IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 29 December 2012   (all times are UTC)

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07:02
<ltspuser_88>
Hello
07:02
<alkisg>
Hello
07:02
!localdev
07:02
<ltsp>
localdev: (#1) Information regarding using pluggable devices and cdroms with LTSP can be found at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev, or (#2) for ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices, or (#3) for debian-edu: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/LocalDeviceLtspfs, or (#4) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev
07:02
<alkisg>
!forget localdev #1
07:02
<ltsp>
Error: There is no such factoid.
07:02
<ltspuser_88>
I am going to setup ltsp and i need your help
07:02
<alkisg>
!forget localdev 1
07:02
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
07:03
<ltspuser_88>
there?
07:03
<alkisg>
ltspuser_88: go ahead and ask what you want, don't mind me, I'm just doing some bot maintainance
07:04
<ltspuser_88>
Okay thanks...in my ltsp client I have only led monitor ...to connect keyboard,mouse and internet wire what should i use ?
07:06
<alkisg>
...a computer? I didn't understand the question
07:07
<ltspuser_88>
Now i can see in your website disklessworkstation that we need a linux based thin client device
07:08
<alkisg>
ltspuser_88: LTSP is a project, disklessworkstations.com is a company - they're not the same thing
07:08
Almost ALL people here DON'T work for disklessworkstations
07:09
<ltspuser_88>
Okay sorry...I have one local thin client device NC600 ,I want to know if it will work with ubuntu+ltsp
07:09
NC600(company name ncom)
07:10
<alkisg>
I don't see why it wouldn't, it should work fine
07:10
Any desktop PC can also work as a thin client
07:11
<ltspuser_88>
Okay
07:11
I will work on it now thank you
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07:39
<alkisg>
!umount
07:39
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'umount', but I do know about these similar topics: 'ubuntu'
07:39
<alkisg>
!unmount
07:39
<ltsp>
Error: "unmount" is not a valid command.
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08:13
<knipwim>
alkisg: i was looking at the help2man thing
08:13
i'm not really sure, but the best thing would probably be to integrate that in a makefile
08:13
i guess
08:23
<alkisg>
knipwim: it sounds good to me, but I don't have much experience with makefiles...
08:24
A makefile could even generate localized help pages, if available
08:26
<knipwim>
yes, if the tools are localized, the makefile should support that
09:06
on ubuntu, the manpages also go in /usr/share/man ?
09:07
make sets them in /usr/local/share/man by default
09:21
<alkisg>
knipwim: they _only_ go in /usr/share/man
09:21
<knipwim>
hmm, must be some configure setting then
09:21
<alkisg>
I think there are some ways to tell `make` that you want /usr/local instead of /usr/
09:21
Right, ./configure --prefix something maybe
09:21
<knipwim>
it's my first time doing makefiles as well
09:22
was looking at the version string now
09:22
and whether to have --version options for each tool, or setting the version in the makefile from release.conf
09:23
<alkisg>
I think the latter
09:23
help2man supports a --version parameter, I didn't know that when I filed the bug report about help2man
09:23
<knipwim>
help2man -o ltsp-info.1 --version-string="5.4.4" ltsp-info works
09:52
<alkisg>
Hmm cups doesn't seem to like "ServerName server" in /etc/cups/client.conf, it needs an IP there to work
09:52
So printing from fat clients and from localapps seems to currently be broken, unless someone defines CUPS_SERVER=ip
09:53
Ah, and probably that part broke when we fixed the ssh keys by setting LDM_SERVER=server instead of ip
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10:08
<alkisg>
Although `man client.conf` says that ServerName can be a hostname, so it should be working...
10:08* alkisg googles for cups bugs...
10:09
<alkisg>
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525910
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10:11
<alkisg>
Eh
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10:11
<alkisg>
Fun... if the LTSP server is actually named "server", then it works! :D
10:12
The error does show up in the server /var/log/cups/error_log as well: E [29/Dec/2012:12:11:59 +0200] Request from "192.168.67.243" using invalid Host: field "server"
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12:13
<alkisg>
fany: γράψε /j #ts.sch.gr
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12:32
<knipwim>
nice, i got the version from release.conf
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17:19
<markit>
alkisg: btw, I've tried gnome fallback and unity... unity seems to work fine, did you "dropped" because of it's strange interface or for performances/other problems? And how can I set lts.conf to use gnome shell instead? (just curious to see how it is)
17:24
btw, in syslog I see Can't open authorization file /etc/ltsp/nbd-server.allow (No such file or directory). hope is not a problem
17:43
<alkisg>
Unity, where? In thin or fat clients?
17:44
!gnome-shell
17:44
<ltsp>
gnome-shell: To select gnome-shell as your default session, put this line in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=gnome"
17:48* alkisg is trying to find some workaround for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1078679 ...
18:00
<alkisg>
markit: canonical had dropped support for unity-2d so we didn't want to rely on it
18:00
Unfortunately, gnome dropped support for fallback a bit later
18:00
But in any case, unity does seem extremely buggy + unusable from a HCU prespective...
18:08
<knipwim>
alkisg: should i put the current man page "author" part in the scripts also?
18:18
or else each package has its own include
18:21
<alkisg>
knipwim: I don't think the manpages need a separate author if they're autogenerated
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<alkisg>
We can either put some stock text there, "copyright the ltsp authors", or omit it completely
18:22
Or even "autogenerated from the script source code with help2man etc etc"
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<markit>
how can I know what kind of gnome session I'm in? looks the same than fallback
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