IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 6 November 2014   (all times are UTC)

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07:50
<jtornero>
hello all. I am n trouble. Installed ltsp-server-standalone in kubuntu 14.04 and now I am not able to start my machine
07:51
nstead of this, it looks like the machne boots into ltsp?
07:52
in fact my usual prompt xxxxx@mymachne (when n recovery mode) now is root@ltsp0
07:53
machine get stuck after "Stoppng System V runlevel compatibility"
07:55
and just can login with tty1, but I can't login into "my machine" but into ltsp0
07:57
also tried to uninstall ltsp but apt complaints about dpkg files not found.
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07:58
<jtornero>
It sounds really as an desperate, childish cry for help... and it really is!!! Any help would be much appreciated.
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08:09
<jtornero>
why does linux boot into ltsp0? is it possible to boot again into my machine?
08:17
<muppis>
That usually happens, when some of ltsp-client package is installed in local system and scripts doesn't have any idea about the server.
08:20
<jtornero>
Thank ou very much, muppis, What can be done to revert this situation? I am able to log as user, chroot but I can't, say so, "see my real system"
08:21
<muppis>
Firstly look up if there ltsp-client -packages installed in server.
08:22
Purge them, reboot system and then look up if there still something wrong.
08:22
<jtornero>
OK. but I can't login into the server. The problem is that that macine is the server!
08:23
It's like if the usual boot sequence has been replaced
08:24
<muppis>
It isn't the problem if you can log in there. Missing server is not the case. Case is which packages you have installed in machine which meant to be aserver.
08:26
<jtornero>
I installed ltsp-server-standalone and ltsp-client?
08:26
<muppis>
Did you install ltsp-client packages in server or runned ltsp-build-client -command?
08:27
<jtornero>
runned ltsp-build-client for sure
08:28
ltsp-client package not sure at all. Sorry, it happens when you follow recipes sometimes, my apologies
08:29
<muppis>
ltsp-client -related packages are meant to be only in clients, as name says, and thus installed only in chroot by ltsp-build-client
08:31
Anywhere else it just mess things up if you don't know what you're doing.
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08:31
<jtornero>
I see. so I've transformed m machine in a client of itself and thus the big mess. I should have installed only the server and ltsp-build-client is meant for creating the "user folder" for the clients
08:33
<muppis>
About yes. :D by default ltsp-build-client makes two directories under /opt/ltsp. One is for chroot, where you can install localapps and finetune settings for them and images -directory which serves file where clients are actually booted if using nbd, which is case by default in *buntu.
08:36
<jtornero>
I see. Is there any chance of reverting the situation?
08:38
<muppis>
Easy way: Reinstall everything from bone. Hard way: Purge everything ltsp -related and relatives, fix manually if something is still broken and reinstall *only* ltsp-server -related packages.
08:39work_alkisg is now known as alkisg
08:40
<jtornero>
OMG
08:41
<muppis>
Like I said, ltsp-client -packages outside from chroot makes a mess.
08:42
<alkisg>
Nah, they work fine
08:42
As a matter of fact, ltsp-pnp is based on the ltsp-client* packages being installed on the ltsp server
08:43
<jtornero>
Well, reinstall it from bone is not an option. Purge everthing... don't know how, I can't even acess to my hard drives. It is matter of "saying" to m machine to start as my machina and not like aclient
08:43
<alkisg>
jtornero: boot from a live cd and pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
08:43
!pastebin
08:43
<ltsp>
pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
08:46
<jtornero>
ok!! hold a little!!! I guess it could have something to do with grub, but if ltsp guts seems chinese to me, this is Martian!!!
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10:37
<jtornero>
hello again. After some struggles to find grub.cfg, I've been able to make the pastebin http://pastebin.com/B7jxN40i
10:38
alkisg
10:38
muppis
10:40
<alkisg>
OK, nothing ltsp-related there, the kernel command line is:  linux   /vmlinuz-3.13.0-35-generic root=UUID=60747f11-d763-487c-9371-7fa8effe660a ro nomodeset quiet splash $vt_handoff
10:40
So the problem doesn't appear to be ltsp-related...
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10:43
<ricotz>
hello, how is jetpipe suppose to work in 5.4.x and later? i was using ubuntu 12.04/precise and upgraded to 14.04/trusty. i noticed that the initscript "50-jetpipe" is gone. reinstating it from the previous ltsp-client solves the problem and making the local client-printer work again
10:44
<jtornero>
so what could make it to boot into ltsp0?
10:45
<alkisg>
ricotz: it should be ran from the ltsp service, /etc/init/ltsp-client-core.conf on ubuntu, because init-ltsp.d/50-jetpipe was too early and was causing problems
10:45
File a bug report against ubuntu-ltsp (not ltsp upstream)
10:45
!ubuntu-bug
10:45
<ltsp>
ubuntu-bug: To file a bug report for Ubuntu LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp
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10:46
<alkisg>
jtornero: I don't know, you still need to troubleshoot the issue, I've just wrote the things above ^ to clarify that it's not related to the ltsp-client package
10:47
<jtornero>
alksig: ah, ok. Anyone knows any hints about where to look for?
10:47
<alkisg>
jtornero: you could also ask in #ubuntu, it's probably not an ltsp issue
10:47
or in #kubuntu
10:48
<jtornero>
By the way: I just have mounted my / partition to see what is going on and I've found an initrd.img.old adn vmlinuz.old as well as initrd.img and vmlinuz files
10:50
they're soft links. I'll see in #kubuntu
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10:54
<ricotz>
work_alkisg, i see, thanks
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20:47
<phoz>
Hi, can LTSP utilise a GPU to increase rendering performance?
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21:01
<muppis>
phoz, yes, if software supports it or you use fat clients and proper drivers. No, if you mean just regular desktop in thin mode.
21:02
In thins localapps can use GPU with proper driver.
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21:10
<phoz>
muppis, I meant adding a GPU to the server.
21:11
<muppis>
Then maybe from me. :D Haven't tested, but can't see why not.
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