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Channel log from 13 September 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<acp_>
hi its been a month but still could not get answers from the internet on how to fix my client sound that is very weak seem to lack a means of adjusting volume or something else? i also ask from ltsp-developer if theres a patch that I could test and give feed back but seem that I could not get through. Any clues?
00:43
im using ltsp-5 in ubuntu 8.04.1
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<tarzeau>
where can i define that local apps stuff?
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<Solv>
I have a kiwi-ltsp install on opensuse 11....first time I installed it everything worked perfectly straight away...but I changed hdds, and did a new raid install...and redownloaded kiwi-ltsp. This time I had to manually setup the config file before the kiwi-ltsp-setup would work, and now ldm logs be back out after just 1/4 second after seeing the wallpaper logging in...anyone know how i can debug what's going on?
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<cyberorg>
Solv, pastebin "rpm -qa | grep ltsp"
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<Solv>
cyberorg, ta
06:56
cyberorg, http://pastebin.com/m7df82bfe
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<cyberorg>
Solv, you are using old packages, follow the update instructions here
06:58
http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~cyberorg/2008/09/12/announcing-opensuse-ltsp-050-using-kiwi-imaging-technology/
06:58
<Solv>
okay cheers...i just used the one-click install from the opensuse wiki....obviously not updated i guess
06:58
<cyberorg>
Solv, try all zypper commands there :)
06:59
<Solv>
great...will do, appreciate the help...i'll let you know what happend
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<Solv>
cyberorg, once i get the images, do i need to rerun kiwi-ltsp-setup -c ?
07:02
<cyberorg>
Solv, yes, check /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp and then do kiwi-ltsp-setup -c
07:02
<Solv>
cyberorg, i wonder why i had to manually configure the sysconfig file this time...but last time it just did it all by itself?
07:05
<cyberorg>
Solv, it won't change if you have modified /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp already, if you remove it and then install packages it will be created automatically according to your setup
07:06
you will however will have to look at it and confirm that autofoo has done a proper job
07:08
<Solv>
cyberorg, yeah i know...what i'm saying was it didn't automatically create it the second time...remember it was a fresh reinstall of opensuse
07:08
so first time i installed suse 11 i tried it and ran the setup and everything was fine....then my hdd crashed so new install of suse 11
07:08
on a raid array
07:09
and then tried again, ran the setup and it gave me python errors complaining that the values were missing from the /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp file
07:10
from a fresh run....so anyway i filled em in cause I knew what they had to be and then the setup ran fine after that....i don't think it's related to my ldm problem....just a strange thing i guess
07:10
<cyberorg>
Solv, hmm, the scripts might not have detected something
07:11
<Solv>
well 70% done....almost there =)
07:12
<cyberorg>
yeah, the image is about 130M
07:14
<Solv>
cyberorg, are you involved in kiwi-ltsp?
07:14
<cyberorg>
Solv, yup, a bit ;)
07:15
<Solv>
i'm very impressed....i've been using ltsp since 4.1 and they were great...but this is downright incredible how easy it is
07:15
<cyberorg>
Solv, all thanks to great work by kiwi and ltsp teams
07:15
<Solv>
the ubuntu one is great too...how you can select an ltsp server at the installation time
07:15
but i like the ldm screen of kiwi much more
07:16
and the boot menu is cool a very cool addition
07:16
<cyberorg>
Solv, that one is designed by lejo here
07:16
boot menu is done by me ;)
07:16
<Solv>
hehe...well done
07:16
okay i got that happening...time to reboot my client
07:17
<cyberorg>
i have some additional items in boot menu, like start automated installation
07:18
<Solv>
cyberorg, =(
07:19
still same problem....get funny coloured lines after the splash screen, then logged out to ldm again
07:19
<cyberorg>
ran kiwi-ltsp-setup -c ?
07:19
<Solv>
yep
07:19
i'm not sure if it's relevant but the users on the server have dual screen setups
07:19
<cyberorg>
pastebin ifconfig and /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp
07:20
<Solv>
first time i tried it when everything worked...it displayed the second screen...then i updated to kde 4.1 and it displayed the first screen...
07:20
okay
07:20
<cyberorg>
Solv, are you able to ssh in from another machine to the server?
07:20
<Solv>
yeah...but why can't i just run a konsole?
07:21
oh
07:21
sorry...i see what you mean
07:21
checking to see if its a firewall issue.....hold on
07:22
cyberorg, although i have two nics...so the dhcp server is on the nic with the firewall set to 'internal' in suse yast
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so even if i could ssh in i'd be doing it on the other nic
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<cyberorg>
so pastbin those two things we'll know :)
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<Solv>
http://pastebin.com/d22fcf709
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<cyberorg>
Solv, looks alright, is firewall disabled on eth1?
07:25
try ssh 192.168.0.1 from another machine as user
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<Solv>
cyberorg, 192.168.0.0 network is connected only to the thin client...the rest of my network is 192.168.1.0
07:26
so can i ssh from the thin client...like drop into a shell from ldm screen and try?
07:27
<cyberorg>
Solv, try from normal PC in your network
07:28
<Solv>
cyberorg, but eth1 isn't connected to the rest of the network...eth0 is...so i'd have to switch cables, and then reboot a pc to get an ip..i guess i can
07:34
just switched off the firewall...the problem is still the same...and i can ssh in from my eeepc so the service is working...
07:35
is there a log file on the server that will help find out what the issue is?
07:36
<cyberorg>
Solv, /var/log/messages
07:41
<Solv>
okay found something might help us
07:41
http://pastebin.com/d471364bc
07:42
<cyberorg>
Solv, that is unfamiliar to me, you have apparmor turned on?
07:43
<Solv>
hmm.. i didn't turn it on...but it might be by default
07:43
yeah it was.....lets see now hey
07:44
not the issue...i'll google for abit
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<cyberorg>
Solv, try "ssh -X user@192.168.0.1 /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession"
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<Nubae>
check your sshd_config
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<Solv>
cyberorg, from the server console...as rrot
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root
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<cyberorg>
no, from another machine in the network
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<Solv>
Nubae, what would i be checking for?
07:50
<Nubae>
check that u haven't limited ssh access to just one user
07:50
<cyberorg>
Nubae, default setup should work
07:50
<Nubae>
yeah if it hasn't been touched, it should be ok
07:50
<Solv>
X11 forwarding is enabled...tcp forwarding is commented out
07:50
<Nubae>
but it is sshd that is complaining
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<Solv>
the only things that aren't commented out are X11 forwarding, usePAM yes and Password authentication no
07:52
oh and protocol 2
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<Nubae>
protocol 2 is commented out?
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<Solv>
no it is enabled
07:52
<Nubae>
ok good
07:54
HostbasedAuthentication should be set to no
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and PermitRootLogin to yes
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<Solv>
i just ssh'd in from my eeepc...and it returned me to the prompt
07:55
Nubae, that one is commented out
07:55
Sep 13 22:54:22 mediacentre sshd[13408]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for solv from 192.168.0.97 port 38734 ssh2
07:56
<johnny>
there's something funny even just trying to start pulse
07:56
<Nubae>
well its definitly a problem with ssh if you can't ssh normally from another computer
07:56
<johnny>
in the client
07:56
pulseaudio --start
07:56
<Nubae>
johnny: still battling audio eh?
07:56
<Solv>
Nubae, will i'm not sure if it's cause i'm trying to run an x session or not
07:56
i'll try just normally
07:57
<johnny>
W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
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E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
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that's when running pulseaudio --start
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which is run by the autostart xdg script.. which is probably why it's not showing up at startup
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<Solv>
I can ssh in just fine from the console
08:01
I reckon it might be a KDE 4.1 issue
08:01
<Nubae>
could be
08:01
<Solv>
it authenticates fine....starts the splash screen fine, with my custom mouse cursor...and then strange coloured lines and back to ldm
08:01
i wonder if there is something i should check with the kde login manager?
08:03
<cyberorg>
Solv, if you got gnome in there please try out
08:03
<Solv>
cyberorg, i'll have to get it
08:03
<Nubae>
maybe home directory has the wrong permissions
08:03
<cyberorg>
Nubae, good idea, blame kde4 ;)
08:04
<johnny>
aha..
08:04
<Solv>
it's quite likely really...it's still quite buggy
08:04
<johnny>
mpg123 -d pulse
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cyberorg, it works locally now in the debug console
08:04
with pulse 0.9.12
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<cyberorg>
johnny, wow, congratulations :)
08:05
you are now closer than you think
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<johnny>
the problem before.. was that it just wasn't putting audio out
08:05
i'm still having to set my audio prefs ..
08:05
even after warren's patch. mixer elements are still muted
08:05
by default
08:05
i wonder what i did wrong there..
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<cyberorg>
johnny, you will need default set even with that patch
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<johnny>
hmm?
08:07
how so? looks like it does the unmuting
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<Solv>
oh btw...i don't think it's relevant...but during the thin client boot, i notice it says that the name of the server is 'tftp server' and then it says it can't find 'tftp server'...as if that was the hostname...but it doesn't seem to affect it...not entirely sure what's going on there
08:09
it's about midway through...so no it's not the actual tftp server that it can't find....it wouldn't even get to the boot menu if that were the case
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<Solv>
anyone know if there is a metapackage for the gnome desktop in opensuse?
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<Solv>
cyberorg, Nubae guess what...it IS KDE...gnome logs in fine...pity i don't like gnome =(
09:05
<cyberorg>
Solv, create brand new user and try login to kde4 using that
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<Solv>
okies
09:06
yeah actually cause the two users i have the home dir were backed up to a different drive and then imported back in after reinstalling opensuse
09:06
<ogra>
weird, KDE works fine on kubuntu afaik
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<Solv>
opensuse said it applied the new permissions to them...but who knows...
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<cyberorg>
Solv, you can do chown username /home/username -R
09:07
ogra, it works even better on openSUSE :D
09:08
<ogra>
cyberorg, well, according to the above it doesnt
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<Solv>
bring on the flam wars!
09:08
flame even
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<cyberorg>
ogra, home was imported
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<ogra>
ah
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Solv, i'm only flaming about ltsp forks on suse, no about desktop envs :P
09:10
<Solv>
nope
09:10
same deal
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<cyberorg>
ogra, doesnt flame at all, that is warren's task :)
09:10
<Solv>
besides...if the permissions were wrong how could i log in locally?
09:10
<ogra>
cyberorg, right, that as well
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<Solv>
KDE have screwed something up in their last update
09:11
I guess it's time to file a bug report
09:13
<ogra>
use kubuntu hardy ;)
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<cyberorg>
Solv, usually i have to delete /home/user/.kde4 when doing major kde4 update
09:13
<ogra>
i know their kde4 works
09:14
<Solv>
ogra, no offence but i don't like ubuntu/kubuntu
09:14
<ogra>
well, they stick with gnome on suse :)
09:14
<Solv>
ogra, even though i do have eeebuntu netbook remix on my asus eeepc - but that's cause it rocks
09:14
the ume-launcher thingo
09:14
<ogra>
*s/they/then/
09:14* cyberorg is using kde4
09:14
<ogra>
Solv, i'*m currently hacking on exactly that app :)
09:15
cyberorg, with ltsp ?
09:15
<cyberorg>
ogra, yes, it works great
09:15
<Solv>
nice...i think the netbook remix needs the new lightweight gnome that has come out...it would run much better
09:15
<ogra>
cyberorg, so make it work for Solv ! :)
09:15
<Solv>
hehe
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<ogra>
Solv, thats my job atm ;)
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<cyberorg>
ogra, i am sure it will work with fresh user
09:16
<Solv>
lxde or whatever it's called
09:16
<ogra>
try out ubuntu-mobile if 8.10 comes out
09:16
<Solv>
okay....but doesn't that have maximus
09:16
<ogra>
though its focused on touchscreens
09:16
i added maximus to the metapackage last week
09:17
ubuntu-mobile != ubuntu-ume/ubuntu-mid
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<Solv>
because maximus is great for a mobile...but for a 9" it is actually annoying....
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<ogra>
its a new thing for netbooks with touchscreens in intrepid
09:18
<Solv>
ogra, I know the new kernel has support for asus built in...that will e great
09:18
be
09:18
<ogra>
well, my focus s rather lpia
09:18
i.e. ATOM
09:18
not sure we will see the nonfree drivers in that
09:18
<Solv>
ogra, If I had the patience I woulda waited for the gigabyte m912v...with I imagine the exact package your working on now
09:19
<ogra>
but we will see 10second bootimes in 9.04 with it :)
09:19
<Solv>
OMG
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<cyberorg>
Solv, btw use this repo for kde4 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0/
09:19
<ogra>
thats one of my other duties
09:19
<cyberorg>
then update everything
09:19
<Solv>
cyberorg, yeah good idea
09:19
<ogra>
and ARM support (which i plan to port to LTSP as well)
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<Solv>
what's ARM support?
09:20
<ogra>
never heard of ARM CPUs ?
09:20
<Solv>
nope
09:20* Solv is embarrased
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<ogra>
intel will never reach their power saving states
09:21
with an ARM you can survive about three days on the same battery an ATOM sucks empty in 6h
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<Solv>
that is incredible
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<ogra>
suspend and resume on ARM is instantly ... no 10 second wait, yur screen is usable directly after hitting the power button
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<Solv>
ogra, is it an AMD?
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<ogra>
no
09:22
ARM is what was used i.e. in the old ipaq handhelds
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and is used in 90% of navigation systems
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or mobile phones
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or PDAs
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<Solv>
ah cool...well i hope they get more and more popular...it's nice to knock the big players off their horses sometimes =)
09:23
<ogra>
and hopefully soon in netbooks
09:23
ARM is a big player :)
09:23* Solv is once again embarrased
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<ogra>
just in different areas where CPU arches arent exposed as much as in the PC market
09:23
ARM is *the* embedded architecture since two decades :)
09:24
<Solv>
i reckon the linux/portable computing/google/android combo will give MS a run for it money in the next 5 yrs
09:24
<ogra>
yeah, definately
09:24
it does already though
09:24
<cyberorg>
ogra, "<|dl9pf|> hehe ... ready for ltsp on arm (n810) ? (see bugzilla) :D"
09:24
<Solv>
yeah...but it's not as 'seen'...but when people begin to ditch desktops more and more it will be i guess
09:24
<cyberorg>
ogra, he built image using kiwi and deb-arm
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<ogra>
cyberorg, on debian that should theoretically work today ...
09:25
i think there was an ltsp arm port about two years ago otavio made
09:25
<cyberorg>
debians are very good with arm
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<ogra>
but that was only a one shot thing
09:25
i expect ARM nettops and ARM netbooks in the future though
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<Solv>
a shot in the arm you might say
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<ogra>
ATOM is just a wasteful timg
09:26
*thing
09:26
<Solv>
aw c'mon that was funny :P
09:26
<ogra>
ARM can live with a tenth of the power consumption while providing you the same processing power
09:27
yay, my oatch works :)
09:28* ogra dances
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<ogra>
*patch
09:28
<Solv>
lol
09:28* Solv was thinking...wtf is an oatch?
09:28
<ogra>
i should take some typing lessons
09:28
probably thats why my patches always take multiple attempts :)
09:28
<Solv>
heh
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<ogra>
it was sufficient to write ltsp5 though :)
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<Solv>
ogra, btw i have used ltsp on ubuntu and it is very good....i just happen to be using it on opensuse at home...but for a student environment i setup ubunt with ltsp
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<ogra>
Guest6671, hey johnny
09:30
Solv, cool :)
09:30
johnny, still trying to hide your identity ?
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<Guest6671>
not trying to hide my identify, i turned on nick auto protection
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<Solv>
I don't like to get too hooked on one distro....try em all I say...like a kid in a candy store I am
09:30
<ogra>
yeah
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<Guest6671>
all the distros are too similiar for that matter..
09:31
<ogra>
in the end its all linux :)
09:31
<Guest6671>
except for gentoo :)
09:31
source based vs not
09:31
<Solv>
i ised gentoo for 18 months
09:31
used
09:31
<Guest6671>
hmm.. 6 years here..
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<Solv>
until it couldn't do an update without breaking
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<ogra>
10mins here :)
09:32* ogra once booted a gentoo ppc livecd to take a look :)
09:32
<johnny>
Solv, that's what teaches you how to fix linux
09:32
<Solv>
johnny, yes it is
09:32
<johnny>
it's easy to fix any distro once you've played with gentoo enough
09:32
and easy to test out new stuff
09:32* ogra doubts that
09:32
<Solv>
i still use the gentoo wiki to find out how to fix other distro problems
09:32
<johnny>
ogra, you'd be wrong :)
09:33
<Solv>
cause it is incredibly comprehensive
09:33
<ogra>
i dont think you can fix a debian package because you used gentoo
09:33
<Solv>
here we go
09:33
<ogra>
debian is all about policies and using upstream source untouched
09:33
<johnny>
not the packages.. but the software therein
09:33
uhmm.. ogra.. that is gentoo exactly..
09:33
<ogra>
knowing about compiler options doesnt gain you much
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<johnny>
upstream source untouched (for the most part)
09:33
that's the least important thing about gentoo
09:34
i can't count the number of itmes i'd have to pretend to be using gentoo to fix ubuntu bugs
09:34
to get help from knowledgeable people
09:34
<Solv>
ogra, all the config file and init setup options, building your own kernel etc etc
09:34
<laga_>
i always build with -Omgigosofast anyways
09:34
<johnny>
i'm -O2
09:34
that's it..
09:34
<laga_>
congrats for leaving out -pipe then ;)
09:34
<johnny>
lol
09:34
i have -pipe still..
09:34
<ogra>
Solv, right, nothing you do on a debian system
09:34
<johnny>
ogra.. that's like the tiniest thing about using gentoo
09:35
.1 %
09:35
<Solv>
well you might want to build your own kernel on a debian system...say to use a realtime patch for example?
09:35
<ogra>
Solv, debian is all about policies and knowing the packaging ...
09:35
building an own kernel is just a waste
09:35
<johnny>
ogra.. don't spout about what you don't know please
09:35
<ogra>
its all modular, you need to know the tools, not the code
09:36
on debian or ubuntu at least
09:36
<Solv>
not true...i had a kernel in gentoo with only the stuff for my hardwre built in...no extra modules no bloat...booted lightning quick
09:36
<ogra>
i know exactly one purpose where i would propose to build your own kernel ... that would be realtime support
09:36
<Solv>
ogra...like i just said =)
09:36
<johnny>
building the kernel is easy ..
09:36
<ogra>
Solv, see an that wouldnt work with ubuntu for example
09:37
<johnny>
but once again..
09:37
<Solv>
johnny, yeah but i never would've bothered to learn how if i didn't use gentoo
09:37
that's my point...
09:37
<ogra>
using a non modular kernel in times of uev is very very painful
09:37
*udev
09:37
<johnny>
sure.. i use modules
09:37
<ogra>
johnny, that was Solv's point
09:37
<johnny>
if i think i might aquire some piece of hardware i leave it on
09:37
<Solv>
ogra...yeah things have changed....
09:37
<johnny>
i don't agree with solv's point per se
09:38
that's not how i do it
09:38
i just turn off crap i know i'll never have
09:38
<ogra>
usually the core kernel is having the proper options set at compile time
09:38
<Solv>
johnny, no my actual point was that gentoo makes you learn liinux
09:38
<johnny>
like scsi drivers
09:38
<ogra>
all you need to know is the magic of blacklisting or adding modules nowadays
09:38
there is really no need to recompile the core
09:38
<Solv>
not whether building modules or not building them was the best way to go
09:39
<johnny>
i always build modules.. except for ide
09:39
or sta
09:39
sata*
09:39
<ogra>
why ?
09:39
<Solv>
ogra, blacklisting just feels messy
09:39
<johnny>
ogra, so i can boot with orwithout intramfs
09:39
i don't always use lvm
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or an intramfs
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<Solv>
yeah i never used to boot with initramfs
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<johnny>
i just started to.. cuz of lvm
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<Solv>
i'm too dumb to use lvm
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<johnny>
but before that, it was unnecessary
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<ogra>
<3 initramfs
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<johnny>
i was easy to setup
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it*
09:40
ogra, as far as the nick auto protect goes
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<ogra>
there woudnt be ltsp5 without initramfs ;)
09:40
<johnny>
this guy keeps joining ubuntu
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as johnny
09:40
<ogra>
not even 4.x :)
09:40
<johnny>
#ubuntu
09:41
he's got autojoin.. and never speaks
09:41
<Solv>
so anyway...i love gentoo...but over the time spent on it, love opensuse the look and feel...love the simplicity of ubuntu...love the speed and ingenuiety of puppy...love the stability of knoppmyth...
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<ogra>
well, if you have registered you can just ghost him
09:41
<johnny>
sure.. but then i have to keep ghosting him
09:41
i'd rather him not using the nick at all
09:41
<ogra>
ping him, tell him
09:41
<johnny>
the real problem.. is that ejabberd's irc transport
09:41
did that.. more than once
09:41
doesn't let you set a nickserv password :(
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and gajim takes over the /nick handling in a muc room :(
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which doesn't map directly to irc's /nick when connected that way
09:42
problem a bug in the transport
09:42
<Solv>
i use xchat...don't like any of the other irc clients i've tried
09:42
<johnny>
maybe i'll learn enough erlang to fix it..
09:42
Solv, i don't use irc directly anymore
09:43
use it via my jabber server
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<Solv>
johnny, ah yeah i see...
09:43
never got into jabber
09:43
<johnny>
you're missing out
09:43
it's the future..
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<Solv>
what else does it do? other than give you connections to msn and what not
09:44
<rjune>
Unification is the big one.
09:44
but it turns IM into a service which is defined and documented like email.
09:44
There are a lot of interesting things companies can do with it.
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logs, etc.
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<Solv>
I can't keep up with all the new friggin programs popping up...and social networking sites
09:45
<rjune>
Jabber ain't new
09:45
it's 10 years old.
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<Solv>
like people don't even remember what myspace is anymore...and now twitters come along to rival facebook
09:46
i heard about jabber a couple of years ago...i think i downloaded it but i can't remember why i don't use it
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i mean chose not to use it
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<johnny>
probably cuz you had no buddies
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<Solv>
lol
09:47
<johnny>
i use it for AIM too now
09:47
<Solv>
it's true...I'm so lame
09:47
<johnny>
got a aim transport
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<johnny>
now thanks to gmail..
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i have quite a few jabber contacts
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<Solv>
so it logs onto google chat too
09:47
?
09:47
<johnny>
no
09:47
google chat is jabber
09:47
google talk rahter..
09:47
<Solv>
yeah
09:47
oh i see....cool
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<johnny>
it's federated.. like email..
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<Solv>
i can see how it would be useful...but I would need the time to look into and use it...there are so many other things to learn and do...you gotta pick and choose sometimes
09:49
like i needa go to bed!
09:49
cyas
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<Q-FUNK>
ace_suares: here?
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<baba_melone>
Hi, I wanna partition my laptop, so I bootet into my ltsp system. But when switching to session 1, no hard disk device files are available
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<baba_melone>
Hi, I wanna partition my laptop, so I bootet into my ltsp system. But when switching to session 1, no hard di
11:32
sk device files are available
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lspci shows me the devices of my laptop+
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<yanu>
fdisk -l
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<baba_melone>
but there is no /dev/sda or hda
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nothing
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fdisk -l shows nothing
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<yanu>
try knoppix-cd, or knoppix-terminal-server
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every livecd will work, i suppose
11:35
<baba_melone>
no
11:35
None of the live cds I tried work with that laptop
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even not those with acpi disabled
11:35
<yanu>
so, the laptop is the problem ?
11:35
<baba_melone>
for the live cds
11:36
yeah
11:36
I wanna partition my laptop
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<yanu>
with knoppix, i always use 'knoppix 2' at boottime (no graphical screen)
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<baba_melone>
Unfortunately I do not have a knoppix live cd here
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and I did this once before, use ltsp to partition another pc
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but I cant remember the steps I took
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<yanu>
to partition a harddisk, the system needs to recognize the hardware
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<baba_melone>
so it doesnt recognize the hw?
11:38
<yanu>
probably there is a problem recognizing the chip that controls the hd
11:38
probably, if 'fdisk -l' doesn't show a thing, then ...
11:39
maybe you need a live-cd with the latest kernel ?
11:39
is the laptop 'very' new?
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<baba_melone>
its not very new
11:39
2 years old
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<yanu>
hmm, hardware-problem
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<baba_melone>
there is even no /dev/cdrom
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and this should work I think
11:42
<yanu>
uhu, wierd
11:42
<baba_melone>
yeah
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<gate_keeper_>
does anybody tried to setup SIP for ltsp clients
13:27
any recommends for client?
13:27
no idea that ekiga will work with a lots of sessions
13:27
Spark sip plugin isn't support Linux :/
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<Egyptian[Home]>
stupid question but is qumranet ltsp based?
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<warren>
Egyptian[Home]: nothing to do with each other
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Egyptian[Home]: although SPICE has potential to do something similar.
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<Egyptian[Home]>
warren thanks
23:28
umm.. warren = wtogami?
23:29* Egyptian[Home] is please to meet you and all these open source stars! :)
23:29* Egyptian[Home] sees a full moon too!
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