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Channel log from 1 January 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<daniQ>
cliebow?
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<laprag>
neuralis: ping
08:17
<neuralis>
hey there! long time no see, happy new year. what's up?
08:17
<laprag>
hey
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<laprag>
neuralis: i was wondering how far the OLPC project is from production
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<laprag>
i seem to remember that you were working for that project too
08:20
<neuralis>
yup. the first beta machines rolled off the production line already (http://dev.laptop.org/~krstic/xo) a bit back, second beta build will be at the end of january, two more beta builds over the next few months, production machine q3/q4 this year.
08:21
<laprag>
ok. one was reviewed here too, by Haakon Wium Lie in Opera, looked good
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<neuralis>
yeah, hakon was walter's student at the media lab.
08:34
<laprag>
ah
08:39
<cliebow>
daniQ:Heyu
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<laprag>
neuralis: thanks.
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<daniQ>
cliebow- happy new year!
08:51
cliebow- what should i do now? should i mark all upgrades on the synaptic manager and apply?
08:59
cliebow - do i need to be root to do this?
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<cliebow>
sure..cant hurt..you may find you cant login as root anymore..we can fix that..use sudo
09:41
<daniQ>
wow 999 things to download...
09:41
<jammcq>
laprag: howdie
09:42
happy new year !!!!!
09:42
to EVERYBODY
09:43
<daniQ>
happy new year!
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<daniQ>
cleibow - do i keep the old /etc/gdm/gdm.conf or replace it with a new version
09:56
if i replace it will i loose anything important?
10:01
does anyone have any advice?
10:01
<jammcq>
daniQ: make a copy of it
10:02
are you in the process of upgrading or something?
10:03
<daniQ>
yes
10:06
<cliebow>
daniQ:keep the old one..
10:06
<daniQ>
thank you
10:07
<cliebow>
or use the new one....as Martin Yan once said.."no one really cares" 8~)
10:07
it is all good
10:09
my wife thinks "feisty fawn" is a porn star
10:09
<daniQ>
ha!
10:10
tell her that we should take the dogs on a hike because it's so nice out....maybe Cadillac?
10:10
<cliebow>
ill tell her...but she has a wet noodle in hand..and knows how to use it
10:12
<daniQ>
i'm not scared....Turlough will protect me
10:15
i'm gonna reboot.....
10:15
thanks for all the help!!!
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<rjune>
jammcq: you there?
10:23
<jammcq>
yessir
10:23
what's going on?
10:23
<rjune>
Not too much
10:23
crying about the Elementary, but that's about it
10:24
<jammcq>
crying? how come?
10:24
<rjune>
They've had drunken monkeys doing a lot of work
10:24
<jammcq>
heh
10:24
<rjune>
both there and at the high school
10:24
600' ethernet runs
10:24
pigtails just sticking out of walls.
10:24
rather then a proper jack.
10:25
~20 computers tied to a single 30 amp breaker
10:25
four 110 hots tied to a single 110 neutral
10:25
over five machines that have NEVER had any windows updates applied
10:25
<jammcq>
sounds pretty typical of a school
10:27
<rjune>
the 600' ethernet run was the high school, everything else was the elementary
10:32
<laprag>
hey. the americans are alive :)
10:35
<rjune>
greetings and salutations
10:36
jammcq: enough grousing though, do you happen to have bill_c's cell phone #? I seem to not have it written down and I don't remember it.
10:36
<jammcq>
umm
10:36
lemme check
10:37
<laprag>
Happy new year all
10:37
<cliebow>
laprag:same to you!!!
10:37
<jammcq>
laprag: how you doing?
10:38
<cliebow>
jammcq..rjune too!!
10:38
<laprag>
i'm fine, how about yourself?
10:38
<jammcq>
doing great
10:38
<laprag>
s/f/ves"
10:38
<jammcq>
looking forward to a great 2007
10:38
cd
10:38
oops :)
10:42
rjune: I'm not finding a ph number. I'm grepping my home dir tho, might find something
10:42
<rjune>
howdy cliebow
10:43
jammcq: last I saw it you had it in some document for ltsp-bts back in 2005
10:43
or was it 2004
10:43
<jammcq>
I found the 2005-bts doc, and it doesn't have phone numbers
10:43
i'm looking for the 2004 now
10:44
05 was in montreal, you weren't there, so it must have been the 04 doc
10:44
<rjune>
and good news, for the first time in a long time, all the monthly bills got paid on time
10:44
<jammcq>
WooooHooooooo!
10:44
good feeling, eh?
10:44
<rjune>
oh yeah
10:44
it's nice to have more money coming in then going out
10:44
now if I could only get this back mortgage paid off. oy
10:45
double payment to catch up.
10:45
<jammcq>
keep it up, it's worth it
10:45
<rjune>
I know
10:45
March will be a very good month for me
10:46
three paychecks from two jobs, and 5 from the third
10:48
<jammcq>
as an employer, i'm glad i'm doing the 2 paychecks/month thing
10:49
<rjune>
1st and 15th ?
10:49
<jammcq>
1st and 16th
10:49
<rjune>
it has it's ups and downs
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<laprag>
Anyone have any experience with Promise straight IDE controllers (not RAID)?
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<W^^harddd>
hi 1
13:23
i have to discuss some issues regarding USB mounting
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<cliebow>
M:best wait til tomorrow when Scotto should be here
13:33
<jwalanta>
i got problem gettin ltsp up in suse..
13:34
<cliebow>
jwlanta:let's hear
13:36
<jwalanta>
cliebow: terminal stops at - 'loading pxelinux.cfg/default'
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<rjune>
jammcq: you never found it?
15:23
<cliebow>
rjune:you gonna be around?
15:23
<rjune>
yup
15:24
<cliebow>
apt-get install linux-image-2.6.17.10-386..pass that to DaniQ if you see her?
15:25
<rjune>
sure
15:26
<cliebow>
thank you sir!!!
15:27
<rjune>
no worries mate
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<wth_>
am getting "xserver failed" on my k12ltsp 6 install.
17:58
but it fails only on a thinclient with the 82915G/GV/910GL video.
17:58
but it works on a thinclient with an i810 video.
17:58
it says i should chk /tmp/mnt/xorg.log but somehow, i can't find this file.
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<vagrantc>
wth_: /tmp/mnt/xorg.log is on the thin-client ... you logged in there?
18:13
<wth_>
thanks vagrantc, found that.
18:14
it appears that the newer video 82915G/GV/910GL is also an i810.
18:14
so setting XSERVER=i810 should also work.
18:15
let me try that.
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<cliebow>
bill_c:rjune was tryting to catch you
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<rjune>
cliebow: no daniq
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<cliebow>
rjune:thanks..she got no x after update..and didnt know how
19:39
but yhnak a you just the same
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<rjune>
no problem
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<daniQ>
cliebow - it crashes on other sites not just msm.com
20:03
firefox is making me crazy with the edgy update going on.....
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<mistik1>
Seems like people are all recovering from last night ;)
22:52
<robbie>
heh
22:52
yesterday was nyd for me
22:56
<mistik1>
How goes it robbie
22:56
<robbie>
very good thanks
22:56
well, i never thought i'dd see a video of sadam getting hung
22:57
<mistik1>
yea, picture that
22:57
<robbie>
no pun intended
22:57
<mistik1>
heh
23:01
<PMantis>
Hey mistik1
23:02
<mistik1>
hey Steve
23:02
Happy new Year man
23:03
<PMantis>
HAPPY NUDE YEAR!!
23:03
Oh, err, NEW
23:03
:)
23:03
<mistik1>
haha
23:06
<PMantis>
mistik1, Dude, ya gotta move to Rochester - if I'm busy like this for much longer, I'll consider hiring.
23:06
<mistik1>
wow
23:07
<PMantis>
Dunno if I can expect it to continue, but I'd like to hope so.
23:07
Right near the end of installing an aserisk phone system for a call center. 30 seats.
23:07
<mistik1>
Its great to hear that you're keeping busy man
23:08
<PMantis>
Thanks... well, How about YOU?!
23:08
You busy?
23:08
<jammcq>
busy is good, but are you making any money ? That's the important thing
23:08
<mistik1>
Not as busy as i'd like but I have a lot of other things on my plate just now
23:08
<PMantis>
Heh, yeah, that's important.... it *IS* why we do thins, right?
23:09
The good part of this project is selling them 3 switches, 30 phones, cards, and my time.
23:10
<jammcq>
PMantis: do you ever run into issues with asterisk, when it comes to dialing conf-call access codes, or other dtmf things ?
23:11
<PMantis>
Yeah, dtmfmode is the option: rfc2083?, inband, info
23:11
<jammcq>
i've had a problem with things that start with '9'. For some reason, the phone thinks i'm trying to transfer the call
23:11
<PMantis>
You have to send DTMF in the same format that the other end is looking for it in.
23:11
<jammcq>
kinda makes it tough sometimes
23:12
<PMantis>
oh, what phone?
23:12
<jammcq>
Linksys 921
23:12
mfdutra says it's a problem in the phone, not in asterisk
23:12
<PMantis>
I have no experience with that. Perhaps the 9 is a hotkey for transfering...
23:12
<jammcq>
but I haven't found a work-around yet. although I haven't really looked much either
23:13
<PMantis>
Consider grabbing a Polycom (shameless plug-I sell them). :)
23:14
<jammcq>
i've got 3 of the linksys phones in my office. I'm not gonna throw them away
23:14
<PMantis>
I configured my customers' system so that any new phone on the network can autoconfigure itself, if you tell the server the mac address.
23:14
Ahh, true.
23:15
If I had one of the phones, it'd be easier to help. But given what I know so far, it's likely a phone config issue.
23:16
jammcq, have you registered your DIDs with e164.org ?
23:16
<jammcq>
huh ?
23:17
<mistik1>
lol
23:17
This is kinda funny seeing PMantis ramble along as the asterisk expert
23:17
I love it man
23:17
<PMantis>
e164.org is a domain for ENUM lookups.
23:17
heh
23:17
<jammcq>
what is DID ?
23:18* vagrantc thinks it's the past tense of "do"
23:18
<PMantis>
DID = Direct Inward Dialing...
23:18
<jammcq>
same as 'done'
23:18
PMantis: and that is..... ?
23:18
<PMantis>
today it refers to the actual phone number, with country code.
23:19
<jammcq>
separate phone numbers for each phone ?
23:19
<PMantis>
No, just a number that enters the * system
23:19
<jammcq>
I still don't understand
23:19
I have a phone number for my office
23:19
why would I need to register that anywhere, other than telling my customers about it
23:20
<PMantis>
Yes, that's considered to be a DID.
23:20
<robbie>
busy? when it stops being busy, that is good too. Thats when the cheques start coming in.
23:20
<jammcq>
PMantis: ok, why would I want to register that?
23:21
<PMantis>
Ok, that's the point. My system does an ENUM lookup on evern phone number that I dial...
23:21
For example... if you dial me.:
23:21
15852989420
23:21
Your system can do this: host -t any 0.2.4.9.8.9.2.5.8.5.1.e164.org
23:21
<jammcq>
and why would I want to do that?
23:21
<PMantis>
(My number, backwards, in domain format)
23:22
Type that in a shell, and look.. it gives you a direct IAX2 dialstring for toll-bypass.
23:22
<jammcq>
I still don't get the point. why would I want that?
23:22
<PMantis>
"toll bypass"
23:23
<jammcq>
try speaking in English, maybe I'll get it
23:23
<robbie>
i think he means cheap phone calls
23:23
<jammcq>
cheap for me?
23:23
<PMantis>
Bypassing the phone company, so not paying toll for long distance.
23:23
<mistik1>
would it be fair to say its just a fancy phone book?
23:23
<jammcq>
who's not paying toll ?
23:23
how does it make it so I don't have to pay long distance ?
23:24
<mistik1>
hmm
23:24
<PMantis>
Anyone who dials you with an ENUM-enabled PBX connects direct... and if your system does lookups, you can save tolls for those people you call that have their numbers gregistered.
23:24
<jammcq>
it sounds like something I could do so OTHER people don't have to pay toll to call me
23:25
<PMantis>
jammcq, True, and each person does their part of listing numbers.
23:25
<jammcq>
so what goes there, Phone number and IP address ?
23:26
<PMantis>
Basically, yes
23:26
<jammcq>
and then, do I open up a port on my system to allow IAX2 connections?
23:26
<PMantis>
Yes
23:26
<jammcq>
sounds like a vulnerability to me
23:27
letting unknown people make iax2 connections to my asterisk box. hmmm
23:27
<PMantis>
Only for the numbers you give public access to.
23:27
<mistik1>
how much more vulnerable would it be than a listed phone number?
23:27
<jammcq>
listed phone number goes through my voip provider
23:27
they don't connect directly to me
23:28
<PMantis>
Right now, if people dial your number, they get the asterisk box. Not much difference.
23:28
<mistik1>
yea but unless asterisk is inherently vulnerable I dont see a problem
23:28
<PMantis>
mistik1, You probably still have a route in your extensions.conf to call me. :)
23:29
<jammcq>
I'll talk to my buddy john about it. see what he says
23:29
<mistik1>
PMantis: had
23:29
<robbie>
http://rotapile.ods.org/gallery/0701/Adrian%20%26%20Belindas%20New%20House%20001.jpg
23:29
<mistik1>
PMantis: I have none of my old setup
23:29
<robbie>
junior is growing
23:30
<PMantis>
It's funny, I was looking up numbers last night... called a randon number in the directory (separte from the DNS lookup), and dialed it.
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<robbie>
hey Faithful
23:30
<PMantis>
Was talking voip to a guy in Australia by dialing his regular phone number.
23:30
<robbie>
merry everything
23:31
<Faithful>
Hey
23:31
<PMantis>
mistik1, Well, you have it now... just type that "host" command above, and it'll tell you how to connect.
23:31
heh, actually, you want a different number.
23:32
<mistik1>
well guys, I'm gonna cal it a night
23:32
<PMantis>
mistik1, Here it is: host -t any 3.5.8.3.2.7.6.5.8.5.1.e164.org
23:33
mistik1, oh, couldn't get that one registered yet... nevermind
23:33
good night.
23:33
<mistik1>
good night man
23:34
I'll link with you again soon
23:34
g`night all
23:34* PMantis thinks it's bed time for him too.
23:34
<PMantis>
Cya guys
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<Faithful>
I have input like "Cr Limit/Terms= 500/130" or "Cr Limit/Terms= 10000/130" etc and I want to turn them into |500|130 |10000|130 etc. I am turning them into a csv file with | as the delimiter So far I have sed -e '/Cr Limit\/Terms=/ { s/\([0-9]\)\/\([0-9]\)/\1|\2/g}' but it changes every occurrence of number/number in the input not just that following "Cr Limit/Terms="
23:57
<robbie>
echo "Cr Limit/Terms= 500/130" | cut -f2 -d =
23:57
gives
23:57
500/130
23:57
then sub the / for a |