IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 22 August 2017   (all times are UTC)

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<fuzzmew>
sorry I'm back now. I'm getting some WeIrD errors. ---- update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-92-generic
06:21
Errors were encountered while processing:
06:21
mint-artwork-common
06:21
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
06:21
I am running Linux mint 18.2
06:22
my server is AMD 8 core 4Ghz with 32 Gb ram
06:32
<bennabiy[m]>
fuzzmew: I will look into that. I wonder if my package was not uploaded to the mint server
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<fuzzmew>
I dont know where the mint guide is I tried the one on the ltsp site, no joy, tried several pages and the wiki and no joy, I just don't know what I'm doing wrong unless it is that I am not using the mint guide, where ever that is
06:36
and many thankx for looking into it
06:36
<bennabiy[m]>
fuzzmew: I used to run mint, and might go back to it, but I have not updated the scripts for the latest mint, which means that something might have changed. Granted, it shouldn't have, but it might have. I can fire up a VM tomorrow possibly and see if I can get it to work fine
06:38
<fuzzmew>
Many thanks for doing it, I will ask tomorrow then.
06:41
<bennabiy[m]>
later in the day, if you could, as I will not be getting an early start (this is a late night for me)
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<professor_>
Como adicionar os computadores ligados a central?
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<paipy>
hello
12:38* vagrantc waves
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13:52
<alkisg>
!nbd-client
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<ltsp>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
13:52* vagrantc wonders where the bot lives, and how we could back up it's factoids
13:53
<alkisg>
It's in ltsp.org, and I've done a backup 2 months ago...
13:53
I asked jammcq to host the server myself, he'll talk to Ron about the name first and he'll tell us later...
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<vagrantc>
additionally, could we just dump the factoids to a webpage periodically?
13:54
could generate a FAQ from that
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<alkisg>
I would prefer reading the factoids from a web page, if someone will invest the time to code that part... :)
13:58
A nice wiki with FAQ etc
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Now the factoids are chaotic, e.g.
13:58
!v
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<ltsp>
v: vagrantc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!
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<vagrantc>
heh
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<vagrantc>
it's nice to be able to reference the factoids directly in irc when someone asks, but they're hidden if you don't know what to look for
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<alkisg>
I think supybot supports !find or !list or some other commands to list all of the factoids
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<vagrantc>
it usually only gives a partial list
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!halp
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<ltsp>
Error: "halp" is not a valid command.
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<vagrantc>
!list
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<ltsp>
Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Factoids, MeetBot, Misc, Owner, RSS, Seen, Status, Time, User, and Utilities
14:05
<vagrantc>
!factoids list
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<ltsp>
Error: The "Factoids" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "list" in it. Try "list Factoids" to see the commands in the "Factoids" plugin.
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<vagrantc>
!list factoids
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<ltsp>
alias, change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, rank, search, unlock, and whatis
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<vagrantc>
anyways...
14:05
passing thoughts for implementation *someday* :)
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<alkisg>
Hrm. nbd-client shows a lot of errors while mounting the image in recent versions... I wonder if that affects everyone, or just me...
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Buffer I/O error on dev nbd0, attempted send on invalid socket etc etc
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And yet after the 15 initial errors, everything works fine
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<alkisg>
nbd-server now supports "allowlist" to list the exports, nice!
14:31
We don't enable it by default though...
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vagrantc: one of the problems I was having with ltsp-manager is, how to provide different defaults that the stock ltsp-config
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E.g. ltsp-config creates a dnsmasq with port=0, i.e. disable DNS
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While since we're already using dnsmasq, why not have it cache the requests, serve dns in the internal nic, etc etc, i.e. have #port=0 commented out
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I tried using sed to comment it out, in `initial-setup.sh`, but in the next ltsp-config dnsmasq --overwrite, that was lost again
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Would you like to default to enabling dns too in ltsp dnsmasq example, or should I search for some other way to override it specifically for people using ltsp manager?
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<vagrantc>
i have no problem with enabling dnsmasq's DNS support ... i thought you had originally disabled it due to conflicts with ubuntu?
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: no, I think originally you didn't like enabling dns by default...
14:37
The ubuntu bits, about "bind-interfaces" etc, are commented out in the example,
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because even if those are used, ubuntu is still borked :D
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Fortunately systemd-networkd and debian introduced a lot of changes and they got bored of maintaining the dnsmasq local resolver hack, and they will drop it (or they already dropped it in 17.10, I don't monitor non-lts versions)
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ltsp-manager's initial-setup.sh undoes the ubuntu dnsmasq local resolver hack, so no problem there
14:41
Cool, I'll upload a new example dnsmasq.conf
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bbiab
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<vagrantc>
only risk is if someone else already had it configured in some other way...
14:42
could also have a second dnsmasq.d fragment to enable and/or disable it
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14:42
<engelbert>
hello everybody
14:44
is here someone who has experiance with hardware for LTSP Server?
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<vagrantc>
!ask | echo engelbert
14:46
<ltsp>
engelbert ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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<vagrantc>
you've asked a question, but maybe be more specific
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:)
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: many thing in ltsp depend on the arch, just because we decided to name the tftp subdirs etc based on the arch
15:56
That's a good thing for people using several chroots etc, but not for people using only one chroot or ltsp-pnp
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How about making the default e.g. /opt/ltsp/default or /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/default, even if it's a symlink?
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That way, dhcpd, dnsmasq, etc etc, everything could just point to the default by default, so that we don't have to sed or use examples.in files that substitute $ARCH depending on the build arch...
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ltsp-update-image or ltsp-update-kernels can take care of generating the default symlink if it doesn't exist already
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(I was thinking to symlink /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf to the examples dir, then I saw we'd need to use an ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf.in to make it arch specific, then I thought, why do we want this to be arch specific when it can be "all", and I ended up to the "default" symlink idea...)
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Btw, I'll split the proxy-dhcp ranges to a different file, e.g. ltsp-server-dnsmasq-ranges.conf, so that the main file can be just a symlink
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<engelbert>
hello
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<alkisg>
Hi engelbert
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<bennabiy[m]>
alkisg: I like the idea of defaulting to "default" for the chroot, as a symlink.
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<alkisg>
Cool, we have +2 so far :D
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: i've thought about such a thing in the past... no strong objections in theory
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<alkisg>
Nice
16:34
It's good that we're early in the debian release cycle, it's easier to convince to accept changes :D
16:35
*you
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<vagrantc>
indeed
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it also helps that it's an idea i had years ago, but didn't get much interest then
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<olivier>
hello
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<Guest15423>
bonsoir
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