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vagrantc: can I bother you a minute with a packaging question, regarding the greek educational software?
I can't get the proper conflicts/replaces stanzas to upgrade two packages with one package...
usually you want breaks/replaces rather than conflicts
it's a bit more permissive
We copied that from the ubuntu language packs
Big package: https://termbin.com/ozdh
Small package: https://termbin.com/girk
Installing the small pulls the big one; the idea is that we would only send updates for the small one afterwards (e.g. this one is mathematics)
Now we want to provide a new "small" package that would replace both of them, but I can't find what to put in debian/control to do that
i think you don't want conflicts or breaks, just replaces
Schools already have those
And we want to provide them with an upgrade path
so the two you showed are how it currently is?
It's been working OK for 10 years now, but I think it would be better to avoid that split now, it doesn't help as much as I thought it would
(and schools have ADSL connections now, they're able to download e.g. 100 MB updates)
so you want to transform X-a-b-base + X-a-b with just X-a-b ?
It will contain the sum of both packages
did you try breaks + replaces?
e.g. X-a-b ... Breaks: X-a-b-base (<< sourceversion) ... Replaces: X-a-b-base
I think that one said "refusing ..." because it couldn't uninstall the X-base one while X- depended on it
Let me try it again
Replaces: dim-anglika-d-e (<< 10), dim-anglika-d-e-base
Breaks: dim-anglika-d-e (<< 10), dim-anglika-d-e-base
This is what I had tried
I'll leave the -base only now there, testing...
Ah, I also tried these; with these, apt-get dist-upgrade didn't want to upgrade:
But if I specify the package name: apt-get install dim-anglika-d-e ==> then it does work; it's just the normal "dist-upgrade" that doesn't work
Nah, update-manager also refuses to update that :(
hmmm... it should be possible with dist-upgrade
there's probably some complicated nuance here
I wonder if I need to provide transitional -base packages :(
yeah, that should work...
just a meta-package...
it's typical to provide such packages in Debian for at least one release to ensure upgrade paths...
maybe this is why :)
|15:12||* alkisg gives it a last try, to ask in debian #packaging, which is for packages outside of debian...|
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Hi there, have three pi's connected ok, but 2 not showing screenshots or allowing vnc
vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
paradoxewan: I think you're launching the session in a strange way so that epoptes can't find the display or something
It needs more debugging than I can offer for free, sorry :)
ok, just strange that one unit works and the others don't, should be same hardware and software, only difference is the screen resolution
The one that worked actually misbehaved
You had installed epoptes there, so it didn't run epoptes-client as root at all
When I uninstalled epoptes, it did the same as the other ones
so if I install epoptes on them all it will work? lol
its basically a signage system, all running a chromium instance
just for video / webpages, based on pisignage.com
Yeah it's doing something strange with the login procedure
Maybe it has 2 diplays runnings
ok, whats the costs involved in getting it fixed properly?
Let's go to PMs now. Channel = free, PMs = work :)
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