IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 28 August 2013   (all times are UTC)

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10:09
<muppis>
Wish me luck. I just bought Raspberry Pi and decided make it my LTSP client at home. Just got tired having too many powerful machines just about for nothing.
10:12
<Hyperbyte>
Good luck!
10:12
You should write up a nice howto on the LTSP wiki once you have it working. :)
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10:12
<muppis>
Thanks for reminding. I should write it for my work as well.
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10:20
<Q-FUNK>
howdy! I'm on Debian and I keep on getting this message from NFS:
10:20
Aug 28 13:14:51 voito rpc.mountd[5335]: refused mount request from 10.10.10.2 for /opt/ltsp/i386 (/opt/ltsp/i386): unmatched host
10:23
<muppis>
What are lines in /etc/exports ?
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10:37
<Q-FUNK>
/opt/ltsp 10.10.10.*(ro,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check)
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10:38
<Q-FUNK>
muppis: does that make sense?
10:40
<Hyperbyte>
Q-FUNK, you want 10.10.10.0/24
10:41
Instead of 10.10.10.*
10:43
Using wildcards in IP addresses is not valid and generally not accepted.
10:46
<Q-FUNK>
Hyperbyte: it's the old notation, but ok. trying with the new one. :)
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13:44
<Q-FUNK>
howdy! is sound to clients supposed to work out of the box nowadays?
13:47
<ogra_>
since 4 years :)
13:48
(or even five)
13:52
<Q-FUNK>
doesn't here.
13:53
as soon as I touch the gnome-volume-applet, it crashes. regardless sound doesn't work on the remote,
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<vagrantc>
q-funk: sound has had some bugs with recent versions...
14:22
of course, a bit too late...
14:27
<muppis>
First drawback. I don't have USB keyboard. :)
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14:42
<Hyperbyte>
muppis, attach a touchscreen and use an on-screen keyboard.
14:43
<muppis>
Hyperbyte, I don't have that either..
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14:48
<Zaphoid>
Is it possible to have an LTSP going on a different OS then it is offering? For example, clients useing Ubuntu, but the host is a CentOS system.
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<||cw>
Zaphoid: it's possible, but can be a pain
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14:56
<Zaphoid>
||cw: I guess my question there would be "how much of a pain". I'm hoping to setup a 60 station LTSP install in a couple of months, and prefer to use my existing CentOS infrastructure, but with the more user friendly/updated Linux Mint clients.
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<Zaphoid>
I COULD use a Ubuntu/Mint LTSP host, but that would require additional steps.
14:58
<vagrantc>
why linux mint on the clients? you'd have to write that yourself?
14:58
though it shouldn't be too hard
14:59
<Zaphoid>
Mint as opposed to CentOS6?
14:59
Or Mint as opposed to Ubuntu?
14:59
<vagrantc>
mint, as opposed to an OS that supports LTSP...
14:59
such as ubuntu
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<Zaphoid>
Mint 13 Ubuntu does work out of the box, just not with the right Windows Manager and UI (working on that right now)
15:00
But Mint 13 also because it tends to be more user friendly, that is to say "Windows user friendly" then the standard Ubuntu install
15:02
But, honestly, I'm more of a RedHat guy myself, so the whole Debian/Ubuntu land is a bit new to me and the small differences are taking time to get used to. I could be making assumptions I shouldn't be.
15:03
<vagrantc>
well, if you're using CentOS as your server, te user will be exposed to the CentOS desktop anyways...
15:04
unless you're doing fat clients
15:05
mint 13 LTSP works out of the box?
15:05
<Zaphoid>
I am, at this time, fat clients
15:05
Well
15:05
I guess not RIGHT out of the box, had to make a couple links and use --dist=precise
15:06
But all the Ubuntu LTSP stuff is in there.
15:06
<vagrantc>
i've heard a lot of people having difficulty setting it up, and there's not one line of code committed upstream to LTSP for Mint
15:06
<Zaphoid>
So the desktop I'm exposing at this time, through the fat clients, looks like Ubuntu
15:06
<vagrantc>
right
15:06
<Zaphoid>
Which I'm working at solving right now.
15:06
<vagrantc>
becuase it essentially is ubuntu...
15:06
<Zaphoid>
Yes
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15:07
<vagrantc>
bennabiy has been working on Mint support a bit that could go upstream to avoid the ugly workarounds
15:08
<Zaphoid>
Interesting. That could help me out quite a bit. How far along is it, and what version of Mint is it for?
15:08
I'm hoping to stick to the longterm stable release.
15:08
<vagrantc>
dunno how that's coming, but it shouldn't be oo hard since it's only a little divergent from ubuntu
15:09
at least as fa as ltsp is concerned
15:09
<Zaphoid>
Yeah. All the basic OS stuff is the same.
15:09
<vagrantc>
anyways, gotta head out. good luck!
15:09* vagrantc waves
15:09
<Zaphoid>
Thanks a lot.
15:09
Have a good one
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20:56
<Zaphoid>
Trying to get auto-login working through editing the lts.conf under the tftpboot side of things, and it seems to be having no effect at all.
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<tfdl>
I followed instruction on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall#Comments_and_hints and section "Installing on top of an already running desktop system" to install LTSP but when PXE boot I do not get a response from the server, can you please help?
21:09
or can you please give me pointer to where i can find more info to move on ...
21:14
<alkisg>
Zaphoid: give more details, distro, version, location and contents of lts.conf
21:15
tfdl: check your dhcpd and tftpd configuration... for example,
21:15
!tftp
21:15
<ltsp>
tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
21:15
<tfdl>
thanks alkisg
21:24
distro: ubuntu 12.04.3, location: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
21:25
content of lts.conf
21:25
dung@dung-ubuntu:/opt/ltsp/i386/etc$ more lts.conf # This is the default lts.conf file for ltsp 5. # For more information about valid options please see: # /usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz # in the client environment. # # Note that things like sound and local device support are # auto-enabled if the corresponding packages are installed, # there is no need to manually set these options anymore. # # **** THIS FIL
21:26
# **** THIS FILE SHOULD NO LONGER BE USED FROM HERE !!! **** # # With the introduction of the nbd/unionfs/squashfs structure # the lts.conf file moved to the tftp root please create: # /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf instead for your changes # # In case you want to use the lts.conf here, this still works, # but you need to run ltsp-update-image after every change. [example] key=value
21:27
we are the university of Calgary and our dhcp server is existing and not on the same LTSP server
21:28
i am looking at the help link you gave, thanks!
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21:42
<tfdl>
hi PhoenixSTF, do you know if there is an gui that i can use for LTSP server?
21:43
<PhoenixSTF>
no but there is a webui
21:43
<tfdl>
i used openthinclient before and PXE register the thinclients to the server, with the gui i can see things better.
21:44
<PhoenixSTF>
ltsp-cluster has a web interface for configuration and management
21:44
that I know of
21:44
<tfdl>
very helpful info.
21:46
i will dig, but by any chance you know why my LTSP clients fail PXE booting?
21:46
i gave alkisg info above.
21:46
I confirm the LTSP server is running
21:47
i confirm the tftpd-hpa is running
21:47
<PhoenixSTF>
you can have many problems, dhcp next server not configured
21:47
you do need to tell dhcp server who has the PXE boot
21:48
<tfdl>
very good suggestion, but i am using dhcp server from our university of Calgary
21:48
this is existing server, and we are from a library
21:49
this server support PXE boot in openthinclient
21:49
<alkisg>
!proxydhcp
21:49
<ltsp>
proxydhcp: A proxy DHCP server is defined by the PXE specification as a server which sends auxiliary boot information to clients, like the boot filename, tftp server or rootpath, but leaves the task of IP leasing to the normal DHCP server. More info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
21:49
<tfdl>
openthinclient also uses Ubuntu for its client OS
21:50
<PhoenixSTF>
kernel architecture???
21:52
<tfdl>
distro: ubuntu 12.04.3
21:53
32bit
21:53
i confirm tftp files are there
21:54
<PhoenixSTF>
sorry m8 dont know...
21:55
<tfdl>
thanks though!
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