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Channel log from 23 January 2019   (all times are UTC)

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06:52
<alkisg>
!kvm
06:52
<ltsp>
kvm: Virtual thin client: kvm -m 256 -vga vmware -ctrl-grab -no-shutdown -net nic,model=virtio -net user,tftp=/var/lib/tftpboot,bootfile=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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08:23
<gintonyc>
hi, i have a problem with my ltsp on Xubuntu, in "system-config-printer" and "mousepad", i can see all the printers which are installed. But in other software like LibreOffice or Evince, i have just "Generic Printer". It's a Xubuntu 16.04 Thanks for the help
08:24
<alkisg>
gintonyc: is this on the server, on fat client, or on thin client?
08:25
<gintonyc>
on the server, no problem, all is ok, i can see the printer everywhere, its on the thin client
08:26
(its network printers)
08:28
<alkisg>
Is it thin client or fat client?
08:28
<gintonyc>
thin client
08:28
<alkisg>
On the thin client, press alt+ctrl+t to open a terminal
08:28
Type "hostname" there
08:29
What does it say?
08:30
<gintonyc>
the name of the server
08:30
<alkisg>
OK, and what's the output of this command?
08:30
env | nc termbin.com 9999
08:32
<gintonyc>
nothing happens, like the command is waiting
08:32
(can't launch other command)
08:32
Ctrl + C to have the prompt again
08:33
<alkisg>
Try it one more time in case the termbin server was having bandwidth issues
08:34
If it fails, just run env > /tmp/env.txt, and then upload /tmp/env.txt to pastebin
08:34
<gintonyc>
ok
08:34
<alkisg>
!paste
08:34
<ltsp>
paste: To avoid channel flooding, please upload text longer than 3 lines to http://paste.debian.net. Don't forget to paste the resulting URL here.
08:40
<gintonyc>
so the termbin, the prompt came back and no result
08:40
the paste : http://paste.debian.net/1062049
08:42
<alkisg>
gintonyc: I don't see anything wrong. If you reboot the server (so that whatever caches exist, are renewed), and it persists, then it needs troubleshooting with VNC.
08:42
<gintonyc>
ok i will try to reboot
08:45
no still the problem, maybe i can upgrade to 18.04...
08:46
<alkisg>
Maybe. I don't think it's a problem with ltsp though.
08:46
Maybe libreoffice etc detect remote connections, and try to hide some printers there
08:47
<gintonyc>
ok i will try the upgrade, i will take a snapshot first :D Thanks for the help ;)
08:47
<alkisg>
Maybe a newer libreoffice or cups etc version will fix it
08:47
np
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13:55
<mwalters>
ugh, all these newer gigabyte brix miniPCs are uefi only =/
13:55
...and refuse to grab the boot image just like the intel nuc I have =/
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13:57
<mwalters>
which I don't really understand, uefi ipxe boots fine, p sure dhcp is configured correctly
13:57
maybe the solution is to just buy a bunch of usb flash drives and put ipxe on them :D
14:08
<||cw>
internal usb ports, ya
14:09
tho my experience with that is failure rates are on the high side and you'lll have no idea one has failed until you try to reboot
14:10
at least with cheap ones. they don't seem to be made for always on use
14:16
<mwalters>
or I guess I could finally figure out what this rom flashing is all about
14:21
<||cw>
I kinda miss the days of removable rom chips
14:22
<mwalters>
I don't miss how large *EVERYTHING* was in the those days ;)
14:23
oh, reflashing onboard roms seems to involve hacking up the bios/uefi image
14:23
no thanks
14:31
alkisg: noticed even after setting SCREEN_DEFAULT=07, my ipxe clients (using uefi) still seem to boot to VT1 sometimes
14:38
<alkisg>
mwalters: which distro/flavour is that? e.g. ubuntu mate 18.04?
14:39
<mwalters>
yeah
14:39
18.04.1, if that makes any difference
14:40
<alkisg>
No it's the same. Oh well I guess ltsp boot scripts fight with systemd. Let's hope ltsp6 arrives this summer :)
14:40
<mwalters>
:D
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14:54
<mwalters>
I'm throwing in the towel on these uefi clients... I just ordered a 10 pack of low profile usb flash drives =/
14:54
<alkisg>
It took me a while, but I managed to netboot all my uefi devices
14:54
<mwalters>
What's really strange, is that ipxe is netbooting the grub image
14:55
I have a couple other clients booting the grub image
14:55
<alkisg>
So now I have a super boot.ipxe script that can boot uefi, non-uefi and even rpi clients
14:55
<mwalters>
it's just these new guys =/
14:55
<alkisg>
*along with dnsmasq.conf
14:55
<mwalters>
I can see dnsmasq responding to them, and offering the grub image, the clients simply don't even try to get it, though
14:56
<alkisg>
Which client is that?
14:56
<mwalters>
I have 1 intel nuc, and just got 5 gigabyte brix things
14:56
nuc is a realtek nic, p sure the gigabytes are too
14:56
what's strange is... I had the nuc booting using isc on 14.04
14:56
p sure my dnsmasq config is just a bit off or something
14:57
it's just strange that the client doesn't even attempt to get the image
14:59
<alkisg>
I think I solved that one a couple of days ago
14:59
Ping me tomorrow, when I'll be at work with my notes
14:59
<mwalters>
cool, thanks
15:00
<fiesh>
NUC is realtek?! what a weird nuc, ours are all Intel (the chipset I'd expect on an Intel product)
15:00
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (3) I218-V (rev 03)
15:00
<mwalters>
yup, really strange
15:01
<fiesh>
but then all our hardware has ISA bridges, I always thought ISA died out in the eighties
15:02
<mwalters>
isa lived on well into the early nineties, probably until the pentium2 era
15:02
I'm sure it lived on in servers well after that
15:03
<fiesh>
well the latest generation NUCs still have it :)
15:03
so clearly it hasn't died out yet
15:03
no idea what it's needed for though
15:04
<mwalters>
oh
15:04
I see what you mean after googling... strange
16:25
!x2go
16:25
<ltsp>
x2go: x2go is an NX-based suite of applications that allow logging in to a remote X server from any OS. It's much more efficient than VNC over slow network. More info: http://www.x2go.org/
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