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Channel log from 1 August 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<krinns>
hp 1020 behaves odd in ubuntu
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it pronts from windows but not from ubuntu some times
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any idea?
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<krinns>
how i remotely monitor my printers
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any tool available from command line?
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<whiprush>
krinns: cups has an entire suite of cli tools
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look at their man pages.
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<krinns>
which one
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<whiprush>
you likely won't find much printing help here, this is mostly for people who need ltsp-specific support
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<whiprush>
http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/doc/suse/suse9.1/adminguide9.1/ch05s07.html
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google returns this page first
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but yeah, lpstat and friends
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they all mostly start with lp. :)
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<whiprush>
http://www.cups.org/doc-1.1/sum.html
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seems to be a great resource as well
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krinns: I'd love to tell you that it's all easy and trivial, but it isn't. Printing is a pain and the only way to handle the beast is to learn all this crap. Sorry. :-/
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<krinns>
ya
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printing is really crap
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all my printers are working except one 1020 and 1022
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<whiprush>
I dealt with printers all of yesterday, it can be extremely frustrating
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<krinns>
though am running 1022 already
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<Envit1>
Hola a todos desde España
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Hello all from Spain
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
hi
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i have installed LTSP5, but it doesn't has /lib/modules/2.6.9-lts-3 directory
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can u give me an address that i can download those.
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?
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<Q-FUNK>
m_pahlevanzadeh: which distribution?
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
debian
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Q-FUNK, Debian
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Q-FUNK , of course, not differences
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<Q-FUNK>
we haven't use kernel 2.6.9 in ages
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it sounds like LTSP 4.x
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<menoz>
hi all! I've some problems with home file permissions, can somebody help me?
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I'm using debian etch, and all seems to work
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except for one thing: users cannot write or modify files in theis homes.
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<menoz>
I think the problem isn't in the NFS server, but in the client itself which mounts the partition as Read-only.
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Is it possible?
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Otherwise... can you give me some precious advice?
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<cliebow>
menoz:nfs mount of the root filesystem shouldnt affect the home you see
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on a client
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<menoz>
ok but is it normal that any user cannot modify or create any file in their home?
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<cliebow>
seems wonky..what distro is thisx?
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<menoz>
etch
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debian
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<cliebow>
heh..you already said so..vagrantc is the feller to ask..
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is this using local apps?
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<ogra>
are you using a fat client setup over there ?
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<cliebow>
menoz: ask the guru here..
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<menoz>
well, good point: I do not know how and were to set up the fat/thin behaviour
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<ogra>
ok
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<menoz>
however, I do want thin client.
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<ogra>
so where do you mount the home ? on the client ? or just from another server to the server ?
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<menoz>
on the client I see the /opt/ltsp/i386/home/user directory
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and that isn't writable
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but I do not mount any other dirs.
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<ogra>
what for would you need that ? there are no users on a thin client (and there shouldnt be) root is even locked in the default setup
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<cliebow>
if using a gui you should be seeing your server desktop...
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<ogra>
if you log in you are running the session on the server, there is no need to mount any home to the client
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<menoz>
And if I (the user) want to create a document? Where will I store it?
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<ogra>
on the server in the users home
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<menoz>
ok, this is the behaviour I need
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but acrually
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<ogra>
right, that happens automatically
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no need to tweak anything
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just create the users you want on the server and be happy :)
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<menoz>
well.. actually, on my machine I see the kdm login manager (that I've installed in the chroot)
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<ogra>
thats broken
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<menoz>
Shouldn't I install thinks in chroot?
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<ogra>
remove the chroot and run ltsp-build-client again
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no
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unless you know exactly what you are doing
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<cliebow>
?
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ahhh
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<menoz>
great :) I was wrong, and this make me VERY happy because now I start to realize how it works! :)
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so, I run ltsp-build-client
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<ogra>
the thin client boots a readonly filesystem via nfs from the server, starts X and various other essential services and runs ldm, the ltsp login manager
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<menoz>
and then... I think I should install kde or similar on the main server, right?
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<ogra>
if you log in through that, the command ssh -X $USER@$SERVER /etc/X11/Xsession is executed
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<cliebow>
menoz:you do hasve a gui on server right?
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<gypsymauro>
hi
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<ogra>
so actually you're logged in on the server now ;)
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<cliebow>
ho!
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<menoz>
yep, I'm logged
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I'm erasing /opt/ltsp
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<gypsymauro>
I've installed ltsp 5 on ubuntu feisty and it works , but I want ltspfs to mount just floppy and usb keys not CD or local partitions on terminals, how can I achieve this?
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<menoz>
and now I'm running ltsp-build-client
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<ogra>
gypsymauro, sudo chmod -x /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/cdpinger gets rid of CDs quick and dirty
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<gypsymauro>
ogra: ok and for the disk?
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<ogra>
no easy solution
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<cliebow>
ogra:those are in fuse rules?
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<gypsymauro>
I looked at udev rules but I didn't achieve that
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<cliebow>
heh..i mean udev
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<ogra>
right, they are in the ltspfs udev rules
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<gypsymauro>
yes but I didn't understand how to add this one.. I dunno exaclty where is the point where it understand that is a disk
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<ogra>
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432024
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there is a patch, try it :)
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<cliebow>
and report back 8~)
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<ogra>
(note the naming of the fstab file is different in feisty (IIRC))
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<menoz>
ogra: Thanks you very much for your help! ;) Now it seems working, thanks!!!
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<ogra>
gypsymauro, the thing is, it doesnt understand its a disk :)
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it just sees a blockdevice of any kind
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<ogra>
that code definately needs improvement, but focus until gutsy was on bootspeed and new ldm
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i think we'll have more ltspfs work in gutsy+1
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s/have/do/
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<joebaker>
Ogra: Goodmorning to you. Did you see that guy the other day who
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was talking about his usb over ethernet solution?
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<ogra>
i heard about the project but didnt see any guy here
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<joebaker>
Apparently he can get a usb device on a thin client to show up on the server's
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usb chain as a local device.
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
a problem: i don't have /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/2.6.9-ltsp-3
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plz help me
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<joebaker>
He poked his head into the irc channel a couple days back.
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<ogra>
joebaker, if its the project i know it needs a lot of kernel patches
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which is no option for us
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since ltsp5 relies on a consistent handling of stuff in the distros
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<joebaker>
I understand. I didn't need it, just thought I'd mention it.
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<ogra>
we're working on a hal module to have devices available in that layer
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<joebaker>
neat
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
joebaker, Do you have /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/2.6.9-ltsp-3 on your server?
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<ogra>
which should be sufficient and lesst intrusive :)
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<joebaker>
m_pahlevanzadeh checking....
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My ltsp 5 implementation has 2.6.20-15-386 instead.
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Checking an older machine...
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<ogra>
there was no 2.6.9 ltsp5
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
joebaker, i have ltsp5 too 2.6.18
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<ogra>
sounds like feisty
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(or was that 2.6.20 ....)
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<joebaker>
I've got an old deployment probably (4.1) 2.4.26-ltsp-2
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
joebaker, but when my client starting to boot, kernel mentions to /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/2.6.9-ltsp-3
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<ogra>
yeah, 2.4 is surely ltsp 4
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<joebaker>
And another (4.2) 2.6.16.1-ltsp-1 and 2.6.16.1-ltsp-2
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<ogra>
m_pahlevanzadeh, looks like you have messed up your ltsp install
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<joebaker>
m_pahlevanzadeh: Your DHCP configuration file would tell what kernel to load.
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ok
09:13
thx
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<joebaker>
Maybe you could examine what kernel you have and make that
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available in the dhpcd.conf file.
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
wow
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<ogra>
well
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that should all have heppened by default
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i guess you tried to install ltsp4 and ltsp5 alongside
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
joebaker, i changing tftpd directory, therefore i can't see it
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<ogra>
all you need for ubuntu is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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so i'd suggest cleaning up the mess and start over
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
joebaker, i have changed to 2.6.18 & receive new error: nfsmount : need a path
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<cliebow>
showmount -3
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showmount -e
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
wow
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problem does relates to dhcp
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<Q-FUNK>
ogra: does mkelfimage 2.7-3 build and work on ubuntu?
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<ogra>
Q-FUNK, still busy with ldm .... i didnt get any error notice for it so i assume yes
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
joebaker, i have readed http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg31342.html story & i operated to them.but my problem is lived.
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<cliebow>
m_pahlevanzadeh, maybe you should pastebot your dhcpd.conf
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<cliebow>
!pastebot
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<ltspbot`>
cliebow: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<ogra>
well, if he uses ltsp5 there should be one in place
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unless vagrant brke that while puling from ubuntu :P
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<cliebow>
something pretty wierd there..
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<ogra>
well, thats debian
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
cliebow, i use dhcp3
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<ogra>
they inisist on having *everything* configurable, even if it breaks usablility
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so the sexy default setup we have upstream and in ubuntu isnt really used in debian, lots of manual work
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but i guess users wahnted that if they coose debian :)
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<ltsppbot>
"m_pahlevanzadeh" pasted "my dhcpd.conf" (73 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/247
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
cliebow, plz consider my dhcpd.conf
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<ogra>
filename needs to be:
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filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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thatws where the default points to
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<exodos>
hi, i'm working on enabling ltspfs support under freeNX, where can I find some more info about ltspfs authentication?
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<ogra>
option 128 and 129 only make sense if you have etherboot clients
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exodos, ltspfs in newer releases relies on the ssh tunnel to be authenticated properly
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all commmunication is done through ldm's ssh tunnel
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older releases (in ltsp 4.2) used Xauth data
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<exodos>
nx also uses ssh, isn't there a way to integrate it somewhow?
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<ogra>
exodos, in any case sbalnbeav is your man
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does ssh use a sepatrate tunnel for communication?
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err
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does nx use indeed :)
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we have one that establishes a socket first ....
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through that socket all subsequent actions are executed
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(i.e. the users session)
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, i have changed to your suggestion, but i have recevied File not Found before loading kernel
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<ogra>
(or the mounter script for ltspfs devices ;) )
09:48
m_pahlevanzadeh, and you are sure you dont have any ltsp4 stuff installed ? that surely breaks ...
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, i have LTSP5
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<ogra>
ltsp-utils would be3 such a candidate .... we banned it from ubuntu but it still seems to be in debian and not conflict with the ltsp5 packages
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installing that along with ltsp5 and running any of the scripts will break the ltsp5 setup
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, of course, before me, my friend has installed a ltsp4
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ogra, how i do now?
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<ogra>
you could check a ton of settings that were changed ...
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my suggestion would really be to wipe everything ltsp related and start obver
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having both on the system alongside will really only cause trouble
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<exodos>
ogra: which process on terminal is actually starting this ssh tunnel?
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<ogra>
make sure to have no /tftpboot dir, that the tftprrot in /etc/inetd.conf points to the ltsp5 dir, that you use the right rootpath etc ....
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if you have solved all these to get your ltsp5 runjning i have set up 10 ltsp servers with ltsp5... it saves time to start over :)
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exodos, ldm
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the login manager
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, i have tftpd-hpa & its dir pinted to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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ogra, because i coped my kernel files to that
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<ogra>
m_pahlevanzadeh, thats wrong for a start ... really, start over it will take you ages to ficx the bits and pieces
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running ltsp-build-client will take you max 30min on a slow connection ... and all should work fine afterwards if debian didnt break it
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, will i do copy to /tftboot ?
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<ogra>
nbo
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wipe that
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and all other ltsp4 stuff as well
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, ltsp5 create $MYTFTPBOOT/ltsp/i386
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<ogra>
depends
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, although ltsp4 has $MYTFTPBOOT/lts
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<ogra>
if you had ltsp4 before it might have just put its files into that dir alongside with the 4.2 files ...
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the 4.2 packages try to first use /opt/ltsp/i386
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ltsp5 doesnt care and uses that as well
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if you do another 4.2 install it will resort to different dir names
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, wow, i have 2 dir /opt/ltsp & /opt/ltsp-4.2
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, can u say datails?
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
details*
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<exodos>
ogra: i'm reading now sourcecode of ltspfs-0.4.3 (ltsp5 on ubuntu) and it looks like it still uses MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE for authentication. do it use something different in cvs, or is this change planned in the near future?
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, 5 installed kernel modules in both dir
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ogra, where i download 2.6.9-lts-3 modules?
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<ogra>
m_pahlevanzadeh, thats an ltsp4 kernel, you dont want it in ltsp5
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clean up and start over
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exodos, oh, you mean the ltspfsd binary itself ?
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<exodos>
yeah
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<ogra>
it doesnt care about auth at all ... given that a user who wanted to make any use of it wuold first have to hack into the thin client to read device names and fstab structure it doesnt really make sense
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it has a switch for the MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE stuff we dont use
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<exodos>
ok, im lost :)
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, 2.6.18 is loaded,but it messaged me "Running /scripts/nfs-premount ..."
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<exodos>
is there any docs i could read?
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, & it repeats it ....
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<ogra>
m_pahlevanzadeh, i dont have the time to fix every single bit in your setup ... dont install ltsp4 and 5 alongside is the simple solution ...
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clean up your system, pick one and use that
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exodos, if you plug in a device on a client a kernel event is triggered ... udev picks that up and executes a script that adds the device and a mountpoint to fstab ...
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, i didn't time & my boss wants to travel to US, & he told me "wanna to see my server"
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<ogra>
if the tunnel exists it executes a script in the users session on the server ... *that* does the actual mounting from the client to the server
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<exodos>
m'kay
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<ogra>
we scured the trigger and make sure the communication happens through the ssh tunnel
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*secured
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, please read following story , because its same my problem & solved & McQuilan was answered
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ogra, http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg31346.html
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<ogra>
m_pahlevanzadeh, thats a totally different problem about a bug in intramfs where it didnt properly read the root-path entry
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your root-path entry was correct in the dhcpd.conf you pasted
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make sure to revert all changes to inetd.conf use a proper dhcpd.conf (i.e. the one that ltsp5 ships) and make sure to have a clean /opt/ltsp/i386 root built with ltsp-build-client
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, he/she mentioned to Running /scripts/nfs/pre-mount
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<exodos>
ok, so if I would hack a bit nxclient, and start an ssh connection to ltsp-server before the nxclient would log in to the server, ltspfs would work. Am i right?
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<ogra>
m_pahlevanzadeh, this mail is *NOT* related to your prob at all
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, ty for your time
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<ogra>
exodos, even if you create a socket for the nx session .... if you use plain ssh that should be available there as well
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m_pahlevanzadeh, if you want it quickly fixed wipe all ltsp stuff and run ltsp-build-client, really
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unless debian broke it everything will work out of the box then
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
ogra, well done to me
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ogra, i have deleted init=/linuxrc from default file
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ogra, i'm see login page
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ogra, ty
10:17
ogra, ty
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<_EXP>
anyone can help me... i have ltsp terminal and when it boot i get these messages : syslogd: cannot connect to remote host 192.168.0.254:514 /etc/rc.localdev: line 1: A A A A : command not found rc.sysinit completed, switching to multi-session mode
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after that it hangs up
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<cliebow>
the message is irrelevant i think..this is lsp4.x
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?>?
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<_EXP>
ltsp 4.2
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<cliebow>
i think you have video problems..
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what vid card in the client?
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<_EXP>
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<ogra>
and how much ram :)
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(as well as videoram)
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<cliebow>
i'll bet it is an i810
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<cliebow>
Gadi!!!!
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<Gadi>
morning, cliebow
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<cliebow>
what are you building these days??
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<Gadi>
what *arent* we building these days...
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;)
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10:32* ogra just uploaded the latest and greatest ldm from sbalneav to gutsy
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<ogra>
Gadi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LDMrcScripts
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<cliebow>
something new every day..
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course ltsp is new every day 8~)
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<Gadi>
ogra, you definitely help fuel my procrastination - i know if I wait long enough, i'll be able to apt-get upgrade the new ldm ;)
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<ogra>
only until beta freeze :)
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<ogra>
Gadi, get ltsp-client-core as well .. scott made some changes to the screen scripts too
10:34
<Gadi>
ok
10:34
my only complaint of late was when configure.sh moved to core instead of setup
10:34
:(
10:34
<ogra>
configure.sh ?
10:34
<Gadi>
yeah
10:35
<ogra>
which one ?
10:35
we have three atm
10:35
<Gadi>
you call it from /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core
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<ogra>
oh, you mean the X config script
10:35
<vagrantc>
/usr/lib/ltsp/ltsp_config ?
10:35
<ogra>
i eed to rename that :)
10:35
<Gadi>
:)
10:36
before, when you had it in setup, if there were any additional changes I wanted to make, I could run a later init script before core
10:36* vagrantc curses scripts that end in any dot-extension
10:36
<Gadi>
now, I need to patch the file
10:36
<_EXP>
10:36
<ogra>
Gadi, the prob with that is that we eed to start X once o get the DDC info
10:37
<Gadi>
ah
10:37
<ogra>
to make that hidden from te user the only opportunity is to d it right if ldm starts X
10:37* ogra digs for some vowels
10:37* Gadi looks for Vanna White
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<ogra>
Gadi, if you are missing X possibilities i'm fine for fixes :)
10:39
<vagrantc>
ogra: dude. kill the Debian-Edu theme already.
10:39
<Gadi>
ogra: well, they may not be germaine to ltsp
10:40
I am using the LTSP chroot as part of another project
10:40
<cliebow>
_EXP, perhaps you'll have to set SCREEN_01=shell and run startx from there so on client you can read xorg.0.log
10:40
<ogra>
vagrantc, why ? it nicey shows te edubuntu logog :)
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<ogra>
Gadi, setting CONFIGURE_X=False should help as well to skip that scipt btw
10:41
<robbie>
hi all
10:41
<vagrantc>
ogra: because Debian-Edu no longer uses the LDM supplied theme
10:41
<ogra>
i'd really like to have all options for you in to make your life easier ;)
10:41
<Gadi>
ogra: well, I want to use the script still, just making additional mods to the conf file it produces
10:41
ok - but for example, one mod is for touchscreen stuff
10:42
<vagrantc>
and we really need to start making symlinks instead of copying the .pngs to each profile ... or ideally make a default directory and themes only differ (kind of like the plugins for ltsp-build-client)
10:42
<Gadi>
actually, maybe I *could* get some stuff to you that might be of some use
10:42* Gadi will have another look at his mods
10:43
<ogra>
Gadi, thatd be cool and probably help others
10:43
vagrantc, thats what ldm2 does
10:43
<Gadi>
yeah- I have this whole calibration sequence with this really awful calibration utility
10:43
;)
10:43
<ogra>
vagrantc, the make istall only creates the default theme dir
10:43
<Gadi>
but, at the end, it produces lts.conf params
10:43
<ogra>
vagrantc, all other bits are pulled in by me ...
10:43
<Gadi>
and then those munge the conf that your script creates
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<ogra>
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gutsy-changes/2007-August/005622.html
10:44
there we go
10:46
<cliebow>
cool!
10:46
<_EXP>
10:46
<Gadi>
ltsp-client-builder?
10:46
the mackages are having babies ;)
10:47
*packages
10:47
<vagrantc>
ltsp-client-builder is wha debian-installer uses to install LTSP
10:47
it's a hook to cal ltsp-build-client
10:47
<Gadi>
sure. why not?
10:47* vagrantc looks arounf for some consonants
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<cliebow>
_EXP:i have to boot one to see..
10:47
<vagrantc>
it's been around for years
10:47* Gadi drags Vanna White from the dressing room
10:48
<cliebow>
or from her crypt? she must be a hundred years old by now
10:52
<vagrantc>
i should probably give ldm2 a whirl on debian again
10:53
<ogra>
try the new code
10:53
<vagrantc>
newer than what you just uploaded to gutsy ?
10:54
<ogra>
nope
10:54
thats the latest
10:55
<vagrantc>
"new code" != "the latest" ?
10:56
<ogra>
:P
10:56
<vagrantc>
i.e. huh?
10:56
<_EXP>
it hangs up with other machine too... same spot
10:56
<ogra>
merged today ....
10:57
the latest, newst code :P
10:57
<vagrantc>
so, the code you recommend me trying is ... what you just uploaded to gutsy ?
10:58
<ogra>
yep
10:58
<vagrantc>
that took far too long :P
10:58
ogra: when you gonna commit it to gutsy-ltsp ?
10:59
<ogra>
pushed. sorry
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<cliebow>
ogra:newest changed arent readily available are they?
11:30
client-core?
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<_EXP>
is there a possibility that these are caused by ubuntu 7.04 and ltsp 4.2? should I use ltsp 5?
11:41
<vagrantc>
if you're having problems with LTSP 4.2, i would strongly recommend switching to an LTSP 5 implementation, especially if it's on ubuntu.
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<cliebow>
_EXP:you see you are all the way rhru rc.sysinit in 4.2.. it has to be an x prob i'd think
11:46
wanna pastebot your lts.conf?
11:59
<_EXP>
I am installing whole thing from beginning.... i let you know if problem still exist
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<cliebow>
k
12:06
4.2?
12:06
or 5?
12:06
go for 5 8~)
12:09
Yay!! lappie pxe boots!
12:10
Yikes: and so und!!!
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<mattwalston>
What is the status on Fedora using ltsp-5? Anyone here anything about it?
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<klausade>
vagrantc: did you have a look at the crude quasi load-balancing I posted to http://paste.debian.net/33796 ?
12:44
<vagrantc>
klausade: no
12:45
mattwalston: same as always
12:45
mattwalston: not much
12:45
klausade: looking at it now
12:46
klausade: though the python ldm will be obsoleted soonish
12:47
klausade: and for consistancy, subprocess should be used instead of popen
12:48
klausade: but something along those lines is what i was thinking of, yes.
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<klausade>
vagrantc: yeah, neither uf us are any good at python, so someone who knows(tm) should make it better. But we just needed something that would do some kind of balancing, or we would have to go back to ltsp4.2.
12:50
vagrantc: for us this is good enough for a while. But there will be such a feature in ldm2?
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<vagrantc>
klausade: definitely is a planned feature, yes.
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<_EXP2>
cliebow, http://pastebin.com/d1118f6ac
13:02
same problem still
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<vagrantc>
klausade: you making use of the unencrypted feature for LDM ?
13:03
<klausade>
vagrantc: no, not yet. I guess I soon need to. I have a ton of old computers.
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<cliebow>
_EXP2:in 4.2 try SCREEN_01=shell
13:04
or am i answering wring question
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cause you arent getting far enough in startx to use shell in 02
13:06
your client Does know irts hostname from dhcpd.conf?
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<_EXP2>
yes
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i can't get that far to start shell
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<fgiraldeau>
Hi ogra
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<_EXP2>
dmesg shows dozens of these atl1: TX busy
13:08
<fgiraldeau>
ogra: I would like a quick input about the design of pooling of servers for their sessions and languages.
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<_EXP>
i changed both NIC's, still does not work
13:31
but atl1: TX busy disappeared
13:32
it recognizes USB ports and after that i get stuck
13:33
MB is asus P5B-VM SE
13:34
cliebow, still here?
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<cliebow>
EXP_: i defer to someone smarter..but i think there is a hack to reduce the size of nfs packets..maybe that is borking it..
14:20
_EXP, maybe completely wrong but...http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS
14:20
gotta fly..bbl
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<fgiraldeau>
hi ogra
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<shale_>
maybe someone can help... i have a dns entry for a thin client, and a dhcp reservation, but the section [client.ip.address] in lts.conf isn't running. any ideas?
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
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<dberkholz>
hiya
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<cliebow_>
Hey!!!
16:45
ogra: best way to pick up Scotties newest?
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<ogra>
cliebow_, sorry in a meeting ... make sure to have ldm 5.0.22 and ltsp-client-core of the same version in your chroot ... rebuild the image with ltsp-update-image .... done
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<cliebow_>
cool!
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<shale_>
maybe someone can help... i have a dns entry for a thin client, and a dhcp reservation, but the section [client.ip.address] in lts.conf isn't running. any ideas?
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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