IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 20 December 2006   (all times are UTC)

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<str4nd_>
hmph...
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<str4nd_>
why my edgy install cd says: "BusyBox ... Cant access tty; job control turned of"
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04:46
<LokR>
hi everyone
04:46
I've got a problem with my lts.conf could someone help please :s
04:48
:(
04:48
isn't there anyone?
04:51
<sep>
LokR, you can't expect answers when you have not asked anything.
04:52
<LokR>
ok sep
04:53
my problem is that the [default] part of the lts.conf is used but not the machine-specific part
04:54
(I hope you understand me, my english is probably bad)
04:55
<sep>
LokR, so you give your hosts a static adders and hostname in dhcp, have a working and correct dns, and use the hostname in lts.conf ?
04:55
personaly i just use the mac address in lts.conf but i think that's only the the newer ltsp's
04:56
<LokR>
i use ltsp 4.1,, i didn't know that we could pass the mac address
04:56
<sep>
dont think you can there
04:56
not certain
04:56
<LokR>
whoops :(
04:57
in fact, I didn't setup this ltsp server, I just arrived in a place where I must improve a alrready made setup
04:57
sep, when i ping the machine name precised in lts.conf it works is that enough?
04:58
<sep>
LokR, hmm actualy i think you can try
04:58
<LokR>
ok i try with MAC address and come back after
04:58
anyway thank you for your answer
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<DivFMprepro>
great sep! it works
05:02
thank you
05:02
<killsalad>
hi all
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<DivFMprepro>
So, I'm going to continue working
05:02
hi killsalad
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<killsalad>
has anybody problem with xdmcp (gdm,LTSP-4.2u2) and ubuntu 6.10 ?
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<kgoetz>
if i build my ltsp chroot with --dist=edgy could i use the netboot-but-runs-local ltsp stuff?
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<muh2000>
error with XKB-config
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<muh2000>
keyboard etc is working... i dont know what that error should say to me...
07:16
thats the error: http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/4894/bildschirmfotope3.png
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<muh2000>
brb
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<DivFMprepro>
Hi everyone,
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07:45
<LokR>
I use nasd with ltsp and I can't record using audacity
07:46
would someone know how to help me? :p
07:51
ltsp 4.1
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<killsalad>
hi
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<LokR>
hi killsalad
07:53
can you help me?
07:53
<killsalad>
hm, let's see
07:53
<LokR>
I use nasd with ltsp and I can't record using audacity
07:53
:( I'm very sad bouhhh (ltsp 4.1)
07:54
<killsalad>
hm, try upgrade to LTSP-4.2
07:54
<LokR>
I can't do that.. my boss doesn't want it :s
07:55
<killsalad>
well i never used sound on terminals
07:55
so i can't help you
07:55
<LokR>
ok, thank you for your answer :)
07:56
<killsalad>
i've got big problem with my LTSP
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<LokR>
tell me maybe I could help you :p
07:57
<killsalad>
ok ubuntu 6.10 + LTSP-4.2
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and gdm do not accepts connections
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i've instaled kdm - but when users logs out on terminal
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<killsalad>
on server X is messing
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<killsalad>
ok gotta go bye
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<LokR>
whoups didn't have time to answer
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<cliebow_>
LokR:put 4.2 in paralle to 4.1
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<LokR>
in paralle? sorry I didn't understand
08:09
to run the two at the same time?
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<muh2000>
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<LokR>
hmmmm² muh2000 ?
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<muh2000>
LokR XKB error i got here...
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http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotope3.png
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<muh2000>
brb
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<DivFMprepro>
hello
09:16
did someone manage to have recording possible in audacity?
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
09:29
<cliebow__>
Scottie!!!!!!!!!
09:31
<sbalneav>
Morning cliebow
09:31
<cliebow__>
8~)
09:43
<moquist>
hiya
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<moquist>
is there a recommended way to get flash working with sound in Edubuntu Edgy? I see ( https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/29760 ) that edsdsp is not the recommended hack any longer...so what's the new recommended hack, specifically for an Edubuntu environment?
09:45
<mrlinux>
could not open location 'file:///media/thin1/cdrom'
09:45
unknown error code 2
09:46
moquist, what is your problem
09:46
<moquist>
er, "esddsp", not what I said.
09:46
mrlinux: no sound with flash.
09:46
mrlinux: Oddly enough, changing FIREFOX_DSP=esd in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc causes firefox to fail to start, citing numerous ALSA-related errors.
09:47
<mrlinux>
moquist, what sound card are you using
09:48
moquist, intergrated or pci
09:49
<moquist>
integrated, I assume. I doubt there are PCI cards in these TCs.
09:49
for mplayer, -ao esd works fine.
09:49
I need to double-check, but I assume the K12LTSP servers *are* using esddsp for Firefox, and I believe they work.
09:49* moquist goes to double-check
09:50
<mrlinux>
moquist, double check your driver. sometimes the wrong drivers load and can cause problems
09:51
moquist, flash does work right, or does flash just fail. so you are trying to fix by esd
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<mrlinux>
sbalneav, are you there
09:56
<sbalneav>
Yep, I'm here
09:58
<mrlinux>
sbalneav, i have an error that i confused on. could not open location 'file:///media/thin1/cdrom' unknown error code 2
09:58
<sbalneav>
Where have you gotten this error?
09:59
<mrlinux>
sbalneav, on my client machine trying to access their own cdrom
09:59
<sbalneav>
Is there a cdrom in the drive?
09:59
<mrlinux>
sbalneav, yes
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<sbalneav>
What happens if you take the cdrom out, and re-insert it?
10:00
<mrlinux>
sbalneav, so how is it in Manitoba
10:00
sbalneav, i'll check
10:02
sbalneav, no such luck let me try a different cd
10:03
<sbalneav>
Yeah, could be a duffy cdrom
10:03
<mrlinux>
sbalneav, the other cd works though
10:04
sbalneav, i goning to try the other cd
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<mrlinux>
sbalneav, it's just the cd thats messed
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<sbalneav>
Problem solved
10:09
<mrlinux>
sbalneav, thx i g2g neighbour i'll see you hear agian
10:09
sbalneav, right now i am right beneth alberta's Legal Aid office
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<efra>
Morning everybody
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<DivFMprepro>
bouhou I'm sad.. I still can't record with audacity :(
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<vykarian>
morning
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<DivFMprepro>
hi back
10:20
<vykarian>
hey sbalneav
10:20
fyi, the problem i was having yesterday
10:21
the rtl8139 series B and C don't accept 256 ROMs
10:21
<sbalneav>
Get that from the mailing list?
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<vykarian>
no, I subscribed right now.. it was due testing and found some minutes ago at the realtek proper website
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<DivFMprepro>
Does anyone know why I've got "PortAudio: read interrupted!" when I try to record usinf nasd in ltsp 4.1?
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<jammcq>
hey kids
10:54
<sbalneav>
Hey jammcq
10:55
<jammcq>
how's it goin, eh?
10:55
<sbalneav>
goin :)
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<cliebow_>
vykarian:i ve used 256 proms i think on b and c
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<vykarian>
cliebow_ I just couldn't :(
13:52
caught 3 different brands of EPROM
13:52
just caught a 27c512 and worked at first
13:52
my NIC babylon will drive me crazy yet
13:53
but no problem =]
13:53
mates, does someone know how I can map a LTS terminal printer to a windows box?
13:53
to map a windows - windows use net use \\ip.from.term\printer_share LTP1: (i.e.)
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<mrlinux>
i have a conflict when i try to boot
14:45
any help
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<sbalneav>
Ummm, could you be more specific?
14:46
You fight with someone when you try to boot?
14:47
When you boot, it starts a war?
14:47
help us out here :)
14:48
mrlinux: Hello! Could you be more specific?
14:48
<mrlinux>
ok i was using a dlink hub. i was forced to swich to a dlink switch
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<mrlinux>
now it wont work
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<sbalneav>
define "won't work", won't boot? boots, but won't log in?
14:50
<mrlinux>
with the switch it try's to use TFPT
14:50
<sbalneav>
Do you have link lights for the server and workstation?
14:50
<mrlinux>
yes the connection is there
14:51
<sbalneav>
Are you sure?
14:51
What's the ethernet port on the server? Eth0?
14:51
<mrlinux>
i get PXE-E35 TFTP Timeout and a PXE-E39 TFTP cannot read from connection
14:52
no eth1
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<sbalneav>
What happens when you do a "mii-tool eth1" on the server?
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<mrlinux>
SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth1' failed: Operation not permitted
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<sbalneav>
Did you do that as root?
14:53
<mrlinux>
no
14:53
<sbalneav>
CAN you do it as root?
14:53
<mrlinux>
ya
14:54
eth1: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
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wait one sec
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ok back
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i did a packet capture
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using wireshark
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so whats up
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<sbalneav>
Is this a smart switch?
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<mrlinux>
i dont know
15:01
it's a Dlink DSS-5+
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<mrlinux>
Unmanaged Layer 2 Switch with (5) 10/100BASE-TX Ports Desktop Switch
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<sbalneav>
ok
15:02
<mrlinux>
so how do i fix my problem
15:02
<sbalneav>
I have no idea, I'm still trying to debug it.
15:02
OK, so you're getting an IP address, right? It's the TFTP that's failing?
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What does "ifconfig eth1" say?
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<mrlinux>
yes i am getting an ip i get TFTP Timeout and TFTP cannot read from connection
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<sbalneav>
As well, what do you get for "netstat -an | grep :69"?
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<mrlinux>
do you mind if i paste it in
15:06
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:04:D9:59:4B
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inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
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inet6 addr: fe80::250:4ff:fed9:594b/64 Scope:Link
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UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
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RX packets:27568 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
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TX packets:64063 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
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<sbalneav>
No, it should only be a few lines,
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<mrlinux>
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
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RX bytes:3622232 (3.4 MiB) TX bytes:67520004 (64.3 MiB)
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Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe000
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<sbalneav>
k, that looks ok
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<mrlinux>
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*
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<vykarian>
use tcpdump at servers interface to see if u have traffic through this ports
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<sbalneav>
Try downing the interface, and re-upping it, just in case it's confused.
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ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1
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<mrlinux>
mrlinux@ThinSever:~$ ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1
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ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
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mrlinux@ThinSever:~$ sudo ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1
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ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
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mrlinux@ThinSever:~$ su
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Password:
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root@ThinSever:/home/mrlinux# ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1
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ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
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but i know eth1 is configured
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<sbalneav>
So, lets get this straight.
15:10
eth0 is connected to the internet, or backbone, or whatever, and eth1 is connected to the switch, which the terminals are connected to?
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<mrlinux>
yes
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<sbalneav>
Is eth1 assigned a static address?
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<mrlinux>
yes
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192.168.0.200
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<sbalneav>
What's the address of eth0?
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<mrlinux>
172.x.x.x
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<yanu>
sbalneav: i see a list of wm's to choose from in ldm-screen, how and where do i add one, ea. firefox
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<sbalneav>
mrlinux: You should change that to .254 for the address. You've set your static address in the middle of the dynamic pool range.
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<mrlinux>
ok
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<sbalneav>
yanu: you wouldn't do that.
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You'd create a custom .xsession for the user that just launches firefox
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and nothing else.
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<mrlinux>
sbalneav, ok
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<yanu>
sbalneav: ach, i made a .xinitrc that launches firefox, ok i'll try that
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<sbalneav>
mrlinux: reboot your client, should work.
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<mrlinux>
sbalneav, i have arp timeouts
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sbalneav, now
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sbalneav, and TFTP cant open connection
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<sbalneav>
So, how many wires are plugged into this switch?
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<mrlinux>
sbalneav, 4 2 are active
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<sbalneav>
Why 4?
15:17
Should only be 2
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the server's eth1, and your terminal.
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<mrlinux>
3 clients 1 server but only 1 client is active
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<sbalneav>
Have you rebooted the switch?
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i.e. unplugged and plugged it in?
15:18
<mrlinux>
in 2 seconds
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ok its rebooted
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<sbalneav>
Does the tftp work now?
15:20
<mrlinux>
nope it cannot open connection
15:20
the switch has a built in dhcp server am i right
15:21
<sbalneav>
if it's a SWITCH, no it shouldn't
15:21
if it's an INTERNET GATEWAY thing, then yes it will.
15:21
<mrlinux>
thats what i thought but my teacher told me it did
15:21
<sbalneav>
I can only go by what you tell me.
15:21
<mrlinux>
i know
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<sbalneav>
if you tell me it's a switch, then I have to beleive that.
15:22
<mrlinux>
i gave you the model name
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<sbalneav>
So, the network's supposedly there, based on ifconfig, and mii-tool
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<mrlinux>
it is there
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<sbalneav>
and according to netstat, tftp is listening becayse :69 shows up.
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<mrlinux>
it works when using a hub it works when using a crossover cable but it fails when using a switch
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<sbalneav>
So, all I can suggest is, try rebooting the server, just in case something's REALLY screwy in the server's network card. And if that doesn't work, you've got a physical wiring problem of some kind.
15:23
<mrlinux>
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=69
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<mrlinux>
i think that the switch might be off
15:24
not off but faluty
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<yanu>
hmm, damned, x is starting, i see firefox with top, but then a crash
15:25
<mrlinux>
because this is the first time using a switch all other times i have never even seen tftp before
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ok thanks for your help
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<sbalneav>
yanu:
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I just tested:
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#!/bin/bash
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firefox
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put that in a .xsession file
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chmod 755 .xsession in the users home dir
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<yanu>
permissions 755 ?
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<sbalneav>
and select "Default system session"
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when logging in
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<yanu>
ach, ok, i used /usr/bin/firefox &
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<sbalneav>
All you get is firefox then, no window manager.
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no, can't put it in the background.
15:30
<yanu>
moment, phone
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<sbalneav>
When .xsession ends, then the session's over/
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<yanu>
ok, ach that is the reason! bingo, it works, thx alot
15:45
<sbalneav>
No problem.
15:45
<yanu>
is there a place to put this documentation somewhere?
15:45
<sbalneav>
You could put it on the wiki, but really, if you'd have searched the LTSP mail archives, you would have found this has been done a hundred times already :)
15:46
There's nothing new under the sun :D
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<yanu>
ohh, where can i find that, letme look
15:47
http://ltsp.org/mailinglists.php
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<mrlinux>
sbalneav, ok
15:48
sbalneav, hi
15:48
<sbalneav>
hello
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<mrlinux>
sbalneav, now it says that there is no dhcp or bootp offers recived
15:49
sbalneav, but my dhcp service is running
15:49
<yanu>
sbalneav: ok , fount the archives, thx for showing me that, never looked that before, i only knew the wiki ;)
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<sbalneav>
If you put the hub back in, does it work?
15:50
<mrlinux>
yes
15:50
<sbalneav>
Then it's the switch.
15:50
<mrlinux>
i switched out the switch to a different switch
15:51
what is the command to stop and restart the service
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<sbalneav>
Which, dhcpd?
15:52
<mrlinux>
yes
15:52
<sbalneav>
invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
15:52
<mrlinux>
right
15:52
i forgot the invoke part
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mrlinux@ThinSever:~$ invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
15:53
dhcpd self-test failed. Please fix the config file.
15:53
The error was:
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drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted
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invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "restart" failed.
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<sbalneav>
You're not doing this as root, are you?
15:55
Any system type thing you usually need to do as root.
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<mrlinux>
sorry i'm really new to linux
15:59
i am used to being an admin
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i just have to get used to it
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<killsalad>
hi
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<bdole42>
Hi
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<Snerf>
anyone can provide any help/assistance to using rdesktop with ltsp.. trying to get a local floppy to work, but there is no /mnt/floppy or even /dev/fd0 .. is that disabled by default in ltsp ?
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<vagrantc>
Snerf: have you tried the mailing list?
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<Snerf>
no
18:10
<vagrantc>
i would try there, rather than keep repeating the same question over and over again :P
18:10
<bushboy>
Whats the issue?
18:10
Sorry just got here
18:10
<Snerf>
well, hey, i dont mind keeping asking here
18:10
<vagrantc>
floppy + rdesktop
18:10
<bushboy>
what?
18:11
good freaking luck
18:11
<Snerf>
thats what it seems, yes ;)
18:11
<vagrantc>
Snerf: well, if you actually want to get your problem solved, i would recommend asking more places...
18:11
<bushboy>
I'm not even sure that rdp supports local devices and I HIGHLY doubt any LTSP contributors have commited any time to it
18:12
besides thats not an LTSP issue
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<bushboy>
its an rdesktop issue
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<bushboy>
Snerf: seems you can do disk redirection according to the rdesktop man page
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<Snerf>
bushboy.. yes.. but I have no /dev/fdo
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<vagrantc>
Snerf: can you boot some sort of livecd, such as knoppix, and access the floppy drive from it?
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<Snerf>
yup
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<bushboy>
modprobe floppy
18:19
on the client
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<Snerf>
floppy works fine, if i go to ltsp and run shell as screen_01.. i can not access it
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<vagrantc>
Snerf: works fine in what?
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<Snerf>
in knoppix, booting on its own, bartpe.. etc
18:20
<bushboy>
snerf? you able to modprobe or insmod floppy
18:21
firing up a client now
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brb
18:21
<Snerf>
no i am not
18:21
<bushboy>
any error?
18:21
custom or stock ltsp kernel?
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<Snerf>
stock 4.2
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<bushboy>
2.6?
18:22
<Snerf>
yes
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Fedora
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<bushboy>
no no
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on the client side
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<Snerf>
oh.. yes :)
18:23
no changed made from the default ltsp install at all
18:23
<bushboy>
whats the error on modprobe floppy?
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<Snerf>
gah.. i gotta run.. i'll send a message in the mailing list.. thanks tho.
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<bushboy>
poor little snerf
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<cliebow>
REGGAE NIGHT!!!
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<rjune>
cliebow: LOL
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<cliebow>
wednesdaya nights are not to be missed!
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streamin on line at http://listen.weru.org/listen.pls
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<jammcq>
howdie
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<bushboy>
howdy jammcq
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<vagrantc>
heya sbalneav !
21:42
<sbalneav>
Evening vagrantc!!!
21:42* vagrantc is amazed at the "!" proliferation
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<sbalneav>
:)
21:44
Fixed printers today, trying to update in my bzr branch
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<sbalneav>
Now we're back to supporting 3 printers, instead of just one :)
21:44
<PMantis>
Hey guys
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: with lp_server ?
21:50
sbalneav: i think ogra has some new print server re-write in python...
21:50
<sbalneav>
lp_server's fine, it's in ltsp-client-setup
21:51
Oh, really?
21:51
<vagrantc>
lp_server was removed from debian due to unclear licensing.
21:51
<sbalneav>
Wait, this is the internet
21:51
O RLY?
21:51
<vagrantc>
and i've been too lazy to contact the author for clarification. especially if ogra's rewrite works goo.
21:51
good.
21:52
he said he tested it with a usb printer ...
21:52* jammcq hopes it also supports serial printers
21:52
<jammcq>
which are much more complex
21:53* vagrantc is clueless
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<dberkholz>
people still care about non-usb printers?
22:07
<jammcq>
people reclaiming old hardware, and people doing point-of-sale certainly do
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<vagrantc>
i think reciept printers often fall into that category
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<dberkholz>
hadn't thought of that
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