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| 06:40 | <work_alkisg>  (11:30:26 μμ) unkmar: the local extra thing appears to share static files.  Users can modify but it isn't reflected back to the system. | |
| 06:41 |  ==> you did something wrong there then | |
| 06:41 |  Try again and post more info about what's going wrong | |
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| 06:50 | <roces4>  hey | |
| 06:50 |  i've a question | |
| 06:51 |  I have a ltsp server ubuntu 10.04 lts. and 100 customers, unfortunately there is no sound on stations | |
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| 06:53 | <work_alkisg>  There never was? | |
| 06:55 | <roces4>  never | |
| 06:56 |  stations are redirected to windows 7 and are they logging into domain, I don't know whether it is necessary to place globally on the server? | |
| 06:56 |  i've to have sound on workstations | |
| 06:57 | <work_alkisg>  If you're using xfreerdp, you should mention it :) | |
| 06:57 |  With xfreerdp, you might be missing some sound option | |
| 06:57 |  With pulseaudio, it's a different story | |
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| 06:58 | <roces4>  that is I must install on the server pulseaudio? | |
| 06:58 | <work_alkisg>  No | |
| 06:58 |  Paste your lts.conf to pastebin | |
| 07:00 | <roces4>  in the lts.conf file I have poprostu addresses written down local_apps = true screen_ 01 = rdesktop - f tc-lic.omnis.org | |
| 07:00 |  ok moment | |
| 07:04 |  [default] LDM_AUTOLOGIN = true DNS_SERVE = 17.16.1.230  LDM_DEBUG_TERMINAL = false LOCAL_APPS = true LOCAL_APPS = rdesktop, xterm  SCREEN_01 = " rdesktop -f tc-vlic.omnis.org"  [00:19:db:2f:f3:b8] LDM_USERNAME = test LDM_PASSWORD = test1 | |
| 07:05 | <work_alkisg>  You need rdesktop *and* localapps? Are you sure? | |
| 07:06 | <roces4>  He only needs rdesktop and sound on stations, so what I must mend | |
| 07:09 |  I mean only so that sound is moved through rdesktop | |
| 07:09 | <work_alkisg>  You need something like "-r sound:local", check the rdesktop man page | |
| 07:11 | <roces4>  please help me | |
| 07:11 |  :) | |
| 07:11 | <work_alkisg>  No, read the manual | |
| 07:11 |  Or ask in the rdesktop mailing list :) | |
| 07:11 |  Or use google! | |
| 07:12 |  It's just 1 parameter, you don't need IRC for that... | |
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| 07:12 | <roces4>  that is I understand around parameter to rdesktop must I add? and to remove localapps? | |
| 07:12 | <work_alkisg>  You need to add a parameter to rdesktop, yes | |
| 07:13 |  You don't need LOCAL_APPS but it doesn't hurt either | |
| 07:13 | <roces4>  ltsp-build-client after or no? | |
| 07:14 | <work_alkisg>  No | |
| 07:14 | <roces4>  only modify lts.conf and this all | |
| 07:14 |  to add only this 1 parameter this way? | |
| 07:14 | <work_alkisg>  Yes | |
| 07:18 | <roces4>  SCREEN_01 = "rdesktop  -f -r sound:local tc-vlic.omnis.org" ? | |
| 07:18 |  ? | |
| 07:18 | <work_alkisg>  Don't use SCREEN_01 it's reserved for boot messages, use SCREEN_07= instead | |
| 07:20 | <roces4>  but I have 2 servers with 2 addresses: in the lts.conf file  SCREEN_ 02 = "rdesktop - f ts-vlib.omnis.org" SCREEN_ 01 = "rdesktop - f ts-cen.omnis.org" | |
| 07:21 | <work_alkisg>  You didn't paste that, you only pasted SCREEN_01 when I asked your lts.conf | |
| 07:21 |  Use SCREEN_07 and SCREEN_08 | |
| 07:21 | <roces4>  ok | |
| 07:23 |  ok I will exchange on 07 but whether this parameter well napisalem? SCREEN_ 07 = "rdesktop - f - r sound: local ts-lib.omnis.org" SCREEN_ 08 = "rdesktop - f - r sound: local ts-cen.omnis.org"  Is it this way correctly? | |
| 07:23 | <work_alkisg>  Did you read the rdesktop man page? | |
| 07:23 | <roces4>  tak | |
| 07:23 |  yes | |
| 07:23 | <work_alkisg>  OK, whatever it writes there | |
| 07:24 |  It's not LTSP-specific | |
| 07:25 | <roces4>  to put where I have this parameter?: ( | |
| 07:27 |  [Default]  SCREEN_07 = rdesktop  RDP_SERVER = ts-lib.omnis.org  RDP_OPTIONS = "-r sound:local" | |
| 07:27 |  ? | |
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| 07:29 | <roces4>  work_alkisg | |
| 07:29 |  it's good? | |
| 07:32 | <work_alkisg>  Try the single line | |
| 07:32 |  SCREEN_ 07 = "rdesktop - f - r sound: local ts-lib.omnis.org" SCREEN_ 08 = "rdesktop - f - r sound: local ts-cen.omnis.org" | |
| 07:32 |  Without RDP_SERVER and RDP_OPTIONS | |
| 07:34 | <roces4>  thanks | |
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| 07:47 | <work_alkisg>  Note that you have spaces in the options above, "- r" is "minus" "space" "r", so it won't work if you don't remove the space | |
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| 07:57 | <roces4>  work_alkisg no sound :( | |
| 07:57 |  tshis is conf lts.conf | |
| 07:58 |  SCREEN_07 =  "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-lib.omnis.org" SCREEN_08 =  "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-cen.omnis.org" | |
| 08:00 |  why it not-works | |
| 08:02 |  what is not this way? | |
| 08:06 |  work_alkisg | |
| 08:06 |  help me? | |
| 08:09 |  I did the way you wrote but is out of order, why? | |
| 08:15 |  who can help me? | |
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| 08:20 | <roces4>  I have a server ubuntu to the terminal server's fault, unfortunately I don't have 10.04 and 100 stations which are logging on of sound on customers, whether somebody can help me? | |
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| 08:50 | <Hyperbyte>  roces4, ehm... what? | |
| 08:50 | <roces4>  hey heperbyte | |
| 08:51 | <Hyperbyte>  I understand you might have some problems with English language, but I really can't understand what you just wrote.  Can you explain better what your problem is? | |
| 08:51 | <roces4>  I have a ltsp server and 100 customers, uniting to the Windows terminal server, how to do so that there is sound on customers | |
| 08:52 |  no sound on the clients | |
| 08:52 | <Hyperbyte>  Since when does this problem occur? | |
| 08:53 | <roces4>  Earlier I didn't need to have dźwieku, however now needs | |
| 08:53 |  Earlier I didn't need to have sound, however now needs | |
| 08:53 |  :) | |
| 08:54 |  it is an entry from lts.conf, SCREEN_07 =  "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-lib.omnis.org" SCREEN_08 =  "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-cen.omnis.org" | |
| 08:54 | <Hyperbyte>  Okay, so you've never had sound working before, correct? | |
| 08:55 | <roces4>  exacly | |
| 08:55 |  exactly sorry | |
| 08:55 |  :) | |
| 08:56 |  whether you need entire lts configurations? | |
| 08:58 |  and now unfortunately needs sound on stations | |
| 08:59 |  hyper are you? | |
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| 09:06 | <roces4>  :( | |
| 09:13 |  CREEN_08 =  "rdesktop -f -r sound:local ts-cen.omnis.org" what is wrong | |
| 09:13 |  ? | |
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| 09:28 | <roces4>  wo can help me | |
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| 09:30 | <roces4>  elo | |
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| 09:38 | <roces4>  ? | |
| 09:42 |  sound in ltsp | |
| 09:42 |  who can help me | |
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| 09:53 | <crack3r>  hi, my thin clients use the same user to login and share the same home directory, how can I prevent them from opening multiple sessions? Is there a setting based on the IP address? | |
| 10:07 | <roces4>  who can help me | |
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| 10:14 | <roces4>  alkisg, no sound :( | |
| 10:15 | <alkisg_web>  roces4: did you ask in the rdesktop mailing list? | |
| 10:15 |  roces4: login to some linux pc. then run rdesktop from gnome-terminal | |
| 10:15 |  Once you've found the correct command, then put it to lts.conf | |
| 10:15 |  If you don't find the correct command, ask in the rdesktop mailing list, not here | |
| 10:16 | <roces4>  ok | |
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| 10:21 | <roces4>  rdesktop mailing list wgere? | |
| 10:21 |  where | |
| 10:21 | <alkisg_web>  Google to find it | |
| 10:21 |  crack3r: check LDM_LIMIT_ONE_SESSION in the lts.conf manpage | |
| 10:21 |  !lts.conf | |
| 10:21 | <ltsp>  lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf | |
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| 10:32 | <Hyperbyte>  alkisg_web, hi... any idea how Ubuntu 14.04 would work with LTSP thin clients? :) | |
| 10:33 |  Mainly curious about the desktop bits... newer version of Gnome, Unity, etc... | |
| 10:33 |  Would Gnome classic work as expected? :) | |
| 10:42 | <ogra_>  14.04 only had polishing changes to Unity ... should work/not work the same as 13.10 did | |
| 10:43 |  (or 13.04 .... there were no bigger changes between 13.04 and 13.10 either) | |
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| 10:47 | <seifdean>  Hi guys i've installed ltsp server with 60 linutop station , my problem when i restart the linutop the old sessions LTSP-CLIENT instances are not killed automatically | |
| 10:51 | <Hyperbyte>  ogra_, I never tried anything past 12.04. | |
| 10:51 |  I'm mainly curious between differences between 12.04 and 14.04, but can't find much info on it | |
| 10:52 | <ogra_>  well, i have no clue if unity works at all ... thats why i said "working/non working" :) | |
| 10:52 |  but i know there were no major code changes since 13.904 | |
| 10:52 |  err | |
| 10:52 |  13.04 | |
| 10:52 |  (and there wont be until it switches to unity8/Mir) | |
| 10:58 | <Hyperbyte>  I actually don't like Unity, nor does it work with non compositing hardware or via remote X (or any combination of the two or whatever - not sure) | |
| 10:58 |  Point it doesn't work, which is fine because I couldn't care much less about Unity.  I'm more curious if the Gnome Classic desktop in 14.04 still supports non compositing hardware. | |
| 11:04 | * ogra_ has no idea about Gnome .... havent used it since it got unusable UI changes :P | |
| 11:09 | <Hyperbyte>  What are those? | |
| 11:13 | <ogra_>  Gnome 3 | |
| 11:13 |  i find it unusable | |
| 11:14 |  and completely unintuitive | |
| 11:16 |  (i must admit i havent tired any recent versions, might have gotten better .... but i doubt it will speed up my productivity like unity does) | |
| 11:24 | <Hyperbyte>  No, I mean, why do you find that? | |
| 11:24 |  I find the difference between Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 fallback are quite minimal. | |
| 11:24 |  Well, dconf instead of gconf, but that I actually like, a lot. | |
| 11:25 | <ogra_>  ah, yeah, not talking about fallback :) | |
| 11:25 | <Hyperbyte>  I'm looking into using 14.04 with Gnome Classic, obviously. ;-) | |
| 11:26 |  That, or MATE. | |
| 11:26 | <ogra_>  well, that should still work the same i suppose (until they switch to wayland which has no networking opportunities) | |
| 11:26 | <Hyperbyte>  But preferably the newest Gnome in classic mode. | |
| 11:26 |  Right, how's LTSP going to cope with Wayland, if at all? | |
| 11:26 | <ogra_>  no idea, might have to use Mir :P | |
| 11:27 |  (which just got screencast capabilities a few weeks ago) | |
| 11:28 | <Hyperbyte>  So SSH X11 forwarding isn't possible anymore with Wayland? | |
| 11:28 | <ogra_>  nor with Mir ... right | |
| 11:29 | <Hyperbyte>  That would suck insanely. | |
| 11:29 | <ogra_>  they are both not network aware | |
| 11:29 |  by design | |
| 11:29 |  but as i said, Mir just got screencast support ... aournd that one could build some network forwarder | |
| 11:30 | <Hyperbyte>  I use X11 forwarding to run graphical applications on remote servers in my local desktop.  Administration tools on dedicated servers, for example. | |
| 11:30 | <ogra_>  (i suppose wayland will get such a feature as well at some point) | |
| 11:30 | <Hyperbyte>  It must! | |
| 11:30 |  Else I'm selling my PC and buying an iPad. | |
| 11:31 | <ogra_>  well, the design doesnt plan for something like that | |
| 11:31 | <Hyperbyte>  Well no I'm not.  But it'd suck. :P | |
| 11:31 | <ogra_>  (but the Mir design didnt plan for it either and it still got it ... Mir is simply  developer at a much faster speed atm, since it has a huge amount of fulltime devs working on it) | |
| 11:32 |  *developed | |
| 11:39 | <Hyperbyte>  I haven't heard much about Mir. | |
| 11:40 | <ogra_>  its the default display server on the ubuntu phone/tablet images ... and 14.04 has an experimental desktop session (with the phone UI though, since there is no desktop one yet) | |
| 11:41 | <alkisg_web>  Hyperbyte: gnome-flashback was in a bad state and too few people were actually interested in making it better, | |
| 11:42 | <ogra_>  alkisg_web, oh, was it dropped ? | |
| 11:42 | <alkisg_web>  fortunately now it's pretty much OK except for a few issues caused by Ubuntu | |
| 11:42 | <Hyperbyte>  ogra_, mmm..... I know Fedora's anxious to switch to Wayland. | |
| 11:42 | <ogra_>  there is a mate-desktop metapackage in ubuntu though | |
| 11:42 | <Hyperbyte>  alkisg_web, what kind of issues? | |
| 11:43 | <alkisg_web>  E.g. Unity introduced an indicator-complete applet and it's only maintained for unity itself, but they say gnome-fallback has to use it in ubuntu, so some applets are broken | |
| 11:43 |  Like e.g. the keyboard layout indicator | |
| 11:44 |  So we'll have many complains from schools because keyboard layout switching won't work properly anymore... | |
| 11:46 | <ogra_>  did you try with the ubuntu-gnome stuff instead ? i dont think the gnome guys actually use indicators on their CD | |
| 11:46 |  (though i dont think they focus on flashback at all) | |
| 11:47 | <alkisg_web>  Ubuntu-gnome doesn't work properly over network (gnome classic) | |
| 11:47 | <ogra_>  bah | |
| 11:48 |  how about mate ? | |
| 11:48 |  to immature yet ? | |
| 11:48 | <alkisg_web>  Mate should be fine, being gnome2-like | |
| 11:48 |  Its packaging is not ready yet | |
| 11:48 | <ogra_>  oh, i thought it was | |
| 11:48 |  thats sad | |
| 11:48 | <alkisg_web>  Nah, it's expected for jessie | |
| 11:49 |  So my plan for schools here is 14.04 with gnome-flashback, if the keyboard indicator issue is solved, and then jessie with mate | |
| 11:50 | <ogra_>  well, i see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/mate-desktop/1.6.1-3 in trusty | |
| 11:50 | <alkisg_web>  It's a dummy package, vagrantc already complained about that but they replied it's ...by design for now | |
| 11:51 | <ogra_>  bah, silly | |
| 11:51 | <alkisg_web>  vagrantc was very disappointed by their response to that | |
| 11:51 | <ogra_>  yeah, i can understand | |
| 11:51 | * ogra_ only sees such stuff pass by on the trusty-changes ML ... | |
| 11:51 | <ogra_>  i dont have much time nowadays to look at desktop stuff | |
| 11:52 | <alkisg_web>  It's nice that ubuntu focuses on tablets and phones, but I'd prefer it if they minimized their diff with debian now that they don't have the resources to maintain it properly | |
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| 11:52 | * alkisg_web waves, bbl | |
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| 11:53 | <ogra_>  debian doesnt have unity :) | |
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| 13:06 | <gymbuntu>  Hi, I have got a question. I use ltsp at school and everything is working fine. I just wonder, if I could  produce a live-usb-stick from the nbd image and the kernel at var/lib.../i368, so that my student could use this at home as well. has anyone done this before? | |
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| 13:12 | <Hyperbyte>  gymbuntu, you're using fat clients I assume? | |
| 13:18 | <gymbuntu>  yes, thats true, i use fatclients and the only thing I really need beside the nbd image and the kernel is a /home/ workaround... | |
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| 13:24 | <gymbuntu>  ... but an empty /home/ would be fine, as we have a school-cloud and can access it with webdav from anywhere. The nbd provides using the webdav in nautilus anyway. | |
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| 13:29 | <alkisg>  !local-boot | |
| 13:29 | <ltsp>  local-boot: If you want LTSP fat clients on a low-speed network, you can put i386.img on e.g. C:\Boot\LTSP\i386.img and use this command line in pxelinux.cfg: APPEND ro initrd=ltsp/i386/initrd.img init=/sbin/init-ltsp root=/dev/sda1 rootflags=ro loop=/Boot/LTSP/i386.img; IPAPPEND 3 | |
| 13:29 | <alkisg>  ..similar, in grub | |
| 13:37 | <gymbuntu>  this easy? great. ok. but this still trys to mount the /home/, doesn't it? And next step: how to create an bootable usb-stick from that? | |
| 13:37 | <alkisg>  grub2 supports booting from squashfs | |
| 13:40 | <gymbuntu>  so i would make a directory, put kernel and image inside, make a squashfs from this und put the squashfs on a stick and then place a grub2 onto the stick | |
| 13:40 |  is that right? | |
| 13:49 | <alkisg>  kernel+initrd can be inside the squashfs image with grub2 | |
| 13:49 |  For grub 1.99-, you need them in a separate dir | |
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| 13:55 | <gymbuntu>  ok, thanks, i will try.... | |
| 13:55 |  bye | |
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| 16:01 | <DZII>  Hello all | |
| 16:07 | <Hyperbyte>  Huwwo! | |
| 16:08 | <DZII>  for a 12.04 64bit lts install does the network cards need to be built in to the motherboard  I have done the quick install and it does not work out of the box as it says | |
| 16:11 | <Hyperbyte>  It shouldn't matter if nics are on onboard or pci | |
| 16:12 |  As long as they're detected by the OS. | |
| 16:15 | <DZII>  thats what i thought and yes they are detected by OS but still nothing when i try to boot thin client | |
| 16:16 | <unkmar>  hey | |
| 16:16 | <DZII>  so the steps on ubuntu quick install guide is all i have to do ? I am using the Alternate install CD | |
| 16:17 | <unkmar>  so, um.  How might I alter the fat client to sshfs mount /home instead of /home/luser | |
| 16:25 | <alkisg_web>  unkmar: why not use NFS then/ | |
| 16:25 |  ? | |
| 16:25 |  With lts.conf => FSTAB_0 | |
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| 16:40 | <unkmar>  alkisg_web: sync.  I think I tried FSTAB_O and it was one way.  Copied from the server to the client and then not synced back. I will attempt again. | |
| 16:42 | <alkisg_web>  Both NFS and SSHFS are network file systems, their only job is to show you synced stuff | |
| 16:42 |  If they didn't, you probably did something wrong | |
| 16:42 | <unkmar>  no, I tried FSTAB_0 with a null effect.  Nothing appeared to have changed. | |
| 16:42 | <alkisg_web>  Did you enable nfs on the server? | |
| 16:42 | <unkmar>  so, yeah, I need to give it another try with a neutral location. | |
| 16:43 |  I forgot, my setup is different from what most appear to do and I still don't understand why my particuar base setup isn't the norm. | |
| 16:44 |  My ltsp server is NOT my DHCP server. | |
| 16:49 | <alkisg_web>  It doesn't matter wrt home | |
| 16:50 |  I think most people don't have dhcp server == ltsp server nowadays, with ltsp-pnp, proxydhcp etc | |
| 16:50 | <unkmar>  I guess I didn't enable NFS because I'm not sure how or where to check. | |
| 16:51 |  Most people have a  separate office/home router.  Many are configurable to redirect the PXE boot protocol so... | |
| 16:52 |  And those that are going to setup LTSP would likely already have all sorts of static IP's and port forwarding setup on said router LONG before LTSP was considered. | |
| 16:52 |  but, I digress.  Back to my issue, How, where NFS setup? | |
| 16:53 | <alkisg_web>  !proxydhcp | |
| 16:53 | <ltsp>  proxydhcp: A proxy DHCP server is defined by the PXE specification as a server which sends auxiliary boot information to clients, like the boot filename, tftp server or rootpath, but leaves the task of IP leasing to the normal DHCP server. More info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP | |
| 16:53 | <alkisg_web>  That solves all the DHCP problems you mentioned | |
| 16:53 |  To setup NFS, google. :) | |
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| 16:59 | <roc4>  hey | |
| 17:02 |  sound in ltsp | |
| 17:02 |  who can help me | |
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| 17:04 | <unkmar>  alkisg_web: I have exports and that works. does that mean I have nfs running? | |
| 17:04 | <alkisg_web>  Try to mount nfs from some client. Non-ltsp if it helps you. | |
| 17:04 |  If you can mount nfs manually, then you have nfs running... | |
| 17:11 | <unkmar>  sounds like, back to exports, where I started. | |
| 17:11 | <alkisg_web>  If you want the whole /home, yeah. If you want /home/Share, then you can do that with sshfs extra mounts... | |
| 17:12 | <unkmar>  alkisg_web: would would I do the extra mount, cause that is a cleaner solution. | |
| 17:12 |  *how. | |
| 17:12 | <alkisg_web>  Like I told you yesterday | |
| 17:12 |  !lts.conf | |
| 17:12 | <ltsp>  lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf | |
| 17:13 | <alkisg_web>  Check LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS. | |
| 17:13 | <unkmar>  yeah, that didn't sync back.  that didn't work. | |
| 17:13 | <alkisg_web>  You didn't do it correctly then | |
| 17:13 | <unkmar>  it effectively exported data from the server to the client and didn't update back to the server. | |
| 17:14 | <alkisg_web>  Nah | |
| 17:14 |  You did it wrong | |
| 17:14 |  SSHFS doesn't copy things | |
| 17:14 |  It exports a directory, it's not rsync | |
| 17:14 |  So what you're saying doesn't even make sense... | |
| 17:16 | <unkmar>  I feel for you.  I know how frustrating I must be.  I keep missing the required parts and I'm incredibly frustrated.  but from angle, its like talking to an idiot.  I know, I've been there.  I'm so sorry. | |
| 17:16 |  *from your angle. | |
| 17:16 | <alkisg_web>  You may have hit some ltsp bug if you did things wrong, and you saw what you say | |
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| 17:16 | <alkisg_web>  LTSP could have shown some warning there | |
| 17:16 |  But if you saw ... unsynced stuff, then sshfs was not activated at all | |
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| 17:25 | <unkmar>  hi honey, welcome back. | |
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| 17:48 | <roc4>  no sound on client :( why | |
| 17:53 | <unkmar>  so, I used LOCAL_MEDIA=True  Which I assume uses sshfs. After booting I see /media emtpy.  On server I created a media/shared directory with chmod 777 permissions and see it immediately from the client.  On the client I run touch myself.  File is created and visible to the client.  Not seen in the respective location on the server. | |
| 17:53 |  If I reboot the client, the fill will be gone. :( | |
| 17:53 |  *file | |
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| 17:55 | <pmatulis>  what protocol/method is used again for mounting user home directories on the server? | |
| 17:55 | <unkmar>  pmatulis: if doing fat client, then it is sshfs. | |
| 17:56 | <pmatulis>  unkmar: ah sshfs sounds familiar, but i never used fat clients.  what about standard thin clients?  not the same? | |
| 17:57 | <unkmar>  pmatulis: I don't know that thin clients have there own user space on the server.  They are more like a BOOT CD.  All is lost during reboot. | |
| 17:58 | <pmatulis>  unkmar: that's new, not the way i remember a few years back.  anyway, i believe sshfs is what i'm after.  thanks | |
| 17:58 | <unkmar>  pmatulis: I think that is the defination differences between thin and fat clients. | |
| 17:59 |  pmatulis: I've only had this running about 8 months.  I'm not one of the resident experts. | |
| 17:59 |  Got it up, running, then just walked away and let it run. :) | |
| 17:59 | <pmatulis>  unkmar: fat clients used to mean they did more processing.  usually running a browser and few other popular apps locally | |
| 17:59 |  (instead of on the server) | |
| 18:00 | <unkmar>  Ah, maybe that is the case.  Again, been awhile for me. | |
| 18:00 | <pmatulis>  unkmar: ciao | |
| 18:01 | <unkmar>  sshfs makes use of fuse.  They tend to go hand in hand.  fuse can be used with other Network file systems as well.  such as samba. | |
| 18:02 | <pmatulis>  unkmar: correct, but what are you getting at? | |
| 18:03 | <unkmar>  just being as complete in information as might be neccessary. | |
| 18:03 | <pmatulis>  unkmar: thanks bruh | |
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| 18:04 | <unkmar>  pmatulis: I'm likely currently struggling with something very similar to what you maybe attem.... (Dialtone) | |
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| 18:17 | <unkmar>  alkisg: I do have NFS. | |
| 18:20 | <alkisg>  unkmar: i'm not sure if you're trying nfs or sshfs anymore... :) | |
| 18:21 | <unkmar>  I'm trying to get SOMETHING to work. :) Something more than READ only or write but not synced. | |
| 18:21 | <alkisg>  Pastebin the lts.conf you're using for sshfs extra mounts | |
| 18:22 |  Also, which distro/version? | |
| 18:25 | <unkmar>  debian.  Working onthe pastebin now. | |
| 18:29 |  http://paste.debian.net/88585/ <- lts.conf | |
| 18:30 |  debian_version: 7.0 | |
| 18:31 | <alkisg>  I don't see LOCALAPPS_EXTRA_MOUNTS there | |
| 18:31 |  (08:21:51 μμ) alkisg: Pastebin the lts.conf you're using for sshfs extra mounts | |
| 18:45 | <unkmar>  ah, finally, something that works. | |
| 18:50 |  okay, the description of what I have working.  I created /media/share on the server.  /media/share is set to a group of which all my users are in.  chmod 775 /media/share. And last lts.conf contains LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS=/media/share | |
| 18:51 |  I think I'm still missing gid for all my users so that the file creations are of the proper group.  I'll look at that now. | |
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| 19:40 | <roc4>  ubuntu 10.04lts on all clients don't have sound :( | |
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| 19:41 | <jonnyf1ve>  hi can anybody give me some advice about hardware | |
| 19:42 | <unkmar>  yeah, buy new. :D  What's the issue? | |
| 19:44 | <jonnyf1ve>  I have a load of axel platine thin clients they seem to be able to work with pxe so will they work with ltsp | |
| 19:46 | <unkmar>  Most likely.  I'm not sure what an axel platine is. | |
| 19:47 | <jonnyf1ve>  axel ax3000 terminal | |
| 19:48 |  dose ltsp have to run as a dhcp host as these terminals already have a session configured on a unix server with a static ip I was goibg to configure a second session for ltsp | |
| 19:49 | <unkmar>  no, I'm not running ltsp as a dhcp host. | |
| 19:50 | <jonnyf1ve>  oh ok I thought it had to be dhcp host for pxe to boot so in theory I just install ltsp distro and point my thin clients at it set as pxe boot | |
| 19:51 | <unkmar>  the dhcp server must point to the ltsp server for booting. | |
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| 19:53 | <jonnyf1ve>  are ok there is no dhcp on the current network | |
| 19:53 | <unkmar>  the dhcp server and pxe boot server can be on different ips's. since the dhcp tells the client ip and path of the pxe boot file. | |
| 19:53 |  jonnyf1ve: you are running all static ips? | |
| 19:53 |  That must to be a pain to maintain. | |
| 19:56 | <||cw>  jonnyf1ve: can they run linux? | |
| 19:57 | <jonnyf1ve>  its currently a pos system running accounts and sales in sco unix. the last guy set all statics I dont know why | |
| 19:57 |  no they are juat purely thin clients | |
| 19:57 | <||cw>  then ltsp won't really help. | |
| 19:58 |  I mean, I'm sure you can get their X11 support to work with an ltsp server, but the ltsp bits won't actually be doing much | |
| 19:59 |  ltsp is strongest at using any ol' pc diskless as a thin client, or a decent pc as a fat client | |
| 20:00 | <jonnyf1ve>  they work with rdp in windows and vnc. I just wanna give each workstation a desktop and internet ect | |
| 20:07 | <||cw>  so, what exactly gets PXE'd on these?  a config file? | |
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