IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 8 July 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<vagrantc>
LTSP saves the day.
01:23
somehow got a corrupted partition table, and could only network boot.
01:23
thank you LTSP.
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<cliebow_>
ITS RAGNAR!!!
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<laprag>
hey chuck
10:12
been waving to you now and then flying overhead :)
10:13
<cliebow_>
ive been watching!..you in the States now?
10:14
are you as totally behind as I am?
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<laprag>
I am currently on vacation, just returned from watching Americas Cup in Spain actually :)
10:17
coming across next Sunday
10:31
<cliebow_>
going for Mexican Foofd!
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<sbalneav>
Afternoon all
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<cliebow_>
Scott!!
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<sbalneav>
Hey cliebow_
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<cliebow_>
8~)..you takaing the day easy?
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<sbalneav>
working on Ldm2
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<cliebow_>
iwconfig
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i am so lost ill never cqtch up...
15:39
<Q-FUNK>
oh, will ldm2 be compatible with gdm themes?
15:39
it would be a nice trick
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<sbalneav>
Q-FUNK: I'd say no. At least, I have no plans for it myself.
15:41
<Q-FUNK>
ok
15:42
it would just simplify life a lot if the same themes can be shared.
15:42
<sbalneav>
Someone else can always hack it in, if they want.
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<cliebow_>
sbalneav:I be rooting for Canada when they play tonight!
15:51
<sbalneav>
What are we playing?
15:52* sbalneav doesn't follow sports at all.
15:52
<cliebow_>
Soccer that is
15:53
<Lumiere>
cliebow_: you should have been rooting for Toronto it sounds like
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: in ltspfs, is the static-device support strictly limited to floppies ?
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<PMantis>
Does anyone here know how to lookup the UUID of a partition?
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<jammcq>
tune2fs -l /dev/sda1
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<PMantis>
Ahhh, that'll do it, too...
19:51
I found the /dev/disks/by-uuid path
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Heh doesn't work for fat partitions.
19:52
<jammcq>
silly me, I assumed you were talking about Linux
19:53
<PMantis>
I am, just have a fat partition for music so the HP Quickplay can find it.
19:53
That's a mini OS for DVDs and music
19:54* PMantis wiped his laptop, did a fresh Edgy install.
19:54
<PMantis>
bigger HD
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<vagrantc>
PMantis: that's, like, so last year's release.
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<cliebow>
there is one theorettically long-term
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release..
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<vagrantc>
dapper
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<cliebow>
ant rememberwhich
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dapper is so err..last err
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<vagrantc>
edgy was the "let's release quick to catch up" release
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<cliebow>
they all rock inmy book 8~)
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<PMantis>
vagrantc: Errr, Feisty.. 7.04 either way. :)
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<FCM>
hey i'm setting up my office with an ltsp server and a couple of the agents want to have dual monitor support. I also had a request for compiz-fusion... Can someone point me in the right direction?
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anyone?
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<vagrantc>
FCM: you should be able to use a static configuration file for X if autodetection doesn't come up with two monitors ....
22:13
<FCM>
ok and where would i change it? if it doesn't?
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<vagrantc>
which distro?
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<FCM>
edubuntu
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<vagrantc>
in any case, setting XF86COFIG_FILE=/path/to/static/config/file relative to /opt/ltsp/i386
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(yes, XF86CONFIG_FILE ... we never updated the variable name for X.org)
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<sbalneav>
vagrantc: Well, I think the udev rules now just handle cdrom's and floppies.
22:17
But it could be for anything.
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<FCM>
ok thanks i'll give it a try. any idea on compiz-fusion?
22:17
<sbalneav>
Are you referring to the bug you mentioned the other day, about the hard drives?
22:18
Compiz you wouldn't really want to run over a thin client.
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: yeah, looking into making it configurable for the local hard drive access.
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<sbalneav>
That's going to be a tough one to do properly.
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<vagrantc>
wasn't compiz working great with the classmatepc running LTSP ?
22:20
<sbalneav>
it was running great ON the classmate
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<vagrantc>
much to everyone's surprise
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<sbalneav>
NOT as a terminal.
22:20
<vagrantc>
no, it was definitely running the classmate as a terminal.
22:20
<sbalneav>
Then I missed that part.
22:20
<vagrantc>
i remember that quite clearly.
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<sbalneav>
The problem with the hard drives is going to be: everything's going to look like an sd
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<vagrantc>
there is an ATTRS{removable} boolean available in udev
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can we export that to the *_fstab_entry scripts ?
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we have a patch that sort of works ... by basically breaking delayed mounter stuff
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<sbalneav>
How you gonna handle it when we get the inevitable "Well, I want the SECOND hard disk to be accessible, but not the FIRST one", etc? heh. Yeah, but twigging something off the "removable" attribute's probably a good stopgap.
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<FCM>
ok sbalneav so have any idea how to get it working? I can put hard drives in all the systems if need be.
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: that's when we say "sane patches gladly accepted"
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FCM: install compiz on the server and see what happens when you use it on a thin-client.
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<sbalneav>
My first gut reaction is: "disable drives in BIOS that you don't want visible". But I suspect I'd be judged as a cranky old fart for saying that :)
22:25
<FCM>
lol ok i'll play with it.
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<sbalneav>
FCM: Dunno. I have absolutely ZERO interest in compiz/beryl/other CPU wasting garbage, so I've never used it :)
22:26
<FCM>
lol ok. I have great use for it so i'll dink around with it. :) thanks for the help
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: the best argument i have for the behavior is that all users aren't given access to all the hard drives on a "normal" system, so it's kind of unexpected behavior.
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sbalneav: most automagic mounting stuff just handles hotpluggable devices
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<sbalneav>
A "normal" thin client doesn't have a hard drive in it :)
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<vagrantc>
well...
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<sbalneav>
I suppose we could handle it with passing the ATTRS{removable} as $2
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At that point, it's an all or nothing proposition.
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<vagrantc>
i don't know how common it really is, but i wouldn't be surprised if people do dual-boot setups with LTSP as one option
22:28
(or $3)
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<sbalneav>
Although, I'd suspect the BETTER way to handle it, would be to run ltspfsd as uid(nobody).
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<vagrantc>
then we'd have to configure all sorts of permissions for mounting devices
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<sbalneav>
Yep.
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But we're eventually going to have to head down that road for local apps anyway.
22:30
However, we'll deal with that one later.
22:30
I've got my hands full with ldm2, so the quick-n-dirty will be to twig off the removable attr.
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and have an "ONLY_REMOVABLE" or something var
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<vagrantc>
sounds good to me
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pwd
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ls
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gah.
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<sbalneav>
cat /etc/shadow
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dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 :)
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Who wants to tackle that one? You want to take a stab at it?
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The hard disk thing, not the dd command :)
22:33* vagrantc gets on a train tomorrow
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<sbalneav>
lol
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<vagrantc>
but maybe i'll whip something together in the next couple hours
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<sbalneav>
Man, you are one guy who LIVES UP to his name :)
22:33
<vagrantc>
i promised an upload
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<Lumiere>
touch 'upload'
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scp upload wherever:
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<thyaguvinny>
hi dudes
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:D
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<sbalneav>
Hello
22:52
<thyaguvinny>
is this a brazillian channel?
22:52
<sbalneav>
No, this is the english one.
22:52
<thyaguvinny>
oh...
22:52
<sbalneav>
Try #ltsp-br
22:53
<thyaguvinny>
thanks... but just one thing...
22:53
anyone has any kind of documentation of implementing ltsp over mandriva?
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<sbalneav>
Well, you can try installing one of the ltsp5 tarballs
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it should give you basic functionality.
22:55
<thyaguvinny>
mmm
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<vagrantc>
thyaguvinny: or do you mean actually doing the work of implementing ltsp on mandriva ?
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<thyaguvinny>
i'm still studying that software... like an overview... i think this week i'll go through the installation
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:D
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i'm colecting lots of guides, tutorials and the official documentation... i hope not to be so hard...
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[vagrantc]: yes... i mean implementing on mandriva...
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[vagrantc]: do u have something?
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<vagrantc>
!integration
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<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "integration" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp
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<thyaguvinny>
nops
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not an integration...
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<vagrantc>
!tarball
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<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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<thyaguvinny>
like an overview installation with particular folders and paths of this distribution... (and possible problems too)
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[vagrantc]: no a tarball dude
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:)
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i would love to find an rpm
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<sbalneav>
No one's done a port of LTSP5 to Mandriva yet.
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Night, all
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<thyaguvinny>
night
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see u later
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dudes
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:D
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