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Channel log from 20 December 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<gnunux>
hi
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<muppis>
Is there remote reboot thin? (My brains are still in sickleave..)
02:41
<alkisg>
By default no, but there are ways to enable that
02:41
If the user is logged in, you can reboot it though, yes
02:41
<muppis>
How is that done?
02:43
<alkisg>
It needs 4-5 commands, to get the user session, set an xprop and call gnome logout...
02:43
<muppis>
Ah.. Now I recall. Well, I send email to customer and requst it to do locally.
02:44
<alkisg>
What exactly do you need? To be able to reboot any pc at any given time?
02:44
If it's just for once, yeah that'd be faster :)
02:45
<muppis>
I mistyped mac in dhcpd.conf and it didn't get correct IP, so cannot install printer.. :D
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<muppis>
Nice one. How I managed two mistypes for mac in dhcpd.conf..
06:18* Hyperbyte smacks muppis
06:18
<Hyperbyte>
How could you!
06:18
<muppis>
Shame on me.
06:18
<Hyperbyte>
:)
06:19
Though, you could twist it around and say mac address needs to be changed. ;-)
06:19
That'd be the American way of covering up mistakes. ;-)
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<muppis>
Heh.. Well, I can say I made mistake, even that American way makes more chargeable.
06:23
<Hyperbyte>
I was being sarcastic. :)
06:23
<muppis>
I noticed. :)
06:23
<Hyperbyte>
Thought that with all the going-ons with WikiLeaks I could throw in a little joke there.
06:23
Hehe
06:24
<muppis>
:D
06:31
Ah.. My life got easier. I struggled with dhpcd and pxe home. Somehow my wlan router, which I used for dhcpd and firewall etc, didn't manage well if dhcpd was elsewhere in lan. Switched it to dd-wrt based wlan router and it uses DNSMasq for dhcpd and dns.. :)
06:31
at home..
06:32
<alkisg>
!xauthority
06:32
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "xauthority" :: to access the client X session from a local root shell, try: eval $(tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$(pidof -s ldm gdm-simple-greeter gnome-session | cut -d' ' -f1)/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY=') && export DISPLAY XAUTHORITY
06:33
<muppis>
alkisg, copypasting?
06:33
<alkisg>
Yup :)
06:33
<muppis>
:)
06:34
<alkisg>
ltspbot is very handy
06:34
<ltspbot>
alkisg: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
06:36
<muppis>
Looks like it.
06:38
Oh my.. Upgrading servers has took all afternoon.. Freak.
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<muppis>
16 so far, still 8 to go.
06:59
<Hyperbyte>
:)
06:59
Looks we're somewhat in the same barrel today muppis. :P
06:59* Hyperbyte is installing a new server
06:59
<muppis>
:D
07:22
<Hyperbyte>
Heh... the server I was working on accidentally did a PXE boot... which leads to LTSP on the network
07:23
Server Opteron processor, raid harddisks...
07:23
It froze while loading LTSP. :O
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<highvoltage>
good morning everyone
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<robehend1>
mornin
08:37
does Rdesktop support the Network Authentication Protocol MS put into Win server 2008?
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<ninou>
hi
09:46
i upgrade my ltsp server to ubuntu 10.04 but it does not work on my old gx260 dell. The Xserver always restart, i try to log in console ctrl-alt-f1, but i can not work because the x server always try to restart. how can i stop it.
09:47
<alkisg>
What graphics card does it have?
09:47
!SCREEN_02
09:47
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "SCREEN_02" :: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN
09:47
<ninou>
Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
09:47
<alkisg>
Ouch
09:48
When 10.04 was released I had to use a kernel from a ppa to use my 82855
09:49
If the situation hasn't changed, and 845 is similar to 855, then you're into problems :(
09:49
I think in maverick they're using fb instead of intel drivers for those cards
09:50
<ninou>
so i have to downgrade to ubuntu 8.04, because it works in this version
09:50
<alkisg>
No, better upgrade to 10.10
09:50
Wait I'll give you a link with some things to try
09:50
<ninou>
thanks
09:51
<alkisg>
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
09:51
There are some notes there that say to try nomodeset etc
09:51
You can try those in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
09:52
<ninou>
ok i try
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<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
10:11
<komunista>
alkisg: hi
10:11
alkisg: I get crash today from FF
10:12
in on image (by on client), I try to get some info, but when I try reproduce this 5x, only one crash happen
10:13
but while it, I see growing the amount of the used RAM, but not the buffers and cache
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<alkisg>
komunista: right, pixmaps are not in cache
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<komunista>
alkisg: but why I cannot reproduce it?
10:28
<alkisg>
No idea, are you visiting the same site?
10:31
<komunista>
the same image
10:32
on the same site :-)
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<knipwim>
anyone experience with a hp t5710 and ltsp?
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<Appiah>
yupp
11:43
<knipwim>
succesfull?
11:45
<Appiah>
sure
11:45
why not? :)
11:45
they have very little ram
11:45
but they work
11:46
<alkisg>
I think "nomodeset" is needed in pxelinux.cfg/default for their ati cards to work ok...
11:47
<knipwim>
i was wondering about the soundcard
11:47
apparently the intel8x0 driver is used
11:47
<Appiah>
alkisg: I have not touched the pxelinux.cfg/default
11:47
<knipwim>
but i saw little successtories in the web
11:47
<Appiah>
what dist and version?
11:47
knipwim: where?
11:48
<knipwim>
gentoo on ltsp5.2.5
11:48
<Appiah>
I have not used gentoo for a long time
11:48
<knipwim>
thinking of buying one
11:48
<Appiah>
but sound works wihout anything extra needed on ubuntu
11:48
<knipwim>
gentoo shouldn't be a problem
11:48
<Appiah>
buying a T5710?? Can you still find one?
11:49
<knipwim>
secondhand
11:49
<Appiah>
ah
11:49
<knipwim>
100 euros
11:49
or am i being ripped off then :)
11:49
<Appiah>
well I've seen T5710 work
11:49
My first customer who I helped with LTSP was a school that mostly had those
11:49
still works
11:50
<alkisg>
Ah sorry I didn't remember correctly, the problem with t5710 that a user had was "inverted screen" (because of nvidia drivers on the server), solved by disabling compiz.
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<coordinador>
hi
11:50
help pĺease! i have 20mins to fix it!!!
11:50
<Appiah>
19:50
11:50
<coordinador>
i got "mounting /dev/nbd0 on /rofs failed: invalid argument"
11:50
and many similar errors while booting
11:51
<Appiah>
Dist coordinador ?
11:51
<coordinador>
(the boxes)
11:51
ubuntu 10.04
11:51
<Appiah>
new install?
11:51
<coordinador>
updating from 9.10
11:51
worked fine
11:51
<alkisg>
When/how did it break?
11:51
<knipwim>
Appiah: thanks, definitely buying one
11:51
<coordinador>
updating from 9.10
11:51
<alkisg>
Ah, it worked in 9.10, but it never worked in 10.04?
11:52
<coordinador>
after reboot server, i got this errors
11:52
<alkisg>
Did you rebuild the chroot?
11:52
I.e. did you run ltsp-build-client after the update?
11:52
<coordinador>
alkisg, im afraid of do that because i installed many localapps
11:52
<alkisg>
Urm. So you want to use 9.10 on the chroot but 10.04 in the server, and solve the problem in 20' ?
11:52
<coordinador>
last error says "no init found. Try passing init= bootarg."
11:53
<alkisg>
(17'... :))
11:53
<coordinador>
and finally i got a busybox prompt
11:53
<alkisg>
Can you try this in the busybox prompt? nbd-client 1.2.3.4 2000 /dev/nbd0
11:53
(server ip there)
11:53
<coordinador>
in 1.2.3.4 goes server ip?
11:54
<alkisg>
yup
11:54
<coordinador>
ok
11:55
i got many lines saying "nbd0: Attempted send on closed socket"
11:55
and "end_request: I/0 error, dev nbd0, sector 0
11:55
<alkisg>
Hmmm is your server listening on 2000?
11:55
grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
11:56
<coordinador>
2000 stream tcp nowait...
11:56
9572 stream tcp nowait..
11:56
only two lines
11:56
<alkisg>
grep nbd /var/log/daemon.log
11:56
Dec 20 14:32:44 alkis nbd_server[5775]: connect from 10.160.31.16, assigned file is /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
11:56
<coordinador>
i got many many lines
11:57
<alkisg>
Do you see something like the above line? ^
11:57
<coordinador>
yes. like 10 lines similar
11:57
<alkisg>
And any reason for disconnect?
11:57
<coordinador>
Dec 20 14:55:01 clases nbd_server[2051]: connect from 192.168.0.37, assigned file is /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
11:57
<alkisg>
Paastebin the last lines there, that show the connection you just tried from busybox
11:58
Or paste them here if they are a few...
11:58
<coordinador>
last line says: Read failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
11:58
and the previous line says: Size of exported file/device is 857636864
11:59
<alkisg>
Hmmm the nbd client versions are different in 9.10 from 10.04...
12:00
<coordinador>
what about if i just rebuild /opt/ltsp/i386 directory?
12:00
<alkisg>
I hope nothing serious changed between them
12:00
That's what ltsp-build-client does, and you lose all your localapps
12:00
<coordinador>
ok dont care its kind of urgent
12:00
lusers will use few progs xD
12:00
<alkisg>
It takes more than 11 minutes :)
12:00
<coordinador>
:O
12:00
<alkisg>
sudo mv /opt/ltsp /opt/ltsp-9.10
12:00
sudo ltsp-build-client
12:00
...and wait until it completes :)
12:00
<coordinador>
:) thank you very much, i will do now
12:00
doing it...
12:01
omg im doing it :S:S
12:01
omg im so scared, people is starting to comig
12:02
*coming
12:02
<alkisg>
Timed on a 2 mbps adsl line, it took 20 minutes
12:02
<coordinador>
i have like 10mbps (in theory)
12:02
<alkisg>
Cross your fingers :)
12:02
<coordinador>
ill use only little words to chat, so i use less broadband
12:03
lol
12:03
<alkisg>
hhehe
12:03
<coordinador>
so after that it should work?
12:03
<alkisg>
Well it's supposed to, but you know, problems happen, especially when you don't want them :)
12:06
<coordinador>
omg it goes at "libslang2"
12:06
,X,,
12:06
this is a classroom in a train
12:06
everyday train comes here, to a poor population without economical resources, and at 19.00 the train goes back
12:07
"retrieving perl"
12:07
still waiting...
12:08
Specifically, which is the cause of this error?
12:08
(the error that i had, related to nbd)
12:10
<alkisg>
No idea, I'm suspecting nbd-server/nbd-client version mismatch, but I don't think it's too likely..
12:11
<coordinador>
ok thank you
12:12
<alkisg>
You chose a bad time to upgrade, with little time to fix possible problems :)
12:15
<coordinador>
im so afraid now because people is sitting in their chairs andomg still unpacking im about to crying
12:16
after this command , do i have to use another?
12:16
like ltsp update kernerls or some?
12:17
<alkisg>
No
12:17
When it finishes you supposedly just boot the pcs
12:17
<coordinador>
alkisg, ok thank you very much! omg started to download more things :S
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<coordinador>
alkisg, what does it mean: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Passthrough
12:27
debconf: (Failed to open fd 3: Bad file descriptor at (eval 24) line 3)
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<coordinador>
ok, anybody :P?
12:33
OMFG IT WORKS!!
12:34
Thank you everybody
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<robehend1>
note to self: when your school closes for bad weather, go home with the kids. Guess its a good thing I brought that cot in last year
13:50
Gadi: That ltsp_remoteapps is amazing. It's working great. Thanks for your help on that.
13:51
<highvoltage>
mgariepy: ^^^ :)
13:56
<Pweg>
robehend1: you've got bad weather too?
13:57
<robehend1>
Pweg: expecting 10 inchs of snow
13:58
<Pweg>
reobehend1: yikes, we're facing flood weather here.
13:58
<robehend1>
i'll take snow over floods anyday
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<Pweg>
no doubt
14:00* highvoltage could do with a nice thunderstorm
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<robehend1>
say random question. anyone know of a decent software to join 20 odd .wmv files into one, so i can upload it to youtube?
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<abeehc>
i woudl guess ffmpeg might
14:18
<robehend1>
hmm illl give that a try. I'm just throwing them into PiTiVi right now, and exporting em as a project. I have no clue what format it will do that in though
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<highvoltage>
vagrantc: "live well" sounds like a shortened version of "live long and prosper" :)
15:04
<abeehc>
also possibly a fishing term
15:07
<vagrantc>
highvoltage: you're not the first person to infer that :)
15:08
though to me it's just plain english
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<vagrantc>
yay. i finally figured out a workaround for LXDE shutdown/reboot problems introduced in debian squeeze
17:17
for some reason, it requires hal to be installed
17:17
and then the LTSP shutdown works!
17:18
so LXDE is still the only environment that properly supports LTSP shutdown/reboot for thin clients :)
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