IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 30 April 2014   (all times are UTC)

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08:43
<nitrosito>
Hi everibody
08:44
Anybody use XFCE on LTSP?
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09:07
<nitrosito>
Heeeey -.-
09:07
anybody?
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09:13
<Hyperbyte>
!ask
09:13
<ltsp>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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14:12
<dead_inside>
i do nitrosito
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14:54
<championofcyrodi>
I'm starting to think the issue is with the vmlinuz kernel with this Intel NUC. Especially since I'm seeing the non graphical splash screen. I'm going to disable the splash screen and see if that gives me more information.
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15:45
<gothaggis|work>
question, it used to be that the method for installing ubuntu LTSP was grabbing the alternate cd. I don't see an alternate cd for 14.04...is the alternate cd no longer a thing?
15:47
<ogra_>
dead since two years
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15:48
<gothaggis|work>
haha ok. so just use the desktop image i presume
15:48
<championofcyrodi>
Can someone tell me why this is happening? http://imgur.com/mDF2VSS
15:49
Booting from a livecd, lshw -C network tells me the driver is e1000e for the network interface. Already added that to the modules and rebuilt the kernel, still no luck
15:50
currently i'm looking into 'essential drivers' (ubuntu 12.04.4)
15:52
<ogra_>
well, thats the code that processes the modules file
15:53
which originates from either /usr/share/initramfs-tools/modules or /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
15:54
<championofcyrodi>
I figured. Perhaps since the USB Live uses UEFI boot, the e1000e works, however PXE is a legacy PC BIOS boot, which perhaps does not work the same.
15:54
<ogra_>
try /etc/initramfs-tools/modules if /usr/share/initramfs-tools/modules didnt work (and rebuild with update-initramfs ... ltsp-update-kernels etc etc)
15:54
<championofcyrodi>
okay, i'll give that a shot.
15:54
<ogra_>
theoretically they should be equivalent, but you never know :)
15:58
<championofcyrodi>
update-initramfs yields:
15:58
root@ltsp:/# update-initramfs -u
15:58
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-61-generic
15:58
df: Warning: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory
15:58
warning: failed to read mtab
15:58
cat: /proc/cmdline: No such file or directory
15:58
however the /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-61-generic file has a recent timestamp
15:58
so it was clearly modified.
16:00
<ogra_>
yeah its all fine
16:00
just warnings you can ignore
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<championofcyrodi>
okay, ltsp update kernels done, and did an image update as well... trying again.
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<ogra_>
no need for an image update, all that matters is that /opt/ltsp/$arch/boot/*-initrd ends up in your tftp dir
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16:24
<wouter>
this is interesting
16:24
LTSP boots on this TV screen, and shows output, but when X starts, output is all garbled :-(
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<championofcyrodi>
ogra_: I don't think any of the modules are being loaded, loading essential modules happens so quick. Looking into http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1533507 now, as it seems to be a similar situation.
16:48
essential drivers*
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<lromano>
hi guys
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<championofcyrodi>
added the i915 driver, looks like the modules file is being read, because i saw an error claiming the i915.ko file was not found...
17:08
<wouter>
ah
17:08
Option "VBEModes" "true" gets me at least *some* output
17:08
<championofcyrodi>
and since i don't get an exception for the e1000e line, i have to assume that perhaps the script that is attempting to find the network interface is failing
17:08
<wouter>
not the best one, though
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<championofcyrodi>
Looks like i should just send this NUC back and go with a different brand of diskless workstation. what a shame, raspberry pi worked, dell laptop worked, wyse thin client worked, disklessworkstation.com client worked... i really thought this would have been easier.
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17:20
<wouter>
um. My LTSP box just spontaneously rebooted
17:20
is this expected?
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('spontaneously', as in, it went through the reboot process, not that it lost power or some such)
17:21
<championofcyrodi>
hrmmm... this looks promising... looks like the udev upgrade and predictable network interface names is using something like eth0, while i need it to look for something like eno1
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17:37
<wouter>
I really don't want to be building modelines
17:37
really
17:37
why oh why do modern TVs suck so much?
17:37* wouter grumbles
17:40
<wouter>
okay, so if I set the video mode to 640x480 and use VBE video mode calls, I get output
17:40
not acceptable output, mind you, but output
17:46
ah, hang on
17:46
it was my '--window-size' option to chromium which made things appear smaller
17:46
nvm, then :)
17:54
so, can I tell LTSP to have a random Section "Device" in xorg.conf?
17:55
more to the point, can I tell LTSP to have a Section "Device" which has 'Option "VBEModes" "true"'?
17:56* wouter tries copying it into the LTSP image, which will probably fail...
17:57
<wouter>
no, actually, that seems to work
17:57
kewl
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22:04
<championofcyrodi>
orga_: Started from scratch with Ubuntu 14.04 and created a --fat-client-desktop ubuntu-desktop
22:04
working phenomenally.
22:06
http://imgur.com/IW0H9BG
22:06
thanks for all your help
22:07
<ogra_>
oh, congrats
22:07
(if you spell my name right i get actually a highlight and dont see your lines by accident )
22:08
<championofcyrodi>
heh, sorry
22:08
<ogra_>
np .... but it was sheer luck that i switched to this channel right now :)
22:09
<championofcyrodi>
I am so pleased with this thing right now, after 2-3 days of battle... victory beer is in order
22:09
<ogra_>
enjoy :)
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