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Channel log from 29 April 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<rasmuson>
Anyone knows how to get a list of installed deb packages sorted by install date?
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<gvy>
ugh, know how to do that with rpm
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10:04* gvy is away: I'm bussy
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<milosz>
gvy: http://ltsp.mindtouchsoftware.com/
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<gvy>
milosz, thanks; mirroring @ ftp.linux.kiev.ua, ok?
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argh, bzr dir :)
10:06
milosz, awfully sorry, could you lend a bzr command to pull it?
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<vagrantc_>
bzr get URL
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<gvy>
tnx vagrantc_
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<vagrantc_>
no problem :)
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<milosz>
got it?
10:08
it's a work in progress but I'm almost there
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<gvy>
Fetch phase 1/4
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<milosz>
i'm working on the way the algorithm to pick the best one
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<gvy>
might be interested in cluster load balancing algos?
10:10
<milosz>
well what is comes down to really is multi-variable optimization
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which is a whole area of math, but it's hard to come up series of steps that always leads to the optimial result
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and because this isn't a job but a user, if we make a bad choice it's very evident to the user
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<milosz>
so i'm going to do kind of what jim suggested, i'll provide thresholds for memory,load, etc for the user to set
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<gvy>
generally users don't care though...
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<milosz>
and then on all resulting server that are not thrown away we'll try to pick one with least users
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<gvy>
you can pull anther trick: try to monitor user's session (ram/cpu utilization) via sysstat
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<milosz>
well in our application some machine can have no memory used by a hudge fluent process chewing up all 4 cores
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<gvy>
and use that data for further logins
10:13
Branched 516 revision(s).
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<milosz>
well that's not needed there is a server component (a daemon) that provides me that info that i already writen that's there
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<gvy>
sehr gut :)
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<milosz>
and the only thing the component does do right now is get the number of logged in users the rest of it is done
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<vagrantc_>
milosz: this is some sort of load balancer ?
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<milosz>
yeah
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<vagrantc_>
milosz: for LDM or xdmcp .. or ?
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ogra: any suggestions one where to look for specs to subscribe to ?
10:26
ogra: or suggestions of which to subscribe to ?
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<milosz>
right now ldm
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<vagrantc_>
milosz: you have a branch somewhere?
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<milosz>
in future it'll be offered with more options
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http://ltsp.mindtouchsoftware.com/
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<vagrantc_>
bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: http://ltsp.mindtouchsoftware.com/
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<milosz>
http://ltsp.mindtouchsoftware.com/ltsp-loadbalance/
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<vagrantc_>
:)
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<milosz>
i wrote all of it in python so it would not be a big hastle to get it upstream for any distro
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11:02* vagrantc_ grumbles about ltsp not migrating to testing due to the .udeb
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<Q-FUNK>
marek82: tere! are you located anywhere near Tallinn?
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<marek82>
yes i am
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i live in tallinn
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:)
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<Q-FUNK>
excellent. what thin client hardware do you use with LTSP?
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<marek82>
mosltly regular pc...
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<Q-FUNK>
ok
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<marek82>
pc, what got old a bit
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latley i have been wrking to get it all runing under centos5 =)
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wrks now to
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<Q-FUNK>
oho :)
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<marek82>
nicelyy
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yay
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had some minor difficultys
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but its oky now
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got some good help from here ;)
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<Q-FUNK>
:D
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<milosz>
okay, i got a basic server picker working
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basicaly what i did is threw away all the ones not respondig ones... and picked a random one from the others
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and in RL random works pretty well
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there's some tunables for greater control but i didn't test that code path yet
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<milosz>
man, i realized that i use 2.5 modules/features in my code
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<cliebow>
milosz, not two..not three..just two and a half?
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<milosz>
2.5 python
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more like python 2.5
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<cliebow>
milosz hit me with stick if you like 8~)
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<metztlixictli>
se irule
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hola vagrantc
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<milosz>
cliebow: only like what 5 hours later
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<vagrantc>
metztlixictli: hola
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