IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 23 July 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<alkisg>
Heh, nbd-server for windows: http://www.vanheusden.com/windows/nbdsrvr/
02:07
So I guess it's possible to use LTSP without Linux! (pxe/tftp => nbd => rdesktop)
02:11
<muppis>
Does LTSP stand for Linux Terminal Server Project?
02:13
<alkisg>
Yup
02:13
<muppis>
So it couldn't (as I think of..) be LTS anymore, if there is Windows as server..
02:13
<alkisg>
The boot OS would be still Linux :)
02:13
(the nbd image)
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I mean that a Linux server wouldn't be necessary, but the virtual client disk would still contain a linux os
02:15
<muppis>
And I count it vice versa.
02:16
But using Windows in client disk would some kind of masochism..
02:16
would be..
02:16
<alkisg>
...if not impossible
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<muppis>
That's ture. Dos -based Windows (95/98/me) would work, done that.
02:19
<alkisg>
Yeah having a net disk over int 13h is easy, but that's not possible with the NT series
02:19
<muppis>
Actually I did diskless Win95. Booted from CD, created RAMdrive, copied whole punch from CD to RAM and then started Windows.
02:19
<alkisg>
The biggest problem is hardware changes on the clients though
02:20
So even with windows 9x, you can't have win-based thin clients that work out of the box independed of the client hardware
02:21
With linux, kids come to schools and boot their netbooks as thin or fat clients. That's pretty much impossible with any windows technology so far...
02:22
<muppis>
That's true.
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<muppis>
By the way. It should be hottest time in year here in Finland (and sure it is, been over 25C whole month) and it's snowing NW part of Finland..
02:24
<alkisg>
omg!
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<hiltunen>
Hello
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<alkisg>
Good morning
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<Atomic007za>
hi
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<beaconhurst>
hi anyone here
06:45
<alkisg>
\ask
06:45
!ask
06:45
<ltspbot`>
alkisg: "ask" :: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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<pmatulis>
in ubuntu, are local apps set up on lucid the same as on jaunty? the ubuntu docs at help.ubuntu.com don't cover lucid
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<alkisg>
pmatulis: the most recent page is about karmic, follow that one
08:05
Both the karmic + jaunty pages are unnecessarily complicated, but karmic is a little better.
08:06
So, something like that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSPKarmicLocalAppsFirefox
08:06
<pmatulis>
alkisg: ok, thought that was especially for firefox
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<alkisg>
pmatulis: it is, but you can just use "apt-get install yourprogram" instead of "apt-get install firefox" there
08:07
<pmatulis>
alkisg: yeah, ok, thanks
08:08
<alkisg>
Feel free to write a new page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LocalApps with all the correct info for Lucid+
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08:27
<pmatulis>
what is the trick to get a terminal running on the client again?
08:28
<alkisg>
!localxterm
08:28
<ltspbot`>
alkisg: "localxterm" :: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
08:29
<pmatulis>
alkisg: yeah, think that
08:29
is it
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<pmatulis>
alkisg: you nailed it, thanks
08:32
<alkisg>
np
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<slin_>
re
08:39
i have an issue, with ltsp cluster.
08:40
basicly i have 2 appservers, with ubuntu 9.10 - thats working fine
08:40
i updated one of the appservers to 10.4 LTS, for testing. basicly OK, but the sound were gone
08:40
the boot server and the boot images are still 9.10
08:41
any idea?
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<markjenkinsparit>
!seen sbalneav
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<ltspbot`>
markjenkinsparit: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 8 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours, 41 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <sbalneav> win 1
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<mgariepy>
morning guys
10:18
any of you had seen nbd_server Not enough magic in syslog ?
10:20
<vagrantc>
we do live in a more mundane world these days, it's true. funny that nbd would be the one to notice, though
10:20
<alkisg>
Lol
10:20
<mgariepy>
hehe
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<alkisg>
mgariepy: no, I haven't seen it, that message seems to be in the request packet analyzing phase of nbd-server, so it shouldn't be too common
10:23
Maybe problems in nbd-proxy or in the network could cause it?
10:23
(I'm not using nbd-proxy...
10:26
<mgariepy>
alkisg, hmm i'll try disabling nbd-proxy
10:27
i'm aware it's not common it's the first time i saw this in 30 months ;)
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<coordinador>
Hi, i use ltsp5 and ubuntu 9.04, suddenly vinagre doesnt find vnc servers in network, possibly vncserver doesnt notify to avahi
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so i cannot monitor users
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to monitor them i have to put manually servername:5900, 5901, etc..
13:39
<alkisg>
coordinador: I filed this bug, maybe you should do the same: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625062
13:39
It isn't LTSP related, I don't think anyone here will be able to help you.
13:39
<coordinador>
thank you very much, alkisg , i will check it
13:42
<alkisg>
muppis: about the local firefox and the themes problem, I think the missing package is gnome-settings-daemon. E.g. if you try `killall gnome-settings-daemon` in a normal session, you'll lose the decorations and it will look like a localapps firefox.
13:43
Unfortunately, it depends on gconf, so I'm not sure if it will work. If you ever try to install it in the chroot, make a backup first.
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<coordinador>
what about if i restart avahi daemon? users will disconnect or some?
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<muppis>
alkisg, thanks for info about localapss firefox. I was doing other case past two weeks, so I haven't done nothing about this. I must try it at monday morning.
15:44
Not two weeks, this week only.
15:44
<alkisg>
muppis: ok, but I don't think it'll work because of gconf, so do keep a backup of /opt/ltsp before you try it
15:45
<muppis>
I try to remember that.
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