IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 9 February 2008   (all times are UTC)

00:04
<RyanRyan52>
vagrantc: should the person have to say the whole path or just the directory name that's in /usr/share/ldm/themes? and should you have to put a separate for GTKRC and PIXMAPS or just THEME that applies to both?
00:05
I have it so it does niether of those but works with GTKRC_DIR and PIXMAPS_DIR using the full path...
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<vagrantc>
RyanRyan52: i'm thinking full path ... but if it's easy to support both ...
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<RyanRyan52>
I'll just leave it with full path...Its not that difficult to type /usr/share/ldm/themes/
00:25
vagrantc: http://llama.freegeek.org/~ryan52/another-patch
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<Ryan52>
vagrantc: I'm going to sleep now...
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<vagrantc>
Ryan52: alright. thanks for the new patch- i'll check it out tomorrow
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<muep_>
hello
01:25
I'm trying to set up the ltsp system in Debian Lenny
01:26
I can't get tftpd-hpa to run
01:26
it silently exits, but this gets into syslog
01:27
http://pastebin.com/d6d417da
01:29* vagrantc would recommend using ltsp from sid at the moment
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<muep_>
tftpd-hpa is the same version there
01:30
<vagrantc>
yes, i know it won't fix *this* issue, but it fixes numerous other issues you haven't gotten to yet :)
01:31
muep_: did you configure tftpd-hpa to run both in /etc/inetd.conf and to run on it's own?
01:31
<muep_>
vagrantc: I just noticed that I have inetd running
01:32
<vagrantc>
by default, tftpd-hpa should just run from inetd
01:32
<muep_>
oh
01:32
<vagrantc>
and not be configured to run on it's own ...
01:32
my guess is somehow it's configured to run from both places, from the sounds of your error message.
01:33
<muep_>
I'll try to poke around a little...
01:33
am not yet familiar to inetd
01:33
thanks for help :-)
01:37
well, it boots now.
01:41* vagrantc sleeps now
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<vagrantc>
muep_: good luck
01:42
<muep_>
thanks
01:42
<vagrantc>
will likely do a new upload of ldm and ltsp in the next week or so
01:43* vagrantc was hoping to wait till the current packages in sid hit lenny, but the mips and mipsel architectures haven't yet built packages... so it's not going into lenny yet :(
01:44* vagrantc sighs
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02:56
<muep_>
the client system now boots quite well
02:56
but it shuts down the display when it starts ltsp-client-core
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and after that it won't accept much input
02:59
ctrl+alt+del reboots it
03:04
well... ldm wasn't installed
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03:22
<muep_>
got it working now. (I can log in.) Had to use a different driver for X
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04:46
<Q-FUNK>
ogra: hey :)
04:46
ogra: would it be possible to use -f wiht the 'rm' statements in /etc/kernel/postrm.d/ltsp-update-kernels ?
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09:00
<jamiej_>
Any one help please. My clients used to log into gnome as the the default session. But now they log into some other even. If I chose gnome then it will login to gnome but if I chose to set it as the default session it does not become default.
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12:21
<dberkholz|bb>
vagrantc: get my email?
12:25
<vagrantc>
dberkholz|bb: yeah ... you on your way? :)
12:25
<dberkholz|bb>
I'm in salem now
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driving and texting
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<vagrantc>
oh
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be safe :)
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<dberkholz|bb>
wilsonville...
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<dberkholz|bb>
vagrantc: hey, I'm here.
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<johnny>
awesome
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<dberkholz|bb>
and I've got a cheerleader
13:35* vagrantc goes looking for dberkholz|bb in meatspace
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13:43
<ikonia>
moquist: are you around at all.
13:51
<vagrantc>
Ryan52: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/
13:51
Ryan52: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltspfs/
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Ryan52: http://bugs.debian.org/src:ltsp src:ldm and src:ltspfs
13:52
<moquist>
ikonia: am now
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<ikonia>
moquist: Hi, do you have a moment, I have a bit of an offtopic query.
13:54
<moquist>
Eh, possibly. It depends who you are and how off-topic it is. :)
13:54
ikonia: would PM be more appropriate? This channel doesn't usually tolerate OT discussion.
13:54
<ikonia>
moquist: I was just about to ask that,
13:54* moquist is kidding but thinks PM is more polite
13:55
<vagrantc>
dberkholz|bb: https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/
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dberkholz|bb: http://llama.freegeek.org/~vagrant/bzr/ltsp/vagrant-main/
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<vagrantc>
dberkholz|bb: http://llama.freegeek.org/~vagrant/bzr/ltsp/ltsp-trunk
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<vagrantc>
so, we've got gentoo, fedora and gentoo ltsp folks all in one room at the moment ... any specific features folks think we need to work on?
14:41
warren: ?
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ogra: ?
14:41
er, replace one of those gentoo's with a debian :)
14:42
<cliebow>
vagrantc:hack on !
14:42
<vagrantc>
Ryan52: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/
14:43* johnny thinks
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<johnny>
dberkholz, how are you going to publish your gentoo related changes?
14:43
i assume that is the main thing he needs to work on
14:43
<cliebow>
brb
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<dberkholz>
johnny: what do you mean?
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<johnny>
how will building ltsp on gentoo work exactly?
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<dberkholz>
it should work just like building ltsp on any other distro
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that's the whole point
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<johnny>
i mean internall
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internally*
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ltsp-build-client will do what exactly?
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<dberkholz>
i haven't decided yet
14:45
i think my initial approach will be to make binaries of what's installed on the server
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and install them to the client root
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<johnny>
aha.. sweet
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<dberkholz>
that's just a temporary hack, though, and doesn't work cross-arch
14:45
<johnny>
stage3?
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<dberkholz>
later on, might add code to start with a stage3
14:46
<johnny>
catalyst?
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<dberkholz>
also considering whether the quickstart installer might work
14:50
johnny: what would i use catalyst for?
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<johnny>
just wondered if there was any bits of it worth using, minus creating the actual iso
14:51
i had assumed by now that it would be a nice wrapper among the tools to build a distro
14:51
guess not..
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<dberkholz>
worth using to do what? i'm not sure i see where you're coming from
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<johnny>
i guess quickstart is doing that now
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<dberkholz>
quickstart is an installer..
14:52
the only role i could see for catalyst is building some sort of stage4 that's a reasonable ltsp default setup
14:54
i don't think that saves much work for me in development, because it would still need all the configuration and so forth but it might be nice for users
14:54
in fact it would probably make more work for me because i'd have to make regular releases
15:00
<johnny>
might be a lil much :)
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<vagrantc>
RyanRyan52: bzr push --create-prefix sftp://llama.freegeek.org/home/ryan52/public_html/bzr/ltsp/SOME_BRANCH_NAME
15:10
RyanRyan52: but first!
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RyanRyan52: bzr init-repo sftp://llama.freegeek.org/home/ryan52/public_html/bzr/ltsp/
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<cliebow>
vagrantc, how far along is gentoo?
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<vagrantc>
cliebow: i don'
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t know
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for that matter, how far along is fedora?
15:17
<cliebow>
thought you were hacking together....
15:19* eharrison thinks vagrantc was giving me a hard time ;-)
15:22
<cliebow>
Hi Eric: i thought it might be..
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you
15:23* vagrantc shrugs
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<dberkholz>
cliebow: ask again monday
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<cliebow>
8~)
15:33
<dberkholz>
vagrantc: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5MinimumRequirements
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<RyanRyan52>
vagrantc: http://llama.freegeek.org/~ryan52/bzr/ltsp/ldm-theme-dir
15:37
vagrantc: It works now...
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<vagrantc>
!integration
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "integration" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp
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<Q-FUNK>
warren: would RH be in a position to contribute anything to the AMD x.org driver this month?
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<achandrashekar_>
Hello. I am in the process of setting up a lab for students that has 80 nodes. I have a athlon x2 2.2 with 2GB of memory and 450GB of hdd space. Id have read about some clustering methods, and id like to cluster. Can someone aid me in the right direction (we are considering something like edubuntu )
22:38
<johnny>
achandrashekar_, you may have to wait some time for an answer
22:38
like during the weekdays
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and europe/usa daytime
22:38
<achandrashekar_>
i see. is the channel "quiet" during the weekends?
22:39
<johnny>
not quite quiet
22:41
<achandrashekar_>
:) so tepidly noisy i suppose.okay
22:42
<johnny>
freegeek runs many ltsp terminals, you should ask them how they handle it :)
22:43
<achandrashekar_>
they are on freenode as well?
22:43
<RyanRyan52>
I'm the only freegeek admin here right now...
22:43
let me check our servers specs...1 minute
22:44
achandrashekar_: Okay so the server that serves the nfs chroot and all of that is a dinky little xen instance (4x700MHz xen server with 5 instances running under it)
22:45
<achandrashekar_>
RyanRyan52: okay cool! so you have that "clustered" with the nodes ?
22:46
<RyanRyan52>
achandrashekar_: the anonymous people have a 3GHz p4 comp that they are logged into and the people with an account also have a 3GHz p4 machine
22:46
we don't do clustering and we are fine
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<johnny>
and the client count is?
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<RyanRyan52>
I didn't think of that...10 maybe...hmmm
22:47
Well, freegeek would not be the channel to ask in anyway cause we do no clustering
22:47
<achandrashekar_>
RyanRyan52: we have 90 pcs that need to be able to use, open office, gimp, and possibly blender. Other than that just simple browsing on the internet. Any suggestions for a setup?
22:48
<RyanRyan52>
achandrashekar_: Buy a really powerfull server from dell or something...clustering is a very difficult thing to do
22:48
and the only way I know how doesn't work :P
22:49
<achandrashekar_>
ryanryan52: I saw some old openmos stuff on the internet but for 2.4 kernel. I need something like that..because undoubtadely we will have idle nodes. The box I bought is an X2 with 2 GB of mem
22:50
athlon x2 with 2gb of mem at 2.2 GHZ
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<johnny>
i think it it's feasible to do clustering
22:50
based on what everybody says
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<RyanRyan52>
achandrashekar_: that was the method that I knew about
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<johnny>
2.4 is a non starter if you want to use any recent distro
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<RyanRyan52>
achandrashekar_: but openmosix is not supported after March
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<achandrashekar_>
yep..i hear its "dead" on many channels
22:51
so what are my options other than running a single server with just ltsp on it?
22:51
and or running two and splitting the load?
22:51
Id really like to take advantage of idle cpu on my nodes.
22:52* RyanRyan52 has no clue
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<achandrashekar_>
and can you johnny and ryan point me in the right direction (which you have already done..so far?)
22:52
maybe my "need" to cluster is not needed?
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<johnny>
run multiple servers and share the the user accounts?
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<achandrashekar_>
so in essence...if a user is to log on, they can log on to either server?? is that what we are talking about?
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<RyanRyan52>
achandrashekar_: or assign each user to a server
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that way they only have one home directory to manage
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<achandrashekar_>
okay..so I suppose I need to be more clear. I think since its a lab where wiley 16 year olds will need to use systems..even the concept of an anonymous login is very inviting. Id like to simplify things..so any recommendation you have would be great.
22:55
Is there a sample setup how to for this?
22:57
sorry..guys..for being so long winded in my description..im looking for an archtiecture..
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<achandrashekar_>
found one --- http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/multiple-server-setup.html
23:01
thanks..i see now.
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<IsleVegan>
the single terminal i have connecting to the server locks up after a period of inactivity, it doesn't come out of a black / blank display state.
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