IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 2 October 2018   (all times are UTC)

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11:45
<dgroos>
good morning/aft/eve!
11:45
<alkisg>
Hey dgroos, welcome
11:45
<dgroos>
@alkisg, ping
11:45
<alkisg>
See private window
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11:58
<alkisg>
!nat
11:58
<ltsp>
nat: To set up NAT in your LTSP server, set its internal IP to 192.168.67.1 and put http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/sch-scripts/trunk/view/head:/debian/sch-scripts.if-up to /etc/network/if-up.d/sch-scripts. This also takes care of flow-control issues, possibly increasing your network speed 10 times. :)
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12:27
<dgroos>
@alkisg, ping
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17:38
<alkisg>
vagrantc: hey there, did you see the message about epoptes, "build-depends on: python3 | python3-all | python3-dev | python3-all-dev which is totally unneeded and arguably also wrong."
17:39
Should I revert it to what I originally had there, i.e. python3-distutils-extra, which in turn can depend on whatever it needs?
17:55
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i did not
18:03
alkisg: gah.
18:04
alkisg: it's because the launchpad list rejects certain mails
18:05
alkisg: how did you see it?
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18:36
<alkisg>
vagrantc: I got it two times, first because of this: bugs.debian.org/910095
18:36
and then from the launchpad list, "A message has been posted to the mailing list for your team, but this message requires your approval "
18:47
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i didn't get it at all
18:48
alkisg: are you subscribed to epoptes bugs directly?
18:48* vagrantc was relying on the list subscription, but clearly that doesn't work
19:11
<alkisg>
I think it's the old problem, that launchpad lists only allow their members to post without moderation, so they're not really appropriate for package maintainer addresses
19:11
vagrantc: I would assume that since you are in the epoptes developers team though, you'd at least get a mail prompting you to moderate the new list message
19:12
<vagrantc>
alkisg: no, never got it
19:12
<alkisg>
I'm not sure if I'm additionally directly subscribed to epoptes debian bugs though
19:12
<vagrantc>
but did you moderate the mail trhough?
19:12
<alkisg>
I did that 2 minutes ago
19:12
<vagrantc>
ah
19:12
<alkisg>
vagrantc: do you have access there, after you login? https://launchpad.net/~epoptes/+mailinglist-moderate
19:13
<vagrantc>
alkisg: "Not allowed here"
19:13
<alkisg>
Maybe it's only for the list owner, dunno
19:14
Ah, https://launchpad.net/~epoptes/+members#active => administrator vs approved
19:14
<vagrantc>
seems like we should switch the maintainer address ... can set up a trivial list like with the ltsp packages
19:17
the team+PACKAGE@tracker.debian.org doesn't have an archive history, but we could subscribe epoptes@lists.launchpad.net to it...
19:17* alkisg doesn't really care about public archives there...
19:17
<alkisg>
We don't use the mailing list for support
19:18
Btw, the only subscribers to epoptes@lists.launchpad.net are me, you and fotis
19:18
<vagrantc>
unsurprising :)
19:34
alkisg: in the end, i think we still need to build-depend on python3:any or python3-all:any ... guess the -dev ones are extraneous
19:34
alkisg: since i added that in response to a lintian error
19:34
+E: epoptes source: missing-build-dependency-for-dh-addon python3 => python3:any | python3-all:any | python3-dev:any | python3-all-dev:any
19:34
<alkisg>
vagrantc: how so? Isn't distutils-extra enough to pull all the dependencies it requires to run setup.py?
19:34
Ah, to silence lintian?
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19:35
<vagrantc>
alkisg: it works, but i think it's not future-proof
19:35
something like that
19:35
explicit vs. implicit, etc...
19:35
<elaurencio>
Hello for everyone
19:35
<alkisg>
Hi elaurencio
19:36
vagrantc: for example, if distutils-extra was reimplemented in ruby, we'd still need it, and we wouldn't need python
19:36
Since we don't run any python code ourselves during build, I would assume that the tool that we use would be enough to pull the dependencies it needs
19:36
<vagrantc>
if python3-distutils-extra was reimplemented in ruby, i'd be worried :)
19:37
<alkisg>
But sure, if lintian complains np
19:37
Hehe, true, but I guess you get my point there
19:37
<vagrantc>
indeed
19:37
i think it may help with tracking transitions of various versions or something ... not fully sure of the full rationale
19:38
<elaurencio>
alkisg: can you remember for my question about the local printer in fat client?? I was solved with lts.conf inside the /etc/lts.conf in the image
19:39
<alkisg>
elaurencio: I think I remember it a bit... your solution is wrong, but whatever works for you :)
19:40
<elaurencio>
alkisg: Today I bring here another situation, this time is about the not boot for the fat client because I update the server and the fat client image and freez in the section of set the keyboard layout
19:44
alkisg: I don't know if that is a Ubuntu kernel bug or ltps bug
19:44
<alkisg>
elaurencio: what is the output of this command? sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999
19:44
Also, try to upload a screenshot of the client hanging, e.g. with your mobile phone
19:45
<elaurencio>
alkisg: Where I upload this screenshots ???
19:45
<alkisg>
!screenshot
19:45
<ltsp>
screenshot: to show us a screenshot, upload it to e.g. http://postimg.org and then paste the link here, e.g. http://postimg.org/image/8usr22x29/
19:45
<alkisg>
Nah this doesn't work anymore
19:45
!forget screenshot
19:45
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
19:46
<elaurencio>
I can send you by email if you preferd
19:46
<alkisg>
!learn screenshot as to upload a screenshot use a site like https://prnt.sc/ or https://snag.gy/ and then paste the URL here
19:46
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
19:46
<alkisg>
No, I might leave in a couple of minutes, it's late here
19:46
So someone else in the channel might be able to help you
19:51
<elaurencio>
Okap, I try with other
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20:14
<elaurencio>
Hi again
20:14
I have a problem with boot of my fat client in Ubuntu 18.04
20:15
Some one help me ???
20:15
<vagrantc>
you're going to have to get a lot more specific :P
20:16
<elaurencio>
vagrantc: Okey, I have this situation
20:17
vagrantc: I have 2 server with ltsp in Ubuntu
20:17
vagrantc: Ubuntu 18.04
20:18
vagrantc: The first is not updated sice 2 months ago
20:18
vagrantc: and the second is updated for today
20:18
<vagrantc>
elaurencio: you don't need to target me specifically, just ask the channel
20:18
<elaurencio>
Sorry
20:18
;)
20:19
The fisrt work very fine with no problem
20:19
the client of second no pass in process of boot by the section of set the keyboard layout
20:22
This is the screenshots of the client in the first server
20:23
https://prnt.sc/l1f7bb
20:24
This is the screenshots of the client in the second server
20:25
https://prnt.sc/l1f858
20:25
https://prnt.sc/l1f8ah
20:26
https://prnt.sc/l1f8ln
20:27
I only upgrade the second server and the image client using the apt upgrade command in both side and ltsp-update-image for make a new image for the clients
20:29
I don't know is that situation is a bug of Ubuntu kernel or ltps
20:33
<||cw>
sounds like a corrupt nbd, or the server crashed?
20:34
server has plenty of free space?
20:37
<elaurencio>
https://prntscr.com/l1fcyo
20:38
<||cw>
try biuling the client again?
20:38
<elaurencio>
I recreate again in virtual server all the process, with the same result
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20:39
<elaurencio>
But I try to create again
20:39
<||cw>
and you're using the 18.04 wiki instructions?
20:42
<elaurencio>
I guide by the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
20:43
<||cw>
that's old
20:43
!install
20:43
<ltsp>
install: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu for Ubuntu, or http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation for other distributions
20:56
<elaurencio>
||cw: If I can not use the ppa aditional repositorie, that's mean I can create a ltsp image???
20:56
<||cw>
not on 18.04, the default packages don't work anymore
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20:57
<||cw>
why can't you use the ppa?
20:58
<elaurencio>
||cw: because my proxy parent denied the access for my, I use the mirror of Ubuntu repositorie
20:59
||cw: I install Debian 9 and the image create without problems
20:59
I think that the problem is in Ubuntu and the recently upgrade
20:59
<||cw>
yeah, debian didn't just break a lot of system scripts, ubutnut did
21:02
<elaurencio>
I don't know how is posibble that a simple upgrade (recommended for all Linux system in server) break all
21:02
My fault is not create a copy of local repo with I create the old images
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