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Channel log from 23 December 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<noob2>
alkisg: so i took your advice and now installed virtualbox
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<alkisg>
and?
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<noob2>
are you running win2003? win2008
06:26
<alkisg>
I'm not running windows...
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<noob2>
oh, i was under the impression that you were running win as ur guest os
06:27
my bad
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<alkisg>
I've tried with w2k, w2003 and with w2008, but just as a proof of concept, not in any production sites.
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<noob2>
oh
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i see
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<_UsUrPeR_>
man...
07:15
morning all
07:15
alkisg: are you ldapping?
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<Appiah>
proof of conecpt for what alkisg ?
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<alkisg>
_UsUrPeR_: getting ready... :D
07:58
<_UsUrPeR_>
woo!
07:59
<alkisg>
Appiah: to see if LTSP works OK with win* server...
07:59
<Appiah>
umm
07:59
like what? AD? DHCP?
07:59
<alkisg>
Appiah: nah, like rdesktop clients
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<Appiah>
oh
08:00
you mean the ltsp desktop client connected to those servers
08:02
<_UsUrPeR_>
screen_07 = rdesktop ? :)
08:02
alkisg: what windows version are you connecting to?
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<alkisg>
I tried with win 2000, 2003 and 2008
08:04
All worked fine...
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<alkisg>
What's a "usual" local domain to use with LDAP? I'm thinking of "dc=sch,dc=localdomain", because I've read that .local shouldn't be used because of mdns...
08:11
<Appiah>
dc=mycompany,dc=local is what I use
08:11
never heard of .local problem?
08:11
<alkisg>
Appiah: http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal
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<Appiah>
and dc=myplace,dc=se
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avahi
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<alkisg>
Yes, it appears that .local is reserved for mdns
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(zeroconf, avahi etc)
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<Appiah>
i c
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<alkisg>
E.g. if you have a dns server for .local, then iTalc autodetection won't work...
08:12
<Appiah>
good thing I'm not using it in any production :D
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<moldy>
alkisg: i usually use a "real" domain
08:24
<alkisg>
moldy: like, example.com? or your real domain name?
08:24
<moldy>
my real domain name
08:24
<alkisg>
I've read that this may cause problems... :(
08:24
<moldy>
what kind of problems?
08:25
<alkisg>
In resolving, in security etc - an article I read proposed using a subdomain of the real domain for local sites
08:25
<moldy>
i havn't seen any problems so far
08:25
<alkisg>
E.g. department.mycompany.com or something...
08:26
E.g. if you have an authoritative dns server locally, and a client tries to contact awebservice.mycompany.com, the dns server may not forward the request to the internet server or something like that...
08:27
<moldy>
hmm
08:27
well, everything can be misconfigured ;)
08:28
<alkisg>
:D I'm trying to at least make a "usual" configuration - sure, everything can brake ;)
08:43
<sbalneav>
Morning all
08:43
stgraber: I'll have a look at the ltspfs issue.
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<stgraber>
sbalneav: great, Gadi found that a good part of the issue is when SERVER isn't set, ltsp_config seems to do some weird stuff in this case
09:11
involving a lot of grep/awk/sed calls
09:12
the initial idea we had is to implement some kind of caching for ltsp_config so first time it'll dump the generated environment to a file that can then be sourced for the next calls
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(as currently, ltsp_config gets sourced for every block device detected + during boot time + in a lot of other scripts)
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<mgariepy>
good afternoon everybody :)
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<sbalneav>
Hello mgariepy
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<mgariepy>
something up for the holyday scott ?
12:29
<stgraber>
hey mgariepy
12:29
how are the holidays going ?
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<mgariepy>
hey stephane
12:30
pretty good, i've been snow showing yesterday almost all afernoon, it was pretty nice in the wood ;)
12:31
snow-shoeing.
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sorry about my bad english,
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<johnny>
don't apologize for bad english..
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we're all bad english speakers.. :)
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even the native ones..
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<mgariepy>
ok johnny, thanks, i can tell that my french isn't that great too ;)
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<johnny>
:)
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<stgraber>
I guess bad french is a local issue, not much to do with you ;) (ok, that's the european speaking there)
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<mgariepy>
yeah, i guess so.
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<stgraber>
anyone tried the change I made last night with something else than Ubuntu ? I'd be interested in knowing what damages I did with that.
12:34
<johnny>
stgraber, ... i haven't cared to try yet until i use dracut in gentoo
12:34
when i have time to work on it again..
12:35
hmm.. btw.. whatever happened to the logo contest?
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i'd like to see some graphic person to make a nice plymouth theme and ldm theme for ltsp itself..
12:35
not just the distro specific ones like in ubuntu
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<johnny>
stgraber, it'd be cool to have it so that any distro gets a nice theme before they can get an artist to custom for their distro
12:36
it'll also make ltsp look good by default..
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<stgraber>
agreed
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I'm quite lucky I have good designers available for Ubuntu artwork but having some good upstream artwork would be great too
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<sbalneav>
My drawing skills make xkcd look like freakin' picasso.
12:38
<johnny>
me too..
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<stgraber>
hehe :)
12:38
<johnny>
luckily nobody pays you to do that
12:38
<sbalneav>
Nope.
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<johnny>
so.. what happeened to the logo contest sbalneav ?
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did something win?
12:38
<sbalneav>
We have a logo
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<johnny>
ah
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<sbalneav>
hold on
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http://www.ltsp.org/
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yep, top left
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<johnny>
ok.. so now we need somebody to fix up that ltsp default theme..
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<sbalneav>
the X that looks like it's made out of a couple of bent ribbons
12:39
<johnny>
and do a plymouth one..
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<sbalneav>
plymouth?
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<johnny>
where those ribbons move or somethin..
12:40
<sbalneav>
As in Charger?
12:40
<johnny>
charge is a plymouth theme ..
12:40
it's the bootsplash thing in fedora, and now ubuntu lucid
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<sbalneav>
ah
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<johnny>
also mandrake i think..
12:40
<mgariepy>
who is maintaining the website btw ?
12:40
<johnny>
and hopefully some day gentoo
12:40
<sbalneav>
mgariepy: jammcq
12:40
<johnny>
gentoo still seems to be clinging to their current initramfs thing that sucks.. :(
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altho some gentoo patches have gone into dracut
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<mgariepy>
clicking on the logo almost give a 404, ""An error has been encountered in accessing this page. ""
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<stgraber>
yeah, we had to move to mediawiki for some reason ... lots of links are currently broken
12:41
<mgariepy>
kk
12:42
this explain a lot then :)
12:42
<sbalneav>
The old wiki got, err, compromised.
12:42
<johnny>
rewrite the urls?
12:42
<stgraber>
We also have someone at RL looking at new website for LTSP+LTSP-Cluster, we'll start with making a rocking one for LTSP-Cluster, try a few wiki modules and if we get good successes there we'll propose it for LTSP in general
12:42
(we have some external funding for that so it's great to have time to invest in finding a solution so the website gets a bit more attractive and more "web 2.0")
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<stgraber>
I don't want RL to appear as the company who wants to takeover the website (or something like that ;)) so doing it with LTSP-Cluster as part of that funding while keeping in mind we may want to use it for LTSP itself seems to make sense
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<_UsUrPeR_>
sbalneav: ping?
14:19
<sbalneav>
_UsUrPeR_: pong
14:19
<_UsUrPeR_>
sbalneav: Y HLO THUR. Mind if I ask about any changes that are going to be made to future sabayon versions?
14:19
<sbalneav>
Sure.
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We've added group apply,
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manual's been added
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<johnny>
is xephyr default now on ubuntu ?
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or does it still use xnest?
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<sbalneav>
I need to fix up the "changes" menu to make things default to mandatory
14:21
Last night I submitted the OpenOffice.org lockdown patch to Pessulus
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I've recently changed the layout of conffiles to /etc/sabayon and /eyc/sabayon/profiles
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<johnny>
considered making a preferences option to set various paths to ignore via gui?
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<sbalneav>
Nope, no one's filed it as a feature request, add it to the bugtracker.
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<johnny>
is it that useful? that is the question
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or is there a better way?
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<sbalneav>
sure, seems like it might be.
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<johnny>
of course.. if more apps used xdg dirs.. it wouldn't be so difficult..
14:22
<sbalneav>
right.
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<johnny>
i wonder if the distro packages might want to have some custom setting in the desktop file for certain apps
14:23
<sbalneav>
_UsUrPeR_: none of these have been released yet, it's all going on in the git repo
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<johnny>
sabayon is having to do too much that the OS should be doing imo
14:23
<sbalneav>
I'm hoping to have another release soon, which I'll put in my repo.
14:23
<_UsUrPeR_>
sbalneav: I understand. I am excited about the manual :)
14:23
<johnny>
but most of it isn't standard..
14:23
<sbalneav>
the one with the manual's in my repo
14:23
that's the frozen monday release.
14:24
<_UsUrPeR_>
sbalneav: In previous versions, when applying a scheme to a user, the only way to reset or change to another scheme was to delete a few user files. Has that changed?
14:25
<sbalneav>
Not yet, that's my next bug to fix.
14:25
<_UsUrPeR_>
woop :)
14:25
<sbalneav>
Everything's defaulting to "default" instead of "mandatory"
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which is the behaviour that most people expect.
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<sbalneav>
_UsUrPeR_: That answer your question?
14:27
Or did you have others?
14:27
<_UsUrPeR_>
sbalneav: no, I'm good. thank you
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<sbalneav>
johnny: sorry, yes, uses Xephyr
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<mgariepy>
cya guys,
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<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi: ping?
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<sbalneav>
Well, lets see if we can get the "mandatory/default" confusion sorted in Sabayon.
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<Ahmuck>
?
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