IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 30 May 2011 (all times are UTC)
| 00:20 | <Hyperbyte> Morning! :)
| |
| 00:47 | <alkisg> Goood morning :)
| |
| 00:54 | <dubkat> ssh for secure authentication - you just asked about non-encrypted
| |
| 00:54 | i'm confused or you're just not being clear
| |
| 00:54 | anyway, bed &
| |
| 01:12 | bobby_C (~bobby@85-124-22-227.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #ltsp. | |
| 01:14 | <Hyperbyte> dubkat, authentication encryption != session encryption
| |
| 01:23 | ogra_ (~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Excess Flood | |
| 01:25 | ogra_ (~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #ltsp. | |
| 01:53 | ogra_ (~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Excess Flood | |
| 01:55 | ogra_ (~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #ltsp. | |
| 02:02 | <Hyperbyte> Anyone here know how I can force a umask for all people who log in to Gnome?
| |
| 02:03 | I set it in /etc/profile, but apparently that does nothing to the Gnome session. I set it in a script that runs on Gnome startup, but I think that only affects the script and not the whole session
| |
| 02:03 | I think it can be done via ~/.gnomerc, but I would like to avoid user-specific configuration.
| |
| 02:04 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: ubuntu? read /etc/login.defs
| |
| 02:05 | # Therefore the use of pam_umask is recommended as the solution which
| |
| 02:05 | # catches all these cases on PAM-enabled systems.
| |
| 02:07 | dobber (~dobber@89.190.197.77) joined #ltsp. | |
| 02:17 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm, I changed it to 002 in /etc/login.defs but it's still 0022 when I type 'umask' in a Gnome terminal
| |
| 02:17 | Or do I need to restart the server?
| |
| 02:18 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: don't change login.defs, READ it :)
| |
| 02:18 | I.e. use it as documentation, not as a configuration file
| |
| 02:19 | <Hyperbyte> I did... but from what I can gather, it's a configuration file?
| |
| 02:19 | # /etc/login.defs - Configuration control definitions for the login package.
| |
| 02:19 | <alkisg> It is a configuration file, and inside it they mention why you should NOT using for umask, and what to use instead
| |
| 02:20 | ogra_ (~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Excess Flood | |
| 02:21 | <Hyperbyte> Sorry, I don't see that in the file...
| |
| 02:21 | Let me go back a step.
| |
| 02:21 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: see what I pasted above:
| |
| 02:21 | | |
| 02:21 | | |
| 02:21 | Don't you have those in your login.defs?
| |
| 02:21 | <Hyperbyte> I have a directory in /home/ with shared files. I want all files and directories created in there to be group-writable.
| |
| 02:21 | No, that's not in my login.defs
| |
| 02:21 | <alkisg> There's a whole paragraph about the umask problem, and there's advice on where to set it
| |
| 02:21 | Hmmm let me boot a natty vm...
| |
| 02:21 | ogra_ (~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #ltsp. | |
| 02:22 | <Hyperbyte> Don't bother
| |
| 02:22 | http://secondary.recreatie-zorg.nl/jan/login.defs
| |
| 02:22 | :)
| |
| 02:22 | <alkisg> Hmmm they deleted all the comments, let me paste you mine...
| |
| 02:23 | Search for umask: http://pastebin.com/dJ4uUzKG
| |
| 02:23 | There was a looooong talk about umask in bug reports etc, and that paragraph best summarized the situation
| |
| 02:23 | I don't know why they deleted it in natty, maybe something even newer came up?
| |
| 02:25 | <Hyperbyte> So how do you use pam_umask? It's not a command, can't find any configuration pertaining to it, except /etc/login.defs
| |
| 02:25 | <alkisg> man pam_umask
| |
| 02:25 | or http://manpages.ubuntu.com/pam_umask
| |
| 02:27 | <Hyperbyte> Okay, so basically I add "session optional pam_umask.so umask=002" to /etc/pam.d/common-session, correct?
| |
| 02:35 | Success!
| |
| 02:36 | * Hyperbyte high fives alkisg | |
| 02:36 | * alkisg hasn't fiddled with umask for a long while... glad I was able to help :) | |
| 02:37 | <Hyperbyte> Strange that this can't be found so easily via Google... all I found was a whole bunch of Ubuntu forums threads talking about /etc/profile
| |
| 03:15 | IOMonster_desk (~IOMonster@unaffiliated/iomonster) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds | |
| 03:20 | Trixboxer (~Trixboxer@office.supportdepartment.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 03:23 | zamba (marius@flage.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | |
| 03:27 | IOMonster_desk (~IOMonster@68-186-57-213.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) joined #ltsp. | |
| 03:27 | IOMonster_desk (~IOMonster@68-186-57-213.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) left irc: Changing host | |
| 03:27 | IOMonster_desk (~IOMonster@unaffiliated/iomonster) joined #ltsp. | |
| 03:40 | zamba (marius@flage.org) joined #ltsp. | |
| 04:03 | IOMonster_desk (~IOMonster@unaffiliated/iomonster) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | |
| 04:21 | <andygraybeal> morrrningn
| |
| 04:22 | <Hyperbyte> Afternoon. :)
| |
| 04:22 | <andygraybeal> hi Hyperbyte !!
| |
| 04:47 | dlezcano (~dlezcano@AToulouse-159-1-98-223.w92-134.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 244 seconds | |
| 04:47 | dlezcano (~dlezcano@AToulouse-159-1-9-88.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #ltsp. | |
| 05:12 | dlezcano (~dlezcano@AToulouse-159-1-9-88.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds | |
| 05:40 | fossala (~fossala@92.28.222.5) joined #ltsp. | |
| 05:41 | <fossala> I have a 2x dualcore 2.2ghz (opteron) with 16gb ram. Would it be powerfull enough to power 4 thin clients?
| |
| 05:41 | * alkisg is using core 2 duos with 3 Gb RAM to power school labs with 12 thin clients :) | |
| 05:41 | <alkisg> So yeah, more than powerful enough
| |
| 05:42 | <fossala> What is the speed like?
| |
| 05:42 | <alkisg> Gigabit network everywhere?
| |
| 05:43 | <fossala> Yeah.
| |
| 05:43 | <alkisg> So all will be fine except for 3d apps and for flash
| |
| 05:44 | Flash will kill the cpu (but ok for 4 clients) and doesn't use xv acceleration so it also kills all the network bandwidth, escpecially for fullscreen
| |
| 05:44 | <fossala> alkisg: Thanks.
| |
| 05:44 | <alkisg> You're welcome
| |
| 05:45 | bobby_C (~bobby@85-124-22-227.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds | |
| 05:45 | <fossala> alkisg: I'm doing it on a budget. How powerfull will the thin clients need to be (Picked up the server for 30quid on ebay :D)
| |
| 05:46 | All that needs to run is web browser and editors. Occational gcc.
| |
| 05:46 | bobby_C (~bobby@85-124-22-227.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #ltsp. | |
| 05:47 | <alkisg> It depends on the expected use. A web browser can e.g. be "reading wikipedia" == minimum cpu/bandwidth, or "watching youtube" == maximum cpu/bandwidth
| |
| 05:47 | The recommented minimum is something with 256 ram, for thin client use only
| |
| 05:48 | While with 512 RAM and more, you can start using localapps (local firefox/flash => runs faster on some occations)
| |
| 05:48 | For only 4 clients you should be able to avoid localapps...
| |
| 05:48 | (the bare minimum is 64 ram, but that's asking for trouble :))
| |
| 05:48 | <fossala> Its only for home use.
| |
| 05:49 | The ones I've looked into have 512mb/1gb ram.
| |
| 05:50 | <alkisg> Should be fine then
| |
| 05:50 | <fossala> Awesome. once again thanks for your help.
| |
| 06:03 | I have found a Wyse V90L for 30 quid + p&p. Is 10/100 network fast enough for the client?
| |
| 06:14 | andygraybeal (~andy.gray@obsidian.casanueva.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds | |
| 06:16 | ogra_ (~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Excess Flood | |
| 06:17 | ogra_ (~ogra@p5098ed03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #ltsp. | |
| 06:24 | Gnoze5 (~Gnoze5@static-b4-252-232.telepac.pt) joined #ltsp. | |
| 06:29 | Gnoze5 (~Gnoze5@static-b4-252-232.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds | |
| 06:33 | <alkisg> The network is more important than cpu usually
| |
| 06:33 | Also if you have a mixed-mode network (half gigabit, half 100mbps) you need to watch out for the flow control problem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FlowControl
| |
| 06:36 | Gnoze5 (~Gnoze5@static-b4-252-232.telepac.pt) joined #ltsp. | |
| 06:36 | <Gnoze5> Yellow
| |
| 06:36 | <alkisg> Green
| |
| 06:36 | <Gnoze5> how are you ?
| |
| 06:36 | <alkisg> And "pink" she put down the telephone (that's from a joke, isn't it?)
| |
| 06:37 | <Gnoze5> yes it is lol
| |
| 06:38 | otavio_ (~otavio@debian/developer/otavio) left irc: Quit: leaving | |
| 06:41 | mgariepy (~mgariepy@ubuntu/member/mgariepy) joined #ltsp. | |
| 06:47 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
| |
| 06:47 | <Gnoze5> good morrow mgariepy
| |
| 06:48 | otavio (~otavio@189.114.111.55) joined #ltsp. | |
| 06:48 | otavio (~otavio@189.114.111.55) left irc: Changing host | |
| 06:48 | otavio (~otavio@debian/developer/otavio) joined #ltsp. | |
| 07:00 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds | |
| 07:01 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) joined #ltsp. | |
| 07:03 | alkisg (~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds | |
| 07:07 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds | |
| 07:09 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) joined #ltsp. | |
| 07:23 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) left irc: Disconnected by services | |
| 07:23 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) joined #ltsp. | |
| 07:26 | dlezcano (~dlezcano@AToulouse-159-1-68-76.w92-134.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #ltsp. | |
| 07:27 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) left irc: Client Quit | |
| 07:27 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) joined #ltsp. | |
| 07:34 | alkisg_web (53d4c166@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.212.193.102) joined #ltsp. | |
| 07:52 | antoiner (~Antoine_R@189.204.25.146) joined #ltsp. | |
| 07:55 | <antoiner> Hi, I've tried LTSP with Edubuntu 11.04 without Unity. However my thin clients automaticaly run by default Unity. How can I change my server or client chroot in order to have the classic gnome (without effect) automaticaly by default on my thin clients ?
| |
| 07:57 | <mgariepy> antoiner, in LDM, you can click on "preferences" then "session" and select "ubuntu-classic no effect"
| |
| 07:58 | <antoiner> mgariepy: I want to avoid user interaction with that part ..... in fact if I can get totaly rid of Unity it's better.
| |
| 07:58 | mgariepy: I do not have any grief against Unity, it's just it does not still offer me what I need to.
| |
| 08:00 | <mgariepy> i have a ldm package that fixes the LDM_SESSION related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/770323
| |
| 08:00 | antoiner, maybe this is what you need " https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2011-April/006691.html
| |
| 08:03 | <antoiner> mgariepy: I've tried the manual override in the mailling list : I've changed lts.conf, made the script and made it executable and ran my thin client and nothing ...... Is there something I'm missing ?
| |
| 08:07 | <mgariepy> antoiner, try installing this package in your chroot and set the LDM_SESSION="gnome --session=2d-gnome" https://launchpad.net/~mgariepy/+archive/ppa/+files/ldm_2.2.2%7Ebzr1383-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1%7Ereally-2.2.1_i386.deb
| |
| 08:07 | this should work.
| |
| 08:08 | i also have a 64bit package if necessary in my ppa.
| |
| 08:09 | <antoiner> thank you very much
| |
| 08:09 | <mgariepy> you are welcome :)
| |
| 08:10 | <antoiner> by the way, do you know a method that I can use to replace openssh to lsh ? Or at least where I can look for changing openssh/ltsp link ?
| |
| 08:11 | <mgariepy> antoiner, no i use localapps to prevent saturated network problem and it's working great even with italc.
| |
| 08:21 | <antoiner> ;) I see you saw my e-mail ;)
| |
| 08:24 | mgariepy: What does your ltsp package in your ppa ? version upgrade ?
| |
| 08:28 | <mgariepy> it's the latest code from the trunk
| |
| 08:29 | antoiner, i made it to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/770323
| |
| 08:37 | <antoiner> mgariepy: One last question ... is Italc of edubuntu 11.04 is broken ? I can't get ICA work .... :(
| |
| 08:37 | <mgariepy> i haven't tried it with 11.04 yet.
| |
| 08:38 | <antoiner> mgariepy: Thank you for your help ! Too bad for the lsh theme because the zlib/huffmann compression of openssh is quite weak and it's never bad, in a atom thin client, to try to lower network stress. I'll use
| |
| 08:39 | local applications
| |
| 08:39 | <alkisg_web> antoiner: video compression would kill the server cpu just for a couple of clients
| |
| 08:39 | So it wouldn't be a good thing
| |
| 08:41 | <antoiner> Video is not the only case where network is saturated ... it saturates in general when the whole screen change .....
| |
| 08:44 | <mgariepy> video, screensaver (which i set as mandatory to black) and mostly games saturate the network, when an applications saturate too much the network it makes sense to run it locally.
| |
| 08:50 | <antoiner> It makes sense but it's not always the best solution.
| |
| 08:50 | The economic model of a LTSP solution is to center everything to the server.
| |
| 08:50 | When using for instance CAD software or softwares like blender, you'll like to build a strong server with thin clients and not put too much power to the thin clients.
| |
| 08:50 | However this is turning to be too complex because the network is saturated easily (bandwidth and packets per seconds).
| |
| 08:51 | Trouble that can be avoided by doing a very small X-Forward cache with a better compression method than the one forced by openssh in sshv2 protocol
| |
| 08:52 | <alkisg_web> Have you actually tried this, or you just suppose that it would work?
| |
| 08:52 | Because in my experiense, compression in lan only makes matter worse
| |
| 08:55 | <antoiner> it's just bluepaper ....... I try to do it. Here in my test lab of 30 thin clients, enabling the compression of openssh made things quicker without a big payload (Server is a Core 2 Duo at 2.4Ghz and clients are Atom N270)
| |
| 08:55 | <alkisg_web> Do you have actual numbers? Bandwidth, cpu usage etc?
| |
| 08:57 | I believe even if just a few clients visit youtube with compression on, the server cpu usage will be 100%
| |
| 08:58 | <antoiner> in a youtube usage the server cpu is at less than 10% and the client one less than 10%
| |
| 08:58 | and the bandwith is at near 90Mbps with is the top it can achieve with 2000 packets per sec
| |
| 08:59 | and 90Mbps in a windowed mode
| |
| 08:59 | youtube
| |
| 08:59 | not fullscreen witch is impossible to see
| |
| 08:59 | <alkisg_web> That's with LDM_DIRECTX=False, whch is usually the default setting?
| |
| 09:00 | Or with LDM_DIRECTX=True?
| |
| 09:00 | <antoiner> in True
| |
| 09:00 | <alkisg_web> Then you're *NOT* using ssh
| |
| 09:00 | Not compression, not anything
| |
| 09:00 | drdata (~drdata@pool-173-57-189-158.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 09:00 | <antoiner> oops
| |
| 09:00 | vagrantc (~vagrant@c-24-21-193-192.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 09:00 | <antoiner> I thought it was only the encrypting algorithm
| |
| 09:00 | <alkisg_web> Try again with LDM_DIRECTX=False, which is the default, you'll see what I'm talking about
| |
| 09:01 | You won't be able to work with more than just a few clients
| |
| 09:01 | <antoiner> ok doing right now
| |
| 09:13 | drdata (~drdata@pool-173-57-189-158.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds | |
| 09:13 | <antoiner> lol all the window managers broke ........ I need to reinstall first ....... Thank you for the Tip. By the way, lowering to arcfour does not makes things better ?
| |
| 09:24 | <Gnoze5> no ssh might be a bad idea..
| |
| 09:24 | btw alkisg_web does it use HPN by default?
| |
| 09:25 | <antoiner> HPN ?
| |
| 09:27 | <Gnoze5> High Performance SSH
| |
| 09:27 | i dont even know if you can in this situation
| |
| 09:27 | but i believe ssh is limited to 64k by default
| |
| 09:28 | Ahmuck (~quietly@p244n22.ruraltel.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 09:30 | <antoiner> what are the requisities for HPN ?
| |
| 09:32 | <Gnoze5> i just thought of hpn tbh i dont even know if it can be used in this context
| |
| 09:34 | im not sure if it works with interactive sessions
| |
| 09:37 | <antoiner> ok ;)
| |
| 09:38 | JamesB192 (~quassel@67-61-237-117.cpe.cableone.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 09:58 | drdata (~drdata@pool-173-57-189-158.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 10:22 | IOMonster_desk (~IOMonster@unaffiliated/iomonster) joined #ltsp. | |
| 10:40 | alkisg_web (53d4c166@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.212.193.102) left irc: Quit: Page closed | |
| 10:55 | alkisg (~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) joined #ltsp. | |
| 11:25 | vagrantc (~vagrant@c-24-21-193-192.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | |
| 11:33 | IOMonster_desk (~IOMonster@unaffiliated/iomonster) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds | |
| 11:44 | IOMonster_desk (~IOMonster@unaffiliated/iomonster) joined #ltsp. | |
| 11:58 | andygraybeal (~andy.gray@obsidian.casanueva.com) joined #ltsp. | |
| 12:10 | <andygraybeal> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1096/894127714_9f98afa6f5_o.jpg
| |
| 12:11 | * alkisg could reuse those as closets :D | |
| 12:12 | <andygraybeal> :)
| |
| 12:22 | <stgraber> anyone has an objection to me tagging a new ldm for upload in Oneiric ?
| |
| 12:36 | <highvoltage> ldm v3.0.0? :p
| |
| 12:42 | <andygraybeal> nice :)
| |
| 12:50 | Trixboxer (~Trixboxer@office.supportdepartment.net) left irc: Quit: "Achievement is not the end, its the beginning of new journey !!!" | |
| 12:55 | dlezcano (~dlezcano@AToulouse-159-1-68-76.w92-134.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds | |
| 13:05 | Dantix (~Administr@mailer.witcel.com.ar) joined #ltsp. | |
| 13:07 | <stgraber> nah, enough 3.0 for the week :)
| |
| 13:08 | Created tag ldm-2.2.2.
| |
| 13:08 | dlezcano (~dlezcano@AToulouse-159-1-95-146.w92-136.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #ltsp. | |
| 13:09 | alkisg (~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) left irc: Quit: Leaving. | |
| 13:10 | <Dantix> hi all, I'm in troubles to get booting a thin client. I've configured the box at mi datacenter and boots fine. The box must be at fabrile store, its place is trought a fiber optic link and a a switch, installed there I've receive "nfs server not responding, still trying"
| |
| 13:11 | and never boots
| |
| 13:11 | I have other boxes there and works fine, must be a kernel options related issue?
| |
| 13:16 | drdata (~drdata@pool-173-57-189-158.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds | |
| 13:17 | <stgraber> mgariepy: can you give me the magic string to start in classic gnome mode ? (value of LDM_SESSION)
| |
| 13:21 | mgariepy: nevermind, got it
| |
| 13:25 | alexqwesa_ (~alex@alexo-veto.broker.freenet6.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 13:29 | mgariepy (~mgariepy@ubuntu/member/mgariepy) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds | |
| 13:29 | KBme (~KBme@2001:470:cabe:666:666:666:666:666) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds | |
| 13:29 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds | |
| 13:29 | alexqwesa (~alex@alexo-veto.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds | |
| 13:32 | mgariepy (~mgariepy@ubuntu/member/mgariepy) joined #ltsp. | |
| 13:32 | veloutin (~vvinet@2001:470:8829:1000:227:eff:fe25:ee64) joined #ltsp. | |
| 13:32 | KBme (~KBme@2001:470:cabe:666:666:666:666:666) joined #ltsp. | |
| 13:55 | Dantix (~Administr@mailer.witcel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving. | |
| 14:09 | alexqwesa_ (~alex@alexo-veto.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds | |
| 14:18 | vagrantc (~vagrant@c-24-21-193-192.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 14:19 | alexqwesa (~alex@alexo-veto.broker.freenet6.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 14:23 | JamesB192 (quassel@67-61-237-117.cpe.cableone.net) left #ltsp ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."). | |
| 14:30 | bobby_C (~bobby@85-124-22-227.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds | |
| 14:40 | <antoiner> Someone knows witch tftp server is used for ltsp under edubuntu 11.04 ? I try to restart it without restarting the whole server after installing ltsp ..... I've tried openbsd-tftp and tftpd-hpa but no results ...
| |
| 14:40 | <vagrantc> might still be openbsd-inetd
| |
| 14:41 | <mnemoc> antoiner: netstat -nlp will tell you what process is listening the tftp port
| |
| 14:42 | <antoiner> it tells me "in.tftpd" ...... what is this tftp daemon ?
| |
| 14:43 | <mnemoc> dpkg -S in.tftpd :)
| |
| 14:44 | or just shoot it using `kill` to that process
| |
| 14:44 | it will be respawned... most likely :p
| |
| 14:44 | <antoiner> it's tftpd-hpa
| |
| 14:44 | <vagrantc> grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
| |
| 14:45 | <mnemoc> /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart ?
| |
| 14:45 | <vagrantc> unless it's configured to run from inetd
| |
| 14:45 | which was the default for a long time ... not sure when ubuntu switched
| |
| 14:45 | <mnemoc> if it's inetd it would be "restarted" on each connection
| |
| 14:45 | so it's running standalone
| |
| 14:45 | <antoiner> vagrantc: nothing appear
| |
| 14:46 | <vagrantc> ok, good. yes, tftpd-hpa then
| |
| 14:47 | <antoiner> mnemoc: done it but the TFTP still gives me timeout .... the worse is that if I restart the computer then it works ...... It's just I try to do a script that activate ltsp without restarting it and without using the install script
| |
| 14:48 | it says me that it cannot open connection
| |
| 14:48 | <mnemoc> antoiner: confirm it's pid changes when doing the restart
| |
| 14:48 | antoiner: it may be blocked
| |
| 14:49 | in which case an stop + start might be better
| |
| 14:49 | <antoiner> mnemoc: confirmed
| |
| 14:49 | mnemoc: already tried the stop start ....... also via "service tftpd-hpa stop/start"
| |
| 14:53 | <mnemoc> and /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa ?
| |
| 14:54 | but well, just confirm it's down after stop-ing it
| |
| 14:55 | IOMonster_desk (~IOMonster@unaffiliated/iomonster) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | |
| 14:57 | <antoiner> yes I confirm it's down after a stop
| |
| 14:58 | and the pid change when I start it again either way ....
| |
| 14:58 | is there any firewall thing or apparmor thing ?
| |
| 14:58 | my installation is just edubuntu + apt-get install ltsp-standalone-server
| |
| 14:59 | <mnemoc> check iptables-save .... but afaik there is no firewalling by default on ubuntu
| |
| 15:02 | <antoiner> nothing in iptable-save only comments
| |
| 15:02 | <warren> anyone on Debian or Ubuntu but you have rpm installed? I need a quick test.
| |
| 15:06 | <antoiner> sorry I don't have alien or rpm installed on my system
| |
| 15:22 | <mnemoc> warren: I can install them if you still need the test
| |
| 15:22 | <warren> mnemoc, nevermind, got help in #debian
| |
| 15:22 | <mnemoc> ok
| |
| 15:36 | <Gnoze5> yellow
| |
| 15:39 | <Hyperbyte> Magenta?
| |
| 15:39 | <mnemoc> cyan
| |
| 15:41 | <Hyperbyte> Green.
| |
| 15:41 | <mnemoc> CMY...G? uhm
| |
| 15:42 | <Hyperbyte> Nah, it's "key". I was just randoming though. )
| |
| 15:42 | * =)
| |
| 15:42 | <mnemoc> :)
| |
| 15:42 | <Hyperbyte> Hey, while we're on the subject of thin computing... smartphones are pretty thin, right?
| |
| 15:43 | My boss broke the touchscreen of his HTC Desire HD... he said the phone sucks and he's gonna buy an iPhone. That hurt me, so I offered to replace his screen if he ordered a new one.
| |
| 15:43 | <mnemoc> they count as fat, as they run local apps ;-)
| |
| 15:43 | <Hyperbyte> I am -never- -ever- -under- -no- -circumstance- doing that again.
| |
| 15:44 | If you're curious what a HTC Desire HD looks like when it's all taken apart, see: http://twitpic.com/54qf5d/full
| |
| 15:44 | Oh, and in case you're wondering - yes, you have to disassemble the entire mainboard before it lets go of the screen.
| |
| 15:44 | <abeehc> haha............good times
| |
| 15:45 | <Hyperbyte> I got it though eventually. Took me a little over 3 hours I think.
| |
| 15:46 | It helped that the screen was already broken. Normally it's a bitch to remove, because it's glued to the chassis... nearly impossible to remove without breaking, unless you heat it so much the glue melts.
| |
| 15:46 | But since the screen was broken, I just got creative.
| |
| 15:47 | Guerdal82|atWork (~Guerdal82@LLagny-156-35-33-131.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #ltsp. | |
| 15:47 | <Hyperbyte> Seriously though... -never- -ever- again. http://twitpic.com/54rsxv
| |
| 15:48 | On that note, good night. =)
| |
| 15:52 | <Gnoze5> Hyperbyte lol. crazy.
| |
| 15:59 | GodFather (~rcc@d47-69-227-53.col.wideopenwest.com) joined #ltsp. | |
| 16:07 | <Gnoze5> hm
| |
| 16:07 | isnt memory shared when several users are using firefox for example?
| |
| 16:09 | vagrantc (~vagrant@c-24-21-193-192.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | |
| 16:12 | GodFather (~rcc@d47-69-227-53.col.wideopenwest.com) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat | |
| 16:39 | <Gnoze5> the channel is too quite :P
| |
| 17:31 | andygraybeals (~andy@232.sub-75-218-136.myvzw.com) joined #ltsp. | |
| 17:41 | <Gnoze5> *quiet
| |
| 17:54 | antoiner (~Antoine_R@189.204.25.146) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer | |
| 18:04 | Guerdal82|atWork (~Guerdal82@LLagny-156-35-33-131.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds | |
| 18:53 | Gnoze5 (~Gnoze5@static-b4-252-232.telepac.pt) left irc: | |
| 19:05 | andygraybeals (~andy@232.sub-75-218-136.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat | |
| 19:46 | otavio (~otavio@debian/developer/otavio) left irc: Quit: leaving | |
| 20:11 | Guerdal82|atWork (~Guerdal82@LLagny-156-35-33-131.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #ltsp. | |
| 20:22 | alkisg (~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) joined #ltsp. | |
| 20:28 | alkisg (~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) left irc: Quit: Leaving. | |
| 22:23 | Guerdal82|atWork (~Guerdal82@LLagny-156-35-33-131.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds | |
| 22:38 | drdata (~drdata@pool-173-57-189-158.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined #ltsp. | |
| 23:08 | fossala (~fossala@92.28.222.5) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out | |
| 23:19 | Guerdal82|atWork (~Guerdal82@LLagny-156-35-33-131.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #ltsp. | |
| 23:32 | Guerdal82|atWork (Guerdal82@LLagny-156-35-33-131.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) left #ltsp. | |
| 00:00 | --- Tue May 31 2011 | |