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Channel log from 19 March 2014   (all times are UTC)

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06:40
<work_alkisg>
(11:30:26 μμ) unkmar: the local extra thing appears to share static files. Users can modify but it isn't reflected back to the system.
06:41
==> you did something wrong there then
06:41
Try again and post more info about what's going wrong
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06:50
<roces4>
hey
06:50
i've a question
06:51
I have a ltsp server ubuntu 10.04 lts. and 100 customers, unfortunately there is no sound on stations
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06:53
<work_alkisg>
There never was?
06:55
<roces4>
never
06:56
stations are redirected to windows 7 and are they logging into domain, I don't know whether it is necessary to place globally on the server?
06:56
i've to have sound on workstations
06:57
<work_alkisg>
If you're using xfreerdp, you should mention it :)
06:57
With xfreerdp, you might be missing some sound option
06:57
With pulseaudio, it's a different story
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06:58
<roces4>
that is I must install on the server pulseaudio?
06:58
<work_alkisg>
No
06:58
Paste your lts.conf to pastebin
07:00
<roces4>
in the lts.conf file I have poprostu addresses written down local_apps = true screen_ 01 = rdesktop - f tc-lic.omnis.org
07:00
ok moment
07:04
[default] LDM_AUTOLOGIN = true DNS_SERVE = 17.16.1.230 LDM_DEBUG_TERMINAL = false LOCAL_APPS = true LOCAL_APPS = rdesktop, xterm SCREEN_01 = " rdesktop -f tc-vlic.omnis.org" [00:19:db:2f:f3:b8] LDM_USERNAME = test LDM_PASSWORD = test1
07:05
<work_alkisg>
You need rdesktop *and* localapps? Are you sure?
07:06
<roces4>
He only needs rdesktop and sound on stations, so what I must mend
07:09
I mean only so that sound is moved through rdesktop
07:09
<work_alkisg>
You need something like "-r sound:local", check the rdesktop man page
07:11
<roces4>
please help me
07:11
:)
07:11
<work_alkisg>
No, read the manual
07:11
Or ask in the rdesktop mailing list :)
07:11
Or use google!
07:12
It's just 1 parameter, you don't need IRC for that...
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07:12
<roces4>
that is I understand around parameter to rdesktop must I add? and to remove localapps?
07:12
<work_alkisg>
You need to add a parameter to rdesktop, yes
07:13
You don't need LOCAL_APPS but it doesn't hurt either
07:13
<roces4>
ltsp-build-client after or no?
07:14
<work_alkisg>
No
07:14
<roces4>
only modify lts.conf and this all
07:14
to add only this 1 parameter this way?
07:14
<work_alkisg>
Yes
07:18
<roces4>
SCREEN_01 = "rdesktop -f -r sound:local tc-vlic.omnis.org" ?
07:18
?
07:18
<work_alkisg>
Don't use SCREEN_01 it's reserved for boot messages, use SCREEN_07= instead
07:20
<roces4>
but I have 2 servers with 2 addresses: in the lts.conf file SCREEN_ 02 = "rdesktop - f ts-vlib.omnis.org" SCREEN_ 01 = "rdesktop - f ts-cen.omnis.org"
07:21
<work_alkisg>
You didn't paste that, you only pasted SCREEN_01 when I asked your lts.conf
07:21
Use SCREEN_07 and SCREEN_08
07:21
<roces4>
ok
07:23
ok I will exchange on 07 but whether this parameter well napisalem? SCREEN_ 07 = "rdesktop - f - r sound: local ts-lib.omnis.org" SCREEN_ 08 = "rdesktop - f - r sound: local ts-cen.omnis.org" Is it this way correctly?
07:23
<work_alkisg>
Did you read the rdesktop man page?
07:23
<roces4>
tak
07:23
yes
07:23
<work_alkisg>
OK, whatever it writes there
07:24
It's not LTSP-specific
07:25
<roces4>
to put where I have this parameter?: (
07:27
[Default] SCREEN_07 = rdesktop RDP_SERVER = ts-lib.omnis.org RDP_OPTIONS = "-r sound:local"
07:27
?
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07:29
<roces4>
work_alkisg
07:29
it's good?
07:32
<work_alkisg>
Try the single line
07:32
SCREEN_ 07 = "rdesktop - f - r sound: local ts-lib.omnis.org" SCREEN_ 08 = "rdesktop - f - r sound: local ts-cen.omnis.org"
07:32
Without RDP_SERVER and RDP_OPTIONS
07:34
<roces4>
thanks
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07:47
<work_alkisg>
Note that you have spaces in the options above, "- r" is "minus" "space" "r", so it won't work if you don't remove the space
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07:57
<roces4>
work_alkisg no sound :(
07:57
tshis is conf lts.conf
07:58
SCREEN_07 = "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-lib.omnis.org" SCREEN_08 = "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-cen.omnis.org"
08:00
why it not-works
08:02
what is not this way?
08:06
work_alkisg
08:06
help me?
08:09
I did the way you wrote but is out of order, why?
08:15
who can help me?
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08:20
<roces4>
I have a server ubuntu to the terminal server's fault, unfortunately I don't have 10.04 and 100 stations which are logging on of sound on customers, whether somebody can help me?
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08:50
<Hyperbyte>
roces4, ehm... what?
08:50
<roces4>
hey heperbyte
08:51
<Hyperbyte>
I understand you might have some problems with English language, but I really can't understand what you just wrote. Can you explain better what your problem is?
08:51
<roces4>
I have a ltsp server and 100 customers, uniting to the Windows terminal server, how to do so that there is sound on customers
08:52
no sound on the clients
08:52
<Hyperbyte>
Since when does this problem occur?
08:53
<roces4>
Earlier I didn't need to have dźwieku, however now needs
08:53
Earlier I didn't need to have sound, however now needs
08:53
:)
08:54
it is an entry from lts.conf, SCREEN_07 = "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-lib.omnis.org" SCREEN_08 = "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-cen.omnis.org"
08:54
<Hyperbyte>
Okay, so you've never had sound working before, correct?
08:55
<roces4>
exacly
08:55
exactly sorry
08:55
:)
08:56
whether you need entire lts configurations?
08:58
and now unfortunately needs sound on stations
08:59
hyper are you?
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<roces4>
:(
09:13
CREEN_08 = "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-cen.omnis.org" what is wrong
09:13
?
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09:28
<roces4>
wo can help me
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09:30
<roces4>
elo
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09:38
<roces4>
?
09:42
sound in ltsp
09:42
who can help me
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09:53
<crack3r>
hi, my thin clients use the same user to login and share the same home directory, how can I prevent them from opening multiple sessions? Is there a setting based on the IP address?
10:07
<roces4>
who can help me
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10:14
<roces4>
alkisg, no sound :(
10:15
<alkisg_web>
roces4: did you ask in the rdesktop mailing list?
10:15
roces4: login to some linux pc. then run rdesktop from gnome-terminal
10:15
Once you've found the correct command, then put it to lts.conf
10:15
If you don't find the correct command, ask in the rdesktop mailing list, not here
10:16
<roces4>
ok
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10:21
<roces4>
rdesktop mailing list wgere?
10:21
where
10:21
<alkisg_web>
Google to find it
10:21
crack3r: check LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION in the lts.conf manpage
10:21
!lts.conf
10:21
<ltsp>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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10:32
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg_web, hi... any idea how Ubuntu 14.04 would work with LTSP thin clients? :)
10:33
Mainly curious about the desktop bits... newer version of Gnome, Unity, etc...
10:33
Would Gnome classic work as expected? :)
10:42
<ogra_>
14.04 only had polishing changes to Unity ... should work/not work the same as 13.10 did
10:43
(or 13.04 .... there were no bigger changes between 13.04 and 13.10 either)
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10:47
<seifdean>
Hi guys i've installed ltsp server with 60 linutop station , my problem when i restart the linutop the old sessions LTSP-CLIENT instances are not killed automatically
10:51
<Hyperbyte>
ogra_, I never tried anything past 12.04.
10:51
I'm mainly curious between differences between 12.04 and 14.04, but can't find much info on it
10:52
<ogra_>
well, i have no clue if unity works at all ... thats why i said "working/non working" :)
10:52
but i know there were no major code changes since 13.904
10:52
err
10:52
13.04
10:52
(and there wont be until it switches to unity8/Mir)
10:58
<Hyperbyte>
I actually don't like Unity, nor does it work with non compositing hardware or via remote X (or any combination of the two or whatever - not sure)
10:58
Point it doesn't work, which is fine because I couldn't care much less about Unity. I'm more curious if the Gnome Classic desktop in 14.04 still supports non compositing hardware.
11:04* ogra_ has no idea about Gnome .... havent used it since it got unusable UI changes :P
11:09
<Hyperbyte>
What are those?
11:13
<ogra_>
Gnome 3
11:13
i find it unusable
11:14
and completely unintuitive
11:16
(i must admit i havent tired any recent versions, might have gotten better .... but i doubt it will speed up my productivity like unity does)
11:24
<Hyperbyte>
No, I mean, why do you find that?
11:24
I find the difference between Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 fallback are quite minimal.
11:24
Well, dconf instead of gconf, but that I actually like, a lot.
11:25
<ogra_>
ah, yeah, not talking about fallback :)
11:25
<Hyperbyte>
I'm looking into using 14.04 with Gnome Classic, obviously. ;-)
11:26
That, or MATE.
11:26
<ogra_>
well, that should still work the same i suppose (until they switch to wayland which has no networking opportunities)
11:26
<Hyperbyte>
But preferably the newest Gnome in classic mode.
11:26
Right, how's LTSP going to cope with Wayland, if at all?
11:26
<ogra_>
no idea, might have to use Mir :P
11:27
(which just got screencast capabilities a few weeks ago)
11:28
<Hyperbyte>
So SSH X11 forwarding isn't possible anymore with Wayland?
11:28
<ogra_>
nor with Mir ... right
11:29
<Hyperbyte>
That would suck insanely.
11:29
<ogra_>
they are both not network aware
11:29
by design
11:29
but as i said, Mir just got screencast support ... aournd that one could build some network forwarder
11:30
<Hyperbyte>
I use X11 forwarding to run graphical applications on remote servers in my local desktop. Administration tools on dedicated servers, for example.
11:30
<ogra_>
(i suppose wayland will get such a feature as well at some point)
11:30
<Hyperbyte>
It must!
11:30
Else I'm selling my PC and buying an iPad.
11:31
<ogra_>
well, the design doesnt plan for something like that
11:31
<Hyperbyte>
Well no I'm not. But it'd suck. :P
11:31
<ogra_>
(but the Mir design didnt plan for it either and it still got it ... Mir is simply developer at a much faster speed atm, since it has a huge amount of fulltime devs working on it)
11:32
*developed
11:39
<Hyperbyte>
I haven't heard much about Mir.
11:40
<ogra_>
its the default display server on the ubuntu phone/tablet images ... and 14.04 has an experimental desktop session (with the phone UI though, since there is no desktop one yet)
11:41
<alkisg_web>
Hyperbyte: gnome-flashback was in a bad state and too few people were actually interested in making it better,
11:42
<ogra_>
alkisg_web, oh, was it dropped ?
11:42
<alkisg_web>
fortunately now it's pretty much OK except for a few issues caused by Ubuntu
11:42
<Hyperbyte>
ogra_, mmm..... I know Fedora's anxious to switch to Wayland.
11:42
<ogra_>
there is a mate-desktop metapackage in ubuntu though
11:42
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg_web, what kind of issues?
11:43
<alkisg_web>
E.g. Unity introduced an indicator-complete applet and it's only maintained for unity itself, but they say gnome-fallback has to use it in ubuntu, so some applets are broken
11:43
Like e.g. the keyboard layout indicator
11:44
So we'll have many complains from schools because keyboard layout switching won't work properly anymore...
11:46
<ogra_>
did you try with the ubuntu-gnome stuff instead ? i dont think the gnome guys actually use indicators on their CD
11:46
(though i dont think they focus on flashback at all)
11:47
<alkisg_web>
Ubuntu-gnome doesn't work properly over network (gnome classic)
11:47
<ogra_>
bah
11:48
how about mate ?
11:48
to immature yet ?
11:48
<alkisg_web>
Mate should be fine, being gnome2-like
11:48
Its packaging is not ready yet
11:48
<ogra_>
oh, i thought it was
11:48
thats sad
11:48
<alkisg_web>
Nah, it's expected for jessie
11:49
So my plan for schools here is 14.04 with gnome-flashback, if the keyboard indicator issue is solved, and then jessie with mate
11:50
<ogra_>
well, i see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/mate-desktop/1.6.1-3 in trusty
11:50
<alkisg_web>
It's a dummy package, vagrantc already complained about that but they replied it's ...by design for now
11:51
<ogra_>
bah, silly
11:51
<alkisg_web>
vagrantc was very disappointed by their response to that
11:51
<ogra_>
yeah, i can understand
11:51* ogra_ only sees such stuff pass by on the trusty-changes ML ...
11:51
<ogra_>
i dont have much time nowadays to look at desktop stuff
11:52
<alkisg_web>
It's nice that ubuntu focuses on tablets and phones, but I'd prefer it if they minimized their diff with debian now that they don't have the resources to maintain it properly
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11:53
<ogra_>
debian doesnt have unity :)
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<hugodeb>
alguieb por alli?
12:19
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12:21
<Phantomas>
sbalneav: ping
12:21
ok, he left :)
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13:06
<gymbuntu>
Hi, I have got a question. I use ltsp at school and everything is working fine. I just wonder, if I could produce a live-usb-stick from the nbd image and the kernel at var/lib.../i368, so that my student could use this at home as well. has anyone done this before?
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13:12
<Hyperbyte>
gymbuntu, you're using fat clients I assume?
13:18
<gymbuntu>
yes, thats true, i use fatclients and the only thing I really need beside the nbd image and the kernel is a /home/ workaround...
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<gymbuntu>
... but an empty /home/ would be fine, as we have a school-cloud and can access it with webdav from anywhere. The nbd provides using the webdav in nautilus anyway.
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13:29
<alkisg>
!local-boot
13:29
<ltsp>
local-boot: If you want LTSP fat clients on a low-speed network, you can put i386.img on e.g. C:\Boot\LTSP\i386.img and use this command line in pxelinux.cfg: APPEND ro initrd=ltsp/i386/initrd.img init=/sbin/init-ltsp root=/dev/sda1 rootflags=ro loop=/Boot/LTSP/i386.img; IPAPPEND 3
13:29
<alkisg>
..similar, in grub
13:37
<gymbuntu>
this easy? great. ok. but this still trys to mount the /home/, doesn't it? And next step: how to create an bootable usb-stick from that?
13:37
<alkisg>
grub2 supports booting from squashfs
13:40
<gymbuntu>
so i would make a directory, put kernel and image inside, make a squashfs from this und put the squashfs on a stick and then place a grub2 onto the stick
13:40
is that right?
13:49
<alkisg>
kernel+initrd can be inside the squashfs image with grub2
13:49
For grub 1.99-, you need them in a separate dir
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13:55
<gymbuntu>
ok, thanks, i will try....
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bye
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16:01
<DZII>
Hello all
16:07
<Hyperbyte>
Huwwo!
16:08
<DZII>
for a 12.04 64bit lts install does the network cards need to be built in to the motherboard I have done the quick install and it does not work out of the box as it says
16:11
<Hyperbyte>
It shouldn't matter if nics are on onboard or pci
16:12
As long as they're detected by the OS.
16:15
<DZII>
thats what i thought and yes they are detected by OS but still nothing when i try to boot thin client
16:16
<unkmar>
hey
16:16
<DZII>
so the steps on ubuntu quick install guide is all i have to do ? I am using the Alternate install CD
16:17
<unkmar>
so, um. How might I alter the fat client to sshfs mount /home instead of /home/luser
16:25
<alkisg_web>
unkmar: why not use NFS then/
16:25
?
16:25
With lts.conf => FSTAB_0
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<unkmar>
alkisg_web: sync. I think I tried FSTAB_O and it was one way. Copied from the server to the client and then not synced back. I will attempt again.
16:42
<alkisg_web>
Both NFS and SSHFS are network file systems, their only job is to show you synced stuff
16:42
If they didn't, you probably did something wrong
16:42
<unkmar>
no, I tried FSTAB_0 with a null effect. Nothing appeared to have changed.
16:42
<alkisg_web>
Did you enable nfs on the server?
16:42
<unkmar>
so, yeah, I need to give it another try with a neutral location.
16:43
I forgot, my setup is different from what most appear to do and I still don't understand why my particuar base setup isn't the norm.
16:44
My ltsp server is NOT my DHCP server.
16:49
<alkisg_web>
It doesn't matter wrt home
16:50
I think most people don't have dhcp server == ltsp server nowadays, with ltsp-pnp, proxydhcp etc
16:50
<unkmar>
I guess I didn't enable NFS because I'm not sure how or where to check.
16:51
Most people have a separate office/home router. Many are configurable to redirect the PXE boot protocol so...
16:52
And those that are going to setup LTSP would likely already have all sorts of static IP's and port forwarding setup on said router LONG before LTSP was considered.
16:52
but, I digress. Back to my issue, How, where NFS setup?
16:53
<alkisg_web>
!proxydhcp
16:53
<ltsp>
proxydhcp: A proxy DHCP server is defined by the PXE specification as a server which sends auxiliary boot information to clients, like the boot filename, tftp server or rootpath, but leaves the task of IP leasing to the normal DHCP server. More info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
16:53
<alkisg_web>
That solves all the DHCP problems you mentioned
16:53
To setup NFS, google. :)
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<roc4>
hey
17:02
sound in ltsp
17:02
who can help me
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<unkmar>
alkisg_web: I have exports and that works. does that mean I have nfs running?
17:04
<alkisg_web>
Try to mount nfs from some client. Non-ltsp if it helps you.
17:04
If you can mount nfs manually, then you have nfs running...
17:11
<unkmar>
sounds like, back to exports, where I started.
17:11
<alkisg_web>
If you want the whole /home, yeah. If you want /home/Share, then you can do that with sshfs extra mounts...
17:12
<unkmar>
alkisg_web: would would I do the extra mount, cause that is a cleaner solution.
17:12
*how.
17:12
<alkisg_web>
Like I told you yesterday
17:12
!lts.conf
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<ltsp>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
17:13
<alkisg_web>
Check LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS.
17:13
<unkmar>
yeah, that didn't sync back. that didn't work.
17:13
<alkisg_web>
You didn't do it correctly then
17:13
<unkmar>
it effectively exported data from the server to the client and didn't update back to the server.
17:14
<alkisg_web>
Nah
17:14
You did it wrong
17:14
SSHFS doesn't copy things
17:14
It exports a directory, it's not rsync
17:14
So what you're saying doesn't even make sense...
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<unkmar>
I feel for you. I know how frustrating I must be. I keep missing the required parts and I'm incredibly frustrated. but from angle, its like talking to an idiot. I know, I've been there. I'm so sorry.
17:16
*from your angle.
17:16
<alkisg_web>
You may have hit some ltsp bug if you did things wrong, and you saw what you say
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<alkisg_web>
LTSP could have shown some warning there
17:16
But if you saw ... unsynced stuff, then sshfs was not activated at all
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<unkmar>
hi honey, welcome back.
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<roc4>
no sound on client :( why
17:53
<unkmar>
so, I used LOCAL_MEDIA=True Which I assume uses sshfs. After booting I see /media emtpy. On server I created a media/shared directory with chmod 777 permissions and see it immediately from the client. On the client I run touch myself. File is created and visible to the client. Not seen in the respective location on the server.
17:53
If I reboot the client, the fill will be gone. :(
17:53
*file
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<pmatulis>
what protocol/method is used again for mounting user home directories on the server?
17:55
<unkmar>
pmatulis: if doing fat client, then it is sshfs.
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<pmatulis>
unkmar: ah sshfs sounds familiar, but i never used fat clients. what about standard thin clients? not the same?
17:57
<unkmar>
pmatulis: I don't know that thin clients have there own user space on the server. They are more like a BOOT CD. All is lost during reboot.
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<pmatulis>
unkmar: that's new, not the way i remember a few years back. anyway, i believe sshfs is what i'm after. thanks
17:58
<unkmar>
pmatulis: I think that is the defination differences between thin and fat clients.
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pmatulis: I've only had this running about 8 months. I'm not one of the resident experts.
17:59
Got it up, running, then just walked away and let it run. :)
17:59
<pmatulis>
unkmar: fat clients used to mean they did more processing. usually running a browser and few other popular apps locally
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(instead of on the server)
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<unkmar>
Ah, maybe that is the case. Again, been awhile for me.
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<pmatulis>
unkmar: ciao
18:01
<unkmar>
sshfs makes use of fuse. They tend to go hand in hand. fuse can be used with other Network file systems as well. such as samba.
18:02
<pmatulis>
unkmar: correct, but what are you getting at?
18:03
<unkmar>
just being as complete in information as might be neccessary.
18:03
<pmatulis>
unkmar: thanks bruh
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<unkmar>
pmatulis: I'm likely currently struggling with something very similar to what you maybe attem.... (Dialtone)
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<unkmar>
alkisg: I do have NFS.
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<alkisg>
unkmar: i'm not sure if you're trying nfs or sshfs anymore... :)
18:21
<unkmar>
I'm trying to get SOMETHING to work. :) Something more than READ only or write but not synced.
18:21
<alkisg>
Pastebin the lts.conf you're using for sshfs extra mounts
18:22
Also, which distro/version?
18:25
<unkmar>
debian. Working onthe pastebin now.
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http://paste.debian.net/88585/ <- lts.conf
18:30
debian_version: 7.0
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<alkisg>
I don't see LOCALAPPS_EXTRA_MOUNTS there
18:31
(08:21:51 μμ) alkisg: Pastebin the lts.conf you're using for sshfs extra mounts
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<unkmar>
ah, finally, something that works.
18:50
okay, the description of what I have working. I created /media/share on the server. /media/share is set to a group of which all my users are in. chmod 775 /media/share. And last lts.conf contains LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS=/media/share
18:51
I think I'm still missing gid for all my users so that the file creations are of the proper group. I'll look at that now.
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<roc4>
ubuntu 10.04lts on all clients don't have sound :(
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<jonnyf1ve>
hi can anybody give me some advice about hardware
19:42
<unkmar>
yeah, buy new. :D What's the issue?
19:44
<jonnyf1ve>
I have a load of axel platine thin clients they seem to be able to work with pxe so will they work with ltsp
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<unkmar>
Most likely. I'm not sure what an axel platine is.
19:47
<jonnyf1ve>
axel ax3000 terminal
19:48
dose ltsp have to run as a dhcp host as these terminals already have a session configured on a unix server with a static ip I was goibg to configure a second session for ltsp
19:49
<unkmar>
no, I'm not running ltsp as a dhcp host.
19:50
<jonnyf1ve>
oh ok I thought it had to be dhcp host for pxe to boot so in theory I just install ltsp distro and point my thin clients at it set as pxe boot
19:51
<unkmar>
the dhcp server must point to the ltsp server for booting.
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<jonnyf1ve>
are ok there is no dhcp on the current network
19:53
<unkmar>
the dhcp server and pxe boot server can be on different ips's. since the dhcp tells the client ip and path of the pxe boot file.
19:53
jonnyf1ve: you are running all static ips?
19:53
That must to be a pain to maintain.
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<||cw>
jonnyf1ve: can they run linux?
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<jonnyf1ve>
its currently a pos system running accounts and sales in sco unix. the last guy set all statics I dont know why
19:57
no they are juat purely thin clients
19:57
<||cw>
then ltsp won't really help.
19:58
I mean, I'm sure you can get their X11 support to work with an ltsp server, but the ltsp bits won't actually be doing much
19:59
ltsp is strongest at using any ol' pc diskless as a thin client, or a decent pc as a fat client
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<jonnyf1ve>
they work with rdp in windows and vnc. I just wanna give each workstation a desktop and internet ect
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<||cw>
so, what exactly gets PXE'd on these? a config file?
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