IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 21 April 2018   (all times are UTC)

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<crying>
Hello im a frustrated linux new user
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i was about to throw away a very old computer
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but then, i thought, maybe i can make this machine work put games on it and give it to a poor kid
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sorry, i apologize
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<vdflyingkiwi_>
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<Willtech>
Good evening all,
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Am looking for a practical way to setup LTSP with Fedora, the linked Fedora/K12linux project looks dead - I can only find the actual page in Google cache and it looks like it is last modified in 2008.
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<alkisg>
Willtech: there are no recent public ltsp packages for fedora
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bcg is maintaining ltsp for redhat, but I don't think he put them anywhere public yet
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If you can use a deb-based distro like Debian or Ubuntu, it would be a lot easier
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<Willtech>
alkisg: Hmm. I saw previously that there was a ltsp-client package available but no ltsp-server. In Fedora 27 there is three packages availabl: ltspfs, ltspfsd, vnc-ltsp-config - each of which are addons.
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I can build from source if there are documents covering dependencies/make/install/configure/use?
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<alkisg>
Unfortunately `make install` isn't as good as it should
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So most distro maintainers had their own installation scripts
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So you'd mostly need to be able to create your own packages, unless bcg can share his
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<Willtech>
Does the autogen.sh in the project root work? It call another that executes `aclocal && autoconf && automake -a -c`?
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<alkisg>
As I said, it's not as good as it should
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<Willtech>
Hmm
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<alkisg>
It will do a few of the necessary things, and then you'll need to copy the results around in your file system
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Because that part is handled by the packaging
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<Willtech>
Yes, but what where? The project could certainly do to be better documented. I realise that these things take time that is often not available.
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<alkisg>
Willtech: this isn't a matter of documentation. It's a matter of someone willling to pick up redhat packaging maintenance
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For a packager, discovering what goes where, isn't hard
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It's not a matter of documenting things for users, users shouldn't need to know packaging details
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<Willtech>
For a packager, yes.
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For the server administrator (user) the documentation is helpful for when there is no package available.
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<alkisg>
It's like saying, "ltsp doesn't run in fedora, please document how to make it run"
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It's easier to find someone to fix the code, than to document how to fix the code
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Or in this case, it would be much easier to find a fedora packager than to find someone knowing and willing to write full documentation for fedora packagers
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(or for fedora sysadmins)
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<Willtech>
Well, it is a good project. I hope there is much success in deploying for Fedora. Look forward to seeing it in the default repos. Red Hat is a good first step for that @bcg
11:22* alkisg hopes bcg will go public as well; it's been years now :D
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<bcg>
Willtech: I can share .spec files, or even .rpm. They should mostly just work for Fedora too.
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all but .spec files are already available at lp
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I would much rather maintain those .spec's within ltsp trees (one per three), but last time that idea was rejected.
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one per tree...
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tree? repo. whatever.
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<alkisg>
bcg: personally I believe that the official ltsp maintainer of any distro should be allowed to commit distro related code and why not packaging to ltsp-upstream
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What would it take for your packages to be published in redhat?
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<Chrisu_>
hy there. Someone active at this time?
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