg/default changes the error. Initially it was ndbroot=:ltsp_amd64 tried to change it to something random, and it will give the same error. However changing it to the ip, gives a "insufficient information to set up nbd, quitting (nbdroot=192.168.1.10, host=192.168.1.10, name=, port=, nbd-device=/dev/nbd0)" changing it to ip:port gicves same error Socket failed
12:21
: Connection refused.
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<wiryono>
when you gave up solving, it suddenly works hahahah
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12:42
<alkisg>
Eldaria: what's the output of this? ls -lha /opt/ltsp/images
12:42
And of this: grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd*
12:42
==> to pastebin.com
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12:51
<Eldaria>
alkisg: http://pastebin.com/WJL8FAcH
12:52
<alkisg>
Eldaria: restore your pxeinux.cfg/default to what it was before,
12:53
and remove the quiet/splash part,
12:53
!quiet-splash
12:53
<ltsp>
quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
12:53
<alkisg>
...and add this instead: break=mount
12:53
Then, when you reboot the client, you'll get a busybox shell. There, run this:
12:53
!nbd-client
12:53
<ltsp>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
12:53
<alkisg>
Actually, you need the older version of the command line: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N ltsp_amd64 /dev/nbd0
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<Eldaria>
alkisg: ok, tried that, and get the socket failed: connection Refused
12:58
<alkisg>
Eldaria: did you put your server IP there?
12:58
nbd-client server-ip ....
12:58
etc etc
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13:01
<Eldaria>
yes ndb-client 192.168.1.10 -N ltsp_amd64 /dev/nbd0
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<alkisg>
Eldaria: it appears your nbd-server has crashed, first stop it, then restart it, then run the command again
13:15
sudo service nbd-server stop
13:15
sudo killall nbd-server
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ps aux|grep nbd (to verify it's not running)
13:15
sudo service nbd-server start
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<Eldaria>
alkisg: this is odd, tried to restart this time again, (tried it before, even the whole server) and now it boots, but can't login, but I will read up on that.
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13:33
<Eldaria>
so why did it not work before? this is so wierd.
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13:42
<Eldaria>
does ltsp use ssh for login?
13:45
hmm, this is going to be tricky, my ssh has password logins disabled, only key based or Google auth allowed.
13:47
<alkisg>
Eldaria: I think that your nbd-server had a race condition and it crashed
13:47
That started happenning around 12.04
13:47
After it happens, you need to restart it in order to accept connections again
13:47
LTSP does use ssh for logins, yeah
13:48
What is "google auth"? No password there?
13:49
<Eldaria>
Google auth, uses Google Authenticator token, so if you do not provide a key, you are required to enter a Goggle authenticator token additionally to your password
13:50
a hack i found, so I could log in even if I did not have my key with me. :-)
13:50
so server basically only allows ssh login vie key or token
13:51
would it be possible to configure ltsp to use a key stored on a usb for example?
13:51
don't really want to lower my security for ltsp. :-)
13:52
<alkisg>
You'd have to script it in order to support it, it doesn't allow that out of the box
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13:56
<Eldaria>
hehe, ok I will do some searching, I can't be the first one. would anyway be better since this is an old laptop I was planning on letting my kid use, and well she is 4 so typing a username/password is not really goinf to work anyway. ;-)
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13:56
<Eldaria>
alkisg: thanks for the help on getting it to boot at least. ;-)
13:56
<alkisg>
There's LDM_USERNAME/LDM_PASSWORD and LDM_AUTOLOGIN for kids
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<Eldaria>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AutoLoginFeatures
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<mar77i>
hello #ltsp. bear with me please, I'm trying to set up ltsp on ubuntu again and I'm not having the default config files in the packages. the packages, that is ltsp-server, ltsp-server-standalone and ltspfs
14:15
I may have too high expectations about packaging, but this is ...
14:15
whoa
14:15
that machine isn't even running a daemon
14:16
confuse me
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<mar77i>
oh well
15:05
I'm reproducing our test environment's config from files looked at in .bash_history :)
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15:41
<Hyperbyte>
mar77i, hi.
15:41
If you have a problem with LTSP, please be more elaborate. :-)
15:42
You're missing a config file? Which? And what daemon are you expecting to run?
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16:16
<Eldaria>
i'm trying to configure LDM_AUTOLOGIN, but it seems the client is ignoring what I put into the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf
16:17
do I need to lts-update-image to make it take effect?
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16:25
<ogra_>
Eldaria, no, but you need a proper [default} section at the top, else the file wont be parsed, also are your clients actually amd64 ?
16:25
(else you would put it in the i386 subdir)
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<Eldaria>
ogra_: Well, they don't really 'need' to be amd64 it is an amd and it is 64bit capable. ;-) but I was thinking this could be the reason.
16:30
<ogra_>
well, do they use the and amd64 image currently ?
16:30
<Eldaria>
yes, I only have a amd64 image
16:31
<ogra_>
the lts.conf simply needs to be in the matching tftp dir for the image you use
16:35
<Eldaria>
hmm, it seems to ignore what I put in there, tried some other settings just to see, added SOUND=False to the [Default] but after restartint client there is still sound.
16:36
<ogra_>
check the server logs, you should see whats requested and sent via tftp
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<Eldaria>
ogra_: i'm monitoring (tail -f) syslog, auth.log, any other log I should watch, since I don't see any tftp traffic in those, only the "client does not accept optins"
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<ogra_>
Eldaria, syslog should suffice usually
16:57
(at least on a recent ubuntu almost everything is pushed there)
16:59
<Hyperbyte>
Eldaria, run: getltscfg -a in a local xterm
16:59
!localxterm
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<ltsp>
localxterm: Any applications that you launch on a thin client actually runs on the server, not on the client itself. If you want to open a program on the client locally, you can type 'ltsp-localapps <program>' in a run dialog or in a terminal. For example, 'ltsp-localapps xterm' to open a terminal running on the client.
17:00* ogra_ has forgotten all that magic over the years ... :P
17:00
<Hyperbyte>
getltscfg -a will show the config that the client actually loaded.
17:00
ogra_, no worries. :)
17:01
Happens to the best of us. ;-)
17:02
Eldaria, also, pastebin your lts.conf
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<Eldaria>
Hyperbyte: ok, the getltscfg -a in a local xterm returned nothing, pastebin of log http://pastebin.com/HQvDrtTb pastebin of lts.config: http://pastebin.com/0XcmRYw3
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<Hyperbyte>
lts.config?
17:24
lts.conf you mean?
17:24
pastebin the output of ls -al /var/lib/tftpboot/amd64/
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<Eldaria>
soory yes conf
17:33
Hyberbyte: http://pastebin.com/RZqBuqYH
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<Eldaria>
Hyperbyte: Hmm, misspelled your nick.
17:42
Trying to put my daughter in bed at the same time as troubleshooting, reading documentation, forums, chatting.
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<Hyperbyte>
Eldaria, that's life. I'm doing lots of stuff too. :)
18:20
Eldaria, what distribution/version is this?
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