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Channel log from 29 July 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<rafaelfeito>
hi, about this topic... of course that exists a good integration with host system, but what about performance?with realy thin(old) clients, like 32MB ram?
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<lindi->
rafaelfeito: with VNC the ram should not be an issue :)
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<sahil>
what can you do with snmp and ltsp?
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<rafaelfeito>
I thought that new way for buld ltsp-5 tree is enougth for decreased perform specs
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<sahil>
does anyone use fl_teachertool?
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<rafaelfeito>
sahil, I've tried
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<sahil>
rafaelfeito: what were your issues?
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<nadav>
hi
03:06
how can i update the terminal's /opt/ltsp/i386 tree ?
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<rafaelfeito>
sahil: initially i had a trouble because depends on 'stablished' netstat's output that is different im my lang, after this was vnc. why?
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
09:04
<Q-FUNK>
heya Scott!
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<sbalneav>
Hello
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<sahil>
has anyone had any success with sis7019 audio under ltsp 4.2?
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09:37
<jammcq>
!s
09:37
<ltspbot`>
jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<BlackDark>
hi
09:39
a few days ago, I've asked some details in the chan about the terminal LTSP 1220 PXE, sold on disklessworkstation.com
09:39
jammcq, the folks told you were the guy to ask for details about that term
09:40
<jammcq>
whaddya want to know about it?
09:40
<BlackDark>
does it's sound board supported by ubuntu/ltsp5 ?
09:41
<jammcq>
umm, I'm pretty sure it is. It's a via chipset. actually, eTyack is the expert on that, but he's on vacation until friday. Ogra has a 1220 that he's tested with. Dunno if he's around today.
09:41
<BlackDark>
the specs sheet page doesn't give any details about the audio board
09:41
did you test those terms ?
09:42
<jammcq>
I personally didn't test audio, but others (ogra,etyack) have
09:42
<BlackDark>
I meant the term itself
09:42
<jammcq>
and ogra is THE guy behind LTSP-5 on ubuntu
09:42
yes, I've got a 1220 at my office that I've used
09:42
<BlackDark>
some folks told me that the CN700 video chipset is quite slow,
09:43
<jammcq>
I don't know anything about CN700
09:43
<BlackDark>
it;'s the video chipset in the 1220
09:43
<jammcq>
hmmm, ogra has claimed it's quite fast
09:43
it's a thin client..... what are you trying to do?
09:43
I've got to run for about 15 minutes
09:43
(wife's calling me)
09:43
<BlackDark>
actually I want to get 2 terms for our desks at home
09:44
and from the terms
09:44
all two on the same machine
09:44
np
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
i have problem
10:53
please help me
11:09
<Quazion>
with what ?
11:15
<m_pahlevanzadeh>
I must retrive files with ltspadmin
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but i don't know how address?
11:17
Quazaion, I don't know to where i retrieve that files from ltspadmin
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<Quazion>
Sorry, no idea, but if you wait someone else might..
11:44
<sahil>
m_pahlevanzadeh: http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.2/ could that be what you are looking for?
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<m_pahlevanzadeh>
sahil, ty .my problem was solved.
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<sahil>
p
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<BlackDark>
brb
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<lindi->
Q-FUNK: now when i finally upgrade to etch i noticed that my /home does not get mounted on bootup anymore ;) i guess it has something to do with etch mounting nfs filesystems only when network interface goes up (/etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs). in my case the interface is up for the whole lifetime of the userland so maybe i just need some mount -a in rc.local :P
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<Q-FUNK>
odd
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<lindi->
Q-FUNK: but note that i'm still using my own initrd-less kernel
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Q-FUNK: now managed to boot normal linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 over network :) still no /home thought but it should be easy to investigate by adding some set -x to the scripts
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<Q-FUNK>
fstab ?
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<lindi->
Q-FUNK: a mess but /home should be there correctly: http://rafb.net/p/L98sAT60.html
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and now away to eat something...
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<lindi->
Q-FUNK: any idea what part _should_ mount /home in etch?
15:06
Q-FUNK: i mean, what init.d script
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<Q-FUNK>
mountnfs.sh
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<lindi->
Q-FUNK: but it says "Network file systems are mounted by /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs in the background when interfaces are brought up; this script waits for them to be mounted before carrying on."
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<Q-FUNK>
ah
15:30
is the symlink there?
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<lindi->
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3726 Nov 26 2006 /home/tftpboot/dandelion/etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs
15:31
<Q-FUNK>
hm
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<lindi->
anyway, i'll insert some debugging prints
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<lindi->
Q-FUNK: echo ASYNCMOUNTNFS=no >> /etc/default/rcS helped
15:43
<Q-FUNK>
ah
15:43
interesting
15:43
lacking portmap in the chroot, maybe?
15:44
<lindi->
Q-FUNK: portmap seems to be happily running
15:45
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=433133
15:45
"Since the upgrade from 1:1.1.0-6, my system no longer mounts an NFS volume listed in my /etc/fstab during system boot"
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<Q-FUNK>
lindi-: ouch. messy one.
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<lindi->
yep
15:50
anyways, my "xdm starts fullscreen vnc viewer via ~/.xsession" setup seems to work well
15:51
normal user will think he's logging to a local computer and will just be amazed about how the applications survive reboot :P
15:53
<Q-FUNK>
nice trick
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<indradg>
hi... i've a question about rebuilding LTSP 4.2 using the LBE
15:57
the LBE asks for gcc-3.x.. how does one do it on a system (say Fedora7)
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<indradg>
hi... i've a question about rebuilding LTSP 4.2 using the LBE
15:59
the LBE asks for gcc-3.x.. how does one do it on a system (say Fedora7)
15:59
<sbalneav>
indradg: No idea, no one's really maintaining LBE anymore.
15:59
<indradg>
sbalneav, i c
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<sbalneav>
What is it you need the lbe for?
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<indradg>
sbalneav, not much... i wanted to recompile the kernel and add a bootsplash to it... tried to follow the LTSP 4.2 instructions and hit the road block
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<sbalneav>
Afternoon cliebow
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<indradg>
sbalneav, i tried to google for it... but didn't come up with anything
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<sbalneav>
Highly likely, no work's been done on maintaining ltsp 4.2 for probably a year and a few months.
16:07
<indradg>
ok
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<cliebow>
sbalneav:Howdy!!!
16:09
indradg, wazzup?
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<indradg>
cliebow, i tried to build LTSP 4.2's LBE on Fedora 7 and miserably failed
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cliebow, was thinking of rebuilding the kernel and adding bootsplash to that
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<cliebow>
i see..must be missing some packages in the lbe?
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<indradg>
cliebow, complained about gcc... saying it must be 3.x
16:12
IIRC 3.4
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<cliebow>
ahh yes..i remember jammcq saying that you can install both 3.4 and 4 in same distro..
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but i thought he hsd that fixed..
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i had to export cc=3.something...then change it bacjk the first time
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<indradg>
cliebow, ok
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<cliebow>
it was so long ago...
16:18
you looked the wiki over?
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<indradg>
cliebow, yes... i tried to follow the example given here -> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Build-LTSP-42
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<cliebow>
did you catch jammcq?he might remember..though sbalneav was in the thick of it too..
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<indradg>
cliebow, not yet! didn't really know who to ask :P
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<cliebow>
those two..
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<cliebow>
hmmm.you needed 3.4 for to build thelbe..after installing 3.4 export cc=3.4..after the build env is created you had to switch cc to the cc within the lbe..
17:37
whic h was 3.2?
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