IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 12 February 2014   (all times are UTC)

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04:27
<Ark74>
hi guys, i'm trying to boot a thin client form a Virtual Server on LTSP 5.3.7 using a bridged adapter, it finds the source ip address but i got stuck at a tftp time out
04:28
i've searched but no idea why
04:28
there's no much info around
04:29
have you tried something like this before?
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05:45
<joe_sizlack>
evenin' folks
05:45
anyone know of a way to interact with epoptes from a shell?
05:45
<Ark74>
o btw, im using virtual box
05:46
nop, but good question :)
05:46
<joe_sizlack>
darn
05:46
<Ark74>
(not me)
05:48
<joe_sizlack>
you have some question about using ltsp with virtual box?
05:49
<Ark74>
yep
05:50
i'm trying to boot a thin client from a virtual server
05:50
so far i can boot a virtual thin client
05:51
from a real ltsp server
05:51
<joe_sizlack>
oh
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06:31
<work_alkisg>
joe_sizlack: it's not implemented yet, there's a bug report filed about that
06:31
Ark74: can a virtual client get booted from your virtual server?
06:31work_alkisg is now known as alkisg
06:32
<Ark74>
alkisg, yep
06:32
using virtual box
06:33
<alkisg>
OK then try `tftp get` from another client to verify that your tftp is indeed reachable from outside
06:33
<Ark74>
using the same internal network for both, server and client (both virtual)
06:33
<alkisg>
!tftp
06:33
<ltsp>
tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
06:34
<Ark74>
i mean, is it possible? have someone done it before?
06:34
real client -> virtual server ltsp boot
06:34
<alkisg>
Sure, all the time
06:34
<Ark74>
O_o!
06:34
nice
06:35
<alkisg>
Many people use VMs for servers
06:35
It gives them flexibility, they say
06:35
<Ark74>
well, yeah using several nic for different networks with diferent distros ;)
06:36
my experiment includes old machines without cmov instruction ;)
06:37
<alkisg>
Just install a debian kernel there, it works fine
06:39
<Ark74>
on the main server?, what about the performance? will it drop? or the vm?
06:41
<alkisg>
It'll drop about 10%
06:43
<Ark74>
mmm, interesting. That will be easier than all this stuff :)
06:44
and a VM won't get the full potential of the server on the first place
07:05
<joe_sizlack>
ah, cool
07:06
I'd love to be able to execute a bunch of commands easily without having to forward X
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09:37
<prakash_>
Hi Folks. Got a question. Just say we have 20 terminal clients. The pc's are all at fixed location. How do we configure dhcp so that all 20 will have fix ip's. Tq
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09:45
<sysadmin>
hi there
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09:46
<work_alkisg>
prakash_: you're asking the syntax for /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf? It shouldn't be hard to find examples in google...
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09:47
<prakash_>
ok
09:47
<Guest76417>
hi there all i was hoping if anyone can help me with an LTSP related issue
09:47
<work_alkisg>
!ask
09:47
<ltsp>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
09:48
<Guest76417>
i did an ltsp installation long time ago, and the chroot image could be edited by hand and isntall packages inside for the clients to have the software. But now, unless i install directly de software to de server, the clients dont see it
09:48
and its kinda hot swap, cause without rebuilding the image, the clients see the new software
09:48
even if they are logued in
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09:49
<work_alkisg>
distro/version etc?
09:49
<Guest76417>
oh sorry, ubuntu 12.04,
09:50
ltspo-server 5.3.7
09:50
<work_alkisg>
On a client, run: ltsp-localapps xterm
09:50
Then on that xterm, run: cat /proc/cmdline
09:50
Paste the output here.
09:50
<Guest76417>
ok
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09:54
<Guest76417>
ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nbd0 init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7 nbdroot=:ltsp_i386 BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz
09:54
<work_alkisg>
Nothing special there
09:54
So you're probably using standard thin clients
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09:55
<work_alkisg>
I.e. you install stuff on the server for the clients to see it
09:55
You want to change that?
09:56
<Guest76417>
yes, i want diferent images
09:56
dont need the desktop on the server
09:56
<work_alkisg>
!fatclients
09:56
<ltsp>
fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
09:56
<Guest76417>
but i need it on the image
09:57
but fatclients the machines are old
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09:57
<work_alkisg>
Were you asking about that again a few days ago?
09:57
Where I suggested that you would use VMs?
09:57
<Guest76417>
oh, one of my colleagues maybe
09:57
he told me to come here
09:57
and ask for more help
09:57
<work_alkisg>
What more help?
09:58
<Guest76417>
we couldn't manage to do the VM's thing and fat clients are not an option cause old hardware :(
09:58
<work_alkisg>
So you have specific questions that you want to ask, or are you searching for someone to do it instead of you?
09:59
<Guest76417>
haha no sorry we want to doit ourselves its just that this has changed a lot with a few years
09:59
and it was easy to create and mantain chroot images for the clients with specdific software
10:00
<work_alkisg>
It's a lot easier nowadays than before
10:00
<Guest76417>
so the path would be creating fat client images
10:00
isn't it? for the software thing that i need to have
10:02
<work_alkisg>
After chatting with your colleague, we ended up with "install 1 ltsp server in a VM, and hide the software you don't need dynamically, don't use multiple chroots"
10:02
!ltsp-pnp
10:02
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
10:02
<work_alkisg>
This should make things easier ^
10:03
<Guest76417>
ok we will give it a try, he is sick and doen't come every day this last past weeks
10:03
thanks for you rhelp
10:03
<work_alkisg>
You're welcome
10:03
<Guest76417>
have a good one ;)
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16:13
<jmilot>
Hi
16:14
alkisg, i search a way to filter users who appears in Epoptes
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Maybe somebody else could help me ?
16:17
for example, i have a prof who use epoptes and he see students and himself
16:20
<alkisg>
jmilot: you can select not to launch epoptes-client in startup apps
16:20
But he's probably running it the wrong way, if he sees himself...
16:20
E.g. maybe he's using ssh -X ?
16:21
<jmilot>
yes he could use ltsp or NX ( ssh -X)
16:21
but it seems to appear in ltsp
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16:22
<jmilot>
and the prof doesn't use the same thin client
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<jmilot>
so i can change ltsp configuration to delete init epoptes-client file
16:22
<alkisg>
The startup apps are per-user, not per pc
16:23
It's not related to ltsp, it's a gnome (xdg) thing
16:23
<jmilot>
we don't use gnome but kde trinity
16:23
how i can delete the use of epoptes-client ?
16:24
only for prof group
16:24
<alkisg>
Google for "disable startup programs kde"
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<alkisg>
KDE should have a dialog for this
16:25
"Startup applications" or something
16:28
Gnome: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TydGLEX981g/UH_VKbzTRLI/AAAAAAAAAUM/sxMNqzpuIG4/s610/startup-applications.jpg
16:28
XFCE? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rKLsOwiFuCk/UJKGm_QIXBI/AAAAAAAALgg/leHrAs8RO8k/s1600/xubuntu-startup.png
16:28
Etc etc
16:35
<jmilot>
I have a strange behaviour
16:36
I have modified /etc/default/epoptes : SOCKET_GROUP
16:36
but i can't launch epoptes with a user from this group
16:37
<alkisg>
Did you restart the epoptes daemon? sudo service epoptes restart
16:37
<jmilot>
yes
16:38
<alkisg>
ls -lha /var/run/epoptes/epoptes.socket
16:38
Did the user logout/login after the group change?
16:39
<jmilot>
no
16:41
I logout , but the same thing ...
16:41
<alkisg>
(06:38:14 μμ) alkisg: ls -lha /var/run/epoptes/epoptes.socket
16:42
<jmilot>
srw-rw-rw- 1 root dotriver 0 févr. 12 17:37 /var/run/epoptes/epoptes.socket
16:42
it's the good group specify
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<alkisg>
ls -lhad /var/run/epoptes
16:43
The dir is ok too?
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<jmilot>
yes it is ok
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<alkisg>
Strange. /me needs to go, bbl
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