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Channel log from 10 November 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<lupine_85>
I'm having a problem on gnome + ltsp - if I use the locking application, then I can't unlock the thin client as it thinks the password is wrong (it's not :) )
04:24
could it be looking at the thin client's /etc/password somehow by mistake?
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<din_os>
Hello, quick question: do I get any performance benefits if the server is command line only? (i.e. X not loaded)
04:28
<ogra>
din_os, if nobody is logged in it will only cost you a tiny bit of ram
04:28
<Appiah>
not much
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<lupine_85>
a-ha. bad shadowfile permissions
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<Syntony>
hello
07:38
can someone help me?
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<Syntony>
i have a question about ltsp
07:39
:)
07:39
<alkisg>
!ask
07:39
<ltspbot`>
alkisg: "ask" is Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
07:39
<Syntony>
i have a linux debian stable...with four thin clients...
07:40
the server is running...but i have a problem with some applications for the clients
07:40
i want, that the thin client-users can only use a part of applications and not all...
07:40
can anybody tell me, what i could do?
07:42
<alkisg>
Syntony: I think your question is too vague
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<alkisg>
"only a part of applications" ==> what does this mean? Give a real example.
07:43
<Syntony>
it's a project,...so that terminalusers, only could use application like office, vlc, firefox and adobe
07:44
<alkisg>
You mean that you want the users to be able to only run specific applications?
07:44
<Syntony>
yes
07:44
<alkisg>
OK, first of all, this isn't LTSP specific
07:45
<Syntony>
hm?...okay...but why?
07:45
<alkisg>
It's a general debian question, you can ask it e.g. in #debian
07:45
Second, I don't think it's a good idea...
07:45
(I'm a teacher myself)
07:45
There's no proper way to restrict students to a specific set of apps, independed of the OS
07:46
You can't stop a user from downloading an app from the internet and running it
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(unless of course you cut all access to the internet, to floppies, cds etc)
07:47
<Syntony>
okay...that not my problem :)...they should use the internet, but they should habe only read and excute-rights
07:48
the project is just for an analysing
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through mrtg
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<alkisg>
I've seen many windows apps & frameworks that try to do that, but I've seen noone succeed so far. None.
07:48
<Syntony>
hmm.... :)
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<alkisg>
For Linux, I haven't even seen anyone try to do it... I haven't looked too well, though, as I don't need it.
07:49
<Syntony>
hmm...okay...could u say me, how can i modify the desktop of the terminal-clients
07:50
<alkisg>
What do you mean "the desktop" ? The wallpaper?
07:50
<Syntony>
no no not the wallpaper :)
07:51
the desktop...the GUI (like KDE,GNOME...) @ the beginning
07:52
i hope u know what i mean :)
07:52
my english is not the best :)
07:55
<Ahmuck_>
the gdm screen
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or the login screen
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<Syntony>
i'm using kde
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<Syntony>
can u tell, which path i must enter?
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<Gadi>
Syntony: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/kiosk/index.html
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<Syntony>
okay thx
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<squarepeg>
g'morning LTSP!!!
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<squarepeg>
Scottie!!!
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<Ahmuck-Sr>
to get a localapp, one needs to build in chroot?
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<johnny>
Ahmuck_, yes..
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<Gadi>
ogra: ping
11:15
<ogra>
pnog
11:16
<Gadi>
hey - I was poking around karmic's upstart dir in the chroot yesterday -> I think there's a bunch of stuff in there that is not needed or can cause problems -like mountall.conf
11:17
<johnny>
are the init scripts all native upstart in karmic?
11:17
<Gadi>
tho, Im not sure whether post-initramfs, there would be new events that would trigger things
11:17
johnny: seems most are
11:17
in the karmic chroot
11:17* Gadi wonders if some of the "mountall" issues people have reported are because of it
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<ogra>
mountall is essential
11:18
it cares for all the virtual filesystems
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<johnny>
Gadi, we should probably rewrite our init scripts
11:18
<Gadi>
I thought everything is mounted in initramfs already
11:18
<johnny>
fedora and ubuntu can probably share the same
11:18
<ogra>
no, the mountall issue is surely a race
11:18
<Gadi>
before init kicks in
11:18
<johnny>
oh.. it sucks .. cuz ubuntu doesn't use dracut yet..
11:18
uggh.. share share share
11:18
<ogra>
only a few things are mounted in initramfs
11:19
<Gadi>
ogra: race between what and what?
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<ogra>
ltsp_nbd and mountall i guess
11:19
i havent found the time to debug yet
11:19
<Gadi>
but, mountall isnt run until the rootfs, no?
11:19
is mountall run in the initramfs?
11:19
<ogra>
i dont think it is
11:20
<Gadi>
right - so, ltsp_nbd mounts everything and then the rootfs kicks in and upstart triggers mountall.conf
11:20
my question is - why have mountall.conf at all in a chroot?
11:20
<ogra>
ltsp_nbd doesnt mount *everything*
11:20
<Gadi>
everything is mounted
11:21
what else needs mounting?
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<ogra>
ltsp_nbd mounts the rootfs, nothing more
11:21
<Gadi>
udev will trigger ltspfs mounts
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<ogra>
severl things under /sys
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<Gadi>
and the sshfs mounts are handled by ldm
11:21
<ogra>
severl things under /var
11:21
what we need to do is port our stuff to upstart properly
11:21
not the other way round
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<johnny>
that's what i said :)
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<ogra>
yeah :)
11:22
<johnny>
now.. how much can we share with fedora..
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<Gadi>
it would help to know what needs porting
11:22
:)
11:22
<ogra>
ltsp-client and ltsp-client-setup for sure
11:22
<johnny>
yep
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<Gadi>
right - but, that doesnt fix the race condition
11:23
<johnny>
would be nice to find a way to do less overriding in ltsp-init-common
11:23
<ogra>
Gadi, they are different probs
11:23
<johnny>
sure it does..
11:23
magic i say!
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<ogra>
Gadi, the race needs more investigation and proper logs and debugging info first
11:24
someone needs to dive deep into initramfs and look whats actually happening and why
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<_UsUrPeR_>
hey guys. I am having a strange problem using an external dhcp server to pxeboot some clients. The DHCP server is an old one running 2.0pl5-11woody. I am getting errors on the new ltsp server (running Ubuntu 9.04) in /var/log/daemon.log stating "tftp: client does not accept options". Is this a discrepancy between the two versions? I am seeing that the client is pulling all the files in /var/log/daemon.log (tftpd was started with -vvv), and it hangs at RRQ
11:34
filename /ltsp/i386/initrd.img with a kernel panic "can't open /tab/net/eth0.conf"
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sorry, mis-typed. The last error is "can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf"
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<Gadi>
_UsUrPeR_: try adding: nbdroot=<ip_of_ltsp_server>:2000 to your pxelinux.cfg/default file
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(on the same line as "quiet splash"
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: thanks. I'll give that a shot
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: no dice. Added nbdroot=10.70.88.1:2000 after quiet splash. Still hangs with kernel panick
11:50
err panic
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<johnny>
alkisg, hey.. you ever have any problems with dnsmasq tftp server and clients not getting lts.conf ?
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<alkisg>
Hi johnny. Not exactly. I have this problem when I'm using IPAPPEND 3
12:00
Then ipconfig doesn't get a "filename" so it can't find lts.conf in the usual location,
12:00
and a symlink is needed from /var/lib/tftpboot/lts.conf to the actual location
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<johnny>
i never use IPAPPEND
12:01
just plain
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<alkisg>
Other than that, no, I didn't have any problems. Is that Ubuntu?
12:01
<johnny>
yes
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<alkisg>
Try break=mount (or premount? not sure...) and do cat /tmp/net-eth0.conf
12:01
<johnny>
i've had this problem since hardy
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<alkisg>
See the filename there...
12:02
Also post your dnsmasq.conf, maybe there's some setting wrong...
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<johnny>
ok..
12:02
will do
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<alkisg>
I'm using dnsmasq since hardy, no problems at all (but I do always have that symlink)
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<johnny>
i'll try the symlink
12:03
<alkisg>
Here's the .conf file I use: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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<alkisg>
johnny: the ipconfig client sends "Linux ipconfig" as the vendor identifier
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So you need to send a filename in that case
12:07
That's why it doesn't work for you...
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...if you put the symlink, it'll work though. So either fix dnsmasq.conf, or make the symlink
12:08
johnny: also, in Karmic udhcpc is used, and it sends another vendor id...
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<johnny>
do you have examples for those alkisg ?
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<alkisg>
No, I always send the same filename, so I don't prefix it with a vendor id
12:17
I guess something like this would work:
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<alkisg>
dhcp-boot=net:etherboot,/ltsp/i386/nbi.img,.......
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and (sorry, *before* that): dhcp-boot=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0,....
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I.e. ALWAYS send ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0, but override it with nbi.img for etherboot clients
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<coordinador>
hello
12:29
why sometimes the sound doesnt work in server
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and i have to reboot to it works again
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i go to sound preferences and i cannot test the sound, getting an error
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<Lns>
coordinador: might be better to ask that in a linux/sound specific channel
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<coordinador>
ok, thank you
13:25
<_UsUrPeR_>
Still having problems with using an external DHCP server for booting clients. It's dhcp version is 2.0pl5-11woody, and upon boot of a client, it's crashing to a kernel panic "can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf". I tried Gadi's suggestion, but the results are the same.
13:25
I also took a look in here, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/365380 , but nothing was helpful :(
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<ogra>
that looks more like an issue with your NIC driver than dhcp related at all
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: It's possible I suppose. These are older units being re-used.
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<johnny>
gonna have to rebuild your initramfs with the proper drivers i bet
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<ogra>
pci cards ?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: however, when booting off an internal DHCP server, instead of using the external dhcp server, everything works fine
13:27
ogra: I am not sure if they're PCI cards or not.
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<ogra>
are you sure you get the same kernel and initramfs from both ?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: I guess I'm not. Where would it pick up different kernel/initramfs files from? There's only one ltsp server on their network and it's the one I'm working on...
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<ogra>
no idea, but it sounds like you are getting a different kernel/initramfs from the woody server
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<johnny>
if it has next-server.. then that shouldn't happen
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<ogra>
does the next-server directive point to your ltsp server ?
13:29
right
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<johnny>
/me pokes ogra
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<_UsUrPeR_>
ogra: here's the dhcpd.conf addition I put in: http://pastebin.com/m66c0604c
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next-server points to eth0 of the ltsp server which is running ubuntu 9.04
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<ogra>
hmm, should work then
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<_UsUrPeR_>
I just tried to shut off eth1 on the ltsp server to make sure there was no issues with that
13:31
no changes
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ogra: notice I had to remove the if>then statement about nbi.img because it was not supported with the woody dhcp version
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<johnny>
is woody even supported anymore?
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_UsUrPeR_, i'm gonna hack your woody server..
13:33
i'm sure you're vulnerable to any number of hacks now
13:33
<_UsUrPeR_>
johnny: I'm pretty sure this is the oldest server I have worked on in a long time
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<johnny>
_UsUrPeR_, perhaps the problem is a bug in the code..
13:33
<_UsUrPeR_>
however, this is a simple internal DHCP server\
13:33
<johnny>
perhaps you should upgrade it
13:33
lol
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<_UsUrPeR_>
johnny: I agree. it needs to be upgraded.
13:35
that's not quite an option at the moment, but it needs to be done for sure
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<Gadi>
_UsUrPeR_: did you restart dhcp3-server?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Gadi: after removing eth1, i rebooted the server and re-built the image
13:42
so yeah :)
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also: external server has been restarted
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<Gadi>
no, I meant on the dhcp server
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<Gadi>
and, I assume you turned off the dhcp server on the ltsp server
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<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi: correct
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<jach>
hi some guide or howto for select other X enviroment apart of gnome some more ligth
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<alkisg>
_UsUrPeR_: do you see any error messages *before* the "cannot open /tmp/net-eth0.conf" line?
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ipconfig should complain if it cannot create the net-eth0 file e.g. due to not contacting a dhcp server...
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(btw, what distro/version is the LTSP server?)
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<ogra>
9.04
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<alkisg>
Do the clients have only 1 nic? Or they have 2?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
alkisg: the problem it has prior to that is the client cannot restart eth0 after it initially disconnects
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after the initial tftp transfer
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<alkisg>
Erm what? What's the actual error message there?
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Are you near the client? If so, you could put e.g. break=mount, and try some commands there...
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<_UsUrPeR_>
alkisg: I am not. This is at a remote site
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<alkisg>
ok
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<fasthans>
still have problem with my network printer and localapp. can somebody help?
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<Gadi>
Im gonna say.... maybe
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<Gadi>
wait, is the answer multiple choice?
14:30
can I phone a friend?
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<fasthans>
and another one: can I have one client boot from my ltsp/dhcp server and all others ignore the server?
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<johnny>
turn off network boot..
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<squarepeg>
cliebow slaps Gadi with a trout queen..98 pounds worth..while she holds the airplane door closed with her toes
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ohh..i forget Gadi wasnt there
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<fasthans>
johnny: I am not controlling that
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<johnny>
then tell your dns server to only offer it to those macs
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read the dhcp docs
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<fasthans>
johnny: yes I know and I have done that.
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<johnny>
well there ya go..
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<fasthans>
but I understand that this is a specific configuration for a certain client and not an exclusion for all others
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<johnny>
ok
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good
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that's how it should work
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<Gadi>
fasthans: you should deny unknown clients in your subnet declaration, and add a specific reservation for that host in the group section
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<alkisg>
fasthans: if the client has a boot medium (floppy, cd, hd) you can put gpxe and boot it without dhcp at all
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<fasthans>
alkisg: ok. that would be possible. would a usb stick work aswell?
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<alkisg>
Sure
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<fasthans>
alkisg: is gpxe the term I need to search for. or do you have a link for me?
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<alkisg>
Go to rom-o-matic, select the usb as an output medium, select "all drivers", and press "customize" to put the needed code for booting there
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!gpxe
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<ltspbot`>
alkisg: "gpxe" is the successor to etherboot. You can find it at: http://etherboot.org/wiki/index.php
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<alkisg>
!rom-o-matic
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<ltspbot`>
alkisg: Error: "rom-o-matic" is not a valid command.
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<fasthans>
alkisg: ltspbot: fasthans overflow...
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<alkisg>
You can download the needed software from there: http://rom-o-matic.net/gpxe/gpxe-0.9.9/contrib/rom-o-matic/
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<fasthans>
thanks. very much alkisg
14:45
and ltspbot also
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<alkisg>
fasthans: you'll need to put a small script with the ip address of your server
14:45
ltspbot is a bot, not a person
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<johnny>
alkisg, we need to get that menu thing in ubuntu by default..
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<fasthans>
well tks anyway
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;-)
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<alkisg>
johnny: menu thing?
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<johnny>
the pxe boot menu
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<alkisg>
Ah. Unfortunately it doesn't work with gpxe, so I don't care much about it...
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I'm waiting for grub to have full pxe support, so that we can use it to boot any local os / partition etc
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<johnny>
i thought you had done some boot menu with some pxe thing already
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<alkisg>
There's the pxe boot menu (the one dnsmasq sends), which can offer a simple "local boot", there's the pxelinux menu, which can boot any local partition with chain.c32, and there's grub2, which will be able to boot anything (e.g. a menu entry for "search and load windows vista" will be possible)
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I've done my menus with the first 2 ways, but they're not as powerful as grub2 will be, when it has pxe support
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<sbalneavbb>
guys
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<sbalneavbb>
don't know if ill be around much for next few days
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dad in hospital
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107 temp
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Wish luck
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Out
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<dtrask>
sbalneav: I need some help with sabayon on netbooks. I have used it to set up my profiles. It's difficult due to the screen size of the netbook...I have a hard time seeing everything in the sabayon instance of the screen. My issue is openoffice. I must have opened OO under sabayon at one point...now all my users in OO get a message about sabayon-admin using their settings...I can't seem to make it go away
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sbalneav: How can I get in on the CLI and delete .openoffice for the sabayon-admin? I've tried it in sabayon and when I save I get an error...hence it doesn't save
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<johnny>
dtrask, run the admin on a different computer...
19:50
thing is.. you sholdn't have that OOo issue .. it should be fine
19:50
must be a bug..
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<mr-dedup>
can I run a windows application in wine and deliver it to X# of end users
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to clarify can I deliver it to X# through LTSP sessions
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anyone feel free
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<johnny>
sure..
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the suck part is that you have to do it for each user
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<mr-dedup>
hi johnny have you had to do something like this
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<johnny>
no
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i just know you can
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<mr-dedup>
"do it" ?
19:53
<johnny>
install wine for each user
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or rather
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install the applications for each user
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<mr-dedup>
you mean run the installer under each user home
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<johnny>
wine doesn't let you install apps globally yet
19:53
<mr-dedup>
ahh
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<johnny>
it's a problem with wine
19:54
not ltsp
19:54
<mr-dedup>
you dont have to install "wine" but the app over and over... maybe a script!
19:54
cool, thanks
19:54
ill give it a go
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<dtrask>
johnny: How do i run the admin on another computer? It's a netbook...not a thin-client
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<dtrask>
johnny: the netbook has 3 users....student, teacher, and an admin user
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student and teacher are the affected accounts
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johnny: even deleting the .openoffice files for student and teacher doesn't work
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sbalneav: are you around?
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<johnny>
what i mean is create the the profile on another computer dtrask
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and then copy it over
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so you don't try to cram 3 levels of menus on such a small screen
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<dtrask>
ahh
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<johnny>
dtrask, start over with the profile if sbalneav isn't around..
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<dtrask>
it's UNR which is even worse
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<johnny>
but sabayon is supposed to help you with OOo :(
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<dtrask>
screen wise
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<johnny>
sounds like a bug
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<dtrask>
johnny: where does the profile live? I could edit it on the CLI perhaps
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<johnny>
/etc/desktop-profiles
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<dtrask>
johnny: thx for the location....I fixed the issue by unzipping both profiles and deleting the offending .openoffice.org directory and then zipping them back up.....worked like a charm
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johnny: so essentially the profiles are the zip files in /etc/desktop-profiles?
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<johnny>
dtrask, yes
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<rjune>
dtrask, !
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<jrdavid>
I had ltsp working fine on ubuntu jaunty. Now, after a power failure, my client loads the kernel but hangs after IP-Config: eth0 link up 100Mbps
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not sure where to look...
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<alkisg>
jrdavid: any messages other than that? Are you near the server?
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<jrdavid>
There were no other messages *after* that. Yeah, I'm near the server. But I got figured it out.
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I had another DHCP server on the network (my router).
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It turns out the power failure had nothing to do with it.
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It was just the first time my client booted since I had installed the router.
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Thanks anyway!
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<alkisg>
np
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<sbalneav>
Back
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<honey-badger>
hey there
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need help anybody there
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whenever i change the base dir of ltsp from /opt/ltsp to /opt/thinsys my users can not login. by the way m using Deb lenny
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don't know why is it so
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<sbalneav>
Lots of reasons
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First question is: why change it.
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?
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You'll need to look at your nfs exports
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<honey-badger>
yeah its fine
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<sbalneav>
For starters.
23:55
What's fine?
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<honey-badger>
i can paste it on pastebin if it is requrired
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/etc/exports
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<sbalneav>
Why do you need to change it?
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Does it boot when you change it? Just not log in?
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<honey-badger>
because i don't want it to be look like this
23:57
yeah
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<sbalneav>
Don't want it to look like WHAT?
23:58
What you don't like the name LTSP?
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<honey-badger>
sbalneav: actually i want to hide it from my fellow administrators
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http://pastebin.ciit.net.pk/1105