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Channel log from 10 October 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<Matrix3000>
How would i view my lts.conf variables within the thin client itself
02:06
to make sure everything is passed on
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02:10
<Matrix3000>
nevermind i found it out
02:10
getltscfg -a
02:11
except it only works on fat clients
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02:11
<ball>
With ltsp, when is the user's desktop created?
02:12
...when they log into the host somehow?
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02:45
<bakytn>
hello! is it possible to run 2 LTSP servers in the same network?
02:46
anwering by myself - yes
02:58
<ball>
bakytn: sort of
02:59
bakytn: What are you trying to achieve?
03:05
<bakytn>
ball, hello! I have to have RDP and Ubuntu (LDM) on the same LTSP server. It works great! However in order to make work of USB Flashes through RDP I had to tweakt he chroot which eventually broke the Ubuntu's automounting
03:05
ball, so when I set up USB Flahes for RDP users, Ubuntu users can't use USB sticks and vice versa
03:06
I was thinking of having two LTSP servers. One for RDP and another for LDM
03:06
<ball>
"make work of USB Flashes" whatnow?
03:06
Do you mean USB flash drives?
03:06
<bakytn>
yes :) USB flash drives
03:07
<ball>
Why would LTSP even use RDP?
03:07
<bakytn>
why not?
03:07
SCREEN_07 = rdesktop
03:08
working great
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03:09
<ball>
Are you connecting to MS Windows Server hosts?
03:10
(from your ltsp terminals)?
03:11
<jvin>
What's the link for the fastest/easiest LTSP setup on 10.04 LTS? Last LTSP install I did was back on 6.06 or maybe 7.something...
03:12
<bakytn>
ball, of course my Thin Clients are connection to MS Windows hosts
03:12
ball, don't you know that LTSP has a plugin to work in that way? :)
03:12
<ball>
bakytn: I've never heard of that, though I can see why it might be desirable.
03:12
<bakytn>
*connecting
03:13
<ball>
...or at least useful in some environments.
03:13
bakytn: No, I'd never heard of that.
03:13
<bakytn>
ball, actually I was trying to move my users to use Linux (desktop) however...they started to complain...they needed MS Office etc.
03:14
ball, I had to find another solutions. So I just configured RDP
03:14
<ball>
bakytn: I've weaned mine off Wordperfect Office and onto OpenOffice and now LibreOffice
03:14
...so we can move to Linux just as soon as I've weeded out the last couple of nasties
03:15
<bakytn>
ball, so...yes, that's very possible. Actually...I wouldn't be suprised if I know that it's the most popular solutions (LTSP+RDP)
03:15
ball, another problem was Canon printers. I did everything to make them working in LTSP
03:15
ball, so I switched back to Windows ;(
03:16
ball, so..now I 'm trying to have 2 LTSP servers
03:16
<ball>
bakytn: Why two?
03:16
<bakytn>
ball, read my first message to you (above)
03:17
<ball>
A second ltsp server seems like overkill if it's just to work around your chroot issue
03:18
<bakytn>
ball, I can't see any other way to accomplish this
03:19
ball, because when I make USB flash drives working in RDP connections the Linux users can't use flash drives and vice versa
03:19
jvin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
03:20
<ball>
bakytn: I'd look into getting that resolved then.
03:20
I have to go
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<bakytn>
ball, looking :D
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<jvin>
bakytn, Ahh.. thanks. That's just the link I needed...
03:46
bakytn, I saw your note above on cannon printers ... what's different about them than being regular 'network printers'?
03:49
bakytn, I've put old parallel printers on the parallel port of a router & and even a FreeSCO (floppy router on an old pc) system before and it worked well. Maybe that's a solution?
03:50
<bakytn>
jvin, I fought with Canon LBP printers, and they are a pure WinPrinters with their own drivers and they are USB printers
03:50
jvin, even though Canon officially supports Linux, any of their drivers didn't worked for me
03:50
jvin, however, I know that it's possible to make them working finally, I just can't waste any day for them
03:51
*any more day
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<muppis>
How do I give cdrom/dvd access to all ldap users (over 600 accounts) with easy trick?
06:37
<sep>
muppis, pam_group ?
06:39
<muppis>
I'll check that out.
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<jimjimovich>
does anyone know of problems with running the newest versions of firefox as local apps?
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<Hyperbyte>
Define "newest versions"
11:02
And define "problems"
11:07
<jimjimovich>
Hyperbyte, version 6 or 7. and the problem seems to be related to firefox ssh and sshfs
11:08
as soon as Firefox launches on some clients, ssh and sshfs processes start to take up almost 100% of the cpu
11:11
<Hyperbyte>
Hrm
11:11
Firefox settings are stored in ~/.mozilla/firefox/
11:11
What happens if you move that folder, something like cd ~/.mozilla/; mv firefox firefox-disabled
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And then launch Firefox as a local app?
11:12
<jimjimovich>
just tried that a few minutes ago, and it seems to fix the problem
11:12
<Hyperbyte>
It might have something to do with newer Firefox versions not being compatible with some setting or addon, or something.
11:12
<jimjimovich>
no addons installed, and only happening for about half of my clients. and started without upgrading any packages
11:12
very weird
11:12
<Hyperbyte>
It might be good to remove all ~/.mozilla/firefox/ dirs for all users
11:13
<jimjimovich>
yeah, just doesn't sound fun. gotta backup their bookmarks, etc
11:13
<Hyperbyte>
I've had the same problem as well, not even using localapps.
11:14
<jimjimovich>
yeah, i also launched it not as a local app and it managed to slow down the entire 6-core server!
11:14
one instance of Firefox
11:19
well, that was certainly the problem. looks like it's time to write a script to backup bookmarks, delete .mozilla folders, etc
11:22
<Hyperbyte>
That, or find the exact problem and delete just those things
11:25
Interesting by the way that it slows down a 6-core server, since Firefox isn't multithreaded
11:26
Perhaps it was overusing the harddisk
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<jimjimovich>
perhaps
11:27
just going to write a general script for backing up bookmarks and making a new profile
11:27
not worth hunting down the problem
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<jason___>
good morning
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<artista_frustrad>
morning
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<Hyperbyte>
Afternoon! ;-)
12:39
jason___, how are you progressing?
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<jason___>
Hyperbyte: well I'm at a little bit of a stand still.
12:40
Hyperbyte: the clients are able to boot now. but they refuse to log in to local accounts.
12:42
<alkisg>
jason___: you need to run ltsp-update-image *after* ltsp-update-sshkeys
12:42
<jason___>
could have sworn I did... but that was days ago - let me try again!
12:42
<alkisg>
No, you said you did it the opposite way
12:42
<jason___>
okay, giving it a shot now.
12:43
I could have sworn I've updated sshkeys before on intel platforms without updating the image and never had an issue????
12:44
<Hyperbyte>
jason___, only possible if you were using some implementation of LTSP that relies on NFS, like Fedora
12:44
Those don't use images, but a live filesystem over the network. Hence no need to update images.
12:44
<jason___>
I see. But no, I was on Ubuntu. Perhaps I'm mistaken... it was like... April? that I set them up anyway.
12:44
<Hyperbyte>
With NBD implementations (like Ubuntu) you need to run ltsp-update-image for -every- change you make in /opt/ltsp/
12:45
<jason___>
I see
12:45
is NFS more common than NBD?
12:45
<alkisg>
In distros or in user-base numbers?
12:46
<jason___>
distros.
12:46
<alkisg>
I'd say no
12:46
Ah sorry
12:46
Yes
12:46
<Hyperbyte>
Actually, Fedora has switched to NBD I think.
12:46
<alkisg>
NFS is more common than NBD counted in distro's defaults
12:46
<Hyperbyte>
Or at least Warren was trying
12:47
<alkisg>
I think so too, and that's about it, right?
12:47
<jason___>
still isnt logging in...
12:47
<alkisg>
!SCREEN_02
12:47
<ltsp>
alkisg: SCREEN_02: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN
12:47
<alkisg>
jason___: get a local shell and try this from there:
12:47
ssh <user>@server
12:47
Replace <user> with an existing username. Don't replace server with anything at all.
12:47
<Hyperbyte>
jason___, you did also reboot the client after updating the image, right?
12:48
<jason___>
Hyperbyte: of course
12:48
<Hyperbyte>
Of course.
12:51
In addition to what alkisg just told you, do an ls /opt/ltsp/images/ Which files are there?
12:51
<jason___>
just powerpc.img
12:52
<Hyperbyte>
You're still on the Mac server I assume?
12:53
<jason___>
yes
12:53
<Hyperbyte>
k
12:53
<jason___>
02 screen doesn't give me a prompt??
12:53
just a flashing dash
12:53
on a black screen...
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<Hyperbyte>
Pastebin your lts.conf
12:53
<jason___>
its empty, aside from
12:53
[Default] SCREEN_02=shell SCREEN_07=ldm
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<alkisg>
jason___: check your server /var/log/auth.log. Do you see the login attempts that you did before on the client?
12:56
(03:53:46 μμ) jason___: [Default] SCREEN_02=shell SCREEN_07=ldm ==> those are on separate lines, right?
12:56
<jason___>
uh, I think so.
12:56
alkisg: yes
12:56
alkisg: I just copied them from the page you linked me, but mine are identical
12:56
3 separate lines for default/02/07
12:56
<alkisg>
If you see login attempts then X is crashing
12:56
If you don't, it's a key problem
12:56
<jason___>
I think I see login attempts, but let me tail it and try logging in again
12:57
<alkisg>
(if you see failed login attempts, then it's the wrong password :))
12:57
<jason___>
well, I sure hope I know how to spell "password"
12:57
otherwise I've failed quite a few times!
12:58
when I tail it and try logging in, nothing chagnes. but it looks like there are login entries, but it may have been my local administrator user logging in to the server originally??
12:59
<alkisg>
Still sounds like an ssh problem then. Try this:
12:59
LDM_SSHOPTIONS="-o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o CheckHostIP=no -o LogLevel=silent"
12:59
In your lts.conf
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<alkisg>
This overrides all ssh key checks
13:00
jason___: ah
13:01
I remember that you also have problems with the tftp dirs
13:01
So it's quite possible that you're putting your lts.conf to the wrong path
13:01
And so it's not read by the client
13:01
Put it somewhere, but then do symlinks to all other locations
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/ltsp/powerpc/lts.conf <= the original
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/ltsp/lts.conf => symlink
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etc
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/lts.conf => symlink
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Do relative symlinks, not absolute, tftpd-hpa needs them all under the tftp roo
13:02
t
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<jason___>
some of that is spanish to me, as I'm not sure what relative vs aboslute is. is this the ln -s command to create??
13:04
alkisg: here's a question quick.
13:04
before we go further this might be wise to have answered.
13:04
this PPC Server is temporary, and its only use from her eon out will be to update the chroot when need be.
13:04
Is it likely if I move this chroot to the Intel server, I'd eliminate these problems?
13:05
<alkisg>
No
13:05
<jason___>
I DONT need users to log in with the PPC server. I just needed the PPC server for the chroot.
13:05
<alkisg>
You'll need ltsp-update-sshkeys && ltsp-update-image again
13:05
<jason___>
On the intel server?
13:05
<alkisg>
Yes
13:05
<TheMatrix3000>
morning people
13:05
<jason___>
Right, but is it likely once I do that, TFTP ad logging in will behave?
13:05
and*
13:06
<alkisg>
No, since it doesn't behave now
13:06
<jason___>
okay
13:06
I just wanted to make sure we weren't chasing a dead end with a PPC-only issue (assuming it was only a PPC issue)
13:06
<Hyperbyte>
TheMatrix3000, getltscfg -a isn't just for fat clients, by the way.
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<TheMatrix3000>
how do I get it to work on Thin Clients?
13:07
install the package?
13:09
<Hyperbyte>
TheMatrix3000, no, it works on thin clients already.
13:09
Just be sure to run the command -on the thin client-, rather than -on the server-
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!localxterm
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<ltsp>
Hyperbyte: localxterm: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
13:09
<TheMatrix3000>
ah yes
13:09
hahaha
13:10
<jason___>
alkisg: where else should lts be linked to?
13:10
/ltsp/powerpc, /ltsp, etc?
13:10
<alkisg>
jason___: ls -lha -R /var/lib/tftpboot
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And put the results to pastebin
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<jason___>
http://pastebin.com/XjnFY59q
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<alkisg>
Ah, you didn't do the symlinks yet
13:13
No, just 2 two symlinks should be enough
13:13
*those two
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<alkisg>
sudo ln -s ltsp/powerpc/lts.conf /var/lib/tftpboot/lts.conf
13:14
sudo ln -s powerpc/lts.conf /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/lts.conf
13:15
Well, to be 100% sure, I'd also do those:
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sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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sudo ln -s ../powerpc/lts.conf /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
13:15
<jason___>
updat eimage or just reboot client?
13:15
<alkisg>
Just reboot, but enable SCREEN_02=shell too
13:15
So you'll have 4 lines in lts.conf
13:15
[Default]
13:15
SCREEN_02=shell
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SCREEN_07=ldm
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LDM_SSHOPTIONS="-o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o CheckHostIP=no -o LogLevel=silent"
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<jason___>
looks like its still hanging at login...
13:18
er, sec
13:18
yeah Im in...
13:18
delayed reaction
13:18
can I take out the SSH entry in lts.conf and see if that was it?
13:20
<alkisg>
Yes
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<jason___>
alkisg: yeah, failing now to log in
13:24
<alkisg>
jason___: right, so it's still an sshkeys problem
13:24
!ltsp-update-ssheksy
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<ltsp>
alkisg: I do not know about 'ltsp-update-ssheksy', but I do know about these similar topics: 'ltsp-update-sshkeys'
13:24
<alkisg>
!ltsp-update-sshkeys
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<ltsp>
alkisg: ltsp-update-sshkeys: If you changed your server IP, you need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys, and if you're using NBD (Ubuntu) you also need ltsp-update-image afterwards
13:24
<alkisg>
Do both of them
13:25
Again
13:25
<jason___>
doing it now
13:25
<alkisg>
jason___: wait
13:25
It's a good chance to also define a root password in the chroot
13:25
sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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passwd
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exit
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<jason___>
i386?
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<alkisg>
This way you'll be able to login locally, if ever needed
13:26
Sorry, powerpc
13:26
<jason___>
:)
13:26
can I do this in another term while image is updating?
13:26
<alkisg>
Erm yes, but you won't get it then in the current image
13:26
You'd need to re-run ltsp-update-image sometime later for the change to take effect
13:27
<jason___>
should I do that in a separate step so that way I can better isolate what fixes it?
13:27
I hate to do too-much-too-fast and not KNOW what the issue was
13:27
whether it be the root PW or sshkeys... etc...
13:27
<alkisg>
The problem was that you were doing it too fast :)
13:28
You did the update keys after the update image
13:28
Then you probably changed ip again
13:28
Or similar
13:28
The root pass in completely unrelated to your login problems
13:28
So it doesn't need to be a separate step
13:28
But do it however it makes you feel better :)
13:29
<jason___>
looks like I'm back in
13:29
so just to re-cap, was it the ssh keys all along, the location of lts.conf, or both?
13:30
<alkisg>
Only the ssh keys
13:30
<jason___>
I need to look back a few days worth of logs here
13:30
and get my doc up to speed
13:31
once completed I'd like to post it if you guys deem it worthy
13:31
<alkisg>
Don't forget to write a wiki page about installing ltsp in a powerpc :)
13:31
<jason___>
I wonder how probabal it would be that my 10.04 instructions would apply to 11.04 as well
13:31
<alkisg>
Very
13:31
<jason___>
I mean I assume there's a 11.04 PPC ubuntu?
13:31
even though community driven
13:33
<ogra_>
jason___, for G3/4/5
13:33
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
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oh, 11.04
13:34
<jason___>
yeah
13:34
that link looks like its good though
13:34
that there's a 11.10 powerpc build
13:35
<ogra_>
i think 11.04 was to broken for an image, the archive should be good though
13:35
<jason___>
ogra_: what do you mean 11.04 was broken for an image? for an ISO install of PPC?
13:36
ogra_: or do you mean generating a chroot on 11.04 PPC?
13:36
<ogra_>
i mean that we didnt roll images for ppc in 11.04
13:36
<jason___>
we? are you part of that team?
13:36
<alkisg>
jason___: btw, you can have 11.04 on your server and 10.04 for you powerpc chroot
13:36
10.04 will be supported longer than 11.04, so it's better for chroots
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<jason___>
alkisg: I figured so. I was just hoping PPC on Ubuntu wasn't a dead-end as we are likely to bump to 12.04 LTS then. It'd be nice to have 12.04 LTS is what I was getting at. :)
13:37
<alkisg>
It's probable that LTS releases will get more attention than non-LTS ones
13:37
<jason___>
it would make sense
13:38
alkisg: is it likely the symlinking made a difference?
13:38
I should probably remove them and see what happens...
13:38
<ogra_>
jason___, i work on ubuntu
13:38
<alkisg>
jason___: can you switch to vt2?
13:39
<jason___>
vt2?
13:39
<alkisg>
Do you get a shell there?
13:39
<jason___>
ah, sec
13:39
<alkisg>
Alt+ctrl+f2, screen_02
13:39
<jason___>
let me try
13:39
yes
13:39
root@ltsp etc etc
13:39
<alkisg>
So yes, they did make a difference
13:39
<jason___>
but we symlinked it in two areas
13:39
isn't it only needed in one?
13:40
<alkisg>
Yes, it's only needed in one, you can find it out from the tftp logs or by testing
13:40
<jason___>
see there was so much file shuffling that I'm not sure what I should put in the doc
13:40
like, /ltsp and /ltsp/powerpc are the same contents...
13:40
<alkisg>
Now it's the time to check your dhcpd.conf
13:40
It's possible that it points the client to the wrong dirs
13:40
And also your yaboot.conf
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The end result should be not to have any symlinks
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<jason___>
what SHOULD it be? ltsp/powerpc?
13:41
<alkisg>
Yes, like it is on your server now, ltsp/i386/lts.conf
13:41
Just replace i386 with powerpc
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(on your i386 ubuntu server)
13:44
<jason___>
pxelinux should be in the /ltsp dir though, right?
13:44
<alkisg>
I don't think you need pxelinux at all
13:44
You're using yaboot instead
13:44
<jason___>
ah, k. its in the dhcp file
13:44
yaboot should be in ltsp then?
13:44
/ltsp
13:44
pretty sure I have it in 3 locations...
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<alkisg>
I'd put it in /ltsp/powerpc/yaboot
13:45
Where did it go by default?
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(don't take symlinks into account)
13:45
<jason___>
I have no idea. we overwrote it, remember?
13:46
the fixed yaboot came from taht bug report
13:46
<alkisg>
We overwrote it in the same place
13:46
We didn't change its path
13:46
<jason___>
right, but I still had boot issues
13:46
so I copied it to 3 different locs
13:46
<alkisg>
Right, so where is it?
13:46
<jason___>
and it worked
13:46
<alkisg>
Ah, no symlinks there?
13:46
<jason___>
no
13:46
<alkisg>
OK, do this: ls -lha -R /opt/ltsp/powerpc/boot
13:46
And paste the results to pastebin
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<jason___>
its in tftpboot, ltsp, and ltsp/powerpc
13:47
yaboot.conf has an image entry for /ltsp/powerpc/vmlinux
13:48
if its worth mentioning
13:48
<alkisg>
OK, the pastebin of the above ls? ^
13:48
<jason___>
I think its supposed to be in /ltsp/powerpc, because I have yaboot.conf.old in there
13:48
sec
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<alkisg>
It does sound logical
13:49
<Hyperbyte>
I feel an incredible urge to rant. :(
13:49
<jason___>
at me? :P
13:49
<Hyperbyte>
There is this Dutch company that does all telecom connections...
13:49
<jason___>
oh. ha...
13:50
<Hyperbyte>
And I need them to move one connection from one room to another. Piece of cake, my little sister could do it, but officially only they are allowed to do it.
13:50
So you have to formally ask them to come and do it. Can't do it by phone, have to do it online!
13:50
I just filled out FIVE PAGES of information, for them to move ONE phone line box TEN meters.
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13:50* Hyperbyte sighs.
13:51
<jason___>
http://pastebin.com/jATUXL77
13:51
<Hyperbyte>
And it wouldn't be so bad... but in order to be more "user-friendly" (I guess) they decided default HTML forms weren't good enough for them. They had to mock up their own horrible substitute.
13:51
Doesn't work with alt+tab, doesn't work with Firefox...
13:51* Hyperbyte cries
13:51
<Hyperbyte>
I had to use Windows! :(
13:51
I feel so violated... and dirty...
13:52
<alkisg>
jason___: so ltsp/powerpc/yaboot and ltsp/powerpc/yaboot.conf seem like the proper places
13:52
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg please hug me. :(
13:52
<jason___>
yeah
13:52
alkisg: I'm going to remvoe the others and see what happens
13:52* alkisg hugs Hyperbyte and gives him a wine IE installation
13:52
<Hyperbyte>
:)))))
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<TheMatrix3000>
I could actually use some Wine right now
14:01
some Melot? possibly
14:01
;)
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<Hyperbyte>
Pfff
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14:13* Hyperbyte smacks TheMatrix3000
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<Hyperbyte>
And that's not just for misspelling "Merlot"!
14:15
<jason___>
this yaboot thing is so bizarre. If I have the yaboot and yaboot.conf file in tftpboot, it boots to osx. if I have those two files in /tftpboot/ltsp, it goes to a gray screen and locks up. if I have those two files in /tftpboot/ltsp/powerpc, it goes to osx as well.
14:15
it working requires those two files to be in all 3 locations
14:16
/tftpboot, /tftpboot/ltsp, and /tftpboot/ltsp/powerpc
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<fgth>
Hi all
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<Hyperbyte>
jason___, I bet it wants yaboot in /tftpboot/ltsp/ and yaboot.conf in /tftpboot/ltsp/powerpc. Try that.
14:18
Else it wants the .conf in just /tftpboot/
14:19
<jason___>
doesnt appear to work. It netboots and locks up with the network icon on the gray screen
14:19
trying with conf in tftpboot now...
14:20
bingo
14:21
<alkisg>
jason___: paste your dhcpd.conf
14:23
<jason___>
http://pastebin.com/7UisjFkd
14:24
<fgth>
Please forgive a newbie and probably already asked question, but for now google was not my friend and I find nothing revelant :/ So my problem is : mounting a ltsp server with two network interfaces, I want that the thin clients only see a private one (mean : only eth0, not eth1 used on the server to access another network). When a thin client boots, on a text console I have a chrooted environment (own hostname, only on network inter
14:24
face on the right network). But when gnome launches, I'm like on the server (in gnome-terminal, server hostname, it see the two interfaces, and so on...). Can I have a chrooted GUI ? And if yes, how?? Thanks
14:25
<alkisg>
jason___: filename      "/ltsp/yaboot";
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<alkisg>
This doesn't seem right
14:26
<jason___>
why not?
14:26
<alkisg>
Shouldn't it be "/ltsp/powerpc/yaboot" ?
14:26
else {         filename    "/ltsp/pxelinux.0";
14:26
And this should be: else {         filename    "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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<jason___>
thats how it came from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup
14:26
let me edit it and see what happens
14:27
<alkisg>
Remember to correct that web page too.
14:28
<jason___>
crossarch setup??
14:28
<alkisg>
Yes
14:28
<jason___>
I wasn't aware I could edit it
14:28
<alkisg>
That's where you should write your page too
14:29
<jason___>
sounds good
14:29
<alkisg>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/PowerPC
14:29
<jason___>
failed to boot though too :(
14:29
<alkisg>
Create that one, and keep your notes there
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<alkisg>
Did you restart dhcp3-server?
14:29
<jason___>
alkisg: stop being a genius :(
14:29
<alkisg>
And, did you actually move the file there?
14:29
Elementary, dear Watson :)
14:30
<jason___>
files were moved yes
14:30
just forgot to reboot the service
14:30
looks like its locking up @ solid gray screen again
14:31
<alkisg>
When you're troubleshooting yaboot, do put yaboot.conf everywhere
14:31
And when you troubleshoot yaboot.conf, do put yaboot everywhere
14:31
Also verify that yaboot.conf is correct
14:31
<jason___>
I did put yaboot and yaboot.conf everywhere
14:31
when it was in 3 locations, it worked fine
14:31
so I moved both files, together, to one location
14:32
and rebooted 3 times with the files in different locations
14:32
each one filed, however got slightly different responses
14:34
<alkisg>
Put 1 yaboot and 3 yaboot.conf
14:34
This way you'll verify that /ltsp/powerpc/yaboot works
14:34
Also, pastebin your yaboot.conf
14:35
<jason___>
one yaboot, three yaboot.conf works
14:35
pastebin coming in as ec
14:36
I have to flash-drive over any pastebins so it takes me a second
14:36
<alkisg>
sudo apt-get install pastebinit
14:36
pastebinit file
14:36
<jason___>
not on the main network
14:37
http://pastebin.com/89CpsZJu
14:41
<alkisg>
Looks ok, so, if you try removing 2 of the yaboot.conf files and leave only one, can you find where it downloads it from?
14:41
(or just check the tftp logs I say again :))
14:42
<jason___>
where are tftp logs stored?
14:42
also, am I unable to edit these ubuntuw iki pages?
14:44
<alkisg>
Create an account and login
14:45
The tftp logs are in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/daemon.log
14:45
<jason___>
I already had an account
14:45
launchpad acct
14:45
<alkisg>
You uploaded some of those 2 days ago
14:45
<jason___>
ah I didnt realize tftp was part of syslog
14:45
I thought itd be separate
14:46
I'm a little confused at this log. I'm copying it nowt o pastebin, sec...
14:48
http://pastebin.com/906vDaZ9
14:48
line 14
14:48
filename yaboot.conf
14:48
no path????
14:49
<alkisg>
That means "current path", I suppose it ends up seeking it in /var/lib/tftpboot
14:49
<jason___>
so its likely yaboot.conf is needed in tftpboot
14:49
let me delete the previous 2 and see
14:50
yep. bingo.
14:51
alkisg: wereyou suggesting I edit the existing crossarch page to change the paths? Because I wasnt seeing how I could edit it.
14:51
<alkisg>
Yes, there's an "edit page" lijnk
14:51
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup?action=edit&editor=text
14:51
You need to be logged in first
14:52
<jason___>
alkisg: gotcha. it was semi hidden on my browser. apologies!
14:52
there; fixed
14:56
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/PowerPC#preview
14:56
work in progress
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<alkisg>
Only you can see that
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<alkisg>
You need to save it for us to see it
14:57
Ah, ok
14:57
sudo apt-get install ltsp-stand-alone openssh
14:57
==> wrong command
14:57
<jason___>
oh?
14:57
oh my
14:57
it is
14:57
<alkisg>
It's not called ltsp-stand-alone
14:57
<jason___>
ltsp-server-standalone
14:58
f5
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<jason___>
it formatted weird when I copied it from my google doc
14:58
I have some double entries on accident
14:58
like the build client commands, etc
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15:03
<jason___>
alkisg: I have some days worth of irc logs to go through, but I'll complete that page best I can. I think a lot of districts might be interested in it.
15:03
<alkisg>
That's the spirit :)
15:03
<jason___>
alkisg: my cousin runs a tech sub-group on facebook, and on there alone a few people showed interest and there's only 100 members or so.
15:04
<alkisg>
Yeah it'd be a pitty for all those machines to be left aside
15:04
<jason___>
despite the fact I'm throwing this wiki up, a big thanks goes to you and several others here (vagrantc, Hyperbyte , and others Im sure) who did a lot of the leg work with helping me troubleshoot
15:05
a lot being a severe understatement
15:06
just curious, do these irc logs ever expire?
15:06
<alkisg>
No
15:06
(wrt Hyperbyte's server :D)
15:06
<jason___>
nevermind - I just saw 2006 entries
15:06
haha, very nice
15:07
alkisg: what would you bet on this chroot being ported to the intel server and it working with minimal fuss?
15:07
because thats the last hurdle...
15:07
<alkisg>
I'm guessing you'll only need the sshkeys combo
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<jason___>
what dirs should I copy? /var/lib/tftpboot, /opt/ltsp/powerpc ???
15:09
<alkisg>
Yes
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<fgth>
Hey guys, is it possible that the solution to my "GUI chrooted" problem was a "FAT-client" install ?
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<fgth>
OK. I'm on an Ubuntu alternate. Adding LTSP_FATCLIENT=True in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, I find that the GUI on the thin client continue to ask for a user created on the server (not in the chroot) BUT, after, I fall in a terminal console instead of the gnome desktop.
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<fgth>
In this console, when using "sudo ifconfig" it's a user created IN THE CHROOT that is needed. The hostname and the network are those of the chrooted environment
15:51
So : maybe it just lakes a X + desktop installation in the chroot ?
15:52
And so : how install it (which packets I mean,)
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<alkisg>
fgth: your object is to install some eclipse plugins right?
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<fgth>
OK. Maybe tomorrow will be another day.
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<alkisg>
I'm sure it will
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<jason___>
ahh yes
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time to replicate
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