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is there is any way to get the mo file for ldm,
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ogra, can I localise ldm, is there is any way to get mo files for it,
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check bugs perhaps daya ?
maybe or read the ML postings
johnny, hmm, perhaps you have told me it is not possible to get,
mo for ldm
i never said anything about mo
but you should check the bugs and list, it must have been discussed to localize it?
johnny, amm sorry,!
johnny, Ok i will check it,
johnny, which ML are u talking about,
one of the ltsp ones
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johnny,/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/Debian/bg.png , is not appearing in ltsp clinet,
johnny, I want to change the default background of ldm login screen
don't use my name please, unless you're really trying to get my attention, or ar in discussion with somebody else?
i'm about to go to sleep, tis 4am :)
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vagrantc: 5.0.39debian1~40.etch.0 works fine so far. X came up after installing some extra fonts-packages.
klausade: extra fonts packages? could you document that on the wiki?
i've had mixed luck with X configuration for that version ... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
so i'm guessing it's hardware specific
vagrantc: sure, but before i start working on the wiki, the x-log said "could not open default font 'fixed'" , so I added xfonts-utils xfonts-scalable xfonts-encodings xfonts-base xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi. don't know which did the trick.
my goals for ltsp in debian is to get a new ltspfs upload this week, and then work on backports for ltsp/ldm/ltspfs
klausade: was xorg installed? xorg's dependencies should have pulled in most (if not all) of those?
hmm... and indirectly, xfonts-utils
and xfonts-utils depends on xfonts-encodings
and xorg is a dependency of ltsp-client ...
vagrantc: yes, xorg was installed. the fault might be in how I run ltsp-build-client. I'll work more on it.
the only way would be if ltsp-client didn't get installed
ltsp-client-core doesn't depend on any of that
vagrantc: that sound very plausible.
klausade: do you mess with --early-packages?
vagrantc: no, i'm not using or messing with --early-packages, but probably with all the others :-)
klausade: well, --early-packages defaults to "--early-packages ltsp-client"
unless there's an /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf ... or extra plugins
vagrantc: I'll take it nice and slowly from the beginning again, now that I know that it does actually work.
klausade: i'm pretty sure there are breakages in local device support, but everything else should be fine
klausade: and those are easy to fix
ogra: the URL for: https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/ltsp/debian-main is broken
ogra: should be http://bzr.debian.org/bzr/pkg-ltsp/main/
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vagrantc: why does ltsp-build-client barf at this: --mirror "http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free" saying "E: No such script: etch"
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klausade: because that argument is passed to debootstrap
klausade: what i'd recommend doing is: --mirror http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian --extra-mirror "http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian contrib non-free"
klausade: what i'd recommend doing is: --mirror http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian --extra-mirror "http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian etch contrib non-free"
vagrantc: aah. i did notice that using --extra-mirror worked, i just found that strange..
klausade: yes, i'm not quite sure how to handle it properly the way you're suggesting...
klausade: i've thought about it before
klausade: could only grab the first part of the argument when passing to debootstrap, i guess
vagrantc: not specifying any --mirror makes it use http://http.us.debian.org/debian, which is realy slow sometime.
klausade: but then if you did something like: --mirror "http://foo/debian SOMEWEIRDDIST main contrib" you'd get unexpected behavior
klausade: yeah. hard-coded to US. i guess that's just maintainer's privledge ... wanted to avoid ftp.debian.org because it's discouraged to use that one, even though it's the only country-independent mirror i know of (though it's actually in the US, i think)
i guess we could check for WEIRDDIST != DIST
vagrantc: --mirror and --extra-mirror like you suggested works fine.
klausade: and you can have multiple entries in --extra-mirror
klausade: comma-separated ... --extra-mirror "http://foo/debian,http://bar/debian sid main contrib,http://baz/debian lenny main"
it adds the DIST and COMPONENTS if needed
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nautilus (and presumably gnome's desktop) show's a mount even if it's mounted with mount -n :(
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hi everybody, i was reading in the Edubnutu handbook about the HW requirements for LTSP thin clients. and there was this statement : "For using the default, secure mode of LTSP, one needs to have a 233 MHz or better CPU.".. I want to ask what the secure mode of LTSP is ..
encrypted connection between client and server
it uses ssh X11 forwarding
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I've done X forwarding over SSH on a 233MHz Pentium II
so have i
seemed difficult to use
too much lag
It was tolerable for me.
But, y'know, once I get using LTSP again I'll probably disable the SSH stuff.
the LDM_DIRECTX option still uses ssh for login, so at least the passwords don't go in the clear
Does remote audio & devices work with LDM_DIRECTX?
and other features (sound, localdev) still for
I'm not that bothered about sending passwords in the clear on a local network. The only people who could sniff them are the people with the root privs to install backdoored SSH daemons :)
it still uses ssh for login, which means your sound variables work decent, and also for the localdev stuff
there's no way to plug a laptop into your network?
Not easily, no.
Switch is up in the ceiling ducting.
and the ethernet cables on all machines are soldered in?
Terminals are strapped under a counter, with just the USB / PS2 / VGA connectors coming up to the keyboard & monitor
Not soldered, but you'd need a screwdriver at least.
sure sure :)
Anyway, most of what we do just uses passwordless guest accounts
i'd like to get LDM working such that guest accounts login insecurely, and known users login securely.
i still want timed logins tho
if i knew C a little better, i'd do it myself
might try to stumble through it
Given that it's possible to have a box with multiple video / soundcards, how easy would it be to have such a thing as an LTSP client? We might be able to save ourselves some hardware by having multiple users logging in on one client machine.
PerfDave: it shouldn't be much more difficult than with a disked system, if using ltsp5
vagrantc: *nods*. Something I'll look into. Though some software gets confused by multiple users on one machine, like knetworkmanager :/
well, knetworkmanager doesn't run on the thin-client
No, that was just an example ;)
PerfDave, at least next networkmanager will work at the system level :)
and not session
the only things running on the thin-client are basically LDM, ltspfsd, cdpinger, ssh ...
not sure if ltspfsd's authentication supports multiple X sessions ...
but i think so...
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well, localdev works with two LDM logins from the same thin-client
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they're using the same keyboard and mouse, but it shouldn't be much different if there's an X server for each keyboard/mouse combination
shared sound might still be an issue
vagrantc, I am searching if I can localise the ldm,
vagrantc, Acutally it would be better if I can get the login prompt in client in my own language interface,
daya: unfortunately, that it broken
daya: well, broken at the login screen
daya: you can still select a language
vagrantc, ye, I can do select the language, can't I put these settings in my own language, (such as change language, reboot etc)
vagrantc, again I have one issue, I can chage the logo , but not the default backgroud color in clinet logon prompt,
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daya: what is the default background color?
vagrantc, I mean in the login prompt of the client machine,
daya: unfortunately, the internationalization/localization support for LDM is broken. patches welcome.
vagrantc, the background image
daya: what is the default background color?
vagrantc, no,no can't I put my own image, in the background
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daya: is the background showing up as white, no matter what you do? if so, it may be a bug in the backport.
daya: patches welcome to fix that too.
vagrantc, :(, yes the background is white,
vagrantc, edubuntu has its own in the background
yes, and on debian sid, it is possible.
for the etch backport, for some reason i don't understand, there seems to be a bug that causes the background image to get hidden.
vagrantc, yes it is shown for some instant
daya: added a note to the wiki page.
vagrantc, ok ,isn't it possible i use ldm from that of ubuntu in etch , to solve this issue of backgrund image
daya: it's a long standing request: http://bugs.debian.org/432708
daya: i don't think it will help, but i can't stop you from trying
daya: the same exact LDM package works fine on lenny
daya: so it's a probablem from something other than LDM itself
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morning everyone :)
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hj everybody, i wonder if anyone has a good figure that depicts the topology of LTSP
aboo0ood: try http://ltsp.org ?
vagrantc, i got some figures
there's a picture on the right, if that's what you're looking for
i am trying to find a good one to put in a report
aboo0ood: you want numbers?
vagrantc, wut numbers ?
aboo0ood: i don't really understand what you're looking for "figures" ?
i am writing a report about LTSP and i need some respectable figure to show the topology of LTSP
what do you mean by "figure" ?
aboo0ood: the edubuntu ltsp docs has some nice figures
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