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Channel log from 4 March 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<celui>
Hello !
03:32
I have a question about LTSP Users ! If i want to create an user, his homedir must be in /home/USER or /opt/ltsp/i386/home/USER ? But i use this command "adduser test -d /opt/ltsp/i386/home". This good or not? Maybe a special command for creta user in LTSP system. Thanks !
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<chrisjrob>
Celui: why are you creating users in the chroot? Only usually created in /home/USER on the server.
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<celui>
Hi, when i create an user, i type adduser test. No more
03:38
<chrisjrob>
Yes.
03:38
You never actually log onto the client, unless you are diagnosing problems
03:39
in which case you use the root account (just set the root password in the chroot to do so)
03:40
when you log in *from* the client, it connects to the server user account
03:41
<celui>
ha ok, i thought it was necessary to create in /opt/ltsp/1386/home ! But the /opt/ltsp/i386/home used for what??
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<chrisjrob>
Nothing
03:41
Mine's completely empty.
03:41
<celui>
hu ok :)
03:44
thas
03:44
thanks ;)
03:47
<chrisjrob>
celui: my pleasure!
03:48
i'm having a complete nightmare with a fresh lenny install. followed http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto. client boot fails with "rpc failed: 2". obviously an nfs problem, but /etc/exports seems okay.
03:50
<celui>
You have stop the firewall during the test? Or PORTMAP files no?
03:50
<chrisjrob>
there is no firewall between the client and the server, unless i'm much mistaken.
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<celui>
And PORTMAP file?
03:52
<chrisjrob>
i restarted portmap and nfs-kernel-server, but no joy - is there something else needed?
03:53
what's the portmap file? /etc/default/portmap is all commented out...
03:54
<celui>
bad.. But i had the same problem and the chnages on this file are worked...
03:55
sorry, i'm fench it's not easy to speak a good english ^^
03:56
<chrisjrob>
your english is better than my french!!
03:56
<celui>
HuHu !
03:57
Ihave looking a how to for Portmap and it's possible to make "dpkg-reconfigure portmap " and reply no to the questioon
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<celui>
Maybe..
03:58
<chrisjrob>
thanks celui - sounds plausible, i'll give that a go - merci bien!
03:59
<celui>
^^ avec plaisir ;)
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<chrisjrob>
dmesg is showing the following two lines:
04:04
NFSD: Using /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery as the NFSv4 state recovery directory
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NFSD: starting 90-second grace period
04:05
can anyone tell me if those messages are normal?
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<knipwim>
i can't figure out how ldm works exactly
05:56
i can boot in my thin client to cli
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<knipwim>
start ldm from startx
05:57
err, start ldm after startx
05:58
i get the greeter, i try to log in
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but the greeter says it can't connect with the server
05:58
is ldm in my client not connecting, or is something on the server not receiving?
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<ogra>
knipwim, ldm needs to start from the ltsp initscripts, else you miss the environment
06:10
you should rather try to find out whats wrong with the default, if it doesnt start as it should ...
06:15
<cyberorg>
ogra, http://www.osnews.com/story/21069/OpenSUSE_s_Kiwi-LTSP_Easy_Thin_Client_Server :)
06:15
there is nice complement to ubuntu's documentation too ;)
06:17
<ogra>
will make Lns happy
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<chrisjrob>
on a fresh lenny install i'm having client boot issues. they get passed pxelinux boot process, but nfs mount fails with rpc failed: 2, leaving busybox initramfs prompt with error /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. client and server are on same subnet and switch. anyone else experienced this?
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<rjune>
!o
06:30
<ltspbot>
rjune: Error: "o" is not a valid command.
06:30
<rjune>
wtf? I thought it was.
06:30
ogra!
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<knipwim>
ogra: executing the ltsp initscript is the problem
07:45
<ogra>
right, find out why
07:45
thats what i was saying
07:45
<knipwim>
nothing happens on tty7
07:45
<ogra>
what distro ?
07:45
<knipwim>
gentoo
07:45
<ogra>
oh
07:45
then you need to wait for johnny
07:45
<knipwim>
could it be a problem in the gentoo ltsp init script?
07:46
<ogra>
it should use the upstream initscript ...
07:46
afaik all distros use it now
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<ogra>
Ryan52, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ldm-2.1.tgz
07:56
Ryan52, but beware far from being anything near usable
07:57
Ryan52, as i said, more a proof of concept for new themeing etc
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<johnny>
hi
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<knipwim>
hey johnny
08:36
does the /etc/init.d/ltsp-client start work on your gentoo install?
08:36
<johnny>
been awhile since i tested it
08:36
a recent bug report says ldm needs iso-codes now
08:36
<knipwim>
that was mine :)
08:36
<johnny>
after that, it should work from my understanding
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<johnny>
hmm.. did you say the thing about ltsp-client depending on ldm?
08:37
i'm going to relook at my deps shortly
08:37
<knipwim>
yes
08:37
<johnny>
there was a recent i decided against it
08:37
<knipwim>
ldm should be installed on the client right?
08:37
<johnny>
reason*
08:37
yes
08:37
atm it's depped in the profile
08:38
profile file that is
08:38
i kidna wonder about actually making ltsp a real profile in gentoo terms
08:40
<knipwim>
hmm, i don't know a lot about them
08:40
<johnny>
or even just a set..
08:40
are you familiar with the new sets ..?
08:40
i could make emerge @ltsp-client potentially
08:41
<knipwim>
profiles are responsible for teh default use flags, among other things right?
08:44
<johnny>
yes
08:44
like the default packages for system targets
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<ninou>
hi
09:00
i need ldm to set an xsetroot command after starting X, how can i do that ?
09:03
<mushroomblue>
so, turns out, all of the latest HP thin clents are based on the VX800 chipset
09:04
which has issues in intrepid.
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<Ryan52>
ogra: thanks
09:17
<ogra>
i'm up to my ears in ARM work until next thu. so dont expect quick answers if you have questions :)
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<xorITor>
is there a way to make the ldm greeter for ltsp 5 on fedora 10 display a message box BEFORE the login information is asked for?
09:35
ie... "Restricted system.......... by clicking ok you understand and agree to...... "
09:35
blah blah blah
09:35
<Ryan52>
xorITor: potentially. look at the rc.d scripts.
09:36
might be in /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/
09:36
add something that starts with an I
09:36
<xorITor>
Ryan52, yea I am looking into those, but I am not sure about how to make it a "click ok to accept" type of box
09:36
s/box/message box/
09:38
<Ryan52>
xorITor: ldm-dialog --message "blah blah blah."
09:38
if that's not what you wanted, please elaborate.
09:38
<xorITor>
Thank you soooooooooo much... let me try that and get back to you
09:39
<rjune_>
ogra, hope it goes well for you
09:41
<xorITor>
is there a way to put a cancel button on that?
09:42
other than that... it is perfect
09:43
<Ryan52>
while ! ldm-dialog --yesno "blah blah blah. would you like to continue?"; do :; done
09:43
might work.
09:43
tho I don't see why you would want a cancel button.
09:43
doens't really make sense to me, at leas.t
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<xorITor>
depends on if the cancel button kicks them back to the banner or lets them through to the login part
09:45
if it does let them through then there is no point
09:45
Ryan52, you freakin rock! thanks
09:46
where are the docs for this?
09:47
<Ryan52>
looks like it's not. :)
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<xorITor>
:-D
09:48
hehehe
09:48
Ryan52, in that case you rock even harder!
09:48
<Ryan52>
:)
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<chrisjrob>
on a new lenny install, our clients are failing with "rpc failed: 2"
10:18
leaving busybox initramfs prompt with error /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
10:19
after three days of fighting this problem, i'm getting nowhere.
10:19
<johnny>
nfs problem i bet
10:19
<chrisjrob>
indeed.
10:19
but what? it's running, the exports are there.
10:19
<johnny>
try mounting them elsewhere
10:19
on some other pc
10:19
<chrisjrob>
i can connect to it from my laptop fine
10:20
<johnny>
yell at the debian maintainer :)
10:20
hehe
10:20
<chrisjrob>
thanks!
10:21* johnny only knows how to use nfs.. not fix it if it breaks
10:22
<johnny>
my used ltsp install is on ubuntu
10:22
<chrisjrob>
same as me!
10:22
<johnny>
which doesn't use nfs at all
10:22
<chrisjrob>
(same as me re. not being able to fix nfs, not being on ubuntu)
10:23
<johnny>
you could always just use ubuntu if you don't get anywhere :)
10:24
i like debian and all... but it gets out of date too quickly.. and i don't feel like pinning everything under the sun to get what i want :)
10:24
<chrisjrob>
in busybox, i notice that /etc/hosts does not exist, is that normal?
10:24
<johnny>
probably
10:25
<Ryan52>
use sid! :P
10:25
<johnny>
lol.. use sid
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<johnny>
when are they gonna run out of toy story character names..
10:25
well.. at this rate.. it'll take awhile
10:25
<Ryan52>
haha
10:27
<chrisjrob>
i wonder about the final error "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
10:27
<johnny>
that's a normal thing
10:27
if everything else is broken
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<chrisjrob>
blast - hoped it was a clue.
10:27
<johnny>
why not try to mount nfs directly from there?
10:27
<chrisjrob>
same error
10:27
<johnny>
see if that works
10:28
oh
10:28
<chrisjrob>
rpc failed: 2
10:28
<johnny>
well.. look in server logs then i guess
10:28
<chrisjrob>
yup - nothing.
10:28
<johnny>
switch to ubuntu?
10:28
hehe
10:28* chrisjrob scratches head
10:28
<Ryan52>
bad johnny! :P
10:28
<johnny>
Ryan52, well you fix his problem then
10:28* Ryan52 hides
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<johnny>
ah.. see..
10:28
you slacker
10:28* Ryan52 closes bug with status worksforme :P
10:29
<johnny>
that's mean
10:29
<Gadi1>
chrisjrob: have you rebooted the server?
10:29
<johnny>
oh no.. gadi is here
10:29
<chrisjrob>
sadly more times than is healthy!
10:29
<Gadi1>
:D
10:29
and you cannot mount the nfs mount even locally?
10:29
you always get an rpc error?
10:29
<johnny>
from other machines. yes..
10:29
<Ryan52>
it might mean no such file or directory.
10:30
so check that you have your path set right.
10:30
in the dhcp configs.
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<Gadi1>
pastebot your dhcpd.conf
10:30
<johnny>
ah.. now i'll learn how to fix it.. :)
10:30
!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
johnny: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
10:30
<Ryan52>
when did Gadi become Gadi1 ... I'm seeing double! :P
10:30* Ryan52 leaves for school
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<chrisjrob>
Correct, I cannot mount locally
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<chrisjrob>
Correct, I always get rpc error
10:31
Correct, I can mount from other machines.
10:31
I will post dhcpd.conf...
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<ltsppbot>
"chrisjrob" pasted "dhcpd.conf" (56 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/271
10:35
<chrisjrob>
it is slightly more complex, as I am trying to maintain the existing infrastructure.
10:35
but I have also tried cutting back to a basic one from /etc/ltsp and it still failed
10:37
<Gadi1>
did you change the pxelinux.cfg/default at all?
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<chrisjrob>
probably in trying to resolve this issue, but i think it's back to the default now...
10:38
<Gadi1>
can you paste that and your exports file?
10:38
<chrisjrob>
DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp boot=nfs
10:39
exports: /opt/ltsp/ *(ro,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check)
10:39
<Gadi1>
and are you sure there are no other dhcp servers on that subnet?
10:40* chrisjrob is checking...
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<chrisjrob>
definitely not.
10:41
both client and server on the same switch and i have tried replacing switch
10:41
with only the server and client on the temporary switch
10:42
and it still failed
10:42
<Lumiere>
are all the nfs services running?
10:42
<Gadi1>
you have been editing /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, yes?
10:42
and restarting it between edits
10:42
<Lumiere>
or is there a firewall blocking those points?
10:42
<Gadi1>
not /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
10:42
<chrisjrob>
yes Gadi1
10:42
Sorry Gadi, i have been editing /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
10:43
<Gadi1>
ah, that may be the problem
10:43
<chrisjrob>
omg
10:43
<Lumiere>
uh... if you are getting RPC errors... that is not dhcp...
10:43
<Gadi1>
cp /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
10:43
and restart dhcp
10:43
Lumiere: it is if the dhcpd.conf file passes the wrong path
10:44
his error is no such file or directory error
10:44* chrisjrob is rebooting client
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<chrisjrob>
rpc failed: 2
10:45
<Gadi1>
swing and a miss
10:45
:)
10:45
<chrisjrob>
no problem - just so grateful for some help!
10:45
<Gadi1>
does it give you more info on the client before that?
10:45
or in the server logs?
10:45
that might indicate what it is attempting to do
10:45
<chrisjrob>
it gets passed the pxelinux bit and then confirms various
10:45
<Gadi1>
ie, mounting <path> from <ip>
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<chrisjrob>
information, including
10:46
ip's and path, but they all look right afaik
10:46
<Gadi1>
are you booting on eof the reserved IPs in that conf file?
10:47
*one of
10:47
ie, one of the host decls
10:47
<rjune_>
!g
10:47
<chrisjrob>
yes, the .53
10:47
<ltspbot>
rjune_: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:47
<chrisjrob>
i can ping it from the server fine, with the ws053 or the ip#
10:48
<Gadi1>
and the server's eth0 is 0.17?
10:48
<chrisjrob>
yes
10:48
<Gadi1>
from busybox, try this:
10:49
mount -t nfs 192.168.0.17:/opt/ltsp/i386 /mnt
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<chrisjrob>
no such file or directory
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<chrisjrob>
ah, /mnt doesn't exist
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<Gadi1>
mkdir /mnt
10:51
<chrisjrob>
invalid argument
10:51
<Gadi1>
:)
10:51
<ogra>
use /root
10:51
<Gadi1>
or that
10:52
<chrisjrob>
still invalid arhument, should i be using nfsmount instead
10:52
that fails with rpc failed: 2 though :-(
10:53
<Gadi1>
anything in the logs on the server?
10:53
syslog
10:53* chrisjrob checking..
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<chrisjrob>
nothing in syslog, except for happy dhcp entries
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<Gadi1>
on server, do: showmount -e
10:55
<chrisjrob>
Returns export list: /opt/ltsp *
10:55
<Gadi1>
weird
10:55
<ogra>
ps ax|grep portmap
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<chrisjrob>
2448 ? Ss 0:01 /sbin/portmap
10:56
<Gadi1>
on client, in busybox, try to ping the server
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<ogra>
have a look at /etc/default/portmap as well
10:56
<chrisjrob>
pings the server fine
10:56
<Gadi1>
ok
10:56
do what ogra says
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<chrisjrob>
#OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1"
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<ogra>
looks ok
10:58
cat /proc/filesystems|grep nfs
10:58
on the client
10:58
<chrisjrob>
having to reboot the client, as i couldn't ctrl+c the pinging
10:58* chrisjrob waiting for the rpc failures to complete
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<chrisjrob>
Sorry, still waiting for the failures to give up - takes a while!
11:01
okay it returns
11:01
nodev nfs
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nodev nfs4
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<ogra>
looks fine as well
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<chrisjrob>
thought as much
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<knipwim>
is /var/run/ltsp-xorg.conf the default autoprobed xorg config file?
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<Gadi1>
ogra: got a sec?
11:40
<ogra>
not really, is it important ?
11:41
<Gadi1>
its a quick one
11:41
just need an opinion
11:41
I patched the compiz script to force fallback wm when display is remote
11:42
my thinking is that remote displays should force compiz with SKIP_CHECKS="yes"
11:42
<ogra>
doesnt that script have something like that already ?
11:42
<Gadi1>
how do you think that would go over with the ubuntu folks?
11:42
no, thats the problem
11:42
<ogra>
ask mvo
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<Gadi1>
it checks local xserver info for compiz-compat
11:42
<ogra>
he has to judge
11:42
<Gadi1>
ok
11:43
is he in ubuntu-devel?
11:43
<ogra>
imho it shouldnt skip, but dtrt
11:43
and that not based on a local logfile
11:43
<Gadi1>
there's no good way to ask a remote Xserver its driver
11:43
thats the problem
11:43
<ogra>
no, but its capabilities
11:43
it shouldnt rely on driver at all imho
11:44
i dont like the design of the whole thing as you might grok :)
11:44
it should chek for GLX and composite
11:44
and ignore the driver
11:45
<Gadi1>
right
11:45
it tries
11:45
but, I guess there are drivers that are broken
11:45
<ogra>
yeah
11:45
i heard something like that
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<Gadi1>
this would be a welcome intermediate step, tho
11:46
in other words: if you cant do a good check don't do a bad one
11:46
:)
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<mushroomblue>
so, Jaunty Alpha 5's alternate install ISO doesn't include ltsp
12:52* ogra is pretty sure it does
12:53
<ogra>
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/2317/230
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<mushroomblue>
yeah. that build no longer exists
12:58
should I just get a nightly or something?
12:58
cos alpha 5 definitely doesn't include it.
12:59
<ogra>
thats the alpha5 test
13:00
<mushroomblue>
unless it's just not in the F4 menu like it was before..
13:01
cos on initial boot, I had no "install LTSP server" option
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<ogra>
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-5/jaunty-alternate-i386.iso
13:01
built on 25th
13:01
<mushroomblue>
yup. that's the one I'm using.
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<ogra>
well, thats the one the test was for
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<mushroomblue>
I like that the additional instructions for the testcase no longer exist
13:02
<ogra>
should be in F4
13:02
i dont think we have ever put up any :P
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<mushroomblue>
yeah. just set up another virtual machine, and no F4 options.
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<ogra>
ask stgraber then, he reported it working fine
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<mushroomblue>
cool. :)
13:03
stgraber: alive? :)
13:08
apparently, someone spiked my coffee with drugs this morning.
13:08
"Install an LTSP server" is now showing up
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sorry for wasting time.
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<johnny>
that was me
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sorry
13:09* ogra wants some !
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<ogra>
johnny, can you attach some to a mail ? :)
13:09
<johnny>
i think that's illegal :)
13:11
<mushroomblue>
ogra: www.budmail.biz :)
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<etyack>
is there a way to limit a user to a single session/login with ldm?
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<vagrantc>
etyack: with recent versions ...
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LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION=true/false
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<etyack>
vagrantc: intrepid?
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<vagrantc>
no idea ... was first introduced upstream 2008-07-27
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<ogra>
could be that it made it in
13:29
<rjune_>
What's new ogra
13:29
besides arm
13:29
<ogra>
lots of work :)
13:29
but thats not new i guess :)
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<rjune_>
heh
13:30
You going to pycon in chicago?
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<ogra>
i dont think so
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<etyack>
found it, the option is included in intrepid
13:31
<Gadi1>
vagrantc: I don't see how your cdpinger code works
13:31
got a sec?
13:31
<ogra>
Gadi1, you are always so pessimistic ... tsk
13:31
<Gadi1>
the udev script passes off to cdpinger, but cdpinger calls the udev script
13:31
:)
13:31
<vagrantc>
Gadi1: it's been working for quite some time :)
13:31
<Gadi1>
I know
13:32
I am trying to understand how
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:D
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<vagrantc>
Gadi1: i think the udev rule doesn't call cdpinger if a cdpinger is already running with the appropriate arguments
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<Gadi1>
right, but it exits
13:32
thats what I dont get
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<vagrantc>
because cdpinger will call the script when it actually needs to run
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<vagrantc>
it's been a while since i've really looked at it ... but it seemed to handle all the possible cases ...
13:33
<jammcq>
hello friends
13:33
<Gadi1>
but cdpinger calls ltspfs_entry on a CD
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which should cause ltspfs_entry to exit
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<etyack>
jammcq: hey hey
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<vagrantc>
Gadi1: it only exits when it starts a new cdpinger
13:37
Gadi1: if cdpinger is already running, it continues on
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<Gadi1>
ah, i see
13:38
<vagrantc>
Gadi1: all those 0's and 1's are hard to keep track of :)
13:43
<Gadi1>
vagrantc: I keep wondering if the problems you experienced with cdroms and local ltspfs were on that same bad tarball image you used
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<vagrantc>
Gadi1: bad tarball was ldm
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<Gadi1>
were you not testing with ldm?
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<vagrantc>
i also had those cdpinger problems with my own tarballs
13:44
Gadi1: i've tried with many tarballs of ldm and ltspfs in conjunction, and they all had the cdpinger problems with local stuffs
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<Gadi1>
ok
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<stgraber>
mushroomblue: what's the problem with LTSP in alpha-5 ? it's there and works fine after install
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<ogra>
stgraber, he had to many blue mushrooms and discovered teh F4 option in the end :)
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<stgraber>
ok :)
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<Guaraldo>
Hi, all...
14:18
I'm looking for a way to have telnet or ssh connection to an LTSP diskless client
14:18
Does anyone know how to do it???
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<rjune_>
used to be able to do it
14:18
probably still can by editing inetd config
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<Guaraldo>
rjune: I'm using LTSP4.2
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<rjune_>
look in ltsp_root for inetd.conf or xinetd.conf
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<Guaraldo>
rjune: but there is no telnetd on the chroot... sshd exists, but how can I autenticate?
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<rjune_>
it auths out of etc/passwd
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you can do ldap have have local users
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<Guaraldo>
rjune LTSP 4.2???
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<rjune_>
yup
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<Guaraldo>
rjune: There is no pam_ldap.so
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on the chroot
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<rjune_>
I may be misremembering that then
14:35
still, You can add users to the passwd and shadow file
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<Gadi1>
Guaraldo: you can copy root's shadow line to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/shadow
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then login to the client as root
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(presuming root on the server has a passwd)
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or do key exchange
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and make you public key an authorized key in /opt/ltsp/i386/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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<nicros>
does anyone here know how to create openSUSE 11.1 'fat clients' using ltsp and aoe on SLES 10?
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<nicros>
i found a good document but the fat client plugin is for ubuntu
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<mushroomblue>
stgraber: yeah, it was PEBKAC. next time, I'll make sure I have a problem before getting your attention.
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<Gadi1>
lol - nicros - that's a bit of a do-it-yourself job
14:49
afaik
14:50
with many obstacles along the way
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<nicros>
do you think it would be too difficult
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<Gadi1>
depends how much you know about how suse works
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or, in this case, kiwi
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<nicros>
right now i'm using pxelinux and nfsroot to remote boot 1000 diskless clients
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but nfsroot is not really supported in 11.1
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i know suse but not kiwi
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<Gadi1>
are you using ltsp?
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<nicros>
not right now
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<etyack>
is there a way to limit the password attempts to 1 when using ldm?
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<Gadi1>
etyack: should be default these days
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etyack: if not, then: echo "NumberOfPasswordPrompts 1" >>/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_config
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<etyack>
Gadi1: did that
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<nicros>
i was reading about 'Local Apps', can that be used to run everything on the clients?
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<etyack>
Gadi1: could be related to likewise-open/ad auth on server
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<Gadi1>
etyack: ah, yes you dont have pam configured for one password
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nicros: a few problems that you may have is that kiwi-ltsp is not 100% upstream
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<Gadi1>
and does not use upstream's plugin system for ltsp-build-client
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otherwise, you could work from ubuntu's fat client plugin
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<Gadi1>
and make changes suitable to suse
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<Gadi1>
another issue is nobody's bothered with aoe
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in ltsp
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as of yet
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<nicros>
o.k. maybe i'll just try replacing nfsroot with aoe
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<Gadi1>
so, if that's a hard requirement, you need to make sure suse's initramfs can mount a rootfs that way
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<nicros>
or iSCSI
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<FuriousGeorge>
hey all\
14:59
what kind of VLC type program do we use with ltsp (I'm using the kubuntu version, if it matters).
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**VNC, I meant. and would that be a "new session" type of VNC or would it be to use an existing session
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<Gadi1>
FuriousGeorge: many people use italc
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<FuriousGeorge>
Gadi1: thanks... would that be to run an existing session, or would it start a new one?
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<Gadi1>
to control existing ones - though, I think there is a capability to start a new one and have everybody tune into it
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its made with classrooms in mind
15:02* Gadi1 has never set it up
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<Gadi1>
but, other have
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*others
15:02
do a search on "italc ltsp"
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<FuriousGeorge>
Gadi1: thanks, i just found some good docs
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<nicros>
so with kiwi/ltsp and using 'Local Apps' could i run our application and have it use the clients cpu/memory?
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and have everything else running on the server
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<etyack>
nicros: yes.
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<Gadi1>
nicros: just install the application in the client image /opt/ltsp/i386/.... and then you can make a launcher: ltsp-localapps myProgram
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<nicros>
what kind of specs would i need on my server if i have 10 clients running opensuse 11.1 with a light weight desktop like ION or IceWM, just a ballpark figure.
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<Gadi1>
and it will run locally
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<nicros>
server OS will be SLES 10
15:10* Gadi1 would guess 1.5-2G RAM
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<mushroomblue>
is it possible to get a full XFCE desktop with terminal services/rdesktop support in under 128MB?
15:10
like, a bootable image.
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perhaps I should say "has anyone done it before?"
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<vagrantc>
hrm. trying to add users to fuse with pam_group on a lenny server, and the configuration looks identical to the etch server ... but not working ...
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<nicros>
Thanks for the help, i've got some work ahead of me :)
15:20
mushroomblue : i was able to get opensuse 10.3 with ION-3 under 200 megs or ram.
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<mushroomblue>
hrm. I hadn't thought of Ion.
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<nicros>
it has a smaller footprint than IceWM or XFCE
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it's keyboard based which works really well in our application.
15:21
<johnny>
well.. most people don't really use ltsp thatway..
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in fact.. it's hard to even call it ltsp anymore..
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that's just standard netboot that people do all the time
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<vagrantc>
nicros: ION-3 was my favorite window manager until upstream made it non-free software.
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<Psifidotos>
hello everybody....
16:07
can I make a question?
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<vagrantc>
!question
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "question" is if you have a question about ltsp, please go ahead and ask it, and people will respond if they can. please also mention the linux distro and release you're using. :)
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<nicros>
vagrantc : ION-3 isn't free anymore?
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<Psifidotos>
question , I use opensuse 11.1 with kiwi-ltsp, the use case is that when i insert a usb stick in a client machine, the usb stick is found and mounted but no greek characters are recognized for file names and directories...
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<vagrantc>
nicros: upstream put restrictions on the license requiring updating to the current version
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<nicros>
o.k.
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<vagrantc>
Psifidotos: should be fixed with ltspfs 0.5.9 ... not sure what version ships with opensuse
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<Psifidotos>
ok, thank u very much vagrantic
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<nicros>
anyone here familiar with AoE?
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crap, sorry, missed a step, i need to use mke2fs to create my file system.
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<Psifidotos>
question , any idea how I can check my ltspfs version?
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<johnny>
Psifidotos, whatever they do on suse? yast?
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zypper? not sure these days
16:21
zypper or rpm..
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<vagrantc>
also be sure to check the version of ltspfsd in the chroot
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<Psifidotos>
oh, ok it's an individual package... I'll find it...
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thank u johnny...
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20:50* stgraber plays with heavy localapps on an Intel classmate
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<stgraber>
that beast is not bad at all as a thin client
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<stgraber>
http://www.stgraber.org/download/ldm_16-9.jpg <-- That'll probably be ldm's look in Ubuntu Jaunty
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<stgraber>
Gadi2: ping
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root@ltsp1192:/lib/udev/rules.d# /lib/udev/ltspfs_entry add /dev/sdc
22:45
export: 259: /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic_USB_SD_Reader_058F312D81B-0:0: bad variable name
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<cyberorg>
johnny, these days we do all of yast, zypper, rpm :)
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<cyberorg>
and even web ;) http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=openSUSE%3A11.1&p=1&q=ltspfs
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<cyberorg>
stgraber, looks great :)
22:58* cyberorg thinks of using the green version of it for suse
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<stgraber>
Gadi2: pushed my hack to ltspfs-trunk but we really should implement that in a safer way
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<stgraber>
ogra: when you have a minute, can you look at that ltspfs bug ? Looks like something changed in gnome's detection of mountpoint in /media and broke ltspfs
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