IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 10 January 2020   (all times are UTC)

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14:03
<douglas_br>
hello
14:08
I have linux mint ltsp server, now it ups but do not accept login and password in client side
14:16
<||cw>
douglas_br: which ltsp version/guide are you using?
14:17
<douglas_br>
from official site ltsp
14:17
linux mint 19.3 64 bits
14:18
https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/
14:19
pnp mode, 2 NICs
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<||cw>
there's probably changes you'll need to make on mint's configs, I'd suggest installing on ubuntu and getting familiar with it first, then trying to make it work on mint
14:20
you can install Cinnamon and MATE on ubuntu if that's why you're using mint
14:24
<douglas_br>
Humm right! I would like use MInt because the good and nice visual. I think get ubuntu mate to test it
14:27
Mint is not good choice to use in ltsp?
14:27
<mwalters>
haven't heard of anyone using ltsp w/ Mint, so you're venturing into the unknown
14:28
seems like most folks use debian and ubuntu, which is what development seems to primarily target
14:29
<douglas_br>
oh, right
14:29
<||cw>
douglas_br: ltsp is very dependent on specific configs, if a distro does something different it has to be handled. I'm sure pull requests to add mint support would be welcome, it's just not where development effort is being spent currently
14:32
<douglas_br>
right ||cw
14:38
right! I will download ubuntu mate and test. at finish 2019 we make ltsp lab with french distro voyager and works nice. maybe I use the same
14:48
thanks for help (y) (y)
15:44
<alkisg>
douglas_br: the new ltsp doesn't care much about distributions and configs, it should work fine on mint
15:45
Can you login if you switch to vt1, with ctrl+alt+f1?
15:46
Personally I've tested with a "tara-cinnamon" vm that I have as an ltsp client, I'm not sure how recent that one is
15:48
That I/O error that you see in the screenshot could be related to networking issues
15:48
Do you have epoptes installed?
16:09
<douglas_br>
alkisg sorry I was out. The version of my Mint is tricia (last version) with mate
16:09
yes I have epoptes
16:10
<alkisg>
douglas_br: let's do a quick vnc if you want, as I don't have a lot of time...
16:10
!vnc-edide
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<ltspbot>
vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
16:10
<alkisg>
Do this ^ from the server...
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<douglas_br2>
epopets open but not find the vnc conmection
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<alkisg>
Try this: x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
16:17
douglas_br2, you have segfaults on the server, due to your realtek inic
16:17
nic
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That's why the client doesn't work and shows I/O errors and disconnects from epoptes
16:18
As a test, try to exchange the two NICs, put the atheros one to face the ltsp clients, and put the 192.168.67.1 IP to the atheros etc
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<douglas_br2>
right
16:20
thanks so much
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<douglas_br2>
alkisg not works
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<alkisg>
Does it have power? Is the screen turned on? :D
16:35
Doesn't work ... doesn't describe the problem :)
16:35
Did the client boot, and did it get the same errors?
16:36
<douglas_br2>
sorry, client boot now and before but users can not login
16:36
<alkisg>
Do you see the client in epoptes?
16:37
<douglas_br2>
no, only the screen login at my side from client
16:37
<alkisg>
Do a VNC to me again
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x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
16:40
douglas_br2, remember that mint is a broken distribution; whenever you need to install software, use "--install-recommends"
16:41
Now you installed epoptes without recommends, so without epoptes-client
16:41
Let's wait until ltsp image finishes now, then reboot the client
16:41
<douglas_br2>
yeah
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<alkisg>
douglas_br2, OK reboot the client
16:46
<douglas_br2>
ok
16:50
<alkisg>
douglas_br2, the same problem again
16:50
You installed ltsp without recommends, so you didn't have sshfs
16:50
I hope that's the only one still missing...
16:51
It would be better to uninstall all these packages, then install them again with --install-recommends
16:51
Mint is really broken in that part
16:51
<douglas_br2>
or switch
16:52
other distro
16:52
<alkisg>
I told you my opinion about Mint many times in the past, but you keep trying it ;)
16:52
The best distributions are those that have 100+ developers
16:52
I.e. Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOS...
16:52
<douglas_br2>
you right
16:54
alkisg to you no lost time let choice another distro ubuntu
16:54
<alkisg>
Whatever you like; when ltsp image finishes, reboot the client, it might just work
16:55
Or just go ahead and delete mint... whatever you like
16:56
<douglas_br2>
let see
16:59
now works
17:00
<alkisg>
Yeah afaik mint just needs the --install-recommends when installing programs
17:00
It's broken in various other parts, but it shouldn't have ltsp-specific issues
17:01
<douglas_br2>
can be not secure for proffisional use day
17:02
<alkisg>
I think it does have some security issues, like not allowing kernel updates even for known CVEs, yeah
17:02
They only allow kernel updates when they think so, even if those are ubuntu kernels by ubuntu developers
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It's a very messy and hackish distribution
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<douglas_br2>
humm okay alkisg in this case mint not good option thank you for help ever
17:07
<alkisg>
douglas_br2, all those small distributions that you're trying are usually worse than even mint
17:07
If you really care more about security etc than the wallpapers, then select a big distro, not the small ones
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<douglas_br2>
yes, you are right, I will download ubuntu mate and start a new install
17:13
ohhhh can be ubuntu mate
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<douglas_br>
ok
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<dgroos>
And hi again. Still tracking down the problem that students can't do google searches with google chrome. It happened a couple times today on Firefox, too.
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<dgroos>
However, I can go to a webpage directly, no problem.
20:40
Following up on @vagrantc's idea that maybe there was some bad interaction between multiple dns servers
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<dgroos>
I thought I could test this by only using 1 dns server at a time. Network manager says I've got the district dns server (10.x.x.x) and 8.8.8.8
20:42
But in the ipv4 settings of network manager I've not set 8.8.8.8 in either of the 2 NICs
20:43
On /usr/share/ltsp/server/dnsmasq/ltsp-dnsmasq.conf it has: dhcp-option=option:dns-server,0.0.0.0,8.8.8.8,208.67.222.222
20:44
but... I don't have the 208... show in nm. Not sure where to go to try eliminating 8.8.8.8 (and maybe 208... and 10...) Ideas?
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<alkisg>
dgroos: network manager says that for the server; dnsmasq.conf is for the clients, not the server
20:58
`sudo ltsp dnsmasq --dns-server=10.x.x.x` should do it
20:58
<dgroos>
@alkisg, OK, then I'll just put the 1 dns there at a time, I can do that :-) I guess I don't run service restart networking then.
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<alkisg>
After running ltsp dnsmasq, reboot the clients
20:59
If you manually edit the file, you'd need to restart dnsmasq on the server
20:59
If you run ltsp dnsmasq, it's done automatically
21:00
<dgroos>
One of those treats built into ltsp :-) , thanks @alkisg , I'll get back...
21:04
(ummm... i don't use the single quotes, right?)
21:05
<alkisg>
It's the same with or without them
21:05* alkisg needs to go; ciao for now...
21:06
<dgroos>
thanks @alkisg bye
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