IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 25 April 2020   (all times are UTC)

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07:00
<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, family and work going OK. It's all a bit different & strange at this time of course due to all coronavirus measures, but we're managing.
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18:59
<brcisna>
hello alkisg
18:59
<alkisg>
Hi brcisna
18:59
Do this:
18:59
!vnc-edide
18:59
<ltspbot>
vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
18:59
<brcisna>
alkisg those commands were remoted into server
18:59
<alkisg>
I meant, to run them on the server while remoting to the client
19:00
Not remoting to server
19:00
<brcisna>
i am using my older working image of client
19:00
ok let me try that sorry
19:00
<alkisg>
OK, do what the bot wrote above to share your screen with me, so that it's a lot faster
19:00
Or this, on the server: x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
19:01
<brcisna>
ok i am at client??
19:01
ok hang on please
19:01
i will remote to server then run that command
19:02
<alkisg>
Btw, bullseye is a development release, only for developers...
19:02
Not for users or power users...
19:03
<brcisna>
ok run that command x11vnc
19:04
<alkisg>
OK put the pass there
19:04
brcisna: does the keyboard work on the client now?
19:04
<brcisna>
alksi,,i am in a workingh image
19:05
<alkisg>
OK, we want to see the broken image
19:05
<brcisna>
i will rename the non working image and reboot client OK?
19:05
<alkisg>
Also, don't login with the same user two times, on the server and on the client
19:05
You need another user
19:05
<brcisna>
is this alright? & thanks for help
19:05
<alkisg>
No, wait
19:05
I'll do it
19:05
<brcisna>
ok
19:08
<alkisg>
working: Linux ltsp110 5.4.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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19:31
<brcisna>
alksg i am back
19:31
alkisg i am back
19:32
i apolgize for being so slow at this
19:32
i still have no keyboard mouse on client,,i renamed the old image to be able to have a working client
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19:41
<alkisg>
brcisna: can't you come to IRC from the server?
19:41
Do you need to work on this client that we want to reboot?
19:41
<brcisna>
ok alksig let me go to basement sit at server Ok,,,,? give me to minutes i apprciate you efforts..
19:42
<alkisg>
brcisna: VNC to me first
19:42
remote to the server, x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
19:42
<brcisna>
ok will do---
19:42
<alkisg>
How are you remoting, vnc, rdp, x2go?
19:43
<brcisna>
x2go,,is this OK?
19:43
<alkisg>
That's why I lost the server when we rebooted the client
19:43
Anyway OK go on
19:43
<brcisna>
ook tell me how?
19:43
ok
19:46
<alkisg>
brcisna: ok go to basement
19:46
<brcisna>
ok
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19:48
<brcisna>
alkisg am in basement at server
19:48
<alkisg>
OK, run vnc from there
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x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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19:49
<alkisg>
I rebooted the client, let's wait for it to load with the new image
19:49
*the broken one
19:49
<brcisna>
ok thank you for doing this
19:54
<alkisg>
non-working: Linux ltsp110 5.4.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux
19:54
OK it's the same kernel
19:55
<brcisna>
so reboot cleint and try?
19:55
<vagrantc>
at least a few days old install, looks like
19:55
<alkisg>
I think it's because apt wasn't done when you run `ltsp image`
19:55
brcisna: no, this image is broken as you say
19:55
No need to reboot it; we need a new one
19:56
<vagrantc>
could have an apt hook that triggers a regeneration of the image in the background...
19:57
<alkisg>
I think brcisna's problem is either that bullseye is broken, or that apt was in a bad state when he ran `ltsp image /`
19:57
<brcisna>
alksig while that is running why is the newer imahe many megabytes less than working client image?
19:57
<alkisg>
brcisna: maybe a kernel was autoremoved
19:57
You can loop-mount and compare them if you want
19:58
<brcisna>
yes as i said autoremve removes the old outdated kernel i seen this
19:58
<alkisg>
brcisna: btw, why are you running bullseye instead of a stable version? Are you a developer?
19:58
<brcisna>
no just wanted to try bullseye i know should stick with stable,,i apologize
19:59
<alkisg>
For example, if there's an *unrelated* bug in bullseye now, we're just wasting our time trying to find out what's wrong with your ltsp setup :)
19:59
<brcisna>
alkisg when them completes would you look ay image size difference between this and working image?
19:59
<alkisg>
No no it's not worth it
19:59
Some package was removed, no big deal
20:01
linux-image-5.3.0-2-amd64:amd64 and others were removed, probably there's the size difference
20:01
Maybe also removing mutter broke things
20:10
brcisna: ok go to the client and see if you can type. If you can't, also try pressing this: Ctrl+Alt+F2
20:10
And see if you get a terminal taht way
20:10
<brcisna>
ok hang on i go upstairs
20:10
if not qwork i will come back to server,,,
20:11
<alkisg>
ok
20:15
<brcisna>
alkisg when i hit ctl-alt-f2 i see your inputs on client?
20:15
<alkisg>
No, you should see a black terminal screen
20:15
Were you able to type?
20:16
<brcisna>
after reboot i se3e blinking cursor but could not ypre anything the blinking cursor eventually disappers?
20:16
no terminal screen
20:16
<alkisg>
Now the client is in the login screen. Did you see the login screen?
20:17
<brcisna>
yes i always see login screen but no keyboad mouse input
20:17
<alkisg>
And if you press ctrl+alt+f2 in the login screen, do you get a black terminal?
20:17
<brcisna>
no no black terminal
20:17
<alkisg>
OK. The client appears to work fine, I can type to the login screen via epoptes
20:17
And it doesn't sound like a missing module either
20:18
So it sounds like a bug in bullseye
20:18
<brcisna>
ok you think try another keyboard mosue,,,,but if i boot to hard disk,,of client each works?
20:18
<alkisg>
I think you should stick to debian stable... :)
20:18
If it happens in debian stable, it's worth troubleshooting more
20:18
<brcisna>
ok thank you alkisg
20:18
<alkisg>
But not for testing; it might be something completely unrelated
20:19
<brcisna>
sorry for taking so much of your time
20:19
<alkisg>
No worries; I leave now, good night :)
20:19* alkisg waves
20:19
<brcisna>
good night
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