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Channel log from 25 August 2011   (all times are UTC)

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09:50
<muppis>
Do I hit my head to wall if I install totem-plugin for local Firefox?
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10:02
<Hyperbyte>
muppis: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OI_-mOb8_uc/SYDguc2aHyI/AAAAAAAAA_8/WbFuWDvYbaQ/s400/stress_reduction_kit.jpg
10:03
<alkisg>
bhh? BuHaHa... :D
10:05
<muppis>
Thanks, I needed that. :)
10:06
So the problem is that qt videoclips doesn't work in local FF:
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10:07* alkisg wonders if, installing a whole fat chroot, and then only using it for thin clients + localapps, would help people in such cases
10:10
<muppis>
Maybe.
10:11
Can be this done just by installing ubuntu-desktop to chroot or does it brake everything?
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11:47
<bakytn_>
guys, is it wise to use UseStgraberPPA ? according to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UseStgraberPPA
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11:49
<alkisg>
bakytn_: i don't think stgraber maintains a ppa anymore, please delete that wiki page or at least mention it there
11:49
<bakytn_>
alkisg, ok doing this
11:49
<alkisg>
*maintains an ltsp ppa, at least
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11:55
<bakytn_>
has anybody tried to use oneiric packages for Natty? Worked? :D
11:56
I mean the LTSP related packages
11:56
mm, I see that cluster realted packages have the same version numbers
11:57* bakytn_ still fighting with slow UI responsivness in cluster environment
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12:09
<mgariepy>
bakytn_, do you have LDM_DIRECTX set to true in ltsp-control ?
12:10
<alkisg>
bakytn_: there's a daily build ltsp ppa
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<bakytn_>
mgariepy, yes
12:25
mgariepy, hello sir! I also debugged it with tcpdump
12:25
now I am going to work place and continue my fight
12:25
need to run getltsconf -a in the client's xterm and check
12:27
<mario5>
Hey out there, may anybody help me whit an problem.  issue: mounting local/dev/ (USB-Flashdisk) on ltsp --- error while testing ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 192.168.0.254 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add" <--- my data gives: Authentication failed. Any Idea.
12:28
<bakytn_>
also quick question, I gave 30Gb of Ram to root node :D I think this is overkill, I should rather give more ram to app servers right?
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<bakytn_>
mario5 are you mounting by hand? not using udev?
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12:34
<mgariepy>
bakytn_, depending how much thin client you have i guess this is way overkill
12:35
i have a 4500 thin client deployment and i don't need that much memory on my ltsp-root server
12:35
<bakytn_>
mgariepy, about 100 clients, root node is just a load balancer..so I can give 4 GB without any problems and increase number of app server and give more ram to them.
12:35
<mario5>
@bakynt mounting by udev checklist: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DebugLocalDev done.
12:36
<bakytn_>
mgariepy, got it. Thank you :D
12:36
<mgariepy>
bakytn_, yeah that would be ok with 4GB
12:36
what cpu do you have on your appserv ?
12:37
<bakytn_>
mgariepy, Intel Xeon 2.8Ghz (it's a blade server actually)
12:37
mgariepy, a huge blade server all the services are on that blade server
12:37
mgariepy, but I will keep another 2 app servers on another physical blade server
12:37
<mgariepy>
how many core total for the appserv ?
12:37
kk
12:37
<bakytn_>
mgariepy, I gave 2 core per each app server
12:38
*2 cores
12:38
using GlusterFS for a NAS
12:38
and SAMBA4 for authentication
12:39
only two things killing me at the moment :D 1) CANON LBP printers 2) UI responsiveness
12:40
<mgariepy>
you are using gnome-ui without compiz ?
12:40
<bakytn_>
mgariepy, compiz was purged..apt-get remove compiz
12:40
mgariepy, compiz was purged..apt-get purge compiz
12:40
:D
12:40
<mgariepy>
ok
12:40
<alkisg>
bakytn_: that's not the actual package for compiz
12:40
<bakytn_>
interesting..and annoying. But I will win this fight
12:41
<alkisg>
It's compiz-core
12:41
<bakytn_>
alkisg, but anyway...it worked fine on a standalone server when I was testing
12:41
alkisg, but I will purge it too :D
12:41
<alkisg>
No need...
12:41
!disable-compiz
12:41
<ltsp>
alkisg: disable-compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity.
12:41
<bakytn_>
alkisg, thanks! written down.
12:42
<mgariepy>
LDM_SESSION=gnome-session --session=2d-gnome
12:42
but you will need an updated package for ltsp in natty
12:43
<bakytn_>
mgariepy, you mean backported from oneiric?
12:44
<mgariepy>
no
12:44
<bakytn_>
mgariepy, before I installed to natty I fully upgraded it (of course).You mean that it doesn't support LDM_SESSION?
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12:44
<alkisg>
!learn daily-builds as you can find untested daily builds for Ubuntu LTSP in https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/+archive/daily
12:44
<ltsp>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
12:44
<mgariepy>
LDM_SESSION in the natty package is buggy
12:44
<mario5>
sorry, @bakytn_ mounting by udev,
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12:45
<mgariepy>
daily build won't work either i think since the change for nbd named images is in the trunk
12:45
<alkisg>
mgariepy: that's not on by default, afaik... is it?
12:45
I tried it on my lucid box and it worked
12:45
<mgariepy>
ho
12:45
i didn't knew
12:46
that's nice then :)
12:46
<alkisg>
But I tested 1 month ago, I don't know if anything's changed since then
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12:48
<mgariepy>
revno: 1853, timestamp: Fri 2011-07-08 15:40:01 +0200
12:49
<alkisg>
I'm using 5.2.8-0ubuntu3~ppa2-bzr1859-ex1779
12:50
(excluding 1779, the udhcp change which isn't available in lucid)
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<alkisg>
Until 1859 it works fine without named-based exports as the default in my lucid...
12:51
<mgariepy>
great then :)
12:54
<alkisg>
...although something seems to have happened with the revision numbers, somehow they've been changed
12:54
Using the trunk from 2011-07-20 anyway
12:55
<mgariepy>
bakytn_, if you want to use a ppa. you can use revolution-linux ppa on launchpad
12:59
<bakytn_>
what is a TIMEOUT option in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/getltscfg-cluster.conf ?
12:59
it's 2 by default
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<mgariepy>
it's the timeout to get the configuration
13:00
2 seconds should be enough but you can set it higher than this
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<shawnp0wers>
Holy buttspank on toast. After days of trying to modify the global Gnome menu, adding a custom launcher for rdesktop, I happened across this beauty: http://www.breaknenter.org/2010/10/share-menus-between-users-in-ubuntu/
13:05
If you need to add a custom launcher to the menu for all users, it's dead simple. I'm ashamed I didn't know this earlier.
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<mgariepy>
shawnp0wers, didn't edubuntu-menu-editor works?
13:09
<shawnp0wers>
No, not even remotely.
13:10
It only rearranges existing menus, you can't add menu items
13:10
At least not that I could find.
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13:12
<reuss_>
hi, I am unable to login on my ltsp client after changing the host network configuration. What did I nuked?
13:12
<Appiah>
did you ltsp-update-image and ltsp-update-sshkeys ?
13:13
maybe just the later is required
13:13
<reuss_>
I get a "server response, restarting" message
13:13
appiah: thanks, I am trying it
13:13
<Appiah>
"If you change the IP data after you have done the initial setup, please run the command sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys to make the ssh server aware of the change." from the wiki
13:13
<alkisg>
!learn ltsp-update-sshkeys as If you changed your server IP, you need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys, and if you're using NBD (Ubuntu) you also need ltsp-update-image afterwards
13:13
<ltsp>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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<shawnp0wers>
reuss_: that actually allows the rsyncing of chroots too, which saves tons of time.
13:14
if you have multiple servers
13:14
ie, rsync, then ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image
13:14
<Appiah>
alkisg: gj!
13:15
<shawnp0wers>
(I always ltsp-update-kernels too, not usually required, but never hurts)
13:18
<reuss_>
alkisg, appiah, shanp0wers: thanks a lot, you did it. I am very pleased by the great help on that channel!
13:19
<mario5>
May anybody help me whit an problem.  issue: mounting local/dev/ (USB-Flashdisk) on ltsp --- mountig via udev --- error while testing ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 192.168.0.254 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add" <--- my data gives: Authentication failed. Any Idea.
13:20
<alkisg>
mario5: distro/version?
13:22
<mario5>
ubuntu 10.10 ltsp-server 5.2.4-0ubuntu6
13:23
<alkisg>
!SCREEN_02
13:23
<ltsp>
alkisg: SCREEN_02: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN.
13:24
<alkisg>
mario5: get a root local shell to better troubleshoot the problem
13:25
<mario5>
ssh acces to ltsp client arranged, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DebugLocalDev done and all right.
13:27
<alkisg>
OK, if you have ssh access to the client... can you manually mount the usb stick?
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<alkisg>
Or, what happens when you just plug it? What's the output of udevadm monitor?
13:27
That wiki page is a bit outdated
13:28
mario5: so, start with plugging stick and seeing the output of `mount`, from ssh
13:29
<mario5>
alkisg: done ... stick is mounted
13:29
<alkisg>
Automatically? Or manually?
13:30
<mario5>
alkisg: Automatically
13:30
<alkisg>
What file system it is?
13:30
Paste the output of `mount | grep /dev/sd`
13:30
<mario5>
vfat / fat32
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<mario5>
alkisg: none
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<alkisg>
mario5: erm, then why did you say it was mounted? It's not a /dev/sd* device?
13:33
mario5: please use the pastebin to paste large text amounts, not PMs
13:34
!pastebin
13:34
<ltsp>
alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here..
13:34
<alkisg>
Based on what you pasted, the stick isn't mounted at all
13:34
But one minute ago you said it was automounted
13:34
Which of those is true?
13:34
(04:28:41 μμ) alkisg: mario5: so, start with plugging stick and seeing the output of `mount`, from ssh
13:34
(04:29:28 μμ) mario5: alkisg: done ... stick is mounted
13:34
(04:29:42 μμ) alkisg: Automatically? Or manually?
13:34
(04:30:05 μμ) mario5: alkisg: Automatically
13:35
Should I assume that the above were wrong, and that the stick is not mounted?
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<mario5>
mount gives me this sting about the stick: ltspfs on /media/root/usbdisk-sdb1 type fuse.ltspfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
13:38
<alkisg>
mario5: that wasn't in the text you send me in the PM, what did you do to get it?
13:39
<mario5>
mount ther are many more lines ..
13:39
<alkisg>
OK let's start over
13:39
Before ltspfs starts working, your thin client needs to see the usb stick, to mount it
13:39
The grep command above said that your stick wasn't mounted
13:40
<mario5>
right
13:40
<alkisg>
So, to clear things up, paste the whole "/proc/mounts" file of the client, to pastebin
13:40
And give us the URL for your paste
13:42
<mario5>
http://pastebin.com/MaqgX3At
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<alkisg>
mario5: and the stick is currently plugged in? what's the output of `blkid` ?
13:44
<mario5>
http://pastebin.com/VuMFvhBr
13:45
<alkisg>
mario5: so, the stick isn't being mounted, and you manually ran those 2 ltspfs commands, right?
13:46
They didn't happen automatically, you ran them while following the wiki, correct?
13:47
<mario5>
i tried to ran the wiki post: ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_2264_149.201.76.6 149.201.76.6 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add"
13:47
the output is: Authentication failed.
13:48
<alkisg>
OK. Now, from ssh, try: mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt; ls
13:48
Do you see your stick files/
13:48
?
13:48
And, any warnings?
13:49
<dgroos>
Good Morning.
13:49
<alkisg>
Howdy dgroos
13:50
<dgroos>
alkisg: Pretty good, and you?
13:51
<mario5>
good morning, @alkisg no fiels. no warnings.
13:51
<alkisg>
dgroos, fine - a bit of work, a bit of hanging around here... waiting for the afternoon to come :)
13:51
<dgroos>
Good morning mario5
13:51
<alkisg>
mario5: the usb stick is empty? can you create a folder, e.g. "mkdir /mnt/folder" ?
13:52
<dgroos>
a bit? :D
13:52
On how many channels are you simultaneously helping some right now? ;)
13:53
<alkisg>
Nah, just here - while waiting for some oneiric installation to finish, and then back to work... :_/
13:53
<mario5>
alkisg: done .. this partion was empty
13:54
<alkisg>
mario5: ah I just noticed that you have 2 partitions there, sorry
13:54
But why sdb1 and sdb4, instead of sdb2?
13:54
Try those: umount /mnt
13:54
fdisk /dev/sdb
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And see if fdisk complains about your stick partition order
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<mario5>
/dev/sdb1 3 7712 7895040 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
13:57
/dev/sdb4 * 1 2 2032 eb BeOS fs
13:58
<alkisg>
...beos?!
13:58
And yeah, they're completely upside down
13:58
Can you reformat the stick?
13:59
<mario5>
shure .. but i think sdb1 shoud work, ?
14:00
<alkisg>
Probably... if you want to troubleshoot why a semi-broken stick doesn't semi-work though.... I'm not your man, /me never uses localdevs...
14:00
<mario5>
i'll go to reformate ...
14:01
<alkisg>
Delete both partitions with gparted, and create 1 single fat32 partition
14:01
Mark it lba + bootable
14:02
<Blinny>
Anyone know how to enable compiz for a single user/workstation off the top of your head? Call me crazy, but I like having transparent terminal windows so I can see background things like logs or IRC while programming.
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<alkisg>
Blinny: how did you disable compiz?
14:03
<Blinny>
alkisg: using the command in !disable_compiz
14:03
<alkisg>
Blinny: that puts it in the mandatory settings, so you can't reenable it for anyone
14:03
You'd need to move it to the default settings, or completely, and then reenable compiz for that user
14:04
<Blinny>
Ah hA!
14:04
<alkisg>
Blinny: if all your users logged in once since you disabled compiz, they got the setting
14:04
<Blinny>
!disable_compiz
14:04
<ltsp>
Blinny: disable_compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity.
14:04
<alkisg>
So you can delete the setting now (restore_compiz)
14:04
And then from your "effects" tab in the settings, you can enable compiz for you
14:04
<Blinny>
Understood. Thank you.
14:05
<alkisg>
!restore_compiz
14:05
<ltsp>
alkisg: restore_compiz: if you disabled compiz by running the command suggested by the !compiz factoid, and you want to revert the change, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --recursive-unset /desktop/gnome/session/required_components.
14:05
<Blinny>
!enable_compiz
14:05
<ltsp>
Blinny: Error: "enable_compiz" is not a valid command.
14:06
<dgroos>
I'm trying to get a classroom of dell optiplex gx270 to auto pie boot. I've enabled all that the Dell help pages say to enable, put things in the correct order, but… still won't auto boot.
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<dgroos>
anyone successful with this?
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<dgroos>
*pxe
14:08
<Blinny>
Thank you alkisg
14:09
dgroos: What are they doing?
14:10
<dgroos>
Blinny: When I boot the client, it goes through normal bios, tries to boot, then can't and says hit F1 to try again, F2 to boot.
14:11
<Blinny>
dgroos: any messages about media connected / disconnected? When I boot my dells I turn everything off except the NIC.
14:11
dgroos: Also, in the dell bios you have to turn the NIC to 'On w/ MBA', not just 'On'
14:12
<dgroos>
If I hit F12 during bios I see that "Normal" is always in the first position, Integrated NIC is in the second--haven't been able to change that.
14:13
<mario5>
alkisg: disk refomated, and newly plugedin
14:13
<dgroos>
Blinny: I've turned off all the devices except the nic and put the nic in position number 1...
14:13
<alkisg>
mario5: And current output of `fdisk -l /dev/sdb` ?
14:13
<Blinny>
Are you sure the NIC is good? I've had my GX110 NICs go wonky and require a card.
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<dgroos>
…and in bios I selected the Integrated NIC w/pxe (didn't see w/MBA but I'll check that).
14:14
<Blinny>
Maybe yours uses different language.
14:15
<mario5>
now its sdc http://pastebin.com/6ssch8QH
14:16
<dgroos>
If I select F12, then option #2 (which is Integrated NIC) the client boots w/PXE perfectly so not thinking this is a NIC issue--also, same on many (if not all) of these 'new' computers.
14:17
hmmm… maybe I'll disconnect the power and remove the battery for a bit… (shot in the dark :))
14:17
<Blinny>
What is option 1?
14:17
Oh. 'Normal'
14:17
<dgroos>
Option 1 is "Normal". I can't seem to get that to change
14:17
right.
14:18
<Blinny>
That is pretty odd.
14:18
<dgroos>
Is this when one hits a CMOS button or something?
14:18
<Blinny>
And pretty dell-specific. I'm sorry but I haven't hit that one myself.
14:19
BRB
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<dgroos>
I was wondering about updating to a newer driver, but it says to install it you either use windows or dos. Is there another way I wonder?
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<mario5>
alkisg?
14:31
<alkisg>
bbl
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<Blinny>
!disable_compiz
14:32
<ltsp>
Blinny: disable_compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity.
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<bakytn>
OMG I don't know what happened. I just started my cluster environment. and things are fast :D
14:44
just came to my workplace and started my machines.
14:44
(:
15:07
guys! when client loads. it first show ltsp-client-info why? can't it just pick his app server and show LDM directly?
15:07
I'm talking about cluster setup of course
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<mgariepy>
bakytn, because your thin client is in the root node directly
15:20
create another node and move your thin client to it and it won't bother you again ! ;)
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<bakytn>
mgariepy, aaaa got it!!!
15:26
by the way guys, FreeRDP 1.0 is going to be released in a week or two with RemoteApp support :D
15:26
will test it today, will see how it is better than rdesktop 1.7 + SeamlessRDP
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<markit>
bakytn: mm never heard about FreeRDP, is much better than rdesktop?
15:29
<bakytn>
mgariepy, it's a fork, as they say it's being very actively developed and has improvements (rdesktop is not very active)
15:30
mgariepy, I am subscirbed to their mailing list and FreeRDP 1.0 contain many cool features and RemoteApp is one of them
15:30
*contains
15:31
<markit>
bakytn: I see (I'm markit and not mgariepy , mind the tab completion ;)
15:31
<bakytn>
markit, ah..lol, yes.
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<bakytn>
ok, the last fight is the fight versus Canon LBP printers (so hard to get them working lol)
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<tastle73>
anybody have experience with ELO touchscreens?
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17:59
<Gadi>
mgariepy: do you know of a bug with ltsp-cluster where the client will receive an LDM_SESSION from the control center but then use "default" (basically ignoring it)
18:00
mgariepy: in particular this is with autologin
18:00
perhaps the bug is in ldm not sourcing the vars properly....
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18:05
<mgariepy>
Gadi, yes
18:05
the bug is the comparaison of the string
18:05
a recent ldm fix this
18:06
<Gadi>
ah ok
18:06
I am fixing it by simply sourcing the cached lts.conf file in an X00-* file in rc.d
18:07
do you recall where your fix was made?
18:07
<mgariepy>
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ldm-trunk/revision/1383
18:08
stephane tries to compate the strings with "str1" == "str2" but it needed g_strcomp0
18:08
<Gadi>
got it
18:09
I am guessing that ldm is not backported to lucid
18:09
let me see what version I have here
18:09
<stgraber>
Gadi: it's
18:09
Gadi: well, sorta
18:09
Gadi: https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/+archive/daily
18:09
<mgariepy>
haha :)
18:10
!daily build
18:10
<ltsp>
mgariepy: I do not know about 'daily build', but I do know about these similar topics: 'daily-builds'
18:10
<mgariepy>
!daily-builds
18:10
<ltsp>
mgariepy: daily-builds: you can find untested daily builds for Ubuntu LTSP in https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/+archive/daily.
18:10
<Gadi>
heh
18:10
nice
18:11
<stgraber>
Gadi: it's untested though and almost certain ltsp won't boot on lucid, ldm and ltspfs should be fine though
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18:11
<bakytn>
clear
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18:47
<Hyperbyte>
bakytn: crystal
18:48
<bakytn>
Hyperbyte, hi, I wanted to type /clear
19:02
<tastle73>
anyboy had success with touchscreens in LTSP5?
19:17
<mnemoc>
hi, does PRINTER_0_NAME still exist? it's not mentioned in http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/lts.conf.5.html ... does it setup a local cups server or it's black magic straight into the cups client?
19:18
s/does it/does PRINTER_0_DEVICE/
19:23* _UsUrPeR_ tips his hat
19:24
<_UsUrPeR_>
I am having a problem with alsa/pulse on clients
19:25
when I set sound levels with asound.conf in /var/lib/alsa on the client image, pulse audio seems to be taking precedence and lowering master volume
19:25
Is there a way to keep pulse audio from changing alsa sound output settings?
19:26
technically, pulse is not changing the sound settings. It apperas to be overriding them
19:26
gadi: ping? ^^
19:27
<Gadi>
_UsUrPeR_: do you need pulse?
19:27
you can set SOUND=False
19:27
<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: no. I would prefer it does not rear it's ugly head
19:27
<Gadi>
so, set SOUND=False in lts.conf
19:27
<_UsUrPeR_>
strangely enough, putting sound=false in lts.conf stops sound from working all together
19:27
<Gadi>
then you do need pulse
19:27
:)
19:28* _UsUrPeR_ shakes his fist at pulse
19:28
<_UsUrPeR_>
strangely enough, I am running the soft phone as a local app
19:28
<Gadi>
anyway, the volumes are set with a call to configure_sound_volume
19:28
which is in /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
19:28
<_UsUrPeR_>
ORLY
19:28
that's an lts.conf setting?
19:28
<Gadi>
and the call to it is in /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-*
19:29
yeah
19:29
I forget if we added a way to not have it set
19:29
because by default it uses 90% volume
19:29
iirc
19:29
<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: care to explain the /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common file? I am not seeing it in existence over here
19:29
<bakytn>
interestingly, when you scroll the web page in Firefox in thin client it works very fast and smooth. WHile in Chrome it's jerky
19:30
<Gadi>
maybe my brain is not working
19:30
let me see
19:30
<_UsUrPeR_>
woop nm
19:30
chroot :)
19:31
<Gadi>
ah
19:31
its there right?
19:31
<_UsUrPeR_>
ok, see, the weird part is: the volume setting for pulse audio should be at 90%
19:31
you are right
19:32
however, it's setting itself at, like, 10%
19:32
<Gadi>
well, it will try for 90%
19:32
sometimes audio drivers do weird things
19:32
but, anyway, try taking out the call to it in /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core
19:32
<_UsUrPeR_>
stranger still: using ltsp-localapps alsamixergui, I can turn it back up to 100% no problem
19:33
<Gadi>
well, thats not strange
19:33
thats good
19:33
:)
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19:33* Gadi applauds Hyperbyte's reference to a few good men, btw
19:33
<_UsUrPeR_>
that's great. except for it needs to be set the first time sot hat users don't have to manually adjust it every time a client boots
19:34
<Gadi>
right
19:34
well, we have two things that compete
19:34
our setting of audio
19:34
and the usual setting of audio
19:34
:)
19:34
so, disable ours
19:34
<_UsUrPeR_>
agreed. I wouldn't even be using alsamixer at all, except for it's required to shut off sound output through our client's PC speaker
19:34
<Gadi>
and see what you get
19:35
thats silly
19:35
there's a driver you can blacklist for that
19:35
:)
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19:36
<_UsUrPeR_>
ok, so in blacklist.conf...
19:36
<Gadi>
does he have pcspkr loaded on the client?
19:36
(in lsmod)
19:36
<_UsUrPeR_>
lsmod |grep speaker on client -- no results
19:37
<Gadi>
lsmod|grep pcspkr
19:37
oh - what am I saying - if alsamixer turns it off, then it is going through the soundcard
19:37
nm
19:37
what channel is it that you have to turn off?
19:38
<_UsUrPeR_>
there's two channels actually
19:38
Master Front (sound output from the client), and Mic (sound output from the mic is echoed through the speakers)
19:39
both result in a frustrating phone conversation if left enabled :)
19:39
I already suggested that the client be put between two pillows, but the customer didn't like that at all ;)
19:40
<Gadi>
so set this:
19:41
MASTER_FRONT_VOLUME = 0
19:41
MIC_VOLUME = 0
19:41
in lts.conf
19:41
done
19:42
<_UsUrPeR_>
should I remove the asound.conf?
19:42
<Gadi>
probably
19:43
<_UsUrPeR_>
rebuilding image now
19:43
will the changes be evident in alsamixer?
19:43
or is this a pulse thing?
19:43
for the record, pulse only had two settings: master and mic
19:44
<Gadi>
alsamixer should see it
19:44
<_UsUrPeR_>
neither of these had to do with the PC speakers
19:44
ok
19:44
rebooting
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19:46
<_UsUrPeR_>
BY ODIN'S BEARD IT APPEARS TO HAVE WORKED!
19:46* _UsUrPeR_ tests out sound now
19:46
<Gadi>
lol
19:46
good thing we coded it that way
19:46
brb
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<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi: ok, so you are correct. It *APPEARS* that it worked, looking at the alsamixer settings
19:49
wait. this is strange
19:53
ok, looking better
19:55
Gadi: now there are two volume controls for headphone and PMC that need to be increased. I just changed the lts.conf (HEADPHONE_VOLUME = 100, MIC_VOLUME = 100) no dice
19:56
<Gadi>
PMC?
19:56
is that the name of the channel?
19:57
you need the exact channel names
19:57
so: PMC_VOLUME
19:57
for example
19:57
<_UsUrPeR_>
err I am sorry -- PCM_VOLUME
19:57
mis-type
19:58
<Gadi>
then, PCM_VOLUME
19:58
<_UsUrPeR_>
so HEADPHONE_VOLUME = 100 and PCM_VOLUME = 100
19:58
I have those both set in lts.conf, but no results
19:58
<Gadi>
alternatively, you can simply set:
19:58
VOLUME = 100
19:58
MASTER_FRONT_VOLUME = 0
19:58
<_UsUrPeR_>
mmmhmm
19:58
lemme try that
19:58
<Gadi>
MIC_VOLUME = 0
19:59
then any channel other than the two you set to 0 will be 100
19:59
<_UsUrPeR_>
ok cool
19:59
<Gadi>
(VOLUME is the default for all channels)
19:59
<_UsUrPeR_>
gotcha
19:59
I hope this turns the volume to "facecrush"
20:02
gadi: hmm. bummer. the mic and front speaker are set to 0 (good. Everything else is set to 100 (good), but "Headphone, PCM, and Front are all set to defauls (bad :/)
20:02
<Gadi>
hmm
20:03
that is odd
20:03
can you get a shell on the client?
20:03
<_UsUrPeR_>
yes I can
20:03
I am in it now
20:03
as root
20:03
<Gadi>
great
20:04
do: . /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
20:04
then: export HEADPHONE_VOLUME=100
20:04
then: configure_sound_volume
20:04
and check the sound
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20:05
<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: that worked
20:05
<Gadi>
hmm
20:05
then, it should have worked on boot too
20:05
you must have something else that is changing it
20:05
maybe after you log in?
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20:06
<_UsUrPeR_>
:C
20:06
running iceWM, btw
20:06
<Gadi>
how about this:
20:06
<_UsUrPeR_>
not too much installed in the way of things that change volume at the moment
20:06
<Gadi>
. /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config
20:06
env|grep VOLUME
20:06
oops
20:07
yeah
20:07
that's what I meant
20:07
<_UsUrPeR_>
(for the record, gnome is not installed on here at all
20:07
)
20:07
<Gadi>
no worries
20:08
<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi, ok. env |grep volume shows the following
20:08
MASTER_FRONT_VOLUME=0, VOLUME=100, MIC_VOLUME=0
20:10
<Gadi>
ok, now do: configure_sound_volume
20:10
and check again
20:10
(i mean check the levels)
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20:12
<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi: configure_sound_volume, for some reason, is no longer in path
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20:13
<Gadi>
. /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
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20:13
<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: ok, now that worked
20:14
Gadi: these volume levels are set prior to and post-login. Not sure what would set them at this point.
20:16
works great though
20:17
should I just set up a script in xinitrc.d or something?
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20:25* _UsUrPeR_ just makes a script
20:34
<Gadi>
sorry - fire needing attention
20:34
what do you mean it is set pre-/post- login?
20:34
you must have added a script somewhere
20:35
because volumes are by default only set on boot
20:35
<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi: ok, the pre/post comment. You are saying somehow the client is changing it's volume after it's been set
20:35
I am saying it occurs before xinitrc.d is executed
20:35
that's all
20:38
gadi: no big deal. I just put together a script in xinitrc.d on the client image which runs configure_sound_volume . It works fine
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21:00
<mnemoc>
can anyone enlighten me about local printers? I can't get PRINTER_n_* do anything :-/
21:03
<abeehc_>
i have a couple working
21:04
usb at least http://pastebin.com/ptdjqGqu
21:04
ltsp5
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<mnemoc>
abeehc_: beside installing `cups`, what did you need to get it detected? btw, my printer is parallel and need it simply raw for some apps running in doxemu
21:16
dosemu*
21:18
<abeehc_>
well I have cups on the server but i don't think that's strictly neccesary
21:18
OH what version of distro/ltsp are you using
21:18
i forgot sometimes the client chroot doesn't get some python serial package that's needed
21:19
but ultimately that stanza in lts.conf causes a python script in the client chroot to run and listen on 9100 like a normal jetdirect printer
21:20
so if you have your client root acocunt unlcoked you can test with it booted
21:20
the result of that usb thing on my client is /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/jetpipe -b 9600 -y 8 -p none -x /dev/usb/lp0 9100
21:21
so lookin at that script and trying to run it is where you'd wanna look.. there's no need for cups anywhere you could add the driver to windows or whatever
21:21
i'm not so familiar with dosemu and your use to guess how that plays for you
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<mnemoc>
abeehc_: I have whatever is in ubuntu 11.04...
21:27
dosemu just triggers lpr -PFoo with a text file that goes raw to the printer
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<abeehc_>
word well look at that python script i think it's the pertinent part even in 11.04
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<mnemoc>
/usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/jetpipe -b 9600 -y 8 -p none -x /dev/lp0 9100 returned nothing and $? 0
21:29
is that good?
21:30
<abeehc_>
it'll background
21:30
that's good i think it means you have that python-serial package
21:30
is /dev/lp0 accurate in your case?
21:32
<mnemoc>
yes, ls > /dev/lp0 on a local shell works
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<abeehc_>
good stuff
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<abeehc_>
if you do "ps aux|grep jetpipe" you should see the python script running
21:33
<mnemoc>
yes
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<abeehc_>
at which point you can print over the network to port 9100
21:33
again where dosemu fits i dunno
21:35
in my case once that script's running, i install a printer on my cups server (actually that's not my ltsp server)
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<mnemoc>
I kind of fall on the same problem... I local cups to recognize the printer
21:35
<abeehc_>
is dosemu running locally?
21:35
<mnemoc>
yes
21:35
<abeehc_>
then i don't see why you'd need this script, nor cups
21:36
<mnemoc>
good point... I'll check If I can give dosemu the dev directly
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<abeehc_>
word i did a quick google for docs along that line and came up with nothing
21:36
but yeah i'd imagine you just tell dosemu /dev/lp0 provided you don't need some complicated driver
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<mnemoc>
abeehc_: so PRINTER_n_* sets up this jetpipe daemon?
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<abeehc_>
yeah exactly
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there's nothin more too it
21:42
just a way to expose the printer on a client over the network without installing cups i guess you'd say
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<mnemoc>
:D
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<mnemoc>
btw, can one use this jetpipe tool with raw printers?
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(dot matrix)
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<abeehc_>
yeah very much so i'd think; i'd guess you could almost print with netcat in that case
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<mnemoc>
neat :)
22:02
<abeehc_>
but installing on a print server be it cups or windows you just select the generic print driver or whatever and it should work well
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more advanced printers are the pain in that you need binary crap drivers i think
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then again anyone on your lan could print with netcat :)
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<abeehc_>
i guess that's the case with that script nomatter what printer you have behind it so nevermind
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<mnemoc>
:)
22:10
awesome, it's working like a charm
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<abeehc_>
good stuff glad to help
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<mnemoc>
thanks a lot :)
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<TheMatrix3000>
anyone here good at bash scriptiong
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scripting*?
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