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Channel log from 19 February 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<vaineh>
hi all, i've got an ubuntu 8.10 ltsp server up and clients booting. one machine however uses a via onboard graphics chip and resolution is not being detected correctyl. where can i find logs from the thin client to find out where its failing??
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<vain0r>
connection died :(
05:26
don't suppose anyone answered did they?
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<pasmen>
vain0r: try to look at the thin client in /var/log/Xorg.2.log
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<vain0r>
in a shell screen on the thin client or just when logged in to the ltsp server?
06:41
i booted the thin client from an ubuntu cd and that too didnt detect correct resolutions and only let me do 640x480 and 800x600. so presumably i need to get correct drivers for it installed somewhere
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<cliebow>
ogra:any channel i can ask question about openldap in intrepid?
07:30
<ogra>
cliebow, #ubuntu-server i guess
07:30
<cliebow>
thanks..just some stupid little tweak in the configs i need 8~)
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<jammcq>
Good morning #ltsp
08:43
<Guest25660>
Is it possible to run vlc local on the thin client on the same X display as the xdmcp session with the server ( ubuntu 8.10)
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<alkisg>
Guest25660: you actually use xdmcp or you mean ldm (ltsp display manager)?
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<cliebow>
jammcq!!
08:49
<Guest25660>
ldm
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<alkisg>
Guest25660: yes, it is possible, but people usually use italc nowadays, have you seen it?
08:50
<Guest25660>
no
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<alkisg>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc
08:50
http://italc.sourceforge.net/
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<Guest25660>
what has it to do with running a local application?
08:51
<alkisg>
The client part gets installed to the chroot, so it runs locally
08:51
It a modified version of vnc
08:52
*it's
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<ogra>
vnc != vlc ?
08:52
<alkisg>
Ooooh sorry, misread
08:52
<ogra>
;)
08:52
<Guest25660>
i want to use vlc (videolan) not vnc
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<alkisg>
:(
08:52
<Guest25660>
to make a combintation of a stb and thin client
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<ogra>
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPLocalAppSetup
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<alkisg>
OK, localapps is what you need
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<ogra>
with 9.04 you wont need anything of that anymore, localapps will be implemented transparently, 8.10 still needs the manual setup
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<Guest25660>
thanks
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<Guest25660>
it's working
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<vain0r>
im having an issue when i enable a shell in one of my screens_0x... in that when i do, my screen which should start x with ldm is just a black screen with a grey X for a cursor???
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<alkisg>
vain0r: AFAIK, in recent ltsp versions you have to set both SCREEN_02=shell and SCREEN_07=ldm. And (again AFAIK) SCREEN_01 should not be used because there are some problems with it.
09:45
<vain0r>
ah i'll give ldm a try, id put in startx which i had seen mentioned somewhere :/
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<r1ka>
hi guys
10:35
i am a k12 linux user, how i can make my server able to serve i386 client?
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<r1ka>
or i486
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<Gadi_eeepc>
!fedora
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<ltspbot>
Gadi_eeepc: Error: "fedora" is not a valid command.
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<Gadi_eeepc>
!k12linux
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<ltspbot>
Gadi_eeepc: Error: "k12linux" is not a valid command.
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<Gadi_eeepc>
oh, well
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!docs
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<ltspbot>
Gadi_eeepc: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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<Gadi_eeepc>
r1ka: ^^
10:40
that may help get you started
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<r1ka>
heh, i just wanted the right way to make it 'just works', manual compiling is not right way i think, but this is a last way idea :(
10:41
<Gadi_eeepc>
manually compiling?
10:42
where do you get that?
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<r1ka>
because k12linux ships images only for i586 as i can see :(
10:42
<Gadi_eeepc>
oh really?
10:43
well, you should be able to chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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and yum install a 386 kernel
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then exit out of the chroot
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and: ltsp-update-kernels
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<r1ka>
how i can do this? :-[ and my i586 kernels will be erased or not :-[ sorry for my stupid
10:44
and yum install a 386 kernel << i talking about this point
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<johnny>
Gadi_eeepc, will ltsp really run on a real 386?
10:45
lol
10:45
r1ka, your clients need about 128MB ram btw
10:45
for optimal performance..
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<r1ka>
i have lots of SDRAM modules, but only i386\486 processors :(
10:46
i486 i mean
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<johnny>
i doubt those systems can take enough ram
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<r1ka>
i486 can take up to 256
10:47
dont know about i386 btw
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<johnny>
fedora's binaries may actually be i386 (or i486) compiled with i586 optimizations
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so.. the might actually run
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they*
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<r1ka>
i have much of i586\i686 based machines they works fine but when i tried to boot celeron 333MHz based board i got failed :(
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<johnny>
333.. that is i686
10:51
isn't it?
10:51
that is a different problem i imagine
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<r1ka>
same board with cel 500MHz work okay
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<r1ka>
works
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<r1ka>
and only with 64MB of memory
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<johnny>
which ltsp are you using?
10:52
ltsp4?
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<johnny>
that might work...
10:53
with 64 that is
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<r1ka>
k12linux based on ltsp5 afaik
10:53
actual versions i mean
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<johnny>
hmm.. interesting.. i'm suprised it isn't failing harder
10:53
i think we were yelled at that it couldn't boot that low
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<Gadi_eeepc>
r1ka: sorry my wireless crapped out
10:54* johnny steals Gadi's eeepc
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<Gadi_eeepc>
r1ka: you can chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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and yum innstall a 386 kernel
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<johnny>
if i was netadmin.. i would have then removed _eeepc froo your nick.. hehe
10:54
<Gadi_eeepc>
hehe
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<mraudsepp>
I'm getting reports that k12linux doesn't boot our 433MHz ThinCan for some guys when it boots some other systems. And Edubuntu works for me, need to test k12 here
10:54
<johnny>
where is the real Gadi !
10:54
<r1ka>
i can compose a list of hardware wich i using for u interest but i wanted to make my old crap (slot A celerons and celerons < 500 MHz) worked
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<mraudsepp>
it installs a 686 kernel by default?
10:55
<r1ka>
i586
10:55
<mraudsepp>
I think our geode LX should be able to handle it though
10:55
<johnny>
damnit.. i need a mouse pad
10:55
<Gadi_eeepc>
yeah
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<r1ka>
blah-blah-initrd.i568
10:55
<mraudsepp>
(sorry for kind-of hijacking the discussion ;d)
10:55
<Gadi_eeepc>
geode lx should be 586
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<johnny>
oh.. here it comes
10:56
<mraudsepp>
http://pastebin.ca/1342080
10:56
err, client side hangs after the point the text ends
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<Gadi_eeepc>
I think the thincans needed some particular elf image format to work
10:58
or some such
10:58
Q-FUNK would know
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<zanikus>
does anyone know how to fix the issue where the kernel hangs on or just after starting the bluetooth service? i've tried all the fixes i could find but no luck. using ubuntu hardy as the ltsp server. any help would be greatly appreciated - this problem has been driving me nuts! thin client works good, but this fat client i built wont boot past bluetooth.
11:01
<r1ka>
so other question... how i can serve two subnets of ltsp clients on my k12linux? just bridge virtual ethernet adapter (ltspbr0) to two real?
11:02
and wich correctives i must provide for dhcp and other configs..
11:02
<johnny>
zanikus, remove bluetooth?
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<warren>
CAN-o-SPAM_: good news for you
11:03
CAN-o-SPAM_: Dell's Atom thin client is horribly expensive and sucks terribly
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<r1ka>
lol
11:04
<zanikus>
johnny, i tried commenting out suspected parts of the init.d script for btooth. removed it S and K's from all run levels. added exit 0 to the top of the init.d script. tried kernel options noapic, no noiapic and no acpi. no matter what btooth tries to start and hangs. i suppose it could be the next service that is hanging up but from what ive read this btooth hang is a common issue on regular installs.
11:05
<Gadi_eeepc>
zanikus: blacklist the module
11:05
<zanikus>
tried that too
11:05
<Gadi_eeepc>
remove the package
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<zanikus>
im not new to linux, but ltsp is new. i'm just chrooting to my fat client environment and making the changes in there, not the host os so I think im doing that part right at least
11:06
<Gadi_eeepc>
rerolling the image?
11:06
(if using ubuntu)
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<zanikus>
sorry, new to ltsp... what is rerolling? do i need to do that before my changes to the chrooted file system take affect?
11:07
<johnny>
yes
11:07
nbd
11:07
<zanikus>
damnit
11:07
no wonder it seemed like it didnt do a damn thing
11:07
<johnny>
they are compressed , so they can be served to the client faster
11:07
<zanikus>
ahhhh...
11:07
<johnny>
that's the simpe explanation anyways
11:07
<zanikus>
makes perfect sense
11:07
<Gadi_eeepc>
sudo ltsp-update-image
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<johnny>
Gadi, don't you need to pass an arg to use /opt/ltsp/fati386
11:08
or whatever the chroot is
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<Gadi_eeepc>
ah, yes
11:08
what johnny said
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<zanikus>
many thx guys, i can fumble thru the cli args to make it fly
11:09
<Gadi_eeepc>
have a look at /usr/sbin/ltsp-update-image
11:09
you'll see the cli flags
11:09
its a shell script
11:09
<zanikus>
sweet
11:09
<CAN-o-SPAM_>
warren: i like, why does it suck?
11:10
<warren>
CAN-o-SPAM_: double price, half the RAM standard, and SiS video. they're shipping it using the vesa driver.
11:10
big pile of lose
11:10
<johnny>
SiS is still a company? hehe
11:10
i'm suprised they are still alive
11:10
<warren>
I warned Dell not to do this a year ago.
11:10
They didn't listen.
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<johnny>
i wonder how much money they saved..
11:11
<warren>
CAN-o-SPAM_: to be honest I worried for your company with dell coming out with this, but now that I see it, it is laughable.
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<warren>
johnny: how much they saved in return for a product that is unsellable?
11:11
<CAN-o-SPAM_>
warren: by all means, spread the wrods
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word
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<johnny>
sure..
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<_UsUrPeR_>
you warned Dell? :)
11:11
<johnny>
but i mean instead of using intel video
11:11
<_UsUrPeR_>
I warned Bush about Iraq...
11:11
<johnny>
or something else standard
11:12
yeah.. warren was dining with michael dell ..hehe
11:12
<_UsUrPeR_>
I KNEW IT!
11:12
<warren>
_UsUrPeR_: yes, I warned them
11:12
_UsUrPeR_: good load of help that was
11:13
<CAN-o-SPAM_>
selective hearing is a nice trait
11:13
<johnny>
warren, were you warning anybody who had the power to make such decisions ?
11:13
<warren>
johnny: no clue
11:13
<johnny>
then you weren't really warning them :)
11:13
<warren>
well, I don't care
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<CAN-o-SPAM_>
whatever ... moral of this story ... DON't Buy Dell ... BUY Diskless!
11:14
<r1ka>
O_O
11:15
<CAN-o-SPAM_>
(unless your interested in a hard drive)
11:16
<johnny>
i haven't bought anything.. we can't afford it
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<johnny>
we just have 4 PCs :)
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<r1ka>
f*kng i486 :(
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<zanikus>
one last question and i think im good.... ive built a few chrooted directories and basically killed them trying to fix my bluetooth woes... i can't sudo rm -rf them - some files wont delete. anyone know a good way to trash those directories?
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<johnny>
for example?
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<zanikus>
proc, sys and usr under /opt/ltsp/fatti386
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<Gadi_eeepc>
zanikus: chroot in and unmount them
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<alkisg>
gpxe supports directly loading a kernel/initrd from tftp or even http. I try to bypass pxelinux.0 and directly load vmlinuz, but I get this error: http://users.sch.gr/alkisg/temp/gpxe.png Should I specify a root=... parameter?
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<johnny>
usr is different..
11:21
yeah.. loading over http would be nice..
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<evarlast>
is there an ltsp-update-client to move between ltsp releases?
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<alkisg>
johnny: I've done it before... I just don't remember how :(
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<johnny>
evarlast, no need.. just chroot in and use your distro tools
11:23
but if you upgrade host distributions.. just rm -rf it, and start over
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<alkisg>
Ah, relief, gpxe git-head probably has a bug, the last release works OK. :)
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<sistemas>
guys
11:56
ldm dont work
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<johnny>
nyu is occupied ..
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<johnny>
the students have taken it
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<juliano_>
Hi for all, I try to use rdesktop in LTSP-5 I set SCREEN_07=rdesktop and RD_SERVER=xxx.xxx.xxx.xx but my client don't connect, is there any other information about this ?
12:22
ops, RDP_SERVER
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<vagrantc>
juliano_: oops, as in you mistyped it in IRC, or as in you mistyped it in the configuration file?
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<juliano_>
vagrantc, lts.conf
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: I want to put Debian in an old PC, for my kids to play games and for me to see ltsp in debian. What should I put, testing or sid? Is ltsp in testing regularly updated? (now that lenny is out :))
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: i haven't made any uploads to debian since lenny released.
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<alkisg>
Ah, so even sid is somewhat out of date?
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: but typically there will be at least 10 days for an upload to migrate from unstable/sid to testing/squeeze ... there's also some packages in experimental which work fine with lenny
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: so, if testing usually has a-month-old ltsp, I'm fine with it :)
12:38
<vagrantc>
alkisg: right now, testing has a 6+ month old LTSP, but you can pull ltsp-specific things from experimental...
12:38
<alkisg>
Ah, I can do that? OK then, I'll install testing and see how this is done later on. Thanks!
12:38
<vagrantc>
alkisg: you get to have fun games with apt pinning :)
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<ujinsky>
hi all
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<sistemas>
hi
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: and for ltsp testing, it's gnome-only, right? No kde/xfce, not even without sound/localdevs?
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<ujinsky>
help! i need help with starting LTSP 4.2 on Intel D945GCLF system
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<ujinsky>
Problem with start X on the thin client.
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<ujinsky>
for more information about my test-system - http://community.livejournal.com/ru_root/1697580.html
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: ??
12:52
alkisg: i mostly test with icewm
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<alkisg>
Hm... I must have understood something wrong... ok, I'll try, ty
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<juliano_>
Any body here get this message: xauth: creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority
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<Lns>
juliano_: afaik that's totally normal
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<juliano_>
Lns, but ldm don't start.
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<Lns>
juliano_: that message above is most likely unrelated
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<Gadi_eeepc>
juliano_: set XSERVER=vesa in lts.conf
13:42* Gadi_eeepc bets your Xserver is just failing to start
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<Lns>
Gadi: is it safe to assume VESA will *always* work, given there's no hardware / other config issues?
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err, Gadi_eeepc1 ^^
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<Gadi_eeepc1>
with standard res monitors
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yes
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with widescreen, no
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<Lns>
ah
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<sistemas>
hi
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<Lns>
hello sistemas
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<sistemas>
im trying kiwi
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<sistemas>
i have a ltsp server
14:30
with 20 clients
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and it work fine
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but it use suse 10.0
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i want to update the server and use suse 11.1
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and ltsp5
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but ltsp5 is to slow
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do you know why?
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do you think is better work with suse 11.1 and ltsp4
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?
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<stgraber>
Gadi: hmm, isn't ltspfs supposed to mount the usb keys with the sync parameter ?
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<sistemas>
ltsp configuration is too confuse
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<Lns>
sistemas: Not many people here are SuSE people - might wanna try the suse/kiwi chans
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<johnny>
sistemas, try LDM_DIRECTX=Y
14:36
in your lts.conf
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<Gadi_eeepc1>
stgraber: why?
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<sistemas>
johny whats that
14:39
directx
14:40
Enabling LDM_DIRECTX=True For Faster Sessions on Gutsy Serve
14:40
ok
14:41
<johnny>
sistemas, it does mean anybody who has access to your network can see what people are doing exactly
14:41
and sniff it
14:42
that's the reason why it is disabled by default.. security
14:43
<sistemas>
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm good
14:43
here i dont need security i need velocity
14:43
speed
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<sistemas>
ltsp4 server run very very fast
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and ltsp5 is very slow since loading kernel
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and kde refresh screen slow
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<stgraber>
Gadi: hmm, so that you don't loose what you just wrote when you unplug it ? :)
15:00
Gadi: as you can't unmount it when you're done
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<Gadi_eeepc1>
I dont see how sync will help if you just yank your usb stick before the write cycle finishes
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and ltspfs unmounts every couple of seconds, so the buffer shuld be flushed just like a sync
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afaik
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<talntid>
hi all.
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anyone around?
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<johnny>
!ask
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<ltspbot>
johnny: "ask" is Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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<talntid>
I'm not asking a question. heh
15:12
was just seeing if anyone was here.... :)
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<johnny>
even people who are here
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like me
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might not answer that
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<talntid>
i suppose :)
15:13
actually i think i will ask something i ask every once in a while and never get answered... :P
15:14
I have VNC setup on my thin clients. anyone have a client that shows multiple clients screens at once?
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they all have the same password
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<johnny>
italc doesn't multipel screens at once..
15:16
<talntid>
i couldn't get italc working anyhow... tried for a while...
15:16
it looks like a good product, but hard to get working..
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<johnny>
i'm sure they can help
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directly
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if nobody can here
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that kinda of thing is not allowed at our store
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so i don't use it..
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and didn't learn how
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<talntid>
gotcha.
15:17
if i remember correctly, someone here is actually a developer for italc..
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<johnny>
it's an internet cafe, and nobody wanted to allow any worker behind the counter to look inconspicuously at someone screen
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<talntid>
but i didn't have much luck getting it to work
15:18
<johnny>
i don't think so
15:18
<talntid>
ah, true.
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<johnny>
i only think packagers and integrators are here
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not developers
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<talntid>
maybe
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cause they only have a "tenative" manual, and half the setup instructions are in windowsw
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oh well :)
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<johnny>
sure.. try their channel maybe?
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<talntid>
nobody there :)
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um
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http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=ITALC_in_a_ThinClient_environment
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i never noticed that before
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<alkisg>
talntid: have you seen any italc screenshots? It does display all the clients' screens, albeit in thumbnails...
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<talntid>
right. that's great
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if it would work :P
15:27
<alkisg>
...and there are some scripts (at least in ubuntu) to make it easier to work under ltsp
15:27
E.g. automatic client discovery, auto aligning the clients etc
15:29
<talntid>
ah cool
15:29
are you familiar with it? if so, can i hire your services?
15:30
<alkisg>
Heh... I am familiar with it, but it's really simple to get going (at least for the default ubuntu install), no need for hiring or anything :)
15:31
Default install = it runs on the servers => can only see the clients after they log on
15:31
<talntid>
i have a ltsp server, named ltsp1...
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it is in a Xen virtual environment
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so, to clarify though...
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i install italc on the server
15:34
hmm, i'm attempting it again. via the wiki
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the Applications->System Tools->iTalc ..
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<alkisg>
talntid: no, don't use this wiki. Is your distro ubuntu?
15:35
<talntid>
yes, ubuntu
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<alkisg>
version?
15:36
<johnny>
stupid bzr
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<talntid>
8.10
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<johnny>
their rss feed title has funny characters
15:36
err sorry
15:36
stupid launchpad :)
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<talntid>
Linux ltsp1 2.6.24-17-xen #1 SMP Thu May 1 15:55:31 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
15:36
<johnny>
or maybe even.. stupid loggerhead.. not sure..
15:36
<alkisg>
talntid: put the italc ppa into your sources.list. Then just install, nothing else to configure
15:36
<talntid>
hmm
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<alkisg>
talntid: https://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-italc-devel/+archive/ppa
15:37
<talntid>
have never added one that looked like that
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<alkisg>
Well, if you _visit_ that url you'll find this: The Intrepid Ibex The Hardy Heron deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/edubuntu-italc-devel/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
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<talntid>
gotcha.
15:41
reading
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<alkisg>
talntid: it contains fixes for autodetection, localization, avahi registration and other things that are not in 8.10. Do prefer this one over the official repositories. :)
15:44
<talntid>
nice :)
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i'm currently reading on how to enter the ppa key
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since i don't have a graphical interface. hehe
15:45
<alkisg>
talntid: no need; you'll just be prompted to press an additional "y"
15:45
<talntid>
ah
15:45
sweet
15:47
hmm
15:47
should i just aptitude install libitalc italc-client italc-master then?
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<alkisg>
If you added the ppa into your sources.list (or sources.list.d), yes, that would be enough
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<talntid>
says it's keeping same version, which is why i thought it is odd
15:49
<alkisg>
Maybe aptitude behaves differently than apt-get? Try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade...
15:50
Erm, sorry, not upgrade, apt-get install :)
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<talntid>
yeah i did update right after i added to sources.list...
15:50
i just purged it, i'll reinstall it
15:55
reinstalled...
15:56
<alkisg>
OK, now you need to logon a user in a TC.
15:57
<talntid>
i have one sitting beside me...
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it's logged in
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<alkisg>
The script runs while the user logs in, so you have to logoff + logon again
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<talntid>
it automatically installs a script somehow?
15:59
<alkisg>
Yes, it's installed now. ica-launcher for clients, italc-launcher for the "watcher"
15:59
<talntid>
hmm.
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<alkisg>
It runs automatically
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(ica-launcher)
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<talntid>
i just rebooted the client for good measure
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logging in now
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k, logged in.
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confirmed. ica-launcher is running on that client
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<alkisg>
OK, run italc-launcher from the menu ("italc master interface")
16:04
<talntid>
from the thin client?
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<alkisg>
I usually sit on the server, but I think you can run it from a (another) thin client
16:05
<talntid>
No authentication-keys were found or your old ones were broken. Please create a new key-pair using ICA
16:06
<alkisg>
That's probably because you already had installed it previously.
16:06
<talntid>
it never ran properly. that's the error that always kicked my ass
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http://italc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Setup_authentication_keys
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should I do that? :)
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<alkisg>
Yeah, looks good. Alternatively you could just uninstall it, delete your existing keys and reinstall it! :P :D
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<talntid>
which would you do? :)
16:11
that didn't work, the link i sent you :P
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i typed that on the server, it did it's stuff, and no-go
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hmm
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i may have fixed it
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lemme seee
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<talntid>
hmm
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still not
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<alkisg>
Me? I'd uninstall, delete keys, reinstall, and reboot server + TC. That would be stupid, but I prefer safe+stupid, it saves time... :)
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<talntid>
yeah ;)
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i don't mind doing that either.
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k, i think it is purged
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any way to confirm it?
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/etc/italc/keys are missing..
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now
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also, when reinstalling, it says it has unmet dependencies...
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<alkisg>
What would that be?
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<sistemas__>
hi
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<talntid>
pastbining it
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http://pastebin.com/m5e83247f
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<alkisg>
talntid: what does `dpkg -l libqt4-network` give you? e.g. I have 4.4.3-0ubuntu1.1. If you don't have it, yes, you should install it.
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<talntid>
No packages found matching libqt4-network.
16:28
<alkisg>
OK, say "y", to install all the dependencies
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<talntid>
it doesn't install 'em
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and apt-cache can't find them
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<alkisg>
Erm... I don't know anything about that... you said you don't have a gui (to use synaptic)?
16:30
<talntid>
i can
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using ssh -X
16:30
<alkisg>
Give it a try...
16:30
<talntid>
its open :)
16:30
i never use synaptic. hehe
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<talntid>
searches for "libqt4-network" -- no results
16:31
looks like i need to add hardy-backports
16:31
<alkisg>
ubottu: libqt4-network (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 network module. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.3-0ubuntu1.1 (intrepid), package size 427 kB, installed size 1132
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<talntid>
into my sources.list -- can you check your sources list and show me the hardy-backports line?
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<alkisg>
There's a checkbox for that in synaptic :)
16:33
mine is: deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
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<schregge>
hi
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<schregge>
how can i start the saned daemon for a specific thinclient in ubuntu 8.10 (XINETD_SERVICES=saned does not work
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<talntid>
hmmmmm
16:42
so now it sees them....
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but doesn't install them. says uninstallable
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<alkisg>
Heh... no wonder italc wasn't working before... :)
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<talntid>
guess so ;)
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<talntid>
hmmm
16:52
kickin my arse again. :P
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<talntid>
i installed a package, it had unmet dependencies..
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now if i try to remove it, it tries to remove 26 essential packages. ouch
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<yotux>
I installed ltsp and on my thin client it is telling me image file to large for low memory
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<talntid>
alkisg, I don't suppose you're currently around?
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<johnny>
talntid, he's in greece.. so probably not quite yet
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close tho
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<talntid>
hehe
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