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muppis: oh you know it
if one was looking to virtualize their LTSP server, for production use, would you suggest KVM or Xen?
or VMware ESXI, I guess.
robehend1, if there something else jobs to do on host, then kvm. Else I suggest Xen.
VMWare ESXI is quite restricted to be *nix only.
muppis: I'm toying with having a win2003 box on there as well, simply as a backup domain controller. KVM then?
KVM should be fine.
hmm, alright. now to learn how to use kvm
But you can face I/O issues with win2003 on kvm.
kvm is easy when done with libvirt and virt-manager.
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newly created user can not login with ltsp but the one during installation can on every thin client (only this username used during installation)
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do i need a DNS server?
did you try to connect with ssh ?
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ssh localhost was successful. the sshd said that user auth successfully. but no login. checked .xsession-errors
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ssh localhost was successful. the sshd said that user auth successfully. but no login. checked .xsession-errors [15:36] <baiki> http://pastebin.com/EtG6aukC
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sorry for this on/off with my username. i am using african internet.
muppis: sorry, had to stop away unexpectedly for a while. what kind of i/o issues with win2k3 on KVM?
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if sabayon is installed. do i have to create for eveny user a profile? i can not login with newly created users!
and this is another error i got: http://pastebin.com/EtG6aukC
baiki: sabayon allows you to apply it's profile to all users or specific groups of users. you dont need to make a profile for each. Also, I dont think it would stop you from being able to login.
ok. then i what about my X11 error?
sadly beyond my knowledge. I looked at the pastebin, but since i'm not sure how ltsp x11 works, I couldnt help :(
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how would one go about moving a working ltsp install to a new, physical box? Same IP and everything, just different hardware. I'm assuing a dd copy wouldnt work.
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robehend1: dd would work (if same/larger disk), tar would work, clonezilla would work, plain rsync would work..
It's linux, it just works (tm)
hmm. Well, thats encouraging ;)
robehend1: after booting you might want to `rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules` so that your new nic is called again "eth0" instead of "eth1"
i am looking for ideas to be able to logon to ltsp using thin clients. newly created users won't be able to login, only the one used during installation. permission problem??? i also got an X11 error
wouldnt hurt ;)
robehend1: If you just copy to another partition, you'd want to set the uuid with tune2fs so that you don't have to modify grub, fstab etc
With dd the uuid is kept the same
alkisg: what if i was moving to a different server with a different IP? could i just rsync over the /opt/ltsp
alkisg: er, stupid hitting enter button before i'm finished..., meant to include the /var/lib folders, etc
robehend1: sure, the only difference with different ip is (1) modify dhcpd.conf accordingly, and (2) ltsp-update-sshkeys
You can copy either the whole / or just /opt/ltsp, whatever you want, no problems
Just don't try to copy a booted system without knowing what you're doing
alkisg: do i need to grab /var/lib/tftpboot as well?
nah, i'd grab it though a live disk. learned that lesson before
You may, or you can just run ltsp-update-kernels and it'll be recreated
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robehend1: before ltsp, I used to clone disks inside school labs by following the "backup over the network" paragraph here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
I.e. with tar and nc
If you have gigabit it's even faster than putting the 2 disks on the same machine and copying locally...
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i use ubuntu 9.10 with ltsp 5
baiki: in /var/log/auth.log do you see sucessful login attempts?
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alkisg: ooo, ill take a look at that ;)
alkisg: did that clone strat keep file permissions intact?
tar, rsync etc keep permissions fine
Nice. now to create a master tar for a basic setup, throw it on a server, and have a homegrown imaging. since I cant seem to get F.O.G. to do ubuntu very well.
robehend1: you can even boot the clients with ltsp and copy from there
No need for a live cd
does ltsp-cluster-control work on a standalone ltsp? i.e. I could see what clients i have out booted, their IPS, etc,?
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alkisg: after mounting the local disk, you mean? else I dont see where I would be copying too
alkisg: "SCREEN_02" :: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN
oh of course. I have to remember I have that root shell..
From that root shell you're like if you booted with a live cd
I think i have a page about a gparted screen script as well... let me see...
Ah there it is : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GParted
my christmas break keeps getting more and more full of things to attempt with no students around
when configuring ldmswapd with default settings, telnet <server> 9572 on the client should connect, right?
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instead it connects, and disconnects immediately with a "Connection closed by foreign host."
i got my /etc/hosts.allow, and it's not a firewall issue
no clue, sadly. havent used telnet in ages
knipwim: $ telnet localhost 9572
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
at boot time, i get a negotiation: error: server closed connection
It'd make more sense to connect with nbd-client though
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How did you configure nbd-server?
(and is that gentoo?)
yes, gentoo, and do you mean the xinet.d file?
ah, gentoo. the beginning of many, many hours of frustation for me.
but if it finally works, it feels sooo good
Yes, e.g. we use openbsd-inetd in ubuntu, or you could just create a configuration file for nbd-server and run it without inetd...
Do you use nbdswapd?
yes, and that works, it correctly creates a swap file
(you said ldmswapd above)
err, yes, nbdswap
And if you connect ok with telnet from localhost, do you see the nbdmagic above?
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a nbd-client 192.168.0.1 9572 /dev/nbd0 results in a Negotiation: Error: Server closed connection
And this, from the server? $ telnet localhost 9572
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
And in /var/log/daemon.log, any messages there?
(btw I've never seen gentoo, so I might say something that doesn't apply...)
on nbd-client 192.168.0.1 9572 /dev/nbd0 it says:
Dec 22 18:14:50 localhost xinetd: START: nbdswapd pid=16893 from=192.168.0.21
Dec 22 18:14:50 localhost xinetd: FAIL: nbdswapd address from=192.168.0.21
Dec 22 18:14:50 localhost xinetd: EXIT: nbdswapd status=0 pid=16893 duration=0(sec)
Is the swap file cleared? Or does it stay there?
Try running nbd-server without xinetd first, if that works then it's a xinetd configuration problem
it's cleared, not sure if it's made at all
i.e. stop inetd and run nbd-server 9572 $SWAP $NBD_SERVER_OPTS -C /dev/null
going to eat now
but i'll try to run without xinetd
thanks for now
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it takes kind of a long time, is there something i can do to speed it up?
What takes a long time?
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hah, oops, logging in
i've added 192.168.1.25 ltsp25 to my hosts file
but it doesn't seem to have made any effect
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m4xx: anything else running at login that could slow it down?
i'll strip all the startup app's and see if that makes a difference, but nothing major is set to start
perhaps light it on fire?
nah, the "server" is semi bad ass and it's a "ltsp certified thin client" so i must have screwed something up or missed a setting or something
ah, take all the fun outta it.
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alkisg: cool! it works without the xinetd
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alkisg: made the xinetd work by changing the only_from = localhost line
thx again for the debug support
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Also I wonder if using any kind of *inetd is good for ltsp...
Isn't inetd for "casual" use, to save ram for some services? Saving a few MB when _no_ client is booted and then consuming a few MB more when a client is booted doesn't sound good to me...
if i'm not mistaken, which i very well could be, I think your right with that Alkisg.
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Is it possible to use LDAP with /etc/passwd as the backend? :O
...so that users-admin can be used to manage users, but still have the ability to logon from standalone clients...
though it makes me wonder which service the client would go to first, /etc/passwd or LDAp
Ooops battery out, sorry, gotta go, night all
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I think I found this. Is there anyone here that knows the Debian package? I did the install of what was in squeeze, followed the directions and I'm getting an NFS error on my client "nfsmount: need a path" Where should that have been configured?
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can anyone help with a build on ubuntu 10.10 64 bit build for i386 arch
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and i am using the arch command but it seems to download the 64 bit programs and errors dependancies not met
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