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Channel log from 12 August 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<JonNoob>
I need help... sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start, says fail. But my client still recieve a IP from the server. It seems like another dhcp server is running on the server, but it gives the wrong IP to the clients. I am running Edubuntu Feisty i386
03:39
Please.. Doesn't anybody have 5 min. to help me?
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<JonNoob>
Please help... My dhcp server won't start. I am running edubuntu feisty.
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<K_O-Gnom>
ogra: little question (and not ltsp hope you want help me) did you know how to setup distcc? (or did any body other know ? )
06:30
<JonNoob>
Please help... My dhcp server won't start. I am running edubuntu feisty.
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<EXP2>
how you add a local scanner in ltsp5?
09:16
i have looked for documentation about that, but no solution
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<BlackDark>
EXP2, I don't know if it could help, but a scanner is similar to a printer, so you could take a look how to setup a local printer and trying to set it up like that
09:22
<vagrantc>
"sane" is what you'd need to set up scanners.
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<EXP2>
i have done chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 and installed sane to there
09:41
does anyone made scanners work in ltps5?
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<Mineque>
hello everybody
10:21
i've got little problem with my ltsp4
10:22
host os: gentoo
10:25
ltsp 4.2
10:25
when i run app which eat little more cpu/mem client get freezy
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<Mineque>
and i can only powerdown it
10:25
and log once again
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10:28
<Mineque>
any idea of reason?
10:38
<K_O-Gnom>
if i want to shutdown the ltsp client machine how can i do that?
10:43
<Mineque>
K_O-Gnom: from client or from server?
10:44
<K_O-Gnom>
Mineque: from client
10:45
<Mineque>
just logout and press for a while power button ;]
10:46
<K_O-Gnom>
Mineque: ok thats what i thought ..
10:46
how can i test my sound ? (the local one)
10:47
i compiled the ltsp with the esd and the soundfile use flag ..
10:47
<Mineque>
K_O-Gnom: running some audio app?
10:47
<K_O-Gnom>
Mineque: click the test button in gnome audio settings and got a error..
10:48
<Mineque>
have you got esd configured in lts.conf
10:48
<K_O-Gnom>
Mineque: i set the "SOUND = Y" option in ltsp.conf
10:49
Mineque: in my distro specific howto there is written ther is a sound package in our package manager ... but i dint find anything .. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml <-- the howto
10:50
<Mineque>
SOUND = Y
10:50
SOUND_DAEMON = esd
10:50
you should have both
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<K_O-Gnom>
Mineque: ther is nothing written in the ltsp official doc about the sound_daemon = esd option :-/
10:55
crap i killed my lts.conf .. (luckywise i have it on the screen from a right bevore closed nano ...)
10:55
<sbalneav>
Which version of ltsp?
10:56
<K_O-Gnom>
so i can copy paste it ..
10:56
sbalneav: 4.2 i think
10:56
yes 4.2-r1
10:57
ok dont work i think ..
10:57
<sbalneav>
Have you seen this?
10:57
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
10:58
<K_O-Gnom>
no ..
11:00
<Mineque>
i found reason of freezing...
11:00
on wiki...
11:00
;]
11:01
K_O-Gnom: you need to restart your terminal after editing lts.conf
11:01
brb testing swap ;)
11:01
<K_O-Gnom>
hmm ok i have to install esd or alsa or some other stuff on the server for redirecting it to the client
11:01
Mineque: i know
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<K_O-Gnom>
dberkholz: are you here?
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<K_O-Gnom>
hmmm
11:04
ive got the esound init script on my server .. but it wont start ..
11:05
if i start it directly over the esound-esd app it says /dev/dsp no such device or dir ..
11:05
how did i get the /dev/dsp device?
11:07
<sbalneav>
Well, the /dev/dsp is on the client, is that where you're looking?
11:07
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: on the client its there but on the server not ..
11:07
<vagrantc>
K_O-Gnom: echo $ESPEAKER
11:08
<sbalneav>
You don't need on on the server
11:08
The server's gnome session will forward it's sound via the ESPEAKER variable to the esd running on the client.
11:08
<vagrantc>
many apps assume /dev/dsp if nothing tells them otherwise
11:08
<K_O-Gnom>
and in the conf.d file from esound iss written you have to start esound on boot, if you want to use it over network
11:09
vagrantc: echo $ESPEAKER on the client says nothing
11:09
<vagrantc>
esound is usually started in gnome by default, though i can't make any promises with gentoo, as i use debian
11:09
<sbalneav>
Morning vagrantc
11:09
<vagrantc>
howdy :)
11:10
<K_O-Gnom>
vagrantc: so esound will start on the client and thats all? how can i have sound from the server then?
11:10
<Mineque>
oh yeees
11:10
no freezyy
11:10
thank you guys for swap :D
11:10
<K_O-Gnom>
in my gnome audiosettings there is only written autodetect ..
11:11
<vagrantc>
K_O-Gnom: it seems like your ESPEAKER variable isn't set
11:12
<K_O-Gnom>
how can i set it?
11:12
<vagrantc>
K_O-Gnom: ESPEAKER is where you tell it to connect to your thin client's sound hardware
11:12
!sound
11:12
<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
11:12
<sbalneav>
K_O-Gnom: First of all, what server are you hosting this on, what distro?
11:12
<vagrantc>
K_O-Gnom: try those instructions
11:13
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: its gentoo the server
11:14
<sbalneav>
ok, You're gouing to have to use the server side packages it lists there as a starting point, and play around a but.
11:14
the ESPEAKER variable must be defined everywhere in your session, which means usually at login time, somehow.
11:15
Sound on ltsp 4.2 was very "do it yourself"-ish, as every distro was different, and usually required some playing around to get it going.
11:17
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: did i have to install some sound drivers /sound systems on the server?
11:17
<sbalneav>
In my experience, you shouldn't NEED sound drivers on the server, however, I'm unfamiliar with gentoo, so YMMV
11:18
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: on the server i havent a /dev/dsp ... so i cant start the esound init script .. may that be a problem?
11:20
<sbalneav>
As far as I know, you don't need esound to start on the server at all: the ESPEAKER variable will tell anything that needs esound to forward the sounds over the network to the remote esd daemon: as I've said a couple of times now.
11:20
The wiki sound document's a big one: have you read it ALL yet?
11:21
<Mineque>
sbalneav: do you know what is status of ltsp5 for gentoo?
11:21
<sbalneav>
dberkholz has been working on it, I don't know where it's at.
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<sbalneav>
ok, off for breakfast
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<Mineque>
breakfast? :D
11:27
10h ago :P
11:31
<K_O-Gnom>
Mineque: here too :-)
11:31
hmm the descripted file ltsp-sound.sh dont works here ..
11:31
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound (dont find the ltspinfo file ..
11:33
k found it and changed the path in the script .. now it say could not open connection to 192168.0.51:9200: The Argument is wrong (and the missing . iss no mistake from me ...)
11:35
<Mineque>
hmm
11:36
there is no dot in ip
11:37
<K_O-Gnom>
Mineque: i know ..
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<K_O-Gnom>
somebody here whos hosting a ltsp on a gentoo ?
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<K_O-Gnom>
nobody here who can help me with my sound on a gentoo machine?
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<K_O-Gnom>
dberkholz: ping!
13:02
wich distro needs very less ltsp config? and runs kde?
13:06
<spackle>
K_O-Gnom: k12ltsp can do that
13:07
<K_O-Gnom>
spackle: where can i cat it?
13:07
s/cat/get
13:07
<spackle>
http://www.k12ltsp.org/
13:08
I think it runs gnome by default but switching to KDE is pretty trivial.
13:10
<K_O-Gnom>
spackle: woop 6 disks reminds me on suse ;-)
13:13
spackle: didt k12ltsp have a grafical config tool
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<toonix>
Hello, is it possible to unmount a local device on a thin client without being root?
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<vagrantc>
K_O-Gnom: kubuntu should be fairly easy to getworking with LTSP as well
13:56
though support for gnome is better
13:56
K_O-Gnom: actually, skolelinux supports LTSP and KDE out of the box ...
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<K_O-Gnom>
vagrantc: thx ill try k12ltsp first and if that isnt anything ill try skolelinux ..
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<vagrantc>
K_O-Gnom: http://skolelinux.org
14:01
also http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Download
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<dberkholz>
K_O-Gnom: pong
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<K_O-Gnom>
dberkholz: can you help me getting my sound working on ltsp on gentoo?
15:40
<dberkholz>
K_O-Gnom: sorry, i can't help you with ltsp4
15:40
<K_O-Gnom>
crap ..
15:40
<dberkholz>
shouldn't be much different whatever distro you're running it on
15:40
<K_O-Gnom>
dberkholz: oh i think gentoo iss very different
15:41
and i dont know what to do ..
15:42
dberkholz: how long do you think will it take to get ltsp5 on gentoo? (i think your working on)
15:43
<dberkholz>
K_O-Gnom: i can't really give you a solid estimate, because i haven't had a whole lot of time to work on it lately
15:44
<K_O-Gnom>
dberkholz: ok so it will take a cupple of month ... and i have to try get 4.2 runnin ..
15:44
and i have no idea how it will work ..
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<K_O-Gnom>
dberkholz: little question .. did i have to start the esound init script on the server?
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<melinate>
hey folks, anyone around that might be able to help a newbie?
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<cliebow>
melinate:zup?
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<vagrantc>
melinate: just go ahead and start asking questions ... if people know the answers, they'll jump in.
18:18
<cliebow>
and if they dont know..they'll jump in too
18:18
8~)
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<moquist>
whiprush_: ping
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<melinate>
cliebow or others: I have an edubuntu server running dhcp, tftp and ltsp. an edubuntu workstation can find the dhcp, but the PXE boot cannot.... any ideas?
18:33
<K_O-Gnom>
melinate: did you server your ip adresses by mac adresses?
18:34
<whiprush_>
moquist: yo
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<moquist>
whiprush_: catch my PM?
18:37
<whiprush_>
no, I don't think you got mine either
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<moquist>
am now
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<melinate>
K_O-Gnom: I'm not sure what you mean... in edubuntu everything is as automatic as it can be. The dhcp does not have mac specific configuration if that is what you mean
18:42
<K_O-Gnom>
melinate: yes thats what i mean ... i thought maybe your mac in the dhcp is wrong ..
18:46
<melinate>
K_O-Gnom: the HP Vectra's I'm using as clients have two network boot options. PXE and TCP/IP
18:47
I thought PXE should be the right option, but if I pick TCP/IP it appears the DHCP resolves and the TFTP downloads and then nothing
18:48
<K_O-Gnom>
melinate: no error text or something?
18:51
<melinate>
K_O-Gnom: when I choose PXE is says "No DHCP or proxyDHCP found" and using the default dhcp config with the TCP/IP option I get "Image file too large for low memory"
18:52
K_O-Gnom: actually to be more precise the error was "PXE-E51: No DHCP or proxyDHCP offers were received. The client did not receive any valid DHCP, BOOTP or proxyDHCP offers."
18:53
<K_O-Gnom>
melinate: hmm ok so you must get pxe working ... hmm sry but i dont know how it will work .. im also a newbie like you ..
18:54
<melinate>
K_O-Gnom: okay thanks for the help then... so from what you know it sounds like my NIC won't work for the TCP/IP option? That's why you said I much get PXE working right?
18:55
<K_O-Gnom>
melinate: i think the ltsp boot image is a pxe boot image and that wont work with tcp/ip ..
18:55
melinate: i only THINK that i dont know if it THINK right ..
18:55
<melinate>
anyone know how I can determine the settings I need to make rom-o-matic.net work?
18:57
K_O-Gnom: the DHCP config loads two different boot images based on the client name. if the client name starts with "PXEClient" then it chooses pxelinux.0 otherwise it uses nbi.img
19:01
<K_O-Gnom>
hmm i know but i dont know how that would hurts you ..
19:02
did somebody know why the ltsp-sound file from ltsp.org wiki says "couldn't open connection to 192168.0.51:9200: the argumant is wrong" (the missing dot in the ip is a missing dot in the errortext i dont know if its missing in the script too ..)
19:02
<melinate>
I didn't know what type of images the nbi.img is... that's all
19:05
<K_O-Gnom>
when i click the "test" button in the gnome audio settings (i select esd before) i got the folloing error message "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 | audioconvert | audioresample | gconfaudiosink: could not establish connection to sound server" did sombody know why that occures and/or how i can solve this error?
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<K_O-Gnom>
wb sbalneav
19:17
sbalneav: i think i got one step closer to the solution of my sound problem ..
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<cliebow>
melinate:sbalneav is happy to look your dhcpd.conf over if you paste it..Yoy'll never have a better chance to resolve the priob
19:18
!pastebot
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<ltspbot`>
cliebow: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: did you know what this message mean ? (i klick on the test button of my clients gnome audio setting and recieve it ..) "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 | audioconvert | audioresample | gconfaudiosink: could not establish connection to sound server"
19:20
<sbalneav>
Yeah, it couldn't establish a connection to the sound server.
19:21
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: did you know a solution?
19:21
<sbalneav>
Sure
19:21
Fix the connection problem
19:21
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: would you tell it to me?
19:21
sbalneav: how?
19:21
<melinate>
cliebow & sbalneav: thanks, working on the pastebin now
19:21
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: the env variable $ESPEAKER issnt set ..
19:22
sbalneav: but on boot it says - accepting connections on port 16001
19:22
<sbalneav>
K_O-Gnom: Well, if it's not set, then that's your problem
19:22
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: it dont work if i set it manualy ..
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<sbalneav>
Of course it wont.
19:22
Because you're only setting it in that terminal
19:23
You need to set it at login time so that Gnome knows about it.
19:23
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: ok how can i set it global (for testing)
19:23
<sbalneav>
You said you were running gentoo?
19:23
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: yes
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<sbalneav>
Does gentoo have an /etc/X11/Xsession.d directory, where startup scripts for X can be placed
19:24
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: i dont know i look for it
19:24
<cliebow>
nust be a gentooista round here somewhere..
19:24
<K_O-Gnom>
hmm no i havent a Xsession dir ..
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<sbalneav>
Ok, so where DOES gentoo put xsession startup files?
19:25
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: i think i cann place a xinitrc file in ~ .. does that work?
19:25
sbalneav: i dont know :-)
19:26
<sbalneav>
Then, you know what you need to find out.
19:26
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: wayting for answer on an other chan
19:26
:-)
19:26
sbalneav: do you mean sys base or user base?
19:27
<sbalneav>
Globally would be better.
19:27
<K_O-Gnom>
so sysbase ..
19:32
sbalneav: did a gdm auto start file also work?
19:33
<sbalneav>
No idea. I have no idea how gentoo's laid out. Do they have a general Xsession script that starts gnome?
19:34
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: xdm starts gdm what is starting gnome i THINK .. (little newb :-/ )
19:34
<sbalneav>
No, that's not right.
19:34
You're either running xdm or gdm
19:34
one doesn't start the other.
19:35
Is there an /etc/X11 directory in gentoo?
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<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: yes ..
19:36
how is the Xsession.d file written? then i tryout if that works .
19:36
<sbalneav>
I there an /etc/X11/Xsession script?
19:36
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: there is an /etc/X11/Sessions/Xsession script ..
19:37
<sbalneav>
What's in /etc/X11/Sessions?
19:37
<K_O-Gnom>
2 files Gnome and Xsession
19:39
<sbalneav>
ok, is Gnome a script?
19:39
Can you edit it?
19:39
<K_O-Gnom>
think yes
19:40
Note : you might also want to add "export ESPEAKER=diskless" in the ~/.xsession of the user(s) who will use the diskless <-- that comes from http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Diskless_X_terminal_with_read-only_root
19:40
ill try that ..
19:42
sbalneav: you can find that line at the bottom of the howto ..
19:44
<sbalneav>
Have you downloaded ltsp 4.2, or are you using the gentoo supplied ltsp?
19:44
Do you know shell scripting?
19:45
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: i use the gentoo supplied ltsp ..
19:45
sbalneav: and i know nearby nothing about shell scripting ..
19:46
<sbalneav>
Gentoo did their own thing with ltsp 4.1. I'd follow gentoo howto's for how to set it up.
19:46
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: i follow them .. and on the soundconfig they all write ... ther is a ltsp-sound pakage in portage install it and all will work ... but ther ISNT any package ..
19:47
<sbalneav>
ok, then that's an issue for the #gentoo channel then.
19:47
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: hmm ..
19:47
<sbalneav>
I'd ask some gentoo people where that package is.
19:48
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: i think there isnt any one ..
19:48
<sbalneav>
You *think*
19:49
You don't know for sure.
19:49
That's why I'd ask someone on gentoo.
19:49
I mean, if their doco says "install this package from portage", it must have been there at some point.
19:50
K_O-Gnom: Or, you could just ditch gentoo, and install a distro that works, like Debian or Ubuntu.
19:51
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: yes thats my last anchor ..
19:51
<jammcq>
maybe a better way to say that is "install a distro that SUPPORTS ltsp"
19:51
Gentoo did their own thing and didn't keep it maintained
19:52
<sbalneav>
Another option would be to contact dberkholz and see how he's coming along with the ltsp5 port to gentoo.
19:52
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: i asked him and he said it will take a while because of to less time to work on ..
19:53
<sbalneav>
Well, then I'd find out why that package isn't there then.
19:53
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: yes ..
19:53
sbalneav: or try to set the env var globaly ..
19:54
<sbalneav>
For that, you're going to need some shell scripting abilities, as you'll have to try to patch the ltsp-sound.sh script that the wiki page tells you to download into the Gnome script.
19:54
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: hmm thats to hard for me ..
19:56
sbalneav: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml#doc_chap5 <-- FAQ the last question/answer
19:56
<sbalneav>
ok, so like I say: get that package installed.
19:57
and if you can't find where that package is, that's the problem you need to solve.
20:01
<K_O-Gnom>
so espeaker is set ..
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<K_O-Gnom>
ok so $ESPEAKER is set ... but it dont works same error again ..
20:03
<sbalneav>
set to WHAT?
20:03
open a fresh terminal window
20:03
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: ip:16001
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<sbalneav>
type env | grep ESPEAKER
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paste the result
20:04
<Q-FUNK>
howdy!
20:04
<sbalneav>
Hey Q-FUNK
20:05
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: cant paste type it ESPEAKER=192.168.0.51:16001
20:05
hi Q-FUNK
20:05
<sbalneav>
ok, so telnet 192.168.0.52 16001
20:05
Does something answer?
20:06
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: first boot the client again :-)
20:06
sbalneav: telnet from server?
20:06
<sbalneav>
yep
20:06
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: hmm dont have telnet :-/ ..
20:07
<sbalneav>
Whacky, whacky gentoo
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<Q-FUNK>
heh
20:09
<ryudo>
somebody can help me?
20:10
<sbalneav>
ryudo: Dunno, what's your problem?
20:10
<ryudo>
i have a UBUNTU 7.04 wich ltsp5, and the terminal boot is so slow
20:10
sorry , my english is so poor
20:11
boot delay for 2 minutes, my terminals are Cleron 333 wich 64 MB SDR
20:11
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: did you mean telnet 192.168.0.51:16001?
20:11
<sbalneav>
no
20:12
telnet 192.168.0.51 16001
20:12
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: tells me unable to connect to remote host: connection refused ..
20:12
<sbalneav>
ryudo: Are you saying it takes two minutes to boot, or the boot stops for two minutes?
20:13
<K_O-Gnom>
with : between ip and port it says name or service not known ..
20:13
<ryudo>
take 2 minutes ! :(
20:13
<sbalneav>
K_O-Gnom: ok, so esd isn't being started on the terminal
20:13
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: on the boot it says it accept connections ...
20:14
<sbalneav>
Well, it isn't
20:14
:)
20:14
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: hmm ok how can i solve this prob?
20:14
<ryudo>
sbal my terminal boot take 2 minutes
20:15
<sbalneav>
ryudo: Does it boot though?
20:15
Can you log in?
20:15
K_O-Gnom: You'll have to make sure esd is starting on the terminal.
20:15
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: how?
20:16
<sbalneav>
Dude.
20:16
Go back and read the wiki page.
20:16
There's a trouble shooting section.
20:17
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: i set the sound=Y and sound_DAEMON=esd in the lts.conf file ..
20:17
<ryudo>
yes after 2 minutes I obtain the LDM login screen
20:17
<sbalneav>
ok
20:17
So, it's just a little slow.
20:17
We're re-writing some of the bits in ltsp5 in C to make things faster.
20:18
K_O-Gnom: There's stuff in the troubleshooting section about setting a shell on SCREEN_O2
20:19
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: i running atm at the shell
20:19
<sbalneav>
ok
20:19
so... follow the troubleshooting guide
20:19
<ryudo>
ahhh
20:19
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: wich one do you mean?
20:19
<sbalneav>
The one on the wiki page.
20:20
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: this one=
20:20
?
20:20
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
20:20
<sbalneav>
Yep.
20:20
<ryudo>
sbalneav thank you
20:21
<sbalneav>
NP
20:21
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: cant find anything about starting esd manualy ..
20:22
<sbalneav>
Is esd running?
20:22
<ryudo>
sbalneav you can help me with another problem?
20:22
<sbalneav>
Possibly, what's the problem?
20:23
<ryudo>
my Ubuntu 7.04+ltsp5 it is freezing intermittently
20:23
<sbalneav>
The server freezes, or the thin client freezes?
20:23
<ryudo>
I check my memory's HD and processor Temp ... and nothing
20:24
i I find that he is ubuntu in itself
20:24
<sbalneav>
What's freezing? The server? Or the thin client?
20:25
<ryudo>
the server
20:25
<sbalneav>
What kind of server is it?
20:25
<ryudo>
the mouse or keyboard don't responding
20:25
freeze totaly
20:26
syslog or messages dont report nothing
20:26
<K_O-Gnom>
sbalneav: THX its running an playing sound :-) NICE
20:27
sbalneav: edit the rc.sound file by adding -public was the solution
20:27
<Q-FUNK>
K_O-Gnom: you have a THX sound system connected to your thin client?
20:27
<K_O-Gnom>
Q-FUNK: atm not but i ve been able to :-)
20:27
sbalneav: i think a should write a better howto ...
20:28
<Q-FUNK>
better howtos are always appreciated
20:29
<K_O-Gnom>
so next step make the ESPEAKER var set by user or by script .. AND set up everything complete new ...
20:32
<ryudo>
sbalneav ? :(
20:32
<sbalneav>
ryudo: I asked you what kind of server it was. You haven't told me yet.
20:33
<ryudo>
sorry translating
20:33
wait
20:35
Athlon 3700+ sandiego , 2 GB DDR 400 SAMSUNG, 420 W ST, 1 SATA HD 80 GB
20:35
MB = ASUS A8V
20:35
distro = UBUNTU 7.04 32 bits
20:37
<sbalneav>
Maybe you need "noacpi" on the command line.
20:37
<ryudo>
before I used the fedora 6 wich ltsp 4.2 and never server frozen !
20:37
<K_O-Gnom>
good n8 @ all and thx for help
20:38
<ryudo>
hum
20:38
<sbalneav>
Well, fedora's a different distro.
20:38
check in #ubuntu-br
20:38
<ryudo>
acpi can be the cause of intermitent freezes ?
20:38
<sbalneav>
Can be, yes.
20:39
Have you done a bios upgrade on the motherboard
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<sbalneav>
I've had asus mobos with hanging problems, and newer bioses fixed them.
20:40
<ryudo>
really ? is the A8V ?
20:41
<sbalneav>
Not that mobo specifically, but other asus mobos
20:41
<ryudo>
I updating my bios and add noacpi parameter in my menu.lst
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<dberkholz>
jammcq: sbalneav: just fyi, the guy who did ltsp4 in gentoo quit doing gentoo altogether and moved on to other things
20:47
<sbalneav>
ah, ok
20:47
WHere you at with ltsp5?
20:48
<ryudo>
me ?
20:48
<sbalneav>
No, dberkholz :)
20:48
<dberkholz>
sbalneav: working on the client builder. haven't worked at all on the init scripts yet.
20:48
<sbalneav>
cool.
20:49
<dberkholz>
most of the other things that need to get packaged are done
20:49
lsb_release, ltspfs, etc
20:49
<sbalneav>
You wouldn't happen to have a status page somewhere where we could point people to, would you?
20:49
might be a way of attracting some help for you
20:49
<dberkholz>
sbalneav: not really. that's a good idea though, if only to stop answering the same questions over and over
20:49
<sbalneav>
Throw one up on our wiki
20:50
Then we could just put a !gentoo in the bot
20:50
<dberkholz>
i'm doing a bit of research for my wife on how to convert flash to dv atm, so i can't now, but i'll try to get to it later today
20:50
<sbalneav>
Oh, no rush.
20:51
Great that you're continuing to work on it!
20:51
<dberkholz>
surprisingly hard to get something from openoffice impress into imovie
20:52
sbalneav: heh, continuing to not work on it might be a better way to put it. =D
20:53
although i did just do some work in the past week
20:53
<sbalneav>
Either way, so ong as you're continuing. :)
20:55
<ryudo>
sbalneav
20:55
You know as I do for deactivate the protection of screen in all of the terminals, without be necessary deactivate manually in everybody they?
20:56
<sbalneav>
umm
20:56
Are you asking how you turn off screensavers globally? :)
20:56
The translator made a butchery of that one.
20:57
<ryudo>
YES
20:57
sorry
20:57
i'm brazilian :D
20:57
and i dont nothing of english :(
20:58
<jammcq>
ah, Brazil :)
20:58
<ryudo>
:D
20:58
<jammcq>
ryudo: what city in Brazil ?
20:58
<sbalneav>
gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /apps/gnome-screensaver/mode blank-only
20:59
That turns the screensaver into "blank only"
20:59
<ryudo>
São Luis - Maranhão
20:59
<jammcq>
what region is that?
21:00
<ryudo>
disable totaly ? i hate de black screen and after i need put password of the acount
21:00
its a small island
21:00
near of amazonia florest
21:00
<sbalneav>
instead of "blank-only", use "off"
21:01
<ryudo>
hum thank you sbal
21:01
:D
21:06
sbal you know how i make my desktop icons "undeletable" for my users ? my user's can delete de desktop icons like firefox etc ... i odnt like this :(
21:10
sbal ?
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<sbalneav>
ryudo: make them owned by root?
21:24
<ryudo>
opa i'm back "
21:25
no , the icons owned by terminal acount
21:25
for example
21:25
i have 20 terminals and 20 acounts
21:25
terminal01 temrinal02 terminal03 etc
21:25
but the desktop icons of this acount dont have root by owned
21:26
<sbalneav>
Ok, so use chown to make them owned by root
21:28
<ryudo>
but the icons stay wich the padlock on the icons
21:29
<sbalneav>
right
21:29
but they can't be removed now, right?
21:29
<ryudo>
yes ...
21:30
<sbalneav>
That's what you wanted, right?
21:30
<ryudo>
yes
21:30
but
21:30
padlock , locked i can remove this ?
21:30
from icons
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<sbalneav>
No
21:31
<ryudo>
:{
21:31
<sbalneav>
If they're locked, they have a lock on them.
21:33
<ryudo>
icon wich no lock visual has possible ? sorry sbal my english sooo terrible
21:34
<sbalneav>
I don't know. I'm not a gnome expert.
21:34
Ask in #gnome
21:34
Not really an ltsp related question.
21:40
<ryudo>
ok sbal sorry
21:40
but thx again !
21:40
:D
21:40
<sbalneav>
No problem.
21:54
<ryudo>
sbal bye bye my friend
21:54
thx again
21:54
<sbalneav>
Seeya
21:54
<ryudo>
i need sleep now
21:54
:D
21:54
here in brazil its 23:58
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<sbalneav>
jammcq: Say, there's so many places where we keep having to look up the terminal's ip and mac address. I was wondering, should we modify getltspcfg so that it automatically returns a couple of config variables, say TERMINAL_ADDRESS and TERMINAL_MAC, with the ip and mac address?
22:22
That way, everything else can just read those.
22:23
<rjune>
jammcq !
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: so, in addition to returning the settings from lts.conf, it could also return the IP and MAC address ?
23:17
rjune: hey
23:17
<sbalneav>
jammcq: Yes
23:17
Since it looks those up anyway,
23:18
<jammcq>
I think there's 2 modes for getltscfg, it'll get an individual variable, and you can get ALL variables
23:18
I think you'd only want to do that extra bit, when getting ALL variables
23:18
<sbalneav>
Right.
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<jammcq>
now, if only we had somebody who wanted to actually make that change....
23:19
<sbalneav>
I can do it in my tree.
23:19
I just wanted to run it by you first.
23:19
<jammcq>
seems like a reasonable idea
23:19
<sbalneav>
Well, it would save us from re-inventing the wheel in several different places :)
23:34
<rjune>
jammcq:how goes it?
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<jammcq>
rjune: going well. how's things down in Indiana ?
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<tulga>
when I run ltsp-update-sshkeys, I get "WARNING: /opt/ltsp/images/etc/ssh not found. skipping...". is it normal?
23:40
I'm using ubuntu gutsy
23:40
<sbalneav>
tulga: yes
23:41
<tulga>
but I cannot login system. I switched to shell, then tried to login. but I get Login incorrect
23:41
I checked /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/passwd file
23:41
but my users not exists
23:41
<sbalneav>
Have you done an ltsp-update-image?
23:41
<tulga>
yes
23:42
now building client again
23:42
<sbalneav>
Well, unless you created users in the chroot
23:42
you won't be able to log in at the shell prompt
23:42
only at the ldm greeter.
23:43
<tulga>
you mean I cannot login through shell?
23:43
<sbalneav>
Only as root
23:43
and only if you set a root password
23:44
<tulga>
no. I didn't set root password
23:44
ok. howto find where is problem?
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<sbalneav>
When you try logging in, does it say "This workstation isn't authorized to connect to server"?
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<tulga>
no. it said verifying password. please wait
23:48
after 2-3 minutes, I get blank windows with mouse
23:48
so after ~5 minutes, I get ldm again
23:49
<sbalneav>
Is ssh running on the server?
23:49
<tulga>
my server is 192.168.0.1 and client is 192.168.0.254
23:49
yes
23:49
root 7118 0.0 0.0 5276 980 ? Ss 12:05 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
23:49
<sbalneav>
Have you set a SERVER variable in lts.conf?
23:50
<tulga>
no
23:50
I didn't change anything in lts.conf
23:50
<sbalneav>
lts.conf is in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/
23:50
add a SERVER = 192.168.0.1 to the default section.
23:51
As well, set a root password in the chroot, and rebuild the image
23:51
<tulga>
ok. now going client build process
23:51
<vagrantc>
what the hell.
23:51
<tulga>
after that I'll try it
23:51
<vagrantc>
server should default to the NFS server
23:51
<tulga>
howto set root password in the chroot?
23:51
<sbalneav>
chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
23:51
passwd
23:51
<vagrantc>
did all the weird stick lts.conf into tftp screw everything up?
23:52
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: Don't know, I'm just covering bases.
23:52
<vagrantc>
defining SERVER in lts.conf should only be used if your login server is different from the NFS server.
23:52
<tulga>
sbalneav: after ltsp-build-client, what I need to do?
23:53
vagrantc: really?
23:53
<sbalneav>
restrart the terminal
23:53
<vagrantc>
but i don't know what effects ogra's changes with lts.conf did
23:54
with ltsp5, we attempted to make the lts.conf obsolete for the most part. only needed if you need something different from the defaults.
23:57
<sbalneav>
Well, if it isn't that way, we can MAKE it that way, but tulga's playing with gutsy, and there's a chance something may be broken.
23:58
<tulga>
what is best OS for ltsp?
23:58
<sbalneav>
At the moment, either Ubuntu or Debian
23:58
<tulga>
gutsy or feisty?
23:58
<sbalneav>
If you want stable, feisty
23:59
if you want faster-but-may-be-broken, gutsy.
23:59
<tulga>
ok. I chose second
23:59
:)
23:59
<sbalneav>
We're developing right now.
23:59
In fact, I'm editing and commtting now.
23:59
<tulga>
cool