IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 28 October 2015   (all times are UTC)

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11:56
<larryni>
Hi again. I'm trying to get our RPi thin clients back on the network. Been following http://cascadia.debian.net/trenza/Documentation/raspberrypi-ltsp-howto/ - but when building the image I get the error "chroot: failed to run command locale-gen"
11:56
Do I need to install something else in chroot?
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12:27
<work_alkisg>
After if fails, can you run `ltsp-chroot -a armhf` and run that locale-gen command?
12:28
larryni: ^
12:28work_alkisg is now known as alkisg
12:29
<larryni>
alkisg: I'm rebuilding the client now and then try your suggestion. Will let you know shortly.
12:30
<alkisg>
larryni: btw, is that rpi or rpi2?
12:30
<larryni>
rpi2
12:30
<alkisg>
What is your server os?
12:30
<larryni>
Ubuntu 14.04
12:31
<alkisg>
You could also try with an ubuntu chroot instead of raspbian...
12:34
<larryni>
But it's the arm client image that fails building. Why would you use Ubuntu chroot?
12:35
<alkisg>
Why mix distributions when there's no reason to?
12:36
E.g. I would use lubuntu on the server, the i386 clients, and the armhf clients, all with the same interface
12:36
Or mate, or gnome-flashback
12:38
<larryni>
Yeah, using gnome-flashback now as well. I was talking to my boss earlier and we will start swapping old thin clients to RPis over time anyway. So it won't really matter.
12:39
<alkisg>
Won't you be using rpi2s as fat clients?
12:39
<larryni>
No, thin clients only.
12:40
<alkisg>
Yup then the interface will be the same, you'll only have different ltsp versions etc
12:40
Still no reason to mix distros, but whatever suits you
12:40
<larryni>
We have several already which were on our old LTSP install - all running Berryterminal. But they stopped working after I upgraded the server.
12:41
<alkisg>
That's probably due to incompatible ltsp versions
12:41
I.e. what you'll be doing now as well
12:41
Fortunately ltsp has been stable for a few years, so it should work for you...
12:42
(berryterminal had very old ltsp afaik)
12:42
<larryni>
yeah, saw mentioned on here - that's why I followed the previous link
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12:56
<alkisg>
andyc: I updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp#DNS_issues with a workaround for the ubuntu+dnsmasq bug that you experienced
12:56
I did that for you, no need to do anything....
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13:04
<alkisg>
fnurl: what did we use for the rpi2 server? lubuntu 14.04?
13:05* alkisg copies linux-image-raspi2 to the greek schools ppa, for 14.04...
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19:11
<alkisg>
vagrantc: thin and fat clients know the ltsp server as "server". It would be nice if user sessions running on the server could also use that name for consistency.
19:11
People using dnsmasq can do it with: interface-name=server,lo
19:12
I'm going to put that in the greek version of /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf, should I put it in the upstream version as well?
19:12
It doesn't hurt people that are not using dnsmasq...
19:18
<vagrantc>
alkisg: seems fine
19:18
<alkisg>
Cool, will do
19:19
<vagrantc>
it's easy enough to comment out if it causes problems for some users
19:21
<alkisg>
So far we've been instructing sysadmins here to use the hostname "server" for the ltsp server, to cover that ^ issue, and to cover the cups issue "servername doesn't match"
19:21
Now that we solved the cups issue in ltsp-client, we're finally free to name the ltsp servers however we want them :P)
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20:18
<workinonit>
anyone successfully got VMWare View Client 3.5 working using LTSP on Ubuntu 14.04?
20:18
I used the --kiosk and I have managed to have the client show up on screen but no keyboard and mouse work
20:19
I think I need to start a window manager before starting the view client but I am not sure how
20:20
Maybe my question should be: How do I start a window manager like openbox?
20:21
or even metacity?
20:21
<vagrantc>
kiosk should come with a window manager
20:21
<workinonit>
ok
20:22
so the vmware view client launches but it is in a small window and keyboard doesn't seem to work and mouse is slow to work
20:24
what is the window manager in kiosk?
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20:29
<vagrantc>
probably metacity if you went with the default
20:30
<workinonit>
I went with the default and I double checked that metacity is installed on my chroot
20:32
I noticed that the screen.d/kiosk script is tailored more for web browsers but I assume it works with just about any executable as long as you have all the dependencies for that executable met
20:32
<vagrantc>
yeah, should work with any application
20:32
<workinonit>
ok
20:32
<vagrantc>
workinonit: you've got this working on an Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop without using LTSP ?
20:33
<workinonit>
yes
20:33
<vagrantc>
workinonit: try running as a fatclient instead of using kiosk mode ...
20:33
<workinonit>
I even had VMWare View client working when I made a chroot with --fat-client
20:33
<vagrantc>
workinonit: comment out the SCREEN_XX=kiosk line, and set LTSP_FATCLIENT=true
20:33
hrm.
20:34
<workinonit>
ok I will give that a shot... hang tight
20:34* vagrantc shrugs
20:39
<workinonit>
ok it appears I can launch the client after adding LTSP_FATCLIENT=true to lts.conf
20:40
so then I just need to figure out how to launch the client fullscreen after login
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